February 23, 2006
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Men Part 2
I was reading the answers to my last post and it caused me to start thinking.
Do women have higher expectations out of men than men have out of women?
I was reading the answers to my last post and it caused me to start thinking.
Do women have higher expectations out of men than men have out of women?
Comments (176)
yes
I think so
women want the whole package. phone calls flowers. etc
boys… iono wat they want. a relation of course. but. not as much as women want.
Yeah, I’d say so.
men have expectations? Did you change the font on your comments? I’m typing funny.
All I’m after is a nice rack, a sense of humor, and a touch of the literati.
Nice eyes, too. Soft blue.
Also a girl who likes having how I’d kill her described to her!
And you know, you’d think I’d have no luck, but…
maybe.
Probably. I dunno for sure, I’m not a woman, haha.
-Jared
I don’t think anyone can answer this honestly, because they don’t get to see both sides of the two way street.
ryc- I “fell asleep” before it got to the talking point, that is one conversation I didn’t want to fulfill with my dad.
I don’t think so.
I think men expect more out of women…. I mean, who cooks the meals? Who cleans the house? Who does the laundry?…
Nicholas
i think it all depends on the person in general. not the sex.
No, just different expectations. Not all, but many men expect women to remain the same way they looked when they first met them. They expect them to assume the traditional role of a woman and do the whole bit of cooking, cleaning, and taking care of the kids. Women, on the other hand, expect men to be just as sweet and thoughtful as they were when they first met them. They expect them to assume the traditional role of a man and be the provider: work his butt off to provide for her and then complain she doesn’t see him enough and the protector: defend her against all his evil guy friends when they speak, truthful or not, trash about her.
they both expect different things
men- looks
women- how well a man treats her.
It depends. You teach people how to treat you, so maybe that has something to do with it.
Hey, I’m realistic — I know I’m a sleazy tit-obsessed bastard.
IT’S CHARMING DAMMIT
Women have lower physical expectations, but higher emotional ones.
No… men just want different things.
Women have higher mental/emotional expections, while men have higher physical ones.
… and I didn’t even need to say that, because the genius above me did.
i think that men do not expect to be treated like royalty, they just want to be treated honestly and with respect. or something like that
i don’t know, i’m not a man. and i don’t have very high expectations of them either.
So we’re either right or just unoriginal.
I’m not sure what men expect from women besides regular sex but I definitely think women expect lots of things from men and those expectations aren’t met.
Women have lower physical expectations, but higher emotional ones.
Posted 2/23/2006 at 8:46 PM by jojomarco
That sounds about right.
And I think, both have expectations of physical and emotional, but one could be higher than the other.
God bless ye today
Yes … but women call their ‘high expectations’ common sense! Doh! <><
Nah, its about equal, but in different categories. Men expect stunning looks and things they can see, but women expect stunning looks and wonderful personalities.
Lets put it this way, how many people, of either gender, would marry a person who was very ugly?
Eva.
I think it depends on the person and their personality. I’m not sure.
Yes, I think so.
Yes
I just have to add this:
Not all mother-in-laws are bitches, not all lawyers are liars, not all Christians are hypocrits, not all black guys are gang members, not all women think they are a princess, and not all men are only obsessed with sex.
Stereotypes are so terrible. They ruin it for the rest of us.
Most likely.
hahahahhahah yeah,..
it really depends on what women are after. Most of the time women are after financial security,if they don’t have it, and tend to overlook physical features. If women are in a better place then they want the entire package. Men tend to do the same, except they might let a lower class beautful person in their circle, this is a way women move up to higher classes.
its a power relationship most of the time, but then again other times its based outta physical features. Maturity seems to play that game.
Wow! Guys have expectations?
Fallon
I would say men probably have higher physical expectations than emotional. Not all men of course but the majority. Now you know a man would much rather have a girl that is drop dead gorgeus, with no flaws to her body than a girl that is’nt as gorgeus and is smarter and more emotional….don’t you think. But girls think the same way at a certain level. Even though some girls say it’s not what’s on the outside that matters…you know deep down they’re really looking at both the outside and the inside. Men will let a women who is flawless push them around(sometimes) but women won’t date a jerk just because he’s hot(sometimes) so I would have to say the way men and women think are somehow going to be equal because not everybody is the same so what one man thinks is totally differnent than what another one thinks and what one woman thinks is totally different than what another one thinks….you get what I’m saying? I’m kind of confusing myself now.lol.
Yes.
35th comment! Dude you get a lot of comments really fast.
Possibly…. I guess it really depends from person to person.
funny_guydude<—-I agree with what they are saying 100%. I hate when women steriotype every guy into one group saying that they are all stupid that is pure ignorance and it just for some reason gets to me so much! by saying that you are in my appinion the stupid one! You should never degrade somebody!is that a word…lol.
Ok I’m a cheerleader, everybody thinks I’m supposed to be some happy all the time, airhead. maybe I’m a airheaded sometimes but I’m smart too….and make myself sound like a conceited bitch other times…lol.
people put jocks into a group that they get bad grades. well in order to be a jock you need to get good grades so that just ruins that for whoever beleives that.
steriotyping is just stupid and annoying…get a life people.
thannnk youuu
And no, we have high personality expectations, they all think that they should have the prettiest women.
Well, the shallow ones. I guess some are alright.
yes
I don’t like to generalize
but whenever I go to the mall with my friend, guys will stop me and be like “who is your friend? she’s really hot.” it kinda hurts my feelings sometimes. It’s so shallow, they don’t even know her.
it depends what kind of ‘expectation’ is in our discussion.
if it’s in the career aspect, i think that’s true.
but if it’s in the relationship part, like commitment, i think sometimes, men DO expect more out of women.
Not higher…just different….
um.. I think it’s about the same
i hope your day went well too.
I mean its like some of them see a pretty face and that’s all they need. It’s not like any guy would just go up and randomly start flirting with a girl they thought was ugly.
i learned to stop expecting anything.
i hope guys expect nothing from me, too, bc i don’t wait for them, either!
yeah.. i guess its true.. basically, women have more expectations than men… they expect so much that when their expectations hadn’t met, they kept on nagging the men.. lol
have a nice day Mr Dan.. God bless…:)
But some guys don’t expect too much.
hmm.. lucky me.. im in top 50..lol
Most definitely. For all of our talk of independence…we are all truly just looking for a man to love us and take care of us.
Some of them are hypocrites. My uncle is huge and he wont date fat girls. He thinks he should have a perfect girl even though he is the farthest thing from perfect.
its so annoying
Kristina
How do you keep up this xanga so well? You are like a xanga celebrity.
Yes
Yes and I blame it on the media. We have unrealistic expectations from all the cheesy stuff we see men do in romantic movies and in TV shows.
And considering the fact that women are just superior to men, of course we have unrealistic and high expectations that men could not possibly meet bc they lack the capacity and the sense to do so.
yup.. i definitely think they have much higher expectations…for many things too
buttt then i think some guys do expect some out of girls..pretty, nice body..blah..but maybe thats just some guys.. i know not all guys are like that
Higher? No, I would say very different.
Not sure on this one. I would prob lean toward women over men.
Most of the men would high expectations for sex…..People should not be judged by looks, its the person on the inside not whats on the outside.
yeah. women are more “i want to settle down” and men are more “i need more action.” or at least thats what i think haha. that could be based on that whole age thing where women have a more urgent need to get married asap while they’re still young and it doesnt really matter as much for men.
men expect women to be nearly perfect physically.
women expect men to be nearly perfect emotionally.
at least that’s my stereotype for now.
Not necessarily. We just have different expectations, and they tend to clash. Almost always.
It depends on the individual, but in general I think men have higher expectations from women.
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Lori
no, I think women has less expectations because of all those movies and stories of how the women goes out with the guy that is ugly, but has a good heart. And as for the men those stories where the men has to get the most sexy and beauitful mate they could fine. Yeah I think womens has less expectations.
depends
It depends. I personally think equally.
probably, but to us women, the expectation isn’t high at all. it’s common sense.
we talk about this in group all the time. the men seem to want a strong friendship that might lead to something else in the distant future, or it might not. the women seem to want to be in a “relationship” or else they feel they are wasting their time. for the women in my group that would be pretty nearly true as they are in their late 30s and their biology is nudging them since they both want to have families. the men are the same age, but since their biology doesn’t restrict them as much, they don’t feel that pressure.
i think both men and women would be better off if they just told their prospective partners how they feel, but they also equally seem to assume that they know what the partner feels and never ask. it is less a matter of mismatch expectations than non-existent communication.
depends on the area. Looks, table manners, whatever. In some areas men have higher expectations and in other areas its vice versa.
not at all, we have the same level of expectations it is just that the men can’t fulfill them! lol, jk… i don’t think so though, i think that women just have different expectations.
I think that that is a case by case sitch…. but… I think so, its just how our brains work…
Yes, most of the time. I think we see those way to common exceptions.
a lot of times yeah, just in a different way.
Hell yes. But smart women know not to do this.
No sweeping generalization will do.
Folks is folks. Each one of us comes with our own baggage, our own expectations, our own indoctrinations, our own worldview of how things are and how they should be.
I think women have DIFFERENT expectations than men do… but not necessarily higher ones.
yes, women always look for what they been searching for in a man but men…..they take what they can get and if she doesnt come out as expected, he’ll work with it.
I think it depends more on which specific women/men you’re talking about.
Id say it’s pretty equal. It might be as your question worded it though.
Woman do have more expectations, especially if they are looking for a relationship!!
as a woman who has been in a serious relationship for quite some time now…i would agree that woman expect alot more out of men than women….not that men dont expect certain things from his partner….men mostly feel if he really loves you…you should know that know matter what he does for you and he is secure in his relationship without his partner going out and doing “extras”for him…where as women have a security problems…we always think something is wrong when there really isnt anything wrong….or we need to talk about everything when there really isnt anything to talk about when it comes to how our partners feel…and we have to be shown how much we are loved by the things our partner does for us…in order to believe they really love us….we just want to feel special….its sad but true….after so long though it is just companionship that both sexes need and when “extras” are done sparingly girls….thats when you should be like wow he really does love me how thoughtful of him!!…dont expect it cause if you expect it all the time it gets old and its not special anymore when a man does those little extra things for you….both sexes just need to try and appreciate each other and that you are by each others side through thick and thin…thats what matters.
Yeah, women expect a man to be their “prince charming”. . .
News flash ladies, most men aren’t your “knight in shining armor”.
Haha, guess there are very few of us (us as in the knights or the princes) left, domed to die out and be taken over by pig headed men who care only about food/sports(TV)/and sex.
Pifft men. . . .what makes us like them any who?
I think it’s interesting how you’re not getting as many responses to this question..
RYC: Wellllll the guys were friends with my friend’s boyfriend..he’s a big punk rocker type soo that’s probably why his friends look “out there.”
Plus they’re still in college. My friends are somewhat normal, but being completely normal is boring heh and once we drink we do stupid things.
Most women crave constant attention from men simply because “I am woman” and not a response to how much a man values her as an individual. Women do very little to evoke mature responses from well adjusted men so they get emo boys wearing girl pants. The unlearned man appears uncaring for the challenge is to great given the thin gruel men feed on from the culture. He has the capacity but is - for lack of a better term escaping me right now - deballed. Feminism’s curse on the modern woman creates false expectations on men who like Samson have had their perverbial hair cut off. Blinded and shorn we ‘tear down buildings’.
hell yea.
I expect very little from women in general. Nearly the whole lot has been ruined. Rare indeed is a good woman as well as a good man.
I think so. i think a woman expects a man to begin to understand what is a priority to her and hopes the man will change because of that. Men are capable of this change, but it doesn’t happen very often. Men seem to have more of an “I love you for who you are, so you should love me for how I am . . . no strings attached.” What they don’t understand is that women still love them even if they don’t change, but life would be a lot easier for everyone if they would make the effort.
The only difference is in what is expected. Women want a little tender loving care; men tend to not understand those things, so they flunk the test most of the time. What men do expect from a woman is more on the practical side of living – meals, clean clothes, manage the kids, etc.
On an entirely different note, I think the only problem with getting as many comments as you do, is that it’s harder to have debates and conversations because you’ve got like 200 opinions rather than the 4 or five that make a great debate string. Just thinking that.
We expect more out of guys coz we don’t really even understand girls and they don’t really understand us.
I am now going to reveal to you what women want, have always wanted and will always be looking for in any man with whom they become intimate. It is a “Trump” attribute, which means that its presence is a more powerful influence than others and can tip the scales of emotional acceptance in your favor immediately.
Be advised that I will be dealing with a monumental but accurate generalization which is not meant to apply to every female who ever lived. I bow to the variability within and between the sexes. Nonetheless, you will see that my assertion has the undeniable thud of the obvious.
If you feel the cold chill of disbelief or the fever of indignation rising in you at these words, please consult with Woody Allen, a cunning expert at attracting beautiful talented women on the sheer force of this “Trump” attribute which draws women like… migrating butterflies.
What women want from men is confidence. The Trump is Personal Confidence.
Confidence… not arrogance, not dominance, not one-upsmanship, not useless bravado, not macho heroics. Women just love truly confident men.
Now as you know, confidence is an attitude thing. In particular, male confidence frequently manifests as an “I-can-handle-it attitude”. This does not mean that feelings are denied. It doesn’t imply an absence of doubt, fear, or vulnerability. A delusion of total self sufficiency is not required.
Confidence simply says: “I can deal with it… somehow… well at least I’ll do my best”. The attitude of confidence doesn’t even have to be constant, just generally present in the face of most life challenges.
For hundreds of thousands of years of human development, a confident attitude was much easier for men to gain and display than it is now because it was required for survival. There was hardly any choice. Until recently, the demands of physical survival were the primary issue in pair-bonding and confidence-building roles for both sexes directly related to survival were far more apparent. I am not talking about survival in extraordinary circumstances, either. It could be as basic as steadfastness in getting the crops in out of the rain.
In the smaller communities in which we used to live, everyone could see the skilled hunter, the dedicated farmer and stockman, the courageous protector, the skilled artisan, the accomplished leader, the sage teacher, the men who didn’t give up in the face of threatening set-backs.
Why hell! There have been times and cultures where a women wouldn’t even consider a man who couldn’t claim to be a good carpenter or a competent dirt mover. These roles, decreed by harsher realities of life than most of us now experience, were obvious advertisements for male virtue, i.e., “I can handle it”.
Unfortunately, the signs indicative of genuine masculine confidence are confusing today and gender roles are a chaotic mess. The external demonstrations of natural confidence have become confused with the poor substitute of consumer status symbols. But… women instinctually look for clues to a man’s level of confidence… and test it to the limit… but not in the old-fashioned way.
Now for the good news! Since confidence is primarily an attitude toward meeting life challenges of all kinds – and there’s no shortage of challenges in the world – the essential attitude can still be cultivated and demonstrated. But it cannot be faked with money, looks, or possessions.
Willingness to face important struggles is still the ultimate key to a woman’s respect. In contemporary times, a man may express this dynamic in many conventional ways. He can show his confidence integrity through competence in his work, education, sports, hobbies, child rearing, or doing home improvements. Actually, we can include here any thing which involves mastering a new learning curve and overcoming ego uncertainties.
Now, if a man really wants to do some crash confidence building these days, he can try still the old-fashioned approach – and many do so.
He can expose himself to more risks and bigger risks: jump out of a few airplanes, compete at martial arts, skiboard off of snowy mountains, lift weights, climb sheer cliffs with only the strength of his fingertips for security, take on dangerous political controversies, start an unusual new business with more enthusiasm than capital, confront and influence provocative teenagers, or spend days in the wilderness with only his tom-tom for company.
But we all know perfectly well that these are methods not character outcomes. It is not the specific activity that matters, what matters is what goes on in the man’s head that makes him feel some sense of Mastery.
Or… a man can cut to the bottom line, avoid physically and financially dangerous experiences, and go for The Really Big Risk… the ultimate emotional challenge. He can work directly at becoming more confident with women themselves. That’s riskier than cliff climbing, anyway!
Although a woman likes to believe a man is willing to deal with a lot of things, what really counts is that he is able to deal with her. A healthy, mature woman resists impassioned commitment to a man who is afraid of her sexuality, her intelligence, or her emotions.
This means gaining confidence and empathy (unavoidably stuck together) in approaching and relating to women on many levels, in the face of rejections real or imagined. And since this is the riskiest venture of all, the pay-off is, appropriately, the biggest: the devotion of a loving woman who can make your life extremely pleasant on a daily basis. Confidence with women in general – beautiful, plain, smart, nice, mean, old, young – every kind of woman – is an unavoidable social skill which can and must be learned if what you want is the greatest intimate relationship of your life.
MEN, on the other hand, would like some good home cooking from time to time, a little bit of intimacy, and some quiet reflecting time.
-Jason-
I do not wish to offend – but to be honest:
I find subjective generalizations about gender nearly as offensive as generalizations about race or ethnicity. (For example, change the words “men” and “women” to racial or ethnic references in your question and you can come up with some rather offensive questions.) But I believe in free speech as well. PC crud can stifle ideas – and who needs that? Statistical observations do not bother me much – like statistical observations about female students performing at higher levels in American schools than males.
I dunno. Broad brushes just bug me a bit I guess…
But, I like your site! There are always a wide variety of opinions on an array of topics!
So, to answer your question.
Yes.
-Jason-
Fuck yes they do…
To be quite honest…I’m fed up with it. Now I do what I do…for myself and not for the benefit of some Norfolk Whore.
Yep. Most Definately.
Hiya dan, I hope your Friday is great. I have a tattoo in the making on my site for today……lol My daughters….lol In answer to your question, yes.
Donna
Most definately.
Not hardly;)
If you are talking men and only men then they expect personalities just like a woman would. But a boy and girl would only expect the way the opposite looks. Then again there are more boys then there are guys..Or as we call them in 1st “Tigger Boys”
Well well well what a question in deed. Men when they find a women that will be their life partner they seem to think she has nothing better to do with her life ever again. We give our all keeping the house, doing the laundry, usaully the lawn work, the kids etc. Men once they get this woman sit there and pile more on us. We expect them not to cheat and be a good provider. You men want it all and we just try to make everyone happy and give up nice things to provide happiness. Sometimes we want more and then we are told aw come on now. So who is right and who is wrong, both are and yet no one wins. Explain this complication.
HAHA dont even get me started!!!
that is the most stupid entry I’ve ever come across
what are you, a blithering idiot?
No, men have pretty high (often unreasonable and contradictory) expectations of women themselves. It’s a modern society thing not a gender thing. In the old days people were content with the bride or groom their parents chose for them!
you will have to ask those who have undergone sex change operations!
I’m not sure. I DO think that men definitely have higher physical expectations.
As people before me have mentioned – not higher on the women’s part, just different. I don’t need to repeat it: women have higher emotional expectations, while men have higher physical expectations.
Although, I wouldn’t make that too general a statement, because everyone is ‘an individual’. We all have our own personalities.
God bless,
Shohna
[GENERALIZATION ALERT!]
Guy’s expectations about women seem to be a little more straight-forward and out in the open. [But that's maybe just because I'm a guy and spend more time hearing the man's point of view.] Nevertheless, just because his expectations are out in the open does not mean they are any easier to meet. Women’s expectations, on the other hand, seem to be a bit more nebulous. The man not only needs to meet the woman’s expectations, he even needs to guess what they are without being told. If he has to ask, it’s already too late for him to live up to them.
[IF THIS HAS BEEN AN ACTUAL GENERALIZATION, IT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY HURT FEELINGS, CONTINUED FRUSTRATION, AND MISINFORMATION. I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE. END GENERALIZATION ALERT.]
It goes back to the differences between men and women — and the differences between individual men and individual women. We value different things. We need to be more open and realistic about the expectations we have — for the sake of those around us, and for our own sanity.
It depends, but in general, I think women have higher expectations than men. Men have a hard time even asking for a date, at times.
ryc: Sometimes anger can lead us to do something constructive! It’s like stress–some people want to be stress-free, but that’s not good, as there is good stress!
Men with the physical epectations, women with the emotional? Lets break it down… men see hips, they see youth, they see breasts. All indicators of fertility, thus a deposit of sperm would be more likely for genetic success.
Women can only bear so many children. They need to choose whose sperm gets deposited or she would be all used up rather quickly.
Thats about how I see it…
In a very general deconstructed sort of way.
The expectations are different.
men = stupid
end of story.
In some ways I do think women expect more.
Who knows?
Regardless of the answer no two slices of bread are the same.
Men just want to feel needed and respected…
No, I don’t think so. The expectations are not higher; they are simply different. Men and women are biologically different, and pay more attention — also based on their physiology — to different things. For instance, the eye has many sex-receptor sites. In women, these sex receptors, recieving an X chromosome, are wired so that the female pays more attention to color and texture (citation: “Why Gender Matters,” Leonard Sax, MD. Ph.D), on average; the male eye, through recieving a Y chromosome, is wired so that it is much easier to catch on to movement. This is considered to be an evolutionary advantage; hunting, it is thought, fell to the males of old, and as anyone who has been on a hunt knows, it’s movements, not color, that is what you must pay attention to.
This could explain a more typical love of clothes among females, or a more typical love of contact sports among men.
Also, males tend to lack the same type of connection between their emotional centers — the Amygdala — and their communicatory cortex, which is, I believe, the parietal in the right hemisphere (it could be left; I always mix the two). Both male and female humans start off with their emotional centers strictly within the Amygdala; as time goes on, it’s been found that women are the ones who more commonly develope a strong tie with between this emotional center and their center for verbal expression, which may account for the stereotype that woman are more in touch with their feelings, or that men who are in touch as well are considered more “femenine,” though I think the stereotype is a bit silly, when it’s used as an exclusive measure of a person or persona.
It’s not that women want any more of men than men do of women; it’s simply that they want different things. I, for example, as a male, wouldn’t necessarily wish heaps of any woman who I was to call my significant other. She doesn’t have to enjoy what I do; she simply has to respect those likings, and realize that we are beautiful where we differ, and that the differences add to the relationship. I’m all for going out and going shopping with her; whatever she’d like to do as a couple is fine and dandy. If I were in a relationship I’d enjoy spending that time together, so it wouldn’t matter if we were looking for a pink, daimond-studded pursue in which to put our future toy-poodle, or going to a football game.
I think that many people make far too big a mess out of this molehill. As I said in my comment in the last topic, it’s all about personal rapport. If you have a good, understanding relationship then I don’t think it should be that difficult.
Stephen
yes
Most definitely.
I used to, but I’m tired of being disappointed. Now I’m surprised when my low expectations are surpassed.
No. Probably not. :X
most certainly
what’s that adage:
“women marry men expecting they will change and they don’t. men mary women expecting she’ll stay the same, and she doesn’t.”
something along those lines. hahaha.
don’t think that applies to all couples
Women are crazy. This summarizes the discussion.
yes yes a thousand times yes.
oh, and looneymoon should go to hell.
What if you win a million dollar lottery … hehehe
TGIF
I don’t really know … I just think we focus on different things. Men tend to want physical perfection while women want emotional perfection. Do either of us get that? Hell naw! It’s not reality!
So what happens is that the ones that do buy into it spend thousands on surgery and/or starve themselves (women) and men (some) try to be someone they are not.
Also have you noticed the comedies? Hot wife with greasy, irritating husband? He gets the physcial part while the woman deals with his shenanigans! Hmmm wonder who wrote that? I do watch some of them though … ha ha
Good morning Dan!!!
I think so. You know the joke. How do you please a woman? Compliment her, adore her, bring her presents, listen to her, etc., etc. How do you please a guy? Show up naked with a six pack of beer. In a generalistic sort of way that kind of sums it up imo.
good question…. I think it goes both ways.
thanks for dropping by on my site. =)
no women dont have higher expectations, just more of them.
I don’t think so,not me anyway…. if anything, I have to remind myself that men are actually humans, capable of THINKING and being smart….. otherwise I would turn into one of those freaky feminists. I have LOWER expectations of men.
i think it depends on the person.you cant really give that headline to males or females.
I would agree with that statement!!
Yes but also…
Women expect more out of men, and women expect more out of women.
I don’t think it’s something that can be generalized….I found my husband and I gave him a list of expectations when we started out, as he did me….He was a bit more forgiving than I was
’til the next
“they both expect different things…”
I would tend to agree with this statement. The question is a hard one to answer, as all of us must come from some sort of bias or presupposition about the opposite sex because there is no such thing as an objective view. I believe the answer to the question depends on several factors, one, being the person themselves that is answering the question, two, being the experience they have had with the opposite sex, and three, the relationships with the opposite sex they have had or are having.
wow. Does that make sense?
I think it’s hard to measure how high expectations are, but I think women are more often dissapointed with men than men are dissapointed with women.
Men are pigs. They just want food, sex, beer, and control of the remote. (Not necessarily in that order.)
Ha ha ha!!!
Okay. Not all men. But lots.
Let us hope not.
I’m not sure. I think men and women both have unreachable expectations for each other. I don’t think one has more expectations than the other one.
Nah, I don’t think women have higher expectations out of men than men do for women. I think they’re equally pretty high. Women expect men to behave like women, and men expect women to behave like playtoys. That’s all I’m gonna say before I get into trouble.
Have a great weekend! =)
yes and no, probably to men it seems we do, but in reality we just have different expectations. That’s it.
Women and men are different…they expect different things. I don’t think that guys are stupid, I believe they just think and see things differently. We expect different things because that’s how we feel loved when they are fullfilled.
wow eva
as a woman, i would want the whole package. someone i could spend a lot of quality time with, someone who makes me laugh, someone who would give me some security and would want to know the real me and someone who i was compatible with, but not too compatible with, and someone who cares for me as much as i care for them.. oh, and.. you know, it helps if they’re a good kisser.
but i have yet to find someone who satisfies all of those. they all seem to fall short in the commitment area. that’s probably because men don’t want the same things. they don’t want to stay by someone’s side i guess.
yes
yes…maybe…i believe that”Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus”hahaha…wish you and your family have a nice weekend Dan ^^
I see quite a lot of women and I am not necessarily thinking of here and now who think they know what men want, and men who think they know what women want. Hearing a woman say to me “You men are all alike, all you think about is sex” is a pretty good way to put me off, unless she says it with a smile on her face heh heh.
Thanks to the Theologian’s Cafe for some interesting and challenging questions.
Again, I’d have to say that it depends on personality. But in general, yes.
It kind of upsets me that so many people agree that men expect more in a physical sense – that is pretty superficial, no? And it seems as though people have accepted that and it has now become the norm. Anyway, I do believe it depends on the individual. There are both similar and different cases for both men and women. But, I do think that as woman – having the tendancy to be more emotional and what not, we expect more than men do. For instance, I think women focus on the “little things”, on the details of the relationship. While men have the tendancy to forget. But, it really does depend on the individual. But I have to say (again), it bothers me that so many of those who replied stated that men have higher expectations in which women have to always look good, be ready to clean and cook. all i have to say about that is: retarded.
I THINK WE DO…WOMEN ARE EMOTIONAL & MEN ARE ANALYTICAL…HENCE THE REASON THAT WE “DEMAND” MORE OUT OF MEN THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND. ALSO JUST AN OBSERVATION OF THE MEN THAT HAVE BEEN IN MY LIFE.
I’d say that generally, yes, but if I were a guy, I’d want the girl I’m going after to be freaking perfect because of the way most girls treat guys. It’s accctually quite terrible if you think about it!!!
I think it’s about equal, just in different areas.
Not really
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I think that men and women both have unrealistic expectations of each other.
I think the expectation problem is, men’s expectations are primarily physical. They want a hot chick. Secondarily, they may have role-related expectations about a woman cooking and cleaning and having/raising their kids. The problem is, that’s as far as their expectations really go. You never see a dude who is hoping for a woman with a Ph.D., or a well-paying job, or who is a published author or successful lawyer or politician or doctor. You never see it. And this is why men are really behind. They need to catch up their expectations, and stop just looking at women for their bodies.
Women used to only have expectations about men’s employement stability, earning potential, and emotional stability. He had to be a good provider, and if he was a little ugly, that could be overlooked. Nowadays, however, women really want the complete package– a guy has to look cute and have social skills too, not just be a big earner. Hence the birth of the “metrosexual”. This makes it seem like women expect more than men. But honestly, the world would be a better place if men were hoping for the same thing as women– the complete package. Particularly if more men were willing to rate intellectual and career accomplishments right up there with physical attractiveness as a deciding factor for what makes a “date-worthy” or “marriage-worthy” woman, in the same way some women have taken to deciding that attractiveness can make up for financial/emotional shortcomings in some men, and giving guys who are just cute (but have no other redeeming qualities) a chance.
I guess my point is, everyone has different strengths and flaws, so it’s sad that a few particular things (money/career for men and beauty for women) seem to be the main deciding factors for whether or not somebody will date somebody else. I think people should be more open to the many other good qualities besides those “stereotypical” ones that a potential partner may have to offer.
Once more, I had to have to admit my own ugly thoughs, but yes I would say I feel I expect more from men than women.
I think that men expect women to be how they imagined. Women expect men to be how they imagined. All we can really know about expectations are our own. We can only expect what we expected, take it how it comes. One step at a time.
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i don’t think so – what’s different is how the expectations are met. most men feel loved just by having a women by their side. most women feel loved by being told, shown, treated well, etc…
yes they do because men are more or less(not always this way but……)in general tought not to expect anything from a women because as they’re told women want their money and want to drain the life outt’ve them and never want love (yes i do realize this isnt true in most cases)
yes. we do.
Probably. We think rather differently. And somehow, thinking is not bound to the lines of gender, just as making expectations. Each person is different, and so is the way he thinks.
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Yes
But then again thats probably why we’re so bitchy all the time becasue we expect more and they just give us what they think is good enough which it never is and then they wonder why were mad all the damn time. It’s not pms it’s men!
yeah
both sexes expect too much. or nothing at all.
Expectations depend on the person. Its not fair to generalize.
Youll find a girl who wants the candy flowers etc. but also a girl who just wants you to hold her and is weirded out by receiving lots of gifts.
Sometimes guys want everything out of a girl. to do everything for them.
Others just want a few simple things.
Generalization is such a horrible thing. No two people’s desires are exactly the same.
I don’t think so. I think men have higher expections on women..lol!
Hell, no, at least not from my perspective. All I expect out of him is work and sleep. I cook, Clean, do the laundry, make sure everyone in the family is getting greeting cards on birthdays and holidays, everything pretty much. And if anything isn’t done he’s usually asking me why he doesn’t have a clean uniform for work or why there’s a chewed up branch on the floor. I’m going with men having higher expectations.
Yes
Depends on the woman
Depends on the man
Depends on the situation
Depends on the time
Depends on EVERYTHING
In my case my ex dumped me because he thought I was not enough for him
So it realy does depend.
YES!
no its about the same, just different expectations. women expect fidelity, flowers, all that stuff. But men expect someone to be their emotional support and well, uh, their body. hah