January 9, 2006
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WWJT Part 2
I asked what would Jesus think about America. I want us to look at what Jesus would think about some of our major social issues that have become political issues. For example, how Jesus would respond to issues such as the pro-life and pro-choice movement. Would Jesus be a fiscal conservative or a liberal? Would He be in favor of universal health care? Would he be in favor of affirmative action?
What would Jesus think of our major social issues?
Comments (144)
He would think we’re crazy.
Nicholas
I don’t think He’d have a problem with universal health care, but alot of other issues that we have… They’re just stupid.
Nicholas
3rd
i think if Jesus was here today, he would be viewed as a hippie and no one would take him seriously. Even if he performs miracles, people would still dismiss that as magic or fallicy.
he’d like americans; he’d have his hands full but i think he still loves us.
He would cry and pray to his father for us!
He would think we’re digging ourselves into a big hole…
I’ve wondered at times if Jesus thinks about our social issues…
I don’t think he does in the same way most of us think about them… We like to preoccupy ourselves with social issues that often don’t affect us at all… For instance, it’s kind of silly for a straight Christian to be overly concerned with gay marriage, because he or she will never need to get one… It’s kind of silly for a pro-life advocate to be overly concerned with the legality of abortion because she will never need one (presumedly).
I think Jesus avoids looking at these issues as “issues,” but instead looks at them in terms of the individual. Jesus would look at a person and say, “I know you’re scared and don’t think you can handle being a mother, but I want you to know that I am here with you and would like you to do the right thing.” Jesus would say, “I know you want to go to that strip club, and as long as you take me with you, that’s OK.”
I think Jesus didn’t like political battles, he was more focused on the spiritual battle that the individual must wage to live a good and happy life.
He would probably think that we THINK (and complain) to much and don’t LOVE enough. (yep, a hippie, as NYGarlic said). I personally would love to hear the parables he could come up with in this society.
I don’t think he would be liberal or conservative. I think he would see the problems in both parties. I think over all he would be very disappointed at the what has become important to us and they way we handle our issues.
Jesus would probably say today what he also said in the bible…
hummm that’s a good question.
I think Jesus would probably support policies that helped the poor. Having no health insurance brings misery to people who either a. get buried under huge medical bills, or b. don’t seek treatment for serious illness because they can’t afford it. Jesus would probably support universal health care, but I feel presumptuous claiming to know what Jesus would or would not support. I can’t imagine He’d be excited about large corporations making billions of dollars in profits, and exploiting their low-skilled workers.
By “excited” I meant “pleased about.”
I think Jesus is:
Pro-life – I think Jesus doesn’t like it when folks destroy the unique creations that he knits together in the womb.
Fiscal conservative – I think Jesus made it pretty clear he’s all about good stewardship of the resources that God has etrusted to us. The government is a notoriously poor steward of resources.
Against universal health care (paid for by the government using confiscatory tax rates) — Again, its a stewardship question.
In favor of affirmative action, but not in the conventional sense. I think he’s all about putting idle people to work in his kingdom. But he’s opposed to showing partiality or favoritism based on character-neutral and performance-neutral qualities like skin color.
A few things I strongly believe Jesus would think:
A)He would abhor the vile murder of millions of unborns
B0He would say that affirmative action has gone way over its limits which were properly insituted when the blacks did indeed have a legitimate gripe against the whites
C)He would say that government is not the welfare caretaker; that the church and the family insitutions should take over that role
D)He would most certainly be in favor of small government, and therefore be a fiscal conservative
E)He would be pro-Iraq war and, of course, pro-Israel
Sam
I think he would be thoroughly disappointed in society today.
I’d like to think that Jesus would be pro-life and pro-choice. He’d probably be a fiscal liberal. If everyone were like him universal health care would be unnesesary. I doubt he would he be in favor of affirmative action.
On the other hand… I don’t think Jesus would have been very involved in politics. Politics, while important, can often draw attention away from truly important issues. While we’re fighting the battle for the left or for the right, the true battle is for our hearts.
I don’t believe that any person can answer that. The Lord is not a human – to be bothered about our earthly political issues.
I do hope and think, though, that the Lord would be conservative in thinking. After all, conservative thinking IS based upon the Bible. The Bible advocates what conservatives are saying. And the Bible was written by God through men.
God bless,
Shohna
He would probably slap his face and drag his fingers down it in an expression of exasperation
I believe His views on issues are conservative in nature.
I agree with RadioWsam – 5 above me.
Christina
ok.. 6 above me
8 dang
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A few things I strongly believe Jesus would think:
A)He would abhor the vile murder of millions of unborns
B0He would say that affirmative action has gone way over its limits which were properly insituted when the blacks did indeed have a legitimate gripe against the whites
C)He would say that government is not the welfare caretaker; that the church and the family insitutions should take over that role
D)He would most certainly be in favor of small government, and therefore be a fiscal conservative
E)He would be pro-Iraq war and, of course, pro-Israel
Sam
He would try to help
He would have an “I told you so” expression as he explained that if we all followed the Bible and His example we wouldn’t be in this mess.
i think he would probably continue to stress the same points he felt were important 2000 years ago. i think the answer to every social, political or economic problem we spend our time and money on is found in his message to the people of his day.
i was passing by and noticed the qx. hope a post from a stranger is OK…
i believe that Jesus would see things very differently than we do. he would look at abortion victims with love and compassion, he would speak harshly to religious hypocrits, he would preach and teach with authority, and we would hang him on a Cross for being holy rather than controlling…
He would think we are in a deep hole that we won’t be able to get ourselves out of.
Amanda
i think Jesus would be a communist.
Why is it that Jesus always thinks the same thing about America as the person commenting?
I think he would not get overly involved in political issues. Jesus would say the same thing to us as he did to the people of His own day…we are living by the standards and values of America, not Jehovah…
Marriage
Family (blood relatives) first
Patriotism
everyone screaming “hooray for our side”
pretend we are sinless while those who don’t support our political views are probably living in rebellion to God
Sound familiar???
he would say. Obey God first, love your church first, and understand that Americans aren’t more important than Iraqis
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. -Hebrews 13:8
“A thousand years ago, you and I were ntohing, and yet, the church was preserved at that time without us. He who is called “who was” and “yesterday” had to accomplish this. Even during our lifetime we are not the church’s guardians… If it were up to us, the church would perish before our very eyes…” -Martin Luther
What do these two quotes mean? They mean that the lessons are still the same, and humans are still the same no matter what time period. We still need to learn the same lessons, hear the same parables, be troubled by the same questions.
And yet we are anything but constant. We have no foundation but our beliefs, and Jesus wishes to redefine our believes so that we may have a firm foundation.
Jesus would think the same of us as he did of those two thousand years ago.
Except for a few assumptions we can draw based on his reported actions and principles, I don’t think we can say much of anything on his behalf which wouldn’t reflect our own biases.
Jesus would think that we would not have any “social issues” if we had followed God’s Word in the first place.
Besides that, it would depend greatly upon whose interpretation of Jesus we were talking about; his behavior in some of the books omitted from many Bibles is far from ideal, and the Jesus of Muslim scripture is very, very different from that of the Christian texts.
He would think that we are selfish, evil and inconsiderate ceatures. And that we are nothing like he made us to be. This world is evil and if we were still living as it used to be, you know, “In God we Trust”…things would be ALOT different.
He would be liberal in his viewpoints. He would see so much tragedy. He would be afraid for us. He is afraid for us.
From what I understand he was considered a hippie in his day. I think he would be a liberal. Like what NYGarlic said. He would want us to help each other out. Would be disgusted by murder, child abuse, war, etc.
well, Jesus was fundamentally a liberal. I mean, if you read about His life and His works, He favored equality and social change. He embraced those thought to be abhorred by the system. But I do not necessarily think that He would have fundamentally liberal veiwpoints and ideas– at least not to the extent that we have brought those ideas in the 20th and 21st centuries.
That’s what He does every day!
((( GRANDMA HUGS )))
Lori
Honestly; I don’t know what Jesus would think, I’m not Him, I don’t know His thoughts…
How is that possible to answer?
ciao,
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I think he would run away shaking his head.
Why would Jesus want you to take him to a strip club? A bar, maybe.
“Y’all need to quit worryin’ about what’s goin’ on in everybody else’s head, an’ worry about what’s goin’ on in your own heart!”
that’s what he’d say
“Why is it that Jesus always thinks the same thing about America as the person commenting?”
Indeed. Try imagining what Saint Francis would have to say about any of these things, and you realize exactly how far off-centre we ourselves are bound to go when we attempt to speak for Jesus. He was such an extraordinarily unique individual that it’s likely we would all be stunned into disbelief by whatever He had to say about the social issues of the day. I doubt He’d tell you what anyone else is saying. What you have to do is to engage in the ardent pursuit of that wondrous and mystical personality that entered existence like the first new song from beyond the world.
It be all ’bout the love.
Luckily for us we don’t have to wonder, because my friend Booth took the liberty of interviewing Him when His movie came out two years ago. Some excerpts:
Booth: Mr. Christ, what do you think of cruelty to animals?
Jesus: I am the Good Shepherd.
Booth: What did you think when you saw Passion of the Christ?
Jesus: I wept.
Much of Jesus ministry was a one on one ministry. He would walk the streets of the inner cities and just touch people. He would preach on the street corners the true gospel. He would occasionally show up on Washington and berate the leadership (republican and democrat) who have forgotten about the little guy. He would point out the hypocrisy that exists in our country. The total abandonment of His principles of government. Then we would find some reason to deport Him or maybe we would kill Him.
I’m not touching this issue with a fourty foot pole.
I think Jesus still owes me five bucks for pizza. Bastard.
Any of you, please leave some advice… Thanks…
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*~Christi~*
I think dfault312′s answer is excellent, and I agree.
[how Jesus would respond to issues such as the pro-life and pro-choice movement. Would Jesus be a fiscal conservative or a liberal? Would He be in favor of universal health care? Would he be in favor of affirmative action?]
pro-life vs pro-choice: What goes into the heart is what comes out of the heart as words and actions. God looks at the heart. Judge not and you will not be judged. Leave judgment up to God. Be merciful and you will be shown mercy when you stand before your Maker.
fiscal conservative/liberal: Don’t withhold good from those around you when you have it in your power to do good to them. You will always have the poor with you. Be merciful as your Father in Heaven is merciful. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Give and it will be given to you. Remember the story of the rich man and Lazarus. Many who believe they are the chosen, who believe they are first and place themselves first will indeed be last. Many who think they deserve the seat next to the King at the table will find themselves outside the door, begging to come in, and will not be allowed in.
universal health care/affirmative action: God is no respecter of persons.
we are too self involved…
I think He’s very sad at the way most people live, therefore what our major social issues. Anything that aligns with the Bible He’d be for, but things that don’t align, I know He’d teach against them.
He would be disappointed at our excessiveness and our ability to ignore those that have less than us b/c we don’t have to see them everyday.
Erika
I think Jesus would be more concerned about His church in the United States, rather than the country. I don’t think He would be pleased with either one.
Jesus would be rolling his eyes, and probably laughing at us.
And yes, I also think Max loves me. Which is good, cause I love him too.
I’d like to think that Jesus would be pro-life and pro-choice. He’d probably be a fiscal liberal. If everyone were like him universal health care would be unnesesary. I doubt he would he be in favor of affirmative action.
On the other hand… I don’t think Jesus would have been very involved in politics. — Posted 1/9/2006 at 10:04 AM by dfault312
I agree that Jesus the Christ probably would have been both pro-life and pro-choice, and a fiscal liberal. But I doubt that he would have been much involved in politics.
E)He would be pro-Iraq war and, of course, pro-Israel
I’m sorry, but that has to be about the dumbest thing I have ever heard. So you’re saying that Jesus advocates war and thinks that the only solution to this is the killing of tens of thousands (many of whom were innocent civilians). This is why I simply can’t take Christians seriously with people who say crap like this.
I dont think Jesus is pleased with the state of our social affairs in this country. I think He would tell us that as a nation we’ve sold ourselves out. We as a nation have strayed from what supposedly was our first true love (JESUS). I know how many people like to point out that our forefathers were such Godfearing men and that we need to get back to that. However, I’m not convinced that even the forefathers of our country were that godly to begin with. Freemasonry has been the foundation of this nation since its birth. Do a little research to find out how many of those great leaders were part of the masonic cult that has been and continues to be in control of what happens through out the world. Lies and myths shrouded in just enough truth to look like the real thing is DANGEROUS and Jesus Christ said that this type of deception was an abomination to HIM.
So back to the question at hand, Jesus would think that our social issues of today are like the social issues that have plagued humanity since the beginning of time in the garden of eden, but He would also say that those issues arent greater than the sacrafice HE made on calvary’s cross. I also think He would ask and wonder where are the Christians that claim HIS name that are willing to stand up and speak out against these things no matter what the cost!
Quoted 1/9/2006 at 11:48 AM by StoopidSavant:
“This is why I simply can’t take Christians seriously with people who say crap like this.”
How is it that disagreeing with one christian’s answer invalidates the word of another christian? Not all christians have the same oppinions.
Hard to say. I do think that He’d be a Civil Libertarian for the most part. I do think he’d be for Universal Health Care and Human Rights would be high on His agenda.
I don’t know if He’d be pro-Iraq war or not, but I imagine He’d change some policies of the war, like when in pursuit of an insurgent or terrorist, and the suspect runs into an innocent civilian’s house, not to bomb the house via fighter aircraft. Stupid Stupid policy.
I’m saddened that people are throwing around insults at each other because we disagree. My personal idea is that Jesus would be about smaller government. His own behaviors would be liberal and compassionate, but he would be maybe traditionally conservative – preaching “good” but not forcing or legislating anything. Of course, these are my own projections based on what I would want him to say. He came to teach, to encourage people to change. Only once is it recorded that He got really angry. Only once did he use that kind of force. I believe that Jesus is for guiding and letting us make up our own minds – that’s why He gave us choice. Jesus teaches, and His Father will one day judge.
I’m kind of new to your format. Dan, what is your position on this?
Jesus was not really involved with politics. He was more focused on changing the heart, which changed the individuals, who reached other individuals, thus changing the society. However, He hates murder and loves everybody, so murdring babies is obviously wrong from His perspective. Financially, he would probably be fiscally conservative, since he ecnouraged people to be good stewards of their money. He also encouraged people to use what they have to make more and for people to work to support themselves. It is hard to say what his view on universal health care would be, since He was the health care system for the people He met and He is the one who heals people anyhow. I guess He would encourage more prayer for better health. He also knows that people are made in the image of God, and thus equal and to be loved equally, so apply that to affirmative action as you see fit.
I think he would do exactly what he did the fist time he came. He would say and do things that are unexpected.
I think Jesus somehow knows an answer to all of our battles, but can’t tell us; we have to find it ourselves… I think he’s sad over the way things are, but also watches over us. I think.
What is interesting is if Jesus were physically here and an American Citizen, His first task would be the same as 2000 years ago, taking on modern Pharisees. I think there would be many surprised Christians, Robertson, Falwell, and Southern Baptist Convention and any pastor who tells their Congregation who to vote for. Once those battles are fought, then maybe he’d tackle political issues. Basically, He’d probably take on the task of de-politicizing Christianity.
I really think that His words would not change from when he was “living” and preaching to the multitudes and individuals that listened…even if He expressed His opinions widely and openly if He was on the Earth right now, I think only those that wanted to would listen to him…
Interesting question…
someone above (on the first page) said something about Jesus coming up with parables about us now… those I would like to hear!
Hey retards, if Jesus were here today, it’d be Judgement Day.
Yet again, he’d say, “Damn. Dad fucked up somewhere”.
I was thinking along the same lines of Whitney’s comment. (justwandering). I think he would be disgusted about how much controversy there is over certain subjects that the gospel specifically condemns. He would stick to what he said way back when he was on the Earth, because God never changes.
It wasn’t “Dad” who ”fucked” up, it was Adam and Eve who committed the first sin that set the world into motion as it is today. Without that, there would be no sin, and we would most likely not be here talking about this today. Just think how different the world would be without greed and lust, there would most likely be no such thing as the internet, and more than half of us would not be alive today.
RYC that mall is mans greatest achievement thus far.
He wouldn’t be pleased.
H
I think Jesus is really sad when He looks at the good ol U.S. of A. these days. I don’t think He would neccesarily lable himself as either cons. or lib. but instead look at each issue seperately. He would definately be prolife. But if you look at the basis of the Bible, we wouldn’t have to have this so called form of “birth control” if we followed what it said. And if you got pregnant inside of marriage and didn’t want the child, I am sure He could find plenty of people to bless with that child. Over all I think He would walk the streets of our country and cry big tears of sadness over what we have done with our country, with the people of our country, and the laws of the land.
I think only JESUS could answer those questions. I’m not ABOUT to put words in HIS mouth! : )
That we have gotten away from what His word says.
I can see Him when asked questions on the hot social topics of the day not pointing fingers of condemnation, but writing names in the sand and saying things that would convict hearts of members of all political factions of their sinful behavior, greed, and selfishness, and then He would speak words of hope, love, and salvation into the lives of all that would hear Him. And hearing Him we would be healed.
God, you know, He does stuff like that.
L,r
I am a Christian, BTW.
L,r
I think Jesus would be a radical and a liberal … he’d be appalled at the EXTREME divide between the small percentage of rich in this country and the large percentage of those struggling to make it and would probably have a lot of choice things to say about the way people value things and money and personal success over a larger, communal sense of helping fellow human beings out. I doubt he’d go around condemning women who had abortions or gays and lesbians or the other so-called “impure” folks in society (at least according to the religious right) … after all, who did Jesus hang with in the Bible? Not the pious, self-righteous, “we know the Holy Scriptures better than you” folks … not the Pharisees … not the rich, tax-collectors who only sought to get more money. He hung out with the outcasts … the people who were ostracized from their community … the people who the Pharisees and other religious leaders condemned … the “unclean.” He drank with them, he stayed at their houses, he kept their company, and he LOVED them. Most of Jesus’ harshest words were directed at the pious and self-righteous and the self-absorbed, not the people that those “leaders” thought God would be “displeased” with.
He’d have a big problem with the pro-war, pro-death penalty, pro-tax cut for the wealthy sort of leaders … he’d have a problem with leaders people whose actions were motivated by greed, fear, and misunderstanding rather than love and compassion and forgiveness.
And for all those reasons, I fear that Jesus would be totally laughed out of town if he were making the rounds in America today … the likes of Pat Robertson, Bill O’Reilly, probably even George Bush and company wouldn’t have much time for messages of love, compassion, and helping others first and foremost … at least not based on current policies and attitudes.
I think for a short answer, Amocatte pretty well nailed it. Until we as individuals get our own heads straight, we aren’t really able to make the hard decisions. Another commentor asked something like ‘where is the love’. That is what we have to do before we can make those cutting edge decisions on burning issues. We have to learn to love each other even when we are most unlovable.
L,r
i don’t believe that jesus is the son of god, because i don’t believe in god.
i think he was some nutter who heard voices and started some rumours about miracles. or maybe that he didn’t exist at all.
If I remember my Sunday School classes from when I was a kid correctly, Jesus’s attitude towards the politics of his day were, render unto Ceaser what is Ceasar’s, render unto God what is God’s. I think that in issues such as abortion, his stance would be pretty obvious: It’s wrong, but God loves everybody. Sin is sin, no matter if you steal a paper clip from work or kill a baby or have sex outside of marriage. I think that when it comes to murkier issues, His focus would be more reach everyone you can with the good news, and less focus on which Medicare plan someone should choose. When Jesus came 2000 years ago, people were looking for a political crusader to overthrow the government, and that’s not what they got. I don’t think that politics are his main focus, but he does say that there is no government except for what God has established. Hmm… makes you think.
What would Jesus think about America? What does Jesus THINK! What is Jesus all about? Contrary to popular opinion Jesus isn’t full of love for every person, He is full of love for His father and for His father’s glory. He came not for affirmative action, national health care, or for any Social reform.
His purpose Is to up hold His father’s glory and reconcile His people back to God by atoning for them. He spoke out against the corruption of his time, Based upon the violation of His father’s glory and honor by Man’s rebellion and Sin.
The parables he told were to reveal how life should be lived in the presence of God and to show us that in our fallen state we have No way of living up to God’s standard. As a result all that violate God’s law (according to the Bible) deserve eternal death and separation from God’s presence.
The Good News that Christ brings is: that He came and took on the penalty of OUR rebellion, So that His father might be glorified and we could be reconciled to him. By this act of grace, (a gift which we don’t deserve nor can we earn) the barrier of sin has been remove so that we are Free to obey and enjoy God Forever.
To trivialize Jesus and his purpose is to demeening and dis respectful. Please Don’t take me wrong. I just don’t want Jesus to be set up so that people of uninformed opinions can demeen his character or purpose.
Interesting how posters here often put their own political views in their comments, and start them with “Jesus would think… ” Have to agree with SouthForkCheerMom, no point putting words in anyone else’s mouth.
I think everyone is listing what they think.. not what Jesus would think. Everyone would like to believe that they’re on “God’s side”.
In definite agreement with the last two comments by Chanty and Faintstar: everyone here is listing their own opinions on issues and then using that as the basis for what Jesus would think. Ideally, a person living a Christ-centered life would ask what Jesus thought first and then use that to determine what to believe on major issues. This is why there is no social reform and no growth in the Church or in the country today, because many are self-centered in their thinking rather than God-centered. It also seems that some here would like Jesus to condemn everyone and that others wish He would overlook the faults of all, but I don’t think He’d have gone to either extreme. In reality what He would have done is so different from what we think He would do that the world is stagnant, waiting for the sort of people who have uncovered the magical mystery of Christ and possess the fire that can change the world once more.
“‘Traditions are born,’ says Asher Lev, ‘by the power of an initial thrust that hurls acts and ideas across the centuries.’ In the case of Christianity, these acts and ideas have often been misidentified. This is because the radical society of friends, of free and equal men and women, that came forth from the side of the crucified was quickly overwhelmed by ancient patriarchy and has been overwhelmed in every era since by the social and political forms of the age. As we look back over the ages of monarchical popes and princely bishops, engaged in war games and power struggles with one another, these players of old shrink in size and begin to resemble figures on a chessboard, retaining little of lasting relevance for us. But the ‘ideas and acts’ have been hurled across the centuries, and whenever an individual or gathering has had the courage to confront the Gospel anew, the society of its time has experienced transformation.” - Thomas Cahill, Desire of the Everlasting Hills
God save the people, oh God save the people. I’m not really sure what he would do. Maybe more of the same, preach. He did say that we would always have the poor. He knew it all could not be solved quickly, well in at least the 3 years he had. Hmm, he never really tackled Rome, he just said to give unto Ceasar, what is due Ceasar, so I guess America is the worlds present day Rome. Give unto Bush, what is due Bush?
So he would preach until Homleand Secutiry put an end to his radical ways. Yes, the only reason conservatives embrace Jesus, is becase he is not walking the earth today. Jesus was a radical, a threat to the establishment. Neither Rome nor America likes that very much.
He is pro-life
He is pro-Bible -if it agrees with the Bible, it is good with him…
…the bible clearly states that homosexuality is not an intended nature of man-kind…you don’t have to agree with me, but God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Evan. I don’t know all of the political terms and all, but like I said, It’s the Holy Word. To find out how Jesus would feel, just pick your Bibles off the (possibly and most likely) dusty shelf and see what he has to say about these things. Our country has tried to take God out of everything, Maybe it is time for his people to say enough is enough…we are not to comprimise…should we love everybody? Yes…that means the drunk driver who killed your sister on the road and the greedy man who broke into your house, and the kid at school or co-worker that is absolutely cruel to you or who you find annoying…first and foremost we are to love one-another…as Christ loves us.
God Bless
he would say none of it matters in reality
i think he would think the same things he thought about all of te politics going on when he did walk the earth. just because it was 2 centuries ago doesn’t mean they didn’t have huge political battles going on. but he pretty much ignored them then and showed and changed people to salvation.
Not to mention…as a teen……..I really don’t care about politics.
I think that Jesus would be disappointed that we put all our time and energy into fussing about tiny details (i.e. The whole Pledge of Allegiance thing). He would want us to love more and put more time into loving one another, regardless of race, sexual orientation, religion, or anything else that sets us apart as individuals. I don’t think that Jesus would be concerned with such things as politics either. I don’t believe that he would be conservative OR liberal. I do believe he would be anti-war though.
You know, I’m just not sure what Jesus would think on any of those topics. I know how I feel, but I’m not basing my feelings (solely, anyway) on anything from the Bible. I could be one of those people who thinks they understand everything in life and say that Jesus would feel exactly like I do, but I’m not sure. The Bible is, whether some people think so or not, open to at least some interpretation. This is what is meant by “Satan can quote scripture for his own purposes”- because Satan can take the text and twist it around to sound like it means what he needs it to mean. The Bible is like poetry- you can have your interpretation of it, but you should be able to back it up.
Unfortunately, the Bible contradicts itself, especially from the New Testament to the Old Testament. Yahweh wasn’t exactly above aproving mass abortion himself:
“And a tumult will rise among your people, and all of your fortresses will be ruined, just as Shalman ruined Beth-Arbel in a day’s battle. Mothers will be dashed to pieces with their sons. Hosea 10:14
Samaria will be desolated, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword, their infants will be dashed to pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. Hosea 13:16
Their infants will be dashed to pieces right before their eyes. Their houses will be ruined and their wives raped. Isaiah 13:16″
Anyway, I’m saying that I don’t know what Jesus would think, because you can interpret the Bible pretty much however you wish, or just place certain contradicting values at a higher level of importance. So as much as I wish I knew, and as much as I hope he would agree with me if he were real, I can’t say for sure that I know what Jesus would think.
My belief is that Jesus stands for love and understanding before all else, and forgiveness. That said, I don’t think he would view many of our actions as the right ones. I think that if he were alive and preaching today, most people would probably call his views unrealistic and naive, too idealistic to be put into practice, and would say that his ideas expect too much of humanity.
He isn’t on this earth now, but his teachings are still remembered. That said, it especially interests me that so many Christians see his message in the Bible, and yet respond to issues like war and poverty with callousness and vengeful hearts, and will even justify it as God’s work.
However, I won’t pretend to know what Jesus would really think of America. This is just my opinion.
You just had to open that can of worms….
I don’t think any of us can claim to know what Jesus would think about this stuff. Anyone who does is being arrogant.
Why would Jesus worry about our legal views… he’s there for moral and ethnic issues not these stupid and frivolous things about taxes… he’s JESUS not a Liberal or Conservative, but a Christian
God controls all events, so why ask?
Jesus would choose the side that is right….. Duh, he’s all knowing.
Jesus wouldn’t be happy with plenty of Americans. Too many claim His name but work against anything that comes from Him. Pharasees did tht and we saw how they got along. But He would love everyone. That’s what Jesus does. Love of course doesn’t simply mean agree with and make feel good about themselves for what they do. He would think that anything against His own people (Jews or non), whether in taking life or individuals failing to take responsibility for themselves and helping others in need would be abhorent.
I think Jesus would think we had the right idea when we started to try to become America, but then we became so divided: liberals vs. conservatives. I think Jesus would want us to be AMERICANS who focused their lives on 1) helping each other out, and 2) when we’re needed; helping other nations out by sending food, clothes, money, providing shelter.
I think Jesus would not want a reason for abortion in the first place, women shouldn’t be getting raped, people should be having sex when they are ready for the responsibility of a new life in this world. He would also want the parents to bring the child up full of love and hope, therefore each new life could help the world become (cliche) a better place.
I think Jesus might think that the Government should be more of a person, with feelings, that they could take care of those in need, although it is also the churches and private citizen’s duty. Jesus would of course not be a lable “liberal” or “conservative” he would be Jesus, meant for everyone in every state that they come to Him.
In all, Jesus would want us to for once put petty things aside and love each other and really try to help each other out. He would never look down on a homeless person on the street and say “why don’t you get a job, you lazy bum,” I hope Jesus would take that person in, and talk to them and make them feel like a worthy person again.
I hope I am right, and I am not putting words in Jesus’ mouth. I am terribly afraid that I am wrong, and believing things and seeing things the way Jesus would.
He would be very, very disappointed.
In the words of dear old Chesterton, Christ began the only revolution that has ever really lasted – because it was a revolution in the human heart.
He would cry…
I think He is (not would be or was) grieved by most of what He sees.
Obviously, Jesus was a White Republican NAFTA-Capitalist.
I don’t think he would view America any differently than he did any other place he visited on earth. We are all humans and we all screw up. He looks at people as individuals not as nationalities. He would love us all and help us all become better individuals so that we could then be a better nation.
He would think it’s ridiculous to fight over such things. I think he would be happier if we could all accept each other as we are, and respect our beliefs and opinions.
He would wonder how these things are possible. Shortly after Jesus would most likely wonder what had happened in the years previous.
Jesus would be very disappointed in the way we, humans are handling ourselves. One day, another Noah is going to build another ark. And the rest will be history.
A few things I strongly believe Jesus would think:
A)He would abhor the vile murder of millions of unborns
B0He would say that affirmative action has gone way over its limits which were properly insituted when the blacks did indeed have a legitimate gripe against the whites
C)He would say that government is not the welfare caretaker; that the church and the family insitutions should take over that role
D)He would most certainly be in favor of small government, and therefore be a fiscal conservative
E)He would be pro-Iraq war and, of course, pro-Israel
Sam
I dunno what Jesus would think about that comment, but I think You are an IDIOT.
Jesus would probably say, “Look at all these hungry people. Why have you not fed them? Look at all these naked people. Why haven’t you clothed them? Look at all these sick and elderly people. Why haven’t you proved health care for them and cared for them? Look at all these people in prison. Why haven’t you visited them? Look at all these liars. Why have you believed them. Look at all your brothers and sisters. Why have you despised them? Look at all these dead people. Why did you kill them?”
Bravo.
Compare what’s going on to the teachings of the Bible and you’ll know what Jesus thinks.
i’d like to think that jesus doesn’t fit into any political party because they have their prejudices and end up doing the opposite of what they claim to stand for. if jesus/ god thinks in such a way that totally surpasses human thinking, this question is moot. i believe that his plan for us is beyond anything we can comprehend. i think we’re trying to glorify him, but we’re getting it all wrong.
He would probably be pissed because of all the crap that people do in his name. Like the KKK, or taking away gay rights. I think he would be really sad because of all the Christians who don’t act like Christians: George Bush, Ann Coulter, Bill O’Rilley, Bill Clinton, Dan Quale, and the like.
And Hilliary Clinton, what is all this “Now I’m a Christian” Stuff anyway, and John Kerry.
Jesus would be a moderate
Jesus would be a moderate
oooh, and if jesus were trying to fit into a political party, wouldn’t we all be trying to be like god?
Oy vey, you write a little note and get 153 hits…
Uhmmm – Father forgive them… they’re ignorant…
I think he would cry…
“he’s JESUS not a Liberal or Conservative, but a Christian” -JustSomeKid42
No… Jesus was Jewish and his Mama pronounced his name something like Yeshua, which means “God Saves.”
Yeshua isn’t/wasn’t a Christian… that’s a Greek term for people who follow Jesus or have “Christ in” them…
You want the leader to following Himself around and around??? Well, I suppose… but
He was the Messiah, Christ… the Annointed One… Imanuel – God dwells with us….
and all that… plus my teacher, my redeemer and my best friend… ^..^
And He can label me anytime He likes…. (I rather like the sound of Him calling my name… save I can’t figure out what my name is…in English.)
^..^
Jesus doesn’t need a party. He didn’t vote by the way and the way he paid taxes was to find a coin in a fish…
“oooh, and if jesus were trying to fit into a political party, wouldn’t we all be trying to be like god?”
I’m confused… what do you mean? If we try to fit into a political party, we’re trying to be God?
I’m sorry, I’m ambidextrous….
CAN WE ALL GO BACK TO THE SOURCE NOW???
In the beginning was God….
Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheynu Adonai Echad…
Hear O Israel… the Lord Your God is One (Whole, Holy being…) and that’s a good thing.
In the beginning was the Word (logic) and the Word (logic) was with God and the Word (logic) was God… The same was in the beginning with God… Nothing was made without him In Him is Light and the Light shines in the darkness and the darkness can’t put it out….
^..^
I think he would be completely horrified.
Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever (Heb. 13:8). Therefore, He would be consistant with how he was when he walked the earth. He would focus on what is very important the souls of people, unlike many in the church today
His focus was always love-centered. He loves his father and he loves people…even people that were living unholy lives.
Regarding social issues, when the religious leaders asked him about taxes, he said, “Give to Ceasar’s what is Ceasar’s and to God what is God’s.”
CS Lewis-in his book the Screwtape Letters had an isightful point when he said that in order to make a Christian ineffective let him focus on Jesus+ something else. Our focus as believers is to be on loving God and loving people.
Jesus already said ‘ Love God first , and your neighbor next —with all your heart’, most people should be able to examine our culture and individual lifestyles …etc. in light of those prorities ,
I think most of us have missed the mark.
I don’t think Jesus would even view people in terms of geographical regions (because “Americans” refers to anyone on the ENTIRE continent: from the top of Canada to the tip of Chile). I think he would be equally concerned with the state of the WORLD as a whole and the lack of humanity in it.
he was a liberal jew people… i can’t imagine him coming back as anything else…
The first answer is that God would love us, not because we are Americans, or even in spite of them, rather God would love us because we are his children. What I think you are trying to ask is, would God be happy with what is being done with his land? That answer is no.
I think that Jesus would stand up for life on every account. I do not think that he would support our feeling that we have the “right” to decide who lives and who dies. I think that he would want us to understand it was He who creates life and He who decides when it should end.
Based off of his life story and all that has been discussed about him, I do not think that he would support war at any level. Many times people tried to get him to comment on making war with the Romans to get them out of Isreal, but he never went for that, realizing that our wars on earth are not the wars in Heaven.
But, let’s be truly honest here: there is no way we could tell what Jesus would be today. Heck even during his time, no one knew what he was other than anti-Satan. For us to try and place Jesus into a political category or on a side of a debate, we are trying to limit God and make him something that we can understand.
The only thing that we can really understand about God, is that he is truly about love. Anything other than that, is God’s and God’s alone to decide.
Middle finger, of course
i think it’s clear that each of us is going to believe that Christ would hold the same veiws as we ourselves do. For instance, a fiscal conservative would believe that Jesus is also a fiscal conservative. Because if they consider Jesus to be the savior of the world, or if they believe him to be just a great teacher/prophet, they would desire that their veiws match his. That way they can claim “Jesus is on my side.” Where would he really stand? Read the Bible with your eyes open to what he had to say. Don’t just search for scripture to verify what you already believe… really search.
Individually he would love us; But as a country, he would think we’re corrupt.
First of all
its common sense
Jesus would be super ultra conservative,
what the hell do you think the white house is full of? Germans? Persians? Eskimos?
NO! Its full of old Christian white people!
SAY IT WITH ME
OLD
CHRISTIAN
WHITE PEOPLE
He would cry out in pain of a society that has need to debate abortions. He would shake his head in pity at a society that casts aside its weakest and most vulnerable. He would shed tears of sadness for a society which continues to suffer in the misery created by its own sin and immorality.
I don’t know for sure what Jesus would think of our social issues today, but I’m positive he would not support abortion. Our Lord would never support the murder of innocent babies just because their parents made an “oops!”
Um, assuming he ever existed in the first place?
Jesus loves you
hmmm…he’d be disapointed
man, things would be different
“But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” –Matthew 5:44
“What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’” –Matthew 15:11
“Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” –Matthew 19:24
“Show me the coin used for paying the tax. They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription? Caesar’s, they replied. Then he said to them, Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” –Matthew 22:19-21
“But woe to you who are rich, for you have already recieved you comfort.” –Luke 6:24
“Then Jesus asked them, ‘Which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?’ But they remained silent.” –Mark 2:4
Basically, nothing is different.
i don’t like how everyone is speaking for Jesus. i certainly wouldn’t like it if people spoke in my place.
I think he would be all about social justice. He always talks about helping the poor, plus much of what he says comes from the prophets and wisdom literature. so…
1) Pro-life, He’s really into protecting the innocent, standing up for those who can’t stand up for themselves (Proverbs 31:8-9, an instruction for a king ‘Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all who are destitute. Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.’)
2) I don’t know about being a fiscal conservative. In Ecclesiastes is says ‘cast your bread, for you will find it after many days.’ That doesn’t sound much like typical american evangelical ‘stuardship’ to me. See above, helping the helpless. There may be a point that if you are going to give away lots of your money, maybe through the government isn’t a good way to do it, and so…
3) Perhaps not government sponsored healthcare, did you know around 50% of the US govt budget goes to social security, medicare, and medicaid? That’s a lot of money, and it doesn’t seem like they do much with it. However, generally people (myself included) who talk about how inefficient the government is in medical care don’t often go out and pay for a homeless person to go to the dentist, or for a poor child to have a needed operation, so at least the government does something, and it’s better than the nothing that lots of ‘intelligent’ critics do.
So the general ‘loving more’ is probably right, but at the same time, it isn’t just some hippie free love, it is a love with a purpose. ‘Lets all be happy and not offend anyone’ is not Jesus’ style, he was quite offensive, as I recall, he was crucified because he was so offensive. But that offence was loving.