July 31, 2006
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Disappointment
My friend that I linked two post ago shut down her site. She shut down her site because people went over to her site and flamed her. I am disappointed people would do that. I understand that people come to my site and say whatever. I am ok with people expressing their thoughts over here all they want. But I don’t want people to go to the site of someone else and flame them.
I am responsible for linking her. I am sorry that I did. But I am also disappointed that people went over there and gave her such a hard time. I don’t even know who did it because there were so many comments and I just remember a few of the positives.
For now on if I link a site and someone flames them, I will block them from my own site. It is ok to go and have discussion with them but not flame them.
I am disappointed tonight.
Comments (158)
It’s always unfortunate when people do things like that.
People do what they do homie, don’t blame yourself,
awwwwww. Good choice.. I dont like when ppl do that either… its THEIR XANGA
Sorry. People are lame….and obviously have nothing better to do than be assholes. Sorry for your friend.
The world is full of jerks, Dan. That makes it hard on decent people like you.
And when I said sorry, I didn’t mean I went over there. I just meant sorry people are lame. Just wanted to clarify.
that’s awful. I am sorry that happened, but I agree don’t blame yourself. You didn’t tell people to flame her, nor did you think for a second that people would do something like that.
That is not cool…
I’m disappointed also
that is totally irresponsible. it is disappointing. stupid people.
It happens. Send some my way, I won’t mind.
well, you have to realize that there are people like that out there esp. if you are a high traffic site. it’s better to just ignore and delete the comment than actually letting the ignorant person get to you and shutting down YOUR personal blog because of it. i’m sorry your friend closed their site.
We’re in a blog community so I don’t undertsnad why people would go around flaming others because of something they blogged. -_-. Don’t stress Dan.
Some people are so irresponsible.
that really does suck. flaming so bad she had to shut down? that must have been awful. that happened to me about a year ago but i didn’t shut down. i’m glad i didn’t – idk what i’d do without my blog. and you, dan! lol. how was your xangaversary?
How sad. . . .
People suck.
Whoever that person was, I feel bad for them.
That sucks.
RYC: I have seen that video, it’s hillarious. And watching the movie the other night… I can totally see penguins doing that to each other!
I think you should post her comment from the post you linked her on. She made a valid point in that the hamster was contagious. That changed the whole story in my opinion. The safety of people outweighs the animal. I think she did the right thing and people should all be able to know about her comment addition.
You remember when you posted my “hairstylist/flower” shop comment? I received 1,460 visits in two days and a lot of people really slammed me. I deleted most of them, but I didn’t block anybody or judged people who judged me by my two line comment. That’s just life homie. Sometimes we offend people or talk about things that some take personal or feel very strongly about. I never thought to visit her site, perhaps because I didn’t think much of it. But occasionally, I read a comment on your site that affects me and I visit the xanga. I usually read at least 4 or 5 posts before even deciding to leave a comment. Everybody is different. I don’t think that you should hold yorself responsible to police other people (that would be a waste of your time), I mean, come on don’t we all say or do something dumb from time to time. Just my opinion.
no problem – would have made you something, but i had company all weekend. glad it was good, though, and goodness, that was fast! lol
Dan,
I didn’t go flame her….but killing a hampster like that is heartless.
Candy
Well I think it’s lame someone would shut down their site because they didn’t want to hear something. That’s what the frickin’ delete and block button are for. I don’t shut down my site when someone comments something to me that I don’t like – i just erase the comment and it’s like it never happened!
I think the better course of action here would be to just not link to other peoples’s sites. It sounds nice because you get tons of pageviews, but directing traffic is never good. You could just mention the person’s first name without linking to them. People should only be linked if they agree to it (although no matter what it’s always unnecessary and you don’t really get much other than some comments). If the person wants to see a comment about the situation posted, they can just look at your comments rather than have those same comments posted on their own site.
I’m dissapointed hearing that story. Sometimes people really are pathetic.
Yeah, that’s not cool at all.
It’s unfortunate that happened, but not surprising……. considering at the very least the seeming cruelty involved. Hopefully your friend will recover quickly from any nasty comments left there, & start herself a new site…..
I don’t like flamers.
People in this world really suck. Hopefully, some of these people will realize the wrong they have done and apologize. But I doubt they have the balls to do it.
Dan, people are dumb. When someone doesn’t agree with someone’s idea, they chunk shit in their face for it. This is why I’m a hermit.
The world is full of stupid people.
The world can be quite jaded in some areas…hamster murders are the least of our worries these days… what do you think the people of Jerry Springer do to their or other people’s animals?? Or other people for that matter..bla bla bla it’s a shame we don’t get to see how the majority of the world lives….as I said…I put my cat down at the vet recently, and that was enough reality for my naive soul…
I’d kind of like to hear a bit more about what you have to say about your last post
thanks
I didn`t flame her. I visited her site and I read her entry. It really hurt me that someone would do that to a poor animal, a pet. But I see NO reason for people to go over there and say mean things to her, you know? That`s really sad. But its also sad what she did to the hamster. Anyways, no one deserves to be yelled at or flamed for something that they did and I bet she was feeling horrible anyways.
blast them. some of those comments on her post were super jerky and terribly rude.
Bleh, internet politics. :/
Shutting down your Xanga because of people flaming you. At the forum I go to regularly, it’s hard to post more than 5 times without being flamed, you have to learn to deal with it. There are people out on the Intrawebs that do that stuff.
Sure, you were responsible for linking her, but she’s the one responsible for letting them get to her head. You live with it, and just let life go on. Don’t feel disappointed, man.
Some people just deserve a swift kick and a short drop.
I started to feel bad for this person, until I read the comment she left on the hamster post:
“And no, animals don’t have souls.”
What a bitch. I get that getting the hamster put down was expensive, and she wanted an alterior method… but 1) her method was cruel and impractical, and 2) her excuse for it was heartless.
Don’t you hate when that happens?
This guy misunderstood something I meant in humor. Now he’s going at my sister because she tried to defend me, and he thinks I go to Princeton, even though I’m just a KU girl.
Mostly I just wish people would be nice.
1. Did you ask her permission to be linked? If so, it is no longer your fault.
2. She’s a big girl, she should know that words can’t hurt her, especially from people she’s never met.
3. Her post was about brutally killing a hamster. The only person I know that would leave a positive comment on that would be Daniel.
4. Neither of you should’ve expected anything different.
5. That being said, people can express their disgust/disagreement in nicer ways than “you’re a sick monster, I hope you burn in hell” (gogo crazy Christians)
6. Still. It was a post about slamming a hamster against concrete. Did you expect a lot of “good job!” comments??
i’m disappointed too. i just went and read the majority of comments on the entry about mercy killing. and if you don’t see my comment there, i’ll sum it up here. people need to get over because whichever way you kill it, its still going to be dead in the end. i can’t believe that people would go over to her site and say such mean things that would make her shut down the site. what is the xanga world coming to these days..?
Dan, people have a right to speak their minds. That happens all the time on xanga. If you post something for all of xanga to see, people react to it.
Your disapointed for people speaking their minds? Well i’m disapointed you would post the sick story on your site. You linked her and left it open for people to go to her site, so they could reply to her(not saying you wanted it, but you gave the opition too). I think it’s wrong to blame it on others. It was a very sensitive issue, and people who felt strongly about it were going to express themselves.
That’s ridiculous too, blocking someone for speaking their mind? If you link someone and the reader wants to directly talk to that person and comments on their xanga, it’s between those two people. The people who posted to her directly, obviously wanted her to see their view and opinion, whether it mattererd to her or not. It’s not like she came her to read everyones comment on it, after the first comment or so she probably just stopped reading your comments. So therefor, they wanted to make themselves heard and went to her directly. Though, i do think the comments crossed the line, people wished bad things on her…it wasn’t appropriate, but that’s a whole different thing.
She was obviously a compulsive person…slamming hamsters to cement and shutting down her xanga, she obviously didn’t give much thought to the alterative options before hand. She could have blocked people and deleted comments. As for the hamster…well there are better, more humane, ways to kill an animal.
Don’t be disapointed in people for speaking their minds, they have every right to express, you open the topic people will respond. Just because they’re your friend it doesn’t mean it should limit others from expressing themselves.
For the future, if you don’t want this to happen, don’t link them.
Man, that’s just sad. And I think it’s a good idea for you to block those kind of people. Yep
that really sucks… I don’t understand flaming…….. it makes more sense to fuck off and mind your own business if you don’t agree with someone.
That is not cool. Sometimes on xanga people act like French Revolutionaries and go over board.
I would be too, even if you dont agree with someone, thats a load of bunk, if youre so dumb that your idea of giving your opinion is insults, then I think it’s time ot stop giving them.
What else would you expect? This is the human race we are talking about…
It is sad that this happened. You are right–there is a difference between flaming someone and sharing your opinion. That difference is, chiefly, in tone. We Xangans must learn to share an opinion without ostracizing others. Unfortunately, it is a lesson often learned the hard way. I am sorry your friend was subject to such juvenile behavior. I hope she opens a new blog with a new name and starts over. She did no wrong. This is an outlet for free speech, and hers should be heard.
that’s too bad. after my previous attempts at keeping a site going on xanga and then shutting down, i’ve learned not to take xanga so seriously. hopefully, she re-ups with another xanga site and doesn’t get discouraged and leave altogether.
she’ll prolly make a new site and if she doesn’t hate you for linking her i bet you’ll be hearing about it soon… that is if she’s not too busy murdering helpless animals.
i knew people were going to do that. its actually quite immature. i know you must feel terrible but its okay its not your fault people think its okay to do that
I agree with adrienne and your_naughty_vixen – if someone writes about cruelly killing an animal, and then one of the most popular people on xanga links to that story, chances are that there will be a LOT of negative feedback. No doubt some flamers went overboard, and that is disappointing, yes, but far more disappointing is that your friend chose to torture an innocent animal in this way.
I hope this teaches her a lesson about kindness to animals, both of you about responsible posting, and all of those nasty commenters about tolerance and mutual respect. My sympathies at this point are with the hamster.
And yes, I hope this doesn’t discourage her from blogging altogether. It’s too bad she had to shut down her site.
I’m not too surprised. When I saw you had linked her, I figured something like this would happen. I assume she agreed to be linked by you, since you seem to be consistent in asking people first if you can link them.
Honestly, what did she expect? I didn’t leave a comment on her site, but seriously…if she’s going to blog about slamming a hamster against something and having bones and one of its eyes fall out and then agree to get linked by the most popular guy on xanga…then jeeze. Of course she was going to get a lot of flamers.
I have had people come to my site and criticize, ridicule and be downright nasty because they don’t agree with me. And even post things about me on their own site. I use the delete comments for their nasty comments and the block to block them from coming to my site again. That is all she needed to do. I personally would never do such a thing to anyone even the ones who have done it to me. I look at those type people as pathetic losers.
Dan you are far too naive. Or so you pretend to be.
I find it unbelievably childish that someone would flame that. I could understand where she was coming from (I think this is about the hampster?), but I find it rude and immature that someone would go to her website and flame her.
damned flamers.
Flaming isn’t cool. But I have to admit I was rather disturbed about the story of the hamster.
What are you doing up so late?!!
I give you my no-flame guarantee. Just because I couldn’t kill my sick hamster doesn’t mean I’m going to get all mad at someone who could. I mean, I couldn’t eat peas for the longest time because my mom told me they had “little pea faces.” I’m sensitive like that.
I did not flame her but what did you expect????? There are many animal lovers here.I think her post upset them…
i know how that feels it happened to me when i was accused of breaking up hbk519 and sexy_torrie_wilson4149 when i am friends with hbk519! I truly hate it when ppl do that to ppl no one is perfect! Now I’m happily married to an american idol guy name bucky covington
Flaming is not cool!
thats messed up dan but i have a question for u…do u think xanga will ever be brought back 2 life? me and my girlfriend were just talking about that
Also….she has the balls to brutally kill another living thing but can’t take the heat for it?? I am surprised that you are friends with someone like that Dan because she is greatly lacking in empathy/compassion.Actions and consequences, my friend, actions and consequences.
I say again “opinions are like buttholes, everyone’s got them”
As was I and I had been very hard on one of your fans in the past, but not like that. Her life and her familys were threatened
Xanga, like everywhere else is populated by a brood of vipers. Self-righteous arrogance is all that was displayed because of the earlier post. Hamster-smasher or flamer, there’s very little difference. I remember something from the movie, “Kingdom of Heaven” … something like: “He is no man who does not make the world a better place.” It’s a rarity to find someone making xanga a better place.
Dan, you’re extremely nice, almost to a fault. The world is full of sharks and nice dolphins, like you, tend to be the ones hurt in these scenarios. I wouldn’t personally do that to someone’s xanga because I’m not an internet tough guy. Most of them are dolphins in real life and have to exert their shark tendencies on the internet.
Wow, I love analogies.
That sucks. You sound like you’re an elementary school teacher lecturing students about misbehaving during an assembly. I don’t mean you’re condescending, I mean some adults act like elementary school students.
thats mean , i dnt see how people could do that.
some people just get a thrill out of being assholes.
Flaming people is lame. I think the way she handled the situation was poor, but I wouldn’t have flamed her for it. I hope she knows not everybody thinks that way, I’m sorry that people found it okay to do that.
I am sorry that, the lady shut down her site. I visited her site, but I didn’t say anything on there about the discussion. I don’t think it would be right or fair to take a discussion from here, to her site.
So sorry that people felt it was okay to flame her.
Shalom!
I am sorry that the lady shut down her site. I visited her site, but I didn’t say anything on there about the discussion. I don’t think it would be right or fair to take a discussion from here, to her site.
So sorry that people felt it was okay to flame her.
Shalom!
That’s how it is when you care more about animals then people… i’m looking at all you San Fransisco dopes.
I’m man enough to take the flamming if you’re man enough to do the linking.
You can’t be respondsible for people who are just born Tools and Twits! and I agree…that isn’t cool at all… ‘TIl The Next
my xanga is my little corner of the web. Mine. if somebody relentlessly spams me or tries to make me feel as if my own opinions and comments somehow make me less of a person, then they get blocked. simple as that. im all for the free exchange of ideas and criticism, but people who go beyond the boundaries of respect and decency towards their fellow xangans are becoming a nuisance. so dont feel too bad about blocking people. this site has power, and you gotta be responsible with that power.
I know she said the hamster was contagious, but being contagious is not a reason for cruelty
Yeah, the behavior of those people is really disappointing. I feel bad for the girl, even though I didn’t like what she posted. No one deserved to be treated like that.
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neotericc: This is for you since you don’t have the “Comment.” option. Get your facts straight. I did not flame anyone. I merely stated that all living creatures have souls. Personally I think that slamming a hamster repeatedly afgainst cement is cruel and ignorant but I also believe that what you do comes back to you.
Posted 7/31/2006
Aw, sorry. That’s so horrible of someone to do.
That makes me go like this.
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(That’s my bottom lip sticking out.)
Why not put up a link to the flamer’s Xanga? I’m sure they would receive some interesting comments.
what exactly is “flaming”?
sure i’ll tell my opinion, but i’m not gonna go to someone elses site and tell them off for what they think is right and if someone does it to me i could care less if their life is that pointless to mess with people that they don’t even know
It is always unfortunate when people have to be dicks! That is so not cool. We should gang up on people who are doing that! But don’t be so hard on yourself for it!! =]
I’m sorry Dan, that is a crummy way for people to help celebrate your anniversary.
I missed the hamster post, which I gather is what all the fuss is about.
Do you fail to see why she got such negative feedback? What she wrote was truly obscene. It was violent and abusive. Possibly even illegal: “cruelty to animals”. She wrote about slamming a defenseless hamster into the ground to kill it.
The interent is full of immature assholes who thrive off making other people miserable.
I don’t see how crushing an disease-ridden creature is any different from using mousetraps, poisons, or hell, even leathal injection. How do WE know its not any less painless than the first?
People need to learn to GROW UP and realize that not everyone thinks/feel/does things the same way they do. Flaming her is not going to make the hamster come back. Flaming her, or YOU for that matter, is going to change anything that happened. It’s done with. Get the fuck over it.
Flaming is lame. I wonder if any of those people bothered to ask her WHY she chose that way over another. Not everyone is rich enough to pay 100 bucks to euthenize a 5 dollar hamster…
To CodedWaltz, flaming is not the same as negative feedback. Flaming is a mindless attack. In this case, what she did was wrong by most of society, and she deserved negative feedback. Abuse animals, and children are next, the one thing in common to serial killers is that they started with cruelty to animals. It would have been easier on the damned hamster to just bury it alive than to heave it on the ground and break its bones.
Honestly, if my hampster was suffering I would rather let it die than allow it to continue to suffer a slow and painful death. It’s just that I wouldn’t exactly kill my hampster that way. It would have to be a way so that the hampster died immediately, not after a few tries. I don’t blame the person for killing their hampster. But for other people to go and flame her? I don’t believe it’s right. We all have our own mistakes, and often times I think that before we tell someone else to fix something, we have to correct ourselves first.
I don’t know what to say about her having to shut down after that. I don’t even remember reading about the darned thing. Maybe, I had missed it when you posted/linked it. But regardless of that it’s not like I would’ve cared enough to go over there anyway to comment about it. I try to (as much as I can) stay clear of that kind of topping. Because killing is wrong no matter how it’s done or why. And I agree with those who feel strongly that there’s no acceptable excuse for killing an animal like that, especially if that decision to kill that animal was only done to money.
*topic* lol
GAH! I meant… *to save money* I’m guessing I need some sleep here. lol
dan are you really that surprised? the post was pretty shocking to read…
people are odd
and nothing they do surprises me anymore.
when reading the hampster post, i didnt think there was anything particularly disturbing; she wanted to put the hampster out of its misery asap, and thought that she had a solution. is it her fault that it didnt work the first time? certainly not.
maybe the poor woman was traumatized by the event, and posted in what is essentially a diary to her. is it not normal to talk about something like that in your own space?
i dunno, people who flame make me angry…
The hamster may have only costed her 5 bucks, but it’s a living, breathing thing! How can you put a price on that? The animal is looked down on because there are so many of them and they are cheap to buy. Back in the day, when people owned slaves, they weren’t too pricey either…did that make them worth less? You can say “but slaves were humans not animals”, well back then they weren’t look at as “humans”. Still today some people look down on them for their color. Then others( i’d like to say alot… but there is alot of rasicm still today, so i’ll go with “some”), well some say it’s wrong and despite the differences they are living, breathing, feeling, souls and they deserve to be treated as such. Same with severly handicapped people, some question if there is any feeling or thinking inside them. Point is, SOME people feel this exact way about animals. Some people demand that animals, despite their differences they are still living, breathing, FEELING souls and be treated as such.
It’s interesting though, when people get mad and say the people who took the hamster thing seriously, need to get over it. That because they took a stance against animal cruelty, something they strongly believed in, that they need to grow up…. I can’t quite piece it together how uncompassionate some can be, though it’s true that everyone thinks and feels differently. But don’t be a hypocrite about it, don’t state something then ridcule other people for thinking and feeling differently than YOU.
P.s. You don’t mousetrap your PET. This was her pet that she “loved”. If she loved it you would think she would show just a little bit more compassion.
Talk about flaming, everyone is flaming here about something! O_O
Like waving a red flag to a bull.
Sorry but the subject matter was just asking for it. I didn’t go there i have only just read what has happened but i’d say it was also the way it was written that may have caused upset.
Flamers make the person who make such an entry look not bad at all. They become no better than the person that made the mal post. It’s hypocritical. Good job, Dan. I love the idea. I like how they refraimed from commenting in this entry especially.
Note Dan: My last comment wasn’t towards you.
I am disappointed as well, but not surprised. What am I surprised about is the fact that I haven’t been flamed many times before now! A lot of people seem to get their kicks from condemning others.
> Was this over the hamster? How insensitive and stupid can some people be. Attack this person, instead of the labs that experiment painfully on small furry’s? STUPID, as stated.
Peace except for the flamers, and maybe they really are…..
I just want to say, i read through the comments left on her page and not everyone who commented her “flammed”, there were a few. Some just expressed their thoughts and feelings on her killing the animal that way, yes it was negative but not “flamming”. Negative feedback for negative actions, what else do you expect?
It was obviously a sensitive topic and people feel strongly. People who feel strongly express themselves, just like everyone who is posting, whether it’s yelling at her for killing her hamster in a inhumane way, or yelling at the “flammers” who yelled at her. It’s just one big cycle of negativity.
Dan go post something POSITIVE! Bring everyone back in the Cafe spirit.
Gosh, i was commenting people (positive comments) and i seen some negative ones. People who complained about the “flammers” here are flamming at others on their sites too!
How can people be such hypocrites???
I’m telling ya Dan, we need a new positive thread here.
Kind of a strange situation. I don’t think I’d have linked her in the first place, given the likelihood of what eventually happened.
I once killed a rat in similar fashion (please nobody come and flame me over admitting this), but only after being advised by the Humane Society that it was the best way to deal with the situation. The rat was suffering, it could have been rabid, it had invaded my front yard. So I used a shovel to put it out of its misery and to protect other animals from possible contagion.
There was probably a better way to kill the hamster (take it to a vet or a Humane Society and ask for it to be euthanized), but I don’t think it’s proper to flame a person over behavior you disapprove of.
Personally, I hate being flamed. I’ve been fortunate that I endure only a very occasional flame, which is easily deletable. Not sure how I’d react if I received a whole bunch of flames. Best course probably would be to delete the entire post — comments and all — and start over the next day with a more tasteful subject, in hopes that future flames would be as infrequent as they are at my place. Yeah, something like that.
Well, you made her look like a heartless person, considering what you asked about it, and considering that most of your readers are conservative, I imagine she got flamed for being pro-choice yet feeling bad over killing a hamster.
Thick skin….peopel are cruel.
I enjoy how I advocate genocide, misbehavior on a grand scale, and heresy, and the people fuckin’ love me.
I rock so hard I break stuff nightly.
You would think that someone who could say whatever they wanted about the incident here on your site would have enough integrity and decency not to go to that person’s site and harass her as well. It’s truly unfortunate.
D:. Not good.
You’re right. I mean, everyone has their own way of dealing with their own situations. We all have different comments that’s what makes this a very enjoyable experience.
I’m sorry for your friend and that she had to go through that. Encourage her to start writing again. And that no one should be able to take that from her. Posting is a beautiful way of expression. =)No one has the right to make her feel otherwise.
That’s a shame. I hope she sets up another Xanga and comes back. That was really awful of peopel to flame her. If someone says something I don’t like or agree with I may respond to their comment here but I certainly wouldn’t sink their site in flames. Unfortunately that is what happens when people talk about things that hit a nerve. Some people can’t take it. Feel better.
Don’t just block the flamer . . . go to their house and eat their hamster.
no we are disappointed in you Dan; talking about killing hampsters and babies………..WTF???
block me then because people should not put up links goin to site that talk about babies on spikes.
Go ahead and blobk me because I dont agree with you about killing hampsters and putting babieson spikes; i dont agree that you should smash a hampster into the pavement. i dont agree you should put babies on spikes. Whats with you?? AGAIN I ASK “WTF”??????
It is sad that people felt the need to go there and flame her. Although some of the “flames” seemed that they were from her own long-time readers (according to what they said in their comment). It made me most sad that she thought it was funny that her son laughed at how she killed the hamster..which wasn’t something you included in YOUR post.
I totally agree with adriene‘s entire response on this post. Why would you post that and expect to receive positive response? She surely couldn’t have thought that everyone was going to find that as funny as her and her son did. If she didn’t want negative response, then she shouldn’t have a blog anyway.
I don’t know…the whole thing makes me think of stories you hear about serial killers’ early days, when they start with thinking it’s funny to torture animals because they think they “don’t have souls” either. And then, all the sudden, they’ve convinced themselves it’s ok to kill humans too.
And while she has declared that a hamster doesn’t have a soul (which I don’t know how anyone can honestly think they know what does and doesn’t), it did have a life and did have feeling. If you had pinched it, it would have squeaked. When she slammed it against the concrete, he squeaked. She could have taken the route of the least pain, but she didn’t. As I said before, I honestly think that had she gone with the shovel, none of this would be happening.
It seems to me that she acted a little bit too quickly. I can see her getting upset over strange people coming to her site and scolding her, but come today it would have been yesterday’s news and people would have something new to talk about. All she had to do was suck it up for the remainder of the day or make the entry private. If a week or two later she was STILL getting flames, then I could understand her deleting her whole xanga.
At the same time though, it was bold of her to post that story and expect to NOT get hateful comments. Man…she took her kid’s beloved pet and killed it…it’s an image in your mind that looks a bit more harsh than flushing a fish…she described details of how she slammed it into the ground…if she had done that to another animal, such as a cat or dog, she’d probably be arrested for that because of the cruelty level.
Its kinda dumb for people to do that.
Hope she gets a ne wone though
xX-Nicole-Xx
=[ oh no. we’ve failed you, Dan.
When I say something profound on your site – people who tend to agree with me sometimes post on my xanga. When I say something outrageous on your site, people who tend to disagree with me sometimes post on my xanga. When I read something brilliant someone has written on your site, I tend to visit their site and say, “WOW!” When I read something ignorant someone has written on your site, I tend to visit their site and say, “Whoa!” It’s called the ‘web’ we’re all interlinked here. You have no assumption of privacy in a public forum. That being said, however – I’m a sucker for ground rules, and you’s just set some:
1. I think your idea of blocking assholes from your site if they flame someone else is just brilliant.
2. Tell these people to flame my site if they need to vent. My comrades and I will enjoy the distraction.
Press on, man.
Are you consistent, Daniel? You pretend to be all compassionate then you write about stamping a hamster to death and title it, “we all have to kill a hamster at one time” No Dan, “we” don’t. Tell some little kid whose favorite pet is deathly ill to throw same pet against some concrete. Or some flakey hamster lover. Yes I call them “flakey” because I could care less about small animals. I eat them.
Why is a cow or a pig or a chicken any less sympathetic than a stupid assed hamster or gerbil? It’s just another absurdity of this messed up society’s thinking.
Oh noes, big daddy is dissapointed tonight!
what bitches. they should get sued.
It’s not cool that people railed her site. I understand that you want comments here, but I honestly don’t care that you are disappointed.
Well, Xanga must be a little overwhelming for your friend.
there are always idiots that spoil all the fun… so sad.
some people also take this crap way too seriously.
Yeah and over some stupid hamster too. Waaaah poor hamster, I can’t believe it ohhhhh nooo waaaaah. lol
Don’t Hurt a Hamster….YAY ABORTION?
Dichotomy there?
hmmm
People are too judgmental sometimes. They cast a lot of stones and live in glass houses.
im so soory to hear that happened. flaming her never ever came to my mind. killing a pet is hard enough to do without having people flame you over it. i hope she didnt take any of their comments seriously. she has my sympathy.
Wow..hm. I really don’t so much blame people for being angry, it was heartless in a way.
And to the person above who said the person should’ve been a big girl and known words can’t hurt her, that’s a load of crap. Words hurt the most.
I have to agree with adriene and your_naughty_vixen. I personally don’t know what flaming is…but I get the idea. I thought she was cruel and irresponsible, especially doing something like that, then laughing about it. Did she really expect pity? Apparently, she thought the whole episode was so funny that she posted it…again…compulsive and thoughtless.
If she got flamed for that stupidity…I’m kinda of the opinion that it was well deserved. If she shut down as a result, she only proved herself more stupid…and xanga is probably well rid of her. As to the comment about the hamster would have been dead anyways…please. I understand she came back and attempted to justify her behavior by acting like she couldn’t really understand why people were upset. I know better. She understood full well, which is why the hypocrite shut down. Even if the animal was going to die anyways, what she did to it to speed up the process was uncalled for and inhumane. If she caught hell for it because she is too brain dead to recognize…maybe that wakeup call was well overdue. Peace.
Hey people, it’s spelled H-A-M-S-T-E-R. Just wanted to note that, cause I was going a little nuts.
That’s her choice to shut down her site. She chose to post about her cruelty. Frankly, I think she should be glad nobody reported her to the SPCA.
I wouldn’t have shut down my xanga, I would have just blocked the user…and if they got around it;) I know a few things to stop a flamer>.>
i find it funny that the exact same people that flamed her on your site for doing that are now expressing sympathy over the situation…
I think what she did was wrong, that defiantely wasn’t the way to handle it….but I never even thought of going over to flame her…
That was mean.
~Caroline~
You have every right to be.
Those jerks.
[ariana]
I’ve been flamed before too. I just deleted the comments. Also remember that the comment option can be removed
I didn’t flame the person in question (or anyone for that matter), but I think it was a bit much for her to have completely left xanga over that. Does she really think the flaming would have gone on and on? Why didn’t she delete the comments and/or remove the comment option for a while? What was the topic that led people to get so heatedup? How did she express herself? I’m in the dark on this one so feel free to fill me in
Sometimes you take great liberties; and there are those who adore animals, hamsters, cats, dogs … whatever .. and to treat a helpless creature like that, was uncalled for .. and people who do, make me angry .. and yes, I did leave a nasty reply .. which. by the way, I rarely do ..but her explanation was lame .. and she did something cruel. I don’t care if it was a hamster; it is still a small helpless animal, who didn’t deserve to depart this earth in a manner which was .. inhumane.
I blame you for linking to someone like that; and knowing full well what the reaction might be; and I hold her responsible for behavior which was horrid.
Both of you should be ashamed of the entire episode.
Don’t beat yourself up over it. It’s not your responsibility to make sure no one’s feelings get hurt. It’s the internet. It happens.
There’s a difference between severely disapproving or disagreeing with someone else and “flaming” them (which I think of as “DIE DIE DIE #@$(@#$*(@)*#$(@#*$” or the equivalent). If I had actually bothered to go to that person’s site, I may have written something harsh that actually was a logical argument. I don’t think that would make me a “flamer.” What I’m trying to say is, don’t block out people just because they don’t like what someone else wrote. Only block out people who are being really, really over-the-top offensive.
I am not going to lie. I just read that post and what she did was horrible. At least, take the hampster to the vet or LOOK UP how you can exterminate a small animal like that with as little pain as possible. Yes, they do have tips for that, even on the internet. Throwing it on concrete is inhumane and cruel. I wouldn’t say I’m glad she shut down her site but I am glad she got some sense knocked into her. I don’t have any sympathy for a person who doesn’t even think before they do something like that.
Plus, shouldn’t you be dissapointed in yourself for posting such a disgusting entry where tons of people can read it? I mean, really, there is such a thing as freedom of speech but when I read that entry I didn’t know what you were going to put in it. And a lot of people have more sympathy for animals to where is really does depress them to read about abuse to that extent. If you’re going to buy a pet, take CARE of it.
why the crap cant anyone spell hamster right?! there’s no flippin’ P in it!
Flaming - hmmm. I have to go look that word up.
Yes, that is wrong.
I’m not pointing fingers, Dan, but after seeing what some of the people say here, are you really so surprised? What did you expect people to do?
Dan everybodys opion is inportant, negative or positive. You need to go to your friends site and encourage to write more. We all learn (or should) from our own experiences. Dan as one of your writters said the other day opions are like as_____s we all have one and most stink. I enjoy your comments
It’s not your fault, Dan. People are assholes sometimes.
-KrIsTiN-
Hmph. Absolutely despicable behavior. I would have to agree with your friend who had to shut down her site, though. Despite what Twist2daRav3n said, *animals do NOT have souls.* The soul is what sets humans apart from animals, that’s what the Bible was talking about when God said we were created in His image. I would find it emotionally difficult to do that to a hamster, but that is an emotional limitation. If she was able to stomach that, more power to her because of her emotional fortitude.
But yeah, those children that flamed her are a bunch of fools.
And if anyone wants to read this and come to my site and flame me, go right ahead. I love having lists of stupid people so that I can know who to avoid.
That’s so not cool. I hate people like that, and there are so many.
well they just jerks…im sorry it happened…i know people who like that…i just hate them nothin better to do then mess wit sumone they dont know
I’m just now catching up and did not flame her either, but what did she expect by posting that? What did you expect by qouting and linking her to that? I wouldn’t have flamed her, but I do believe that her site should have been forwarded to someone that works in animal cruelty. That was a shitty thing to do. And then to flaunt it on the internet? That’s disturbing. And to top it all off, she doesn’t seem sure that the animal was even dead when she buried it. To go with a more recent post of yours, what do you think people’s reactions would be if I went out and had an abortion and told all about it? Or if a soilder got an account and started telling about all the men, women, and children he had killed? Or if Sally Struthers (sp?) got an account and talked about a child she had watched starve while she gobbed down Krispy Kremes? There would be absolute outrage and flames galore. I’d suspect that Xanga would have deleted her account for her if she didn’t. She posted it publicly and she was subjected to the feedback. Wah.
That was two BIG lapses in judgement on your friend’s part and one on yours. I don’t see that as a reason to be disappointed in anyone but yourself and your “friend”. Should you ever become ill, I sincerely hope that you’ll let her whack you over the head a few times with a brick before she buries you alive. I wonder if she’ll do the same if her son ever turns up with chicken pox, I wonder if she’ll do the same to him…after all, he’s contagious! And that, you know, makes it okay and all.
The lessons to be learned here: 1.) If you have a sick animal that needs to be put to sleep? Take it to the vet and have it put to sleep. It’s the only humane thing to do. In the hamster’s case, she probably could have fed thing an over-the-counter drug and had it pass away peacefully in it’s sleep. 2.) If you’re worried about the cost of a humane death for this animal that you claim to love so much and have to smash it’s skull in? DO NOT share it with the entire world. Some of us out here truly love our animals and have hearts. 3.) If you link to the afore mentioned person, people WILL visit that person’s site and I don’t know a single animal lover that wouldn’t have told her she’s sicker than that poor hamster ever was.
I too agree it is a shame that people have to be so rude when they disagree with another person.
Disagree all you want, but no need to get abusive over it. It is not like it will bring the rodent back to life.