January 26, 2006
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Xanga Retirement Part 3
While I have been in retirement, it has given me some time to think about things I normally wouldn’t think about. It has caused me to think about the nature of retirement and the location of retirement. During retirement, it appears to me the best location to keep as a home is Florida. I have always wanted to live in Florida. I have visited there a handful of times and I have always enjoyed my stay.
While thinking about Florida, I couldn’t help but to think about privacy. According to foxnews.com, a little community has set up cameras to catch drug dealers. The people in the community were tired of the crime in their area. So they set up a camera on private property that overlooked public property. The people in the community monitor the camera for illegal activity and report it to the police. The police are saying that they will get a direct feed from the camera to help fight crime. Some are calling this a violation of privacy.
If a camera was set up in your community, would you feel that your privacy was being violated?
Comments (191)
yes i would think that my privacy was being violated. i wouldn’t want my every move being recorded. it’s like the whole big brother thing!!
Yes, yes I would.
No, definitely not. It might have even prevented the people who did all that damage to my car from getting away with it.
Wow…you retire as well as the Rolling Stones give final tours!
And if you’re not doing anything illegal, then I don’t think you have anything to worry about when it comes to those cameras anyway. There are cameras in stores, I think it all amounts to basically the same thing.
stop with this retirement stuff… it makes you look retarded… just say you missed xanga and came back
Anyway, yes but I would feel safer
I would be totally fine with it because I don’t break the law… and I want those who do caught.
I would be ok with it
I’d have no problem with it.
There are cameras running everywhere you go now, so I don’t see a camera set up on a street as being much different from a security camera in a store.
That doesn’t mean I like them, however. I appreciate that they can be useful in catching criminals, but I get a little creeped out knowing that there are cameras trained on me in practically every public building I enter.
RYC: Thanks.
It depends if I was doing something I didn’t want them to see or not
I’m sure I would.
Glad your back!
Amanda
depends on the nature of the camera. is there one that looks down the street, or does it look into people’s homes etc?
if it’s just on the street, i don’t see that as a big deal
I’m sure I woud be ok with it, that is.
I don’t do anything against the law so I have nothing to be worried about.
It would only depends on where it is set up and the situation at the time. I wouldn’t mind it so much because if that will keep me safe in my neighborhood then so be it. I have been through crime community situation before, better to be safe then sorry.
I would think of it as a necessary violation. It’s really not a big deal…people just want something to complain about.:P
It’s irrelevant because there are too many cameras everywhere else for it to make any difference…
we already have then
and no i don’t
ha, I knew you could not stay away foever, no not really
only if they didn’t have my permission first
nice site! i love the orange…its my favorite color! : )
Rachel
No way. I think it is a good idea
So Dan… Are you taking my dare found Here?
In response to your question… yes and no… No in the sense that if you don’t do anything wrong, you shouldn’t have anything to hide. Yes in the sense that there still ought to be some privacy.
No, it wouldn’t bother me in the least. All of my neighbors know what I am doing anyway, and I’m not doing anything wrong. Your privacy doesn’t extend beyond your front door!
yes, I would. I would imagine that military regimes start the same way………for “your own good” of course. It goes w/out saying that I am a little anti-government anyway.
(((big hug)))
Yay glad to see you posting again.
I would feel like my privacy was being invaded. Its on a public street and I am sure the camera can be put at any angle and it most likely has a zoom function. What if someone who had control of the camera didnt have the best of intentions? They could easily aim it at someones window. Catching drug dealers: good. Invading privacy to catch drug dealers: Bad. No one should be willing to give up their rights for anything.
I don’t think it’s a violation of privacy to monitor a public area.
mmm… as long as that camera wasn’t pointed into my house, i guess it would be OK. i mean, public property is just that right- PUBLIC.
ryc: yeah… they’re all chinese songs
i’m in taiwan.
It wouldn’t be a violation of privacy if it’s outside the home because that becomes public property anyway. Now, inside the home is definitely and invasion of privacy.
*~Christi~*
ooh another thing though.. i heard some statistics on these public cameras.. and in england, they haven’t helped prevent crime at all.
I would be fine with it…I have nothing to hide.
and…The cat came back, the very next day…the cat came back! (we thought he was a gonner) but the cat came back…he just couldn’t stay awaaaaayyy…
no, i would be fine with that.
no, if it’s to keep the neighborhood safe. i’ve got not’in to hide. but i hope they know where they are pointing that camera to and that it’s not abused.
you’re a dork
Yes I think I would.
Nope, I say go for it!
it depends where it was set up. Like in my back yard YES. Checking my driveway/front door. NO
Thanks for the comment. I think our military men work too hard and play too hard, lol. I’ll just leave it at that.
As for the question on your post: I think that if it is public property that is being observed by a public official or protector of the peace that is ok. Or if you put up surveillance in a private business or your own home that is reasonable. But what I would see as a violation would be a community camera monitoring activities on private property without the owner’s knowledge and consent. Camera’s at traffic lights are cool, I like knowing people who run red lights around here will be ticketed.
Florida?! All that humidity? Naw, I don’t care about the camera thing. If I want to do something I don’t want someone to see, I do it behind closed doors. Oh, I feel another country song coming on!
Tim
ummm. please comment again. i didn’t write anything down.
we have cameras everywhere in florida…don’t come here…tell all your friends…especially those that can’t drive worth a ……
NO, as long as they are not in my home.
i wouldn’t care.. as long as it weren’t looking through my windows..
You’re back! Cameras are everywhere, in stores, on traffic lights, at toll booths, etc. If the camera is on private property facing public property i’m not sure it is right. But, if it stops the drug activity and other illegal activites then so be it.
I would do anything to have my own privacy.. =D
I’d be a little concerned about my privacy, yes. I like the idea in theory, but that camera better not have the ability to look inside my windows.
No, because for number one it is overlooking public property. You are most likely being watched by cameras when you you to any other public place, like the mall, the grocery store, etc. So what’s the difference? And also, it is set up to catch crimes. If you aren’t commiting a crime, then what are you worried about?
As long as it is not abused, such as being using to watch private property, in bathrooms, etc, I don’t see a problem. I do think the majority of a community should be in agreement before any cameras are set up. Of course… If the whole community knows about the cameras, won’t the drug dealers just find somewhere else to do it?
i like your retirement. it’s like you haven’t retired at all, practically speaking.
No, not at all.
Why would it be?
People are crazy out there today and it is prevention/deterrent in my book.
It is not like it is in your bedroom.
I do still love you…it appears we all “knew you wouldn’t stay away for long” lol.
Does retirement mean you are only posting once a day now? LOL!
Cameras are everywhere nowadays, I don’t think it would bother me.
I like this xanga! It’s very laid-back. …
Anyway, i don’t think that i would particularly want cameras in my house, but if there was a good reason (as in bad crime) i don’t suppose i would mind too much.
By the way, don’t listen to “iWAsboRdTOdEaTh” [or some variation thereof]. I like the “retirement saga”.
Well, they set up cameras all the time to watch for people who run red lights at busy intersections. And in schools often, too. I don’t think I’d care if it was in a park, or a similar public place, but I wouldn’t want one watching my front yard.
i knew you would return.
Cameras in public aren’t privacy violations. My gosh – check out all the camera phones available these days. Anybody could be snapping your picture. Wire tapping and cameras inside your home is a different story. You want privacy? Go home and close the blinds. You don’t want to get caught doing illegal stuff? Then don’t do it.
They have cameras at stop lights, in amusement parks (read the fine print – they can and will snap your pics and sell it), at any area attraction.
Back in the late ’80′s, my family was photographed without my knowledge or consent and used to promote a corporation. Perfectly legal. I guess they thought we were cute or something (we still are).
This really isn’t new, just more prevalent.
No I wouldn’t, because I don’t do anything illegal. Especially not in public.
However, as an American, I have a right to privacy, so I wouldn’t be particularly pleased if there were suddenly cameras around watching every doorway.
We have cameras on street lights now to help determine accidents and such, so I’m guessing it wouldn’t be much more intrusive than that, only the purpose would be to catch much more personal activity.
so your back?
if its for the right reasons its all good
Not if they’re monitoring public areas… If you don’t want to get caught doing something, don’t ever do it in a public space.
wow…so i wouldnt be able to pick my nose or undo a wedgie w/o somebody knowing it. that would suck. soon they’ll have cameras that can pick up when somebody farts because on video it’ll come up color.
It’s on private property, so they should be able to do whatever they want.
the community can do whatever they wish.
The community is wanting help so I think its ok, its when the government goes into monitoring peoples lives without knowledge is when privacy is at issue.
Just like how the Patriot act is set up as it is.
cameras are already everywhere anyway. in a public place, i see no problem. now, if the camera is pointed into a home, that’s another story.
no. i think i’d actually feel safer [not that my community is dangerous. my community at school is a different story though.]. look at monaco, the entire principality is under watch by cameras and that is one of the safest places in the world. there are barely any robberies, etc. and there are a TON of super rich people there.
For the most part, I am against cameras anywhere. If the crime was so high, and I felt so unsafe, I would think it would ok. Life most things in life, it depends what is more important.
Glad you are coming out of retirement.
Yeah. not only owuld I feel like my privacy was being invaded, but every change I got, I would shoot the shit out that camera and bust it up into a million pieces.
To get around that 4th amendment stumbling block, they could always post signs – not close to the camera, but in the vicinity as a warning. Given the regard most people have for signs, it wouldn’t tip anyone off. The warning could also be posted in the newspaper as a public announcement once in a while. I would think that some of the area radio stations would get on board and make the announcement and I will wager that there will still be substantial drug activity in the area.
In essence, anyone in public – as on a public street – has no reasonable expectation of privacy anyway.
RYC:
“You just can’t walk into your commanders office and say you are gay. Those who do want out.”
That might be a good way to get educated as a doctor of physician’s assistant and then get out and start making the big bucks, huh?
Thanks for your comment, Dan. Have a great day.
L,r
Boy am I glad to see you back. You were MISSED!!!
First of all, I would *never* move to Florida…!!! So I cannot answer this question. I hate Florida!!!
Right after Christmas, USA Today posted a story on a similar topic: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2005-12-29-camera-laws_x.htm
Basically, it made it very clear that the courts have ruled that if a person is in an area where the average intelligent person would not generally have an assumption of privacy (basically if a person isn’t in a bathroom, their house, or dressing room) then they can legally be photographed. As far as those photographs being turned over to police, anything that is your personal property can legally be turned over to police if you choose to do so for aiding an investigation, and the photos would be your property.
So, I’m all for it.
Love the new profile pic, by the way.
privacy.. yeah.. most likely some how.. some way.. it will leak out.. and there will be a lot more things on TV… it’s called CTV in some places…
It’s okay with me if it’s on public property. Your profile picture does a great job of reflecting retirement. =)
I’d be ok with it…as long as no one could see me in the shower or even in my house…lol
If the cameras were only outside, in public areas, that would be fine…
I agree with what seems to be the common sentiment. As long as the camera isn’t aimed into someone’s home, I wouldn’t care.
Yes – I think it would make me feel uncomfortable. If they were set up in my residential area, I would feel strong enough to either try to get them removed on the grounds that my privacy was being invaded or consider moving to another place without them.
I am aware, however, that more and more security cameras are being put up every day. When we go into a store, we are often on camera. Banks have them. People have them on their private property, as well. I tend to think that these are necessary and dismiss them. The difference would be if they were near where I lived. I wouldn’t like that at all.
testing…Loving the new look, by the way.
I tend to think that if you’re out in public, you’re, well, out in public. People can see you anyway. Pointing such cameras on private property would be something quite different.
Hah, not like our privacy as Americans still exist or anything.
Ooo. Cool color update! I would only feel it was a violation if cameras were in my house. I like the idea of the outside being monitored, like at my university. It feels very safe.
No. I would feel safer.
Oh yeah, I am SO GLAD you are back.
Xanga is too addicting to stay away
Only if the camera was watching me on my own property without my permission, then I would call it an invasion of privacy. However, if I’m in a public place, than there really is no such thing as privacy.
hmmm…thats a tuffy. if they had my permission for it to be on M property i guess itd be fine but if it was done without my knowledge on MY property then yeah thats definately an invasion of privacy. i completely understand the reasoning thouhg.
For some reason if the camera is in a public area and the residents are aware of it, I would not consider it a violation of privacy. Violation of Privacy would be if they placed the camera inside my home…
Dan!That retirement was more like a mini-vacation.Its great to have you back thou! It was sad seeing your name go down on my subscription list because you didnt update.
reminds me of the simpsons episode!
my professor records each one of our class group discussions…it’s a bit awkward.
wouldn’t the drug dealers not deal there since they know cameras are set up?
You know you can’t keep away…..
And no. Not if it were set up to record activity on public property, which, by definition, does not entitle privacy.
welcome back, michael jordan!
Admit it, you aren’t retiring!!!
If it is on public property, I don’t care. I don’t have anything to hide. If it is shooting people’s homes, that is a problem. I’d like to feel comfortable in my own home.
I definitely wouldn’t, actually because of the neighborhood I live in if they had more cameras up, I would feel a ton safer because robberies are a huge issue around here and people get mugged all the freakin time. I wouldn’t feel the need to constantly look over my shoulder and be paranoid when walking by myself at night.
On a lighter note, how many more retirement post coming up?
privacy is a serious issue now. Google is fighting with FBI these days.
Yes
No, because I have seen cameras all over town, in various places. It’s become a way of life since the OKC bombing and 9/11
first of all i wuld like to say welcome back. and to respond to the question. no i would not consider it a violation of privacy. it would lower the crime rate and more of those drug dealers would leave that area.
OH MY GOODNESS!
LEAVE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!
As long as there was accountability with the police who were monitoring the neighborhood, I’d feel so much safer knowing that if anyone vandalized my home or tried to abduct my children we could catch the criminals. I don’t see why anyone should mind. You cannot live in a 100% free country! If everyone has 100% freedom they are going to infringe on the freedom of someone else. There must be boundaries to protect people, ie. phone taps on international conversations being held with suspected accomplices in brutal attacks on our country! Hello People!? Um, sorry. Didnt mean to go off on that tangent there.
I love being photographed by the man, my loving big brother, always watching, watching, watching. Man, I wouldn’t want to be the person who had to sit by the screen all day, waiting for crime, as the cats pass by, ahhhh. Too much TV in our culture I think. Best, tony.
i wouldn’t really care…..
it’s not like the cameras would be in my house……
people are gonna see you when you walk around outside anyway. why worry if you have nothing to hide?
In some ways I would feel like my privacy was invaded. On the other hand, if I got attacked, maybe the police would have a better chance of finding the guy since he would be on video.
Candy XO
Hmmmmm…..I don’t think I’d feel my privacy was being invaded. You said the camera was set up to record on PUBLIC property. I don’t feel very “private” on public property, anyway…..have to be real careful not to pick my nose and such. Tee hee hee! Just kidding. Trying to pull myself out of the grouchy place that I am in by being silly! Really though, I don’t think this is an invasion of privacy!
I think your retirment might be officialy over. Yes? I don’t mond cameras as long as they are not in my house.
I am very Happy to see you update your site!!!!!Yeah…you are Back Dan : )
Yes…I would feel violated, but I suppose there are cameras everywhere now a days in public areas…I guess as long as it wasn’t viewing any of my public property…I would DEAL with it
Yes, I would object to having a camera in my neighborhood because of concerns about privacy. On the other hand, I could see arguing that if you’re not doing anything wrong, then what is there to worry about?
I am subscribing because I was born and raised in Springfield, Illinois! I miss it… sort of. I live in Michigan now, which is a way cooler state. lol
Sure I would. Then I would remember everything I know about the fourth amendment and I’d have to say, hm, I don’t actually have a privacy interest in a public street. So, I’d guess I’d say no.
not really, no. things like that don’t usually tend to bother me.
If said camera were directed at my property, i would be a little upset. If said camera were directed at public property which I frequented, I would have no qualms. It’s public. Public does not correspond with private.
We have several cameras in my community. No, I don’t feel that my privacy is violated and it might make the community safer for the kids. By the way, I have lived in Florida for my entire life. I wouldn’t recommend retirement here to anyone.
It doesn’t have to be in your community, they can see you from a satelite that is in freakin space!
I wouldn’t feel bad about this. Keeping in mind the ‘philosophy’ of never doing anything you wouldn’t want to get caught doing. I have nothing to hide.
no, got to catch those bad people! Glad your back.
If it’s in a public place then it has every right to be there. It’s the same way with pictures. You have the right to take a picture of anyone at any time as long as they are in a public area. Public is just that, public. You shouldn’t do anything there that you wouldn’t want people to see. A camera shouldn’t matter.
You are just so tempted to come back admit it, Judi
WHy do you keep updating if you said you are retiring? now that i don’t understand.
No! Not unless they have some sort of high tech telephoto, infrared, wierdo lense on it at they point at my house windows!
i think a camera would be great to have. ppl tend to watch what they do when they know they are being filmed. of course… there ARE a lot of camera if you really look. check out the stop lights in your town. bet you catch one or two. i was suprised that even our small town has a couple! technology! what a fun thing eh?
I thought you retired, this is your second post since then. I am losing faith in your quitting. Congrats, welcome back!
Hopefully it would ONLY be used to catch crime that was happening in that neighborhood. But I don’t know that I would want my personal life monitored 24 hrs. a day…so I guess Yea, it would feel like an invasion of privacy; but if I were living in a dangerous-drug-infested-high-crime-rate-community…I would give up my privacy to be safe.
I knew you couldn’t stay away for long! So does this mean, that you have not fully retired?
you are funny.. almost goofy..
just say that you are too addicted to quit and that’ll be that.
i’d feel great if there were cameras..
although it would be awkward knowing that someone is watching my every move… I think I would feel a sense of security in knowing that something is being done to protect and better my neighborhood… also, since they aren’t taping inside my home… I don’t really see the problem ^^
fight crime!!
Yes. My university has a live stream webcam that overlooks the quad, which I find to be frightening. It’s not like I am out there doing anything illegal, but I find it very invasive.
no.
I actually worked selling pumpkins in October on a corner where there was one of those traffic cameras and I was always uncomfortable. I think it is a violation of privacy, but it has also cut down on the number of accidents at that corner. People were dying, alot, because trucks were always running the light. The camera cut down on that and since they had it installed there hasn’t been a single death, so I guess if I was uncomfortable that was okay because people weren’t dying…
I love my big brother
Only if I were doing something bad!
Hm.
No.
What a joke.
I don’t see anything wrong with using video feeds in a consenting community. Maybe I don’t understand though. I’ll just explain more and whatever.
So if it’s on someone’s private property that consents it’s not bad (and I think legal everywhere). If it’s monitoring public streets it might be constitutional simply because the government owns that property, but if that idea’s proven to be illogical I’m willing to back down. I’d certainly say it’s alright on streets on which the community installs their own cameras and asks for the police to help out.
I don’t know if this sounded inteligable, but whatever.
Nope because I know that it is there for safety’s sake. I would actually feel a lot safer with cameras everywhere except private areas such as bathroooms or apartments, but public areas are open territory, if it’s there I would feel safer.
If it overlooks the street, I wouldn’t like it anyway.
Many people have said “well i dun breek deh law so im kool lol
”
Here’s a little story that dates from Nazi Germany:
“First they came for the beggars, and since I was not a beggar, I did not stand up.
Then they came for the gypsies, and since I was not a gypsy, I did not stand up.
Then they came for the Jews, and since I was not a Jew, I did not stand up.
Then they came for me, and no one stood up for me.”
Do we have any privacy anymore, or do we all have to be monitored like we’re guilty?
As long as I could see the footage, I could careless. In our neighborhood in the past year cars have been broken into roughly 8 times. No one heard or saw a thing…cameras would be welcomed!
Hahaha, hard to lay off the xanga, isn’t it?
Is this the compromise between privacy and public safety, I wonder.
Law is, after all, a set of rules that were written by people to govern themselves.
Some of the radicals might jump the gun and quote from 1984, maybe. But I’m sure it will be fine as long as the community has consented on this.
It is, after all, their own decision.
cameras outside are fine.. i live about 2 blocks from the police department and i love it.
yeah i guess it would.
Somewhat.
No. One it is PUBLIC property. Two, it’s not fair for the public to be monitered for safety reasons…but it is fair for the same public to be glued to the televisions, magazines, etc., to watch the personal lives of the ‘celebrities’?
Well I wouldn’t like it… But how is it any different than the camera’s set up in stop lights?
hmmmmm…….that’s a tough one………..lol.
I would wear a mask every time I passed it, and fly the bird right into the lens.
Good to see you back Dan.
Depends on where the camera is located.
are you “retiring” just from xanga? or your actual job as well? retire from xanga already! i’s not that i dun wanna read your blog, it’s just that you have been nagging too much about it without any action.
It depends where the camera is put up.
Actually, I’d much prefer if they put televisors in my house and posters of Big Brother everywhere. Then I’d really feel safe.
After all, if I’m against The Party, I deserve to be punished. “Four legs good, two legs bad!”
Our town has cameras on every street, they said it was to cut down on traffic violators…hmmm? The say it’s for security…to me, it’s all leading to the “ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT” movement where they will know every move you make and can contol you easier.
Similar to RiceBunny, at least you’re still writing on Xanga. That’s good, because we want you too.
nada
I THINK the cameras would be a good thing, because it will lessen crime in public places or areas where there has been a great deal of crime going on, even though it will increase the bad stuff in private places, but YOU SHOULDN’T BE DOING ANYTHING BAD IN THE FIRST PLACE. The cameras aren’t going to invade your privacy THAT BAD. They won’t be like those moving cameras on movies that follow your every move, and the cameras won’t be posted to aim at your front door unless the authorities know you’re into some pretty illegal stuff. There won’t even be that much of them. The cameras will just be used to catch and monitor crime and for security in the places in which they are needed most. How will it violate your rights or invade your privacy? Privacy for what? If you want privacy, go to your own bedroom. And about that US homeland security domestic spying program? I think it is no accident that the US hasn’t had a terrorist attack for over five years. A long time ago I saw that a guy had been arrested because he had been conspiring to blow up the Golden Gate Bridge. Perhaps the spying was used to catch that.
If the camera was not focusing inside houses but on public property such as parks then I have no problem. Stores use cameras everywhere inside and outside the building and no one complains that these are a violation of privacy
I wouldn’t wanna live in Florida and have to worry about hurricanes every year. I know, I know, I live in the bay area and we have earthquakes, blah blah blah… BUT there’s a decent chance that we won’t have a big earthquake for years to come. Florida gets bashed by hurricanes several times every single year.
What do the cameras have access to? Is it just outdoor areas, like the streets of the community? If they can at all see inside houses, then that’s too much. Otherwise it’s passable, but it’s a stretch.
I guess that depends on the people who live in the community.
YES!!!!
i mean it is wierd that your blogging again but I AM SOOOO
HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would be horrofied if there was a camera in the community…
they would catch me masturbating
LOL
BTW
is theologianscafe you????
i dont think it is
If the camera is just viewing the sidewalk or common ground, it wouldn’t be such a big problem…but if that camera can move around, peek into windows, etc, then certainly that’s not right, or legal.
Definitely a violation. Government, especially DEMOCRATIC ones, ought to be optimistic ones. We all know that illegal things happen, but we have a process of believing that everyone is innocent until guilty. Spying on either individuals or even whole communities presupposes guilt and then confirms it. I like being thought of as a good human being and am very upset when people feel the need to bein in control of me as part of their surroundings, and camera’s to monitor me is an unnecessary deterent that controls my behaviour and makes me feel self-concious. It isn’t right and it isn’t in line with “American Values.”
A little. But since I don’t deal drugs, I wouldn’t be all too concerned.
Sometimes it seems that we are being persuaded that with being a little bit uncomfortable, it will make us “safer” or “happier” in the long run. But, what most people don’t realize is that the more we let the government take from us, the more privacy and freedom we use. Soon enough, we may all be wearing masks and metal handicaps to make sure no one feels like another is better than them. After all, we wouldn’t want to lower anyone’s self-esteem, would we? We might just be losing our individuality in the process..
- – > Ariana
dang, i posted that on my sister’s screenname..
- – > Ariana
Woo!! You’re posting agian!!
As, far as cameras go
I don’t like the idea because it gives a little bit more of our privacy away, and little by little we won’t have much privacy at all
♥ A. V. Soria
Nope. It’s in a public area. It’s no different from cameras used by banks and other businesses.
No, I would feel safer~!
Yes! Camera’s are used for deceptive means, i.e. the BBC reported someone who used the cameras to watch naked women in their homes…
What do you mean “if”? There are tons of cameras out there now. And the answer is “yes”, to some extent.
If we could track every movement that everyone did, it would certainly make lives easier for some instances. We WOULD know who dinged our car, who robbed the bank, is our boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife/misc cheating on us, etc. There is absolutely no argument there.
But the price we would pay for this is too high. As Benjamin Franklin said; “They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Do we REALLY want to live in the world of ‘Big Brother’? We are to close as it is.
Image if there was a device created that allowed you the ability to view back thru time. You could see anyone, anywhere at anytime. Image the good you could do with that. You could catch murderers, rapists, arsonists. You would be able to answer all the mysteries of the past. Who REALLY shot Kennedy? What WERE on those missing minutes from Nixon’s tapes? Did Jesus exist as the Bible describes? Where ARE the people from the lost colonists from Roanoke?
But, what else could you learn? Who decides would use the machine? Perhaps the following questions could ALSO be answered? What Did TheTheologiansCafe do while he was away? Who WAS the last person venezuela5 kissed? Does JeddahSterling nosepick or speed while driving? Why does x_tragicbeauty_x spend so much time in the bathroom? Hmmm….x_tragicbeauty_x seems to be in a bad mood today, lets’s watch why. I have never seen the Paris Hilton “tape”, but I don’t need it, let me set the device and just watch what happend with her (or anyone else)…it goes on and on.
We are on a slippery slope and it’s only going to get worse.
I think that it is time for security cameras to be used for the purpose of catching criminals and keeping public places as crime-free as possible. I don’t like my privacy being violated because there are criminals out there doing crime, but I don’t like paying higher prices at the stores because people steal the stuff off the shelves either.
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I don’t see why it would be. You don’t really have much privacy in a public place to begin with because there are other people that can see what you’re doing, so…
it would be a HORRID invasion of my privacy. i would be tempted to do gross (but not illegal) things in front of the camera to make them turn it off… picking my nose comes immediately to mind…
A camera would give me the creeps! Then again, so would drug dealers next door. It is a hard call. The government is installing surveilance cameras all over anyways. They have them at most major intersections here. Supposedly they are here to “protect” us, but actually they are used to rake in revenue by catching people squeezing through yellow/red lights. I just don’t want us to get too comfortable with a “Big Brother” society that thinks spying on people is perfectly legitimate.
They already have them in certain areas here, as well as in Chicago. To “deter crime” you know. Actually, they’re by stop lights that people are known to blow through at dangerous intersections. They have caught a few and levied fines. So I guess in that type of instance, its ok.
I think that if I lived in a high crime-rate neighborhood, I’d really appreciate it. But as I live out in the country, down a dirt road, where the worst (As far as we know) crime is the neighbor’s field being driven through and the mailboxes run down, it would be a little superfluous.
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does it make a difference? the government has sattelites that are so powerful the can look in your bathroom window if you forget to draw the blind. we squawk about all this privacy crap, but really we don’t have any anyway.
As long as the camera was showing pbic property, not at all. Many are worried about maybe someone could angle it into your ouse, but since the police have a live feed, the likelyhood of that are minial. It is a deterant that poses no threat to anyone who is abiding by the law so i see no danger in it.
The police have the same set up in the community where I used to work. i didn’t have a problem with the arrangement. Of course, I wasn’t selling drugs, either….
Hey as long as they’re not IN my house I wouldn’t care. I’ve got nothing to hide. They would just see me yelling at my kids and naked butts getting in the hot tub!
No, I wouldn’t. It’s a public place anyway. All the camera is doing is recording–recording something that anybody could see anyway–so that somebody can go back and “be there” at their own conveinience. And they’re working to catch druggies. That’s good. I certainly don’t have anything to hide, and even if I did, I wouldn’t do it in the city square…. Same with other people: the “good” people have nothing to worry about except misuse of the cameras, and the “bad” people deserve to get caught. This makes it more efficient.
On the other hand, it would have to be in such a place that it couldn’t use the zoom function and go peeping.
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They already are.
If you are referring to a news report on Fox News Channel, I do believe that this location was a heavy crime area and most, if not all of the people who live there are in favor of this set of cameras. The crime has gone down over 60% in that small areas since the cameras were installed.
It would not bother me at all to have cameras in our areas. I have nothing to hide.
Becker
No, I have nothing that I need to hide.
No, I wouldn’t, if the camera was directed at public property – in a public place. The police and your neighbors should be allowed to see what you do in this situation as they would if they were walking down the street. If you are ashamed or conerned about what you do in a public place – don’t do it in a public place. Tyr your own back yard.
it only violates your privacy if your are in a private place….outdoors arent really private…..if you have cameras in a public park, that’s fine….mall cafeteria, ok…..department store dressing room…definitely not fine….I don’t feel that it should upset people in the area or even passers by…Honestly, I would encourage that sort of thing in my neighborhood…especially if it prevented the escalation of crime in any way….ps….if you watch fox news you rock!!! bill o reilly is one cool dude! :>
yes because I would hate someone to be watching my every move but then again I have nothing to hide so I guess it wouldn’t be a big issue
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sure it’d be fine with me, as long as its not pointing directly in anyone’s window or anything like that itd be fine
Absolutley
I think we need to determine what is public and what is private. My house and my property is private. That is where I should be able to move freely without indescriminate cameras being set up (there again, I am not a criminal!) But what happens outside my own home is public domain. If the community wants to set up cameras in the public domain to keep the public safe that is alright by me. Just don’t invade my house without a possible reason.
in melb oz ..they have traffic cams…
they r suppose to watch the traffic.
but i know for a fact ..they watch other stuff….
knowing that …yes..
i think it is an invasion
ps …did u know most elevators have cams…
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no its fine…better safe then violated..and Florida actually sounds like the best place to live
yes