October 16, 2006
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Banning Child Molestors
A city has banned child molesters from their city. Bayou Vista has banned anyone “who is a registered sex offender or has had a sex crime adjudicated” from their city.
What they did was ban sex offenders from being within a mile of where children congregate. In Bayou Vista, that would include the whole city. Here is the link: http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=58ba58aad924c8e3
It is the first city to actually ban child molesters. The largest area that child molesters have been banned from before is a half mile from where children congregate. Those bans have passed the courts. But banning them from a whole city would be a first.
Is it realistic to ban child molesters from a whole city?
Comments (150)
no not really
no.. where are they going to go? just fill up another city to be kicked out of there too?
Probably not….but what a neat idea!
no – not realistic, but I don’t know what we should do with them….
I don’t think that will hold up in court, but who knows.
People want to feel their children are safe. The problem is, the people you have to fear are not the “registered” offenders, but those who have no public record and are family members, or live next door. The majority have never been caught.
i think its great.
I think it’s pretty unrealistic to eradicate a city of criminals. Isn’t that stretching a little too far for utopia? If they’ve done their time in prison or another facility, they deserve to go back into society
I think it’s a good idea, but like BelinaRising said, not everyone gets caught. There are probably a lot more offenders out there than we would like to know about. The key to safety is educating people about reporting creeps like these.
No its the ones that have not been caught that are the problem.
Not unless the city is very small. If we start banning child molester from entire cities, then instead of having them spread out, we’re going to have a lot in small areas. I hate to argue in defense of child molesters, but the way the laws are set, it’s hard for a lot of them to find a place to live/work. Parks, schools, daycares, are everywhere. So no, I don’t agree with banning them from entire cities. I am for sterilizing them though.
yep
i don’t think it’s realistic….not such a bad idea, but not realistic.
I don’t think that’s constitutional. It’s not a reasonable restriction, and I think it infringes on one’s right to travel.
Poor, poor child molestors. Will no one defend their excessive love for children?
No way, I think it’s awesome. They should have to live in a moble home in the desert or something. Or send them to a colony on mars for all I care.
Someone mentioned it being unconstitutional . . . they violated the constitutional rights of the child they molested, so they’re getting it easy anyway. In this country I don’t think the punishment will ever fit the crime for what these guys do, so I say bring it on.
Aren’t they thereby also banning Catholic priests?
I can understand how they feel however, the days are growing darker and darker as the time of the Lord nears. They won’t be able to keep all of the dangers away from their city and may actually be lulled into a false sense of security. Instead of banning the child molesters it would have been a better idea to reach out and minister to them, to love them with wisdom ….
Hmm… I don’t think this is the solution. I don’t think it will really work, either. It will hinder some people who have really changed from getting a second chance, too. But at least people are trying.
it’s realistic, depending on the size of the city.
I don’t know. I see this as a slippery slope. We start off banning sexual criminals then murderers and burglars. Then republicans decide homosexuality is illegal and then gay people aren’t allowed within 1 mile of children. Where will it end?
I feel weird defending child molesters.. but anyway.
ryc: I’m not sure what’s better… having a large snowfall or lots of rain.. I almost think snow. It’s a pain to drive in but it’s nice to look at
Umm… not really realistic. But if it’s a small town with a lot of kids, I can see them being worried that they’re always gonna be right next door.
Well, it’s a nice idea…& in a perfect world it might work. But this will forever go on. Decreasing the number of incidents though is always a good idea. Remember when AIDS was first becoming more known & certain people thought that the AIDS patients should go live on an island (I am not agreeing with that, just using as an example)—it seems that that idea is dancing around this new law to limit them from living in the city. Although it’s a little backwards, lock down the kids in the city to keep them safe, keep out the “chester molesters” instead of putting them on an island. We’ll see how it goes?!
I understand the thought process behind it, however this is an issue for the courts & judicial system to handle. If they are not safe to be on our streets, we cannot keep them out of certain cities… we must keep them in JAIL.
Not really. They’re just banning the ones they know about.
Yes! Do it! Child molesters shouldn’t even be allowed around people in general. They should be skinned alive.
besides being registered how is that enforcible?…
ryc: unless it’s cold rain. Warm enough to not be snow, but still pretty damn cold.
It sounds like a good idea, except impossible to enforce.
Apart from it not being realistic, I really hate this idea in general. I don’t mean to defend child molesters any more than they need to be, but this is just ridiculous. Precautionary measures I can understand but total bans from the city? Looks like a lot of stupid to me.
Once again,there is nowhere safe.There are children in the rural areas and small towns.Maybe they should just keep the molesters in jail.
If you can ban convicted child molesters (who’ve served their sentence) from anywhere, I don’t see why you can’t just lock them up and throw away the key in the first place.
Such things like this scare me. Where do we draw the line? First we ban pedophiles from entire cities. Then we ban all those with a felony on their record from entire cities. What’s next? To “clean up” a city ban everyone with a criminal record whether it’s a felony or a misdemeanor? I am a survivor of incest and rape. I think that sexual assult of any nature is the worst of all crimes besides cold blooded murder. No it’s not going to do any good do ban child molestors from an entire city. What about the child molestors that are still in a city that just haven’t done anything to get caught yet? Banning them like lepers from a city will accomplish nothing. Did you know that the DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders number Four) states that pedophelia is a mental disorder. So banning such people like lepers, much like society did 50-100 years ago with other mental illnesses, will accomplish absolutely nothing. Reabilitation of sexual offenders has not shown very much progress in some of the prisons that have such resources. Can a sex offender of any kind be reabilitated? I don’t know, but I think trying to reabilitate them and treating their sickness (if they are wanting to be treated) is better than treating them like lepers.
QUOTE:Aren’t they thereby also banning Catholic priests? Posted 10/16/2006 at 1:26 PM by AristotleForDummies END QUOTE
That is really in bad taste. Why must you judge all based on the actions of some?
I don’t think it’s realistic,
though perhaps idealistic
no. how the hell are they supposed to know? anybody can turn into a child molester. anything can happen. that’s not realistic.
I think its just their luck, being such a small city.
The main problem I see is if molesters get banned from too many places. They do have some reasonable right to live somewhere, so if it becomes too difficult, the courts will stop allowing these restrictions. Personally, I care very little about what rights are preserved for convicted molesters, but some people care a lot.
But otherwise…
if the courts allow 1/2 mile, 1 mile shouldn’t be much of an issue. the goal would be to keep known sex offenders away. (Bringing up “what about the unknown perps?” just shows people’s inability to understand a question.) Enforcement isn’t too much of a problem – setting up a computer to cross-reference databases is one option. The law doesn’t need to be 100% enforced to be effective. The main weakness would be perps that adopted false identities, but that will get harder as ID methods get more sophisticated. Hopefully, they’d rather live somewhere else than risk that.
I think it will just cause the sex offenders to give false addresses. If the city is home to them then some of them will find a way to live there wether it is legal or not. I would rather have them registered and know where they are.
No it’s not. And that will get challenged in court and overturned. Won’t they bitch then?
They could go back to jail, where they belong.
Molesting a child is as bad as murdering a child. Perhaps even worse, because at least a murder victim doesn’t have to LIVE with what was done to them.
Victims don’t get a second chance to be children who weren’t molested, so why should the perverts get a second chance to be good people when they chose not to be?
Well of course!
We can’t expect parents to look after their own children now can we!
They are looking after their children. That is why they are trying to keep known perverts away from them. Too bad so many of you would rather let kids get molested.
Utopia, but not realistic.
Once again I have to agree with my_daily_diatribe. Well said.
In the name of “tolerance” and “freedom” no less… *rolleyes*
Do victims of molestation ever have “freedom” from the pain of what was done to them? Do they ever learn to “tolerate” the abuse they had to endure?
Or is that what you sickos WANT?
I think it’s awesome!!!!!! They should all live on a desertted island somewere!!!
Let’s banish them all to some island….or send them to space with no food or water…
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no….and i dont even know how they would be able to keep them out even if they DID ban them
To respond the the last 4 posts or so…
Child molesters: No
Plus size models: they’re plus size for the normal size of models.
Skinny Models: No one is that skinny unless they have an eating disorder
Shorter or Taller: 5inches taller cuz Im only 4’11 and Im done growing…Id like to be able to reach things.
That is all
We could just castrate them all as a condition of their release…
But we better cut their fingers off while we’re at it.
On second thought, just killing them is probably the more humane option.
maybe they should create a new state where all of those sick fucks can go and live. they can just all be by themselves. i think it’s a awesome idea. i hope they ban them from my city soon!!!!
But I forgot, in our politically-correct world of ridiculous bs, child molesters probably have a right to fondle little kids. Just ask the liberals…
There are always going to be more than those who were “just registered.” What about the undetected pervs? Ha! I can’t believe i said that. Well it really isnt realistic, but hey, I’m for it so long as it actually prevents the molestations. If it doesn’t decrease the rate, then why bother even trying?
perhaps we should ban them from the earth.
stick them on the next shuttle and leave them….haha.
sorry, one more thing to add: Lady Valkyrie said that we shouldn’t ban child molesters from cities because they are the victims of mental disorders and banishing them would be akin to alienating lepers.
lepers never violated anyone’s rights.
booyah.
I don’t think so.
No, because the ones we should be afraid of are the ones who have never been caught or the ones who have never done that before.
Eh, I feel sorry for them. They’re people too and they can’t help they feel that way. As far as banning the from a city? I can understand it, would I want one near my kid? No.
But there isn’t much you can do about it. Maybe give them their own city, haha.
um, no. but then again, when has the government ever been realistic?
it’s a nice idea to keep kids safe, but its not going to work.
Honestly I really wish they would never let them out of jail in the first place and let the guys in there deal with them.
It is not realistic because they just go on to the next city and so on. us parents just have to keep our kids on lockdown and have a skeptic’s eye with anyone involved in and around our kids.
Fuck realistic, I’d ban them from my town. They can go live in the ocean.
No, not at all.
good in theory.. but impossible to put into complete effect…
No, it’s not realistic. They’re also overlooking the fact that some of these registered “child molesters” were 18-year old kids that had sex with their 16-year old girlfriends.. and the girlfriend’s parents freaked out and brought them to court. So no, it doesn’t make a whollatta sense.
Good luck getting that one through the judiciary. The primary problem with this is that a sex offender can be the twisted rapist everyone envisions. Or a high school kid who decided to streak as his senior prank.
“I think it’s pretty unrealistic to eradicate a city of criminals. Isn’t that stretching a little too far for utopia? If they’ve done their time in prison or another facility, they deserve to go back into society” -steph843
Well said!
It is totally unrealistic- There always has been and always will be criminals. For everyone you ban- there are many more what take their place…
It is human nature- sadly.
I dunno. It gets the job done though!
No, not good enough. They should all die!
Personally, I feel like if flyers need to be distributed (they are where I live) when a conviceted/released sex offender moves in to the neighborhood, then they should not be allowed out of prision in the first place. If they are still such a danger to society then WHY are they walking free? Don’t ban them from cities, ban them from their freedom that they gave up a right to have when they committed a crime!
You can ban them from living and working in the area, but I really don’t think a child molester is going to be concerned about not entering a banned area. They go to where the victims are and a ban is not going to stop them.
Sounds good, just ship them all off to some deserted island together…. not too realistic I’d say……. Like LadyLi… says it would only keep out the Known Molestors….. you never know who’s lurking right down the street.
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Haha…we should have special colonies for these people where they’re segregated by gender…that way we keep them out of our society, and they don’t have any children in their colonies.
I’m a genius.
I agree. This feels like a slippery slope.
-Guru on the Hill
Good question. I know I wish I could sleep knowing that there were no known child molestors in my city. But I doubt this will work anywhere else.
Before we bought our home we searched our county’s web site to see where the closest child molestor lived. Every parent should do this. (We’re not even parents yet but we will be while living in this new home)
I know, just clear out a state…send them there along with other most likely to commit crimes again criminals that they’ve released.
I think it is wonderful, yet there are more child molestors hurting poor children every day that have not been caught yet.
They should try to get as many away from children as possible.
Kill em all!
i like that idea
no, I don’t think that is realistic.
No. Just cause they have a ‘thing’ for children, even if illegal, does not mean they should be kicked out of a city.
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sorry, one more thing to add: Lady Valkyrie said that we shouldn’t ban child molesters from cities because they are the victims of mental disorders and banishing them would be akin to alienating lepers.
lepers never violated anyone’s rights.
booyah.
Posted 10/16/2006 at 2:29 PM by the__apathy
I couldn’t agree more. I don’t care if you are a “victim of mental disorder.” You touch my son/daughter in an inappropriate way….you’ll hope the law gets to you before I do!
realistic? no. it’s a good idea it’s just not possible. kids are everywhere.
Eh.
It’d be hard to enforce… but it’s a step in the right direction. I agree with whoever above said that they should be sterilized.
I don’t think the punishments for child molesters are severe enough. As someone who was molested as a child by someone who was never punished for it…. I think they’re getting off easy.
its a good thing, but how are they going to keep them away?
THis is sort of like what the anceintes did with lepers. Put them in thier own areas (prisons or valleys, or caves). It worked then, i guess. I dont plan to be a sex offender so who knows.
But not all offenders as smany have aid before, some 17 year old guy has sex with a 17 year old girl, and the guy is punished? Where is all the equality bull crap then? Oh well. Maybe molesters yes, but offender is so fluid. The girl might have liked sex at teh time but regretted it after they broke up. Also good fun streaking is a sex offense now?! Its not such a big deal, hoenstly.
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I would support it, but I doubt it would go over.
No.
This is a Supreme Court case waiting to happen.
No because they are going to somewhere else.
I doubt that it will stand up in court. Banning them doesn’t solve the problem. Not in my backyard still puts the problem in someone’s backyard.
No, and it’s probably illegal if anyone wants to test the law in court.
Unrealistic. Most child molesters are never caught, told on, or prosecuted in any way.
And what’s the point of sterilizing them? They can still touch and hurt children, sterilized or not.
But I forgot, in our politically-correct world of ridiculous bs, child molesters probably have a right to fondle little kids. Just ask the liberals…
Posted 10/16/2006 at 2:26 PM by Building_A_Mystery
Oh yes…please, please let me go back to being 9 years old so I can be raped again. That’s exactly what I, as a liberal, want to happen. Oh GOODY!
I’m all for freedom of opinion, but some opinions are so incredibly stupid.
This makes me think of another issue.
What is the statistical occurence of new offenses in child molesters?
Are most child molesters repeat offenders?
If they are, then what do we do?
If they arent, then are these laws just smoke and mirrors so politicians can sey they”protect children”?
A lot of the headline making legislation seems like distrations. Come causes, you HAVE to support, or else you support the evildoers.
Do you think these laws are effective?
Sounds like a nice idea, but things don’t always work out how they’re planned, ya know.
no and plus where would all those child molestors go?
Yes
is it just child molesters
or all sex offenders, like rapists
HA! nie one, at least they are going to try. I hope it passes and I hope it stays.
YES!!! It’s worth a try!
I have three children. I would vote for it today if I could. What parent wouldn’t? What decent person wouldn’t want to prevent something horrible happening to a child.
This weekend a grown woman sobbed in my arms. She is always putting herself down…more so than an average person would. I was concerned and we were talking about it. This is what opened the door for her painful secret. She’d been raped at age 7. She is still not over it.
Rapist do not have my sympathies … at all!
realistic? no. but if the city is small enough that the ban encompasses all of it, maybe it will work? i know that here we’re made aware of whenever a sex offender moves into the neighborhood – which is both reassuring and disturbing at the same time; we’ve gotten quite a few notices! Epecially when you consider the fact that I live in a highly mobile neighborhood – near a college campus – people move every 9 months or so. So, if you missed the notice … But, I digress. No, i don’t think that this is a realistic move that can be accomplished everywhere, after all – where will they go? But hey, if NYC can try with the homeless, more power to Bayou Vista for doing it with a group that I’m sure most of us would even chose the homeless over as neighbors.
Not really…
no….who would admit to currently being a pedophile?
Besides, where would they live if every city followed through with that? I think it’s dumb….a place to live is a place to live.
QUOTE: sorry, one more thing to add: Lady Valkyrie said that we shouldn’t ban child molesters from cities because they are the victims of mental disorders and banishing them would be akin to alienating lepers. lepers never violated anyone’s rights. booyah. END QUOTE
Hey Shithead… I never once said said that pedophiles were victoms of any fucking thing you sick bastard! I would NEVER, EVER excuse the actions of any sex offender. I am a survivor of incest and of rape. With the help of PervertedJustice.com I had several self proclaimed pedophiles who were very vocal about their pedophelia shut down here at Xanga. Check out some of my past entries on my Xanga for references! Do not EVER think for one minute that I condone the actions of any sex offender! You are the fucking sick one if you think I do!
I was merely making reference to the DSM-IV stating that pedophilia is a mental disorder to make way for more discussion on how better to deal with pedophiles instead of alienating them. HOWEVER… I will be the first one to state that just because one has a mental illness it does NOT excuse one’s bad behavior! I myself am diagnosed with several mental illnesses, Borderline Personality Disorder, Bipolar Disorder, and PMDD (Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder). My 15 year old son is diagnosed with ADHD and Bipolar Disorder. My 10 year old son is being treated for an unspecified mood disorder (which more than likely is Bipolar Disorder but because he’s so young they will not label him as such yet). We all seek therapy, psychiatric care and take medications. And I am the one who has instilled into my own children that sometimes we do the things we do because the mental illnesses get the better of us, but the mental illnesses is not who we are, therefore at some point we do indeed can gain control over our thoughts, actions, and speech if we are willing to work at it.
Now you dipshit, don’t you ever accuse me of basically condoning the actions of a pedophile because they are so called “victoms.” I never stated such a thing!
QUOTE: sorry, one more thing to add: Lady Valkyrie said that we shouldn’t ban child molesters from cities because they are the victims of mental disorders and banishing them would be akin to alienating lepers. lepers never violated anyone’s rights. booyah. Posted 10/16/2006 at 2:29 PM by the__apathy I couldn’t agree more. I don’t care if you are a “victim of mental disorder.” You touch my son/daughter in an inappropriate way….you’ll hope the law gets to you before I do! Posted 10/16/2006 at 3:22 PM by distler END QUOTE
Please refer to my reply to distler, bitch!
ehhh kinda hard to say. maybe if they were convicted of molestation in the past 3 years. if they were convicted in the past 3 years, they’d get to come back after being clean for like, 3 more years.
They should banish all child molestors to an island and say “Any children who wish to get molested may come.” When no children come, they’ll get the point.
How about a whole country. We are too soft.
not really.
Its a nice idea.
[ariana]
it might not be realistic but I fully support it
Here’s the problem with this: all sex offenders are not child molesters. They need to be more specific.
they band normal religions in Utal and ak-1947s in 45 states, and they quarinteen people in WV??? why not sickos???
Personally, I think that child molesters should be put in prison forever–or else used as laboratory animals instead of rats or monkeys.
Another option would be to put them all on an island in the middle of nowhere, so they had no one to molest but each other. And they should all be sterilized before being sent there, so that there was no chance of an innocent child being born into such a place.
Or…just send them into space. Let them have air and tubes of plankton and let them just float around out there forever.
probably not legal, but wish that it could be true…
Not really. They’ll find somewhere to hide.
I like the idea and I hope it keeps happening, frickheads
Yeah. I think all child molesters should die, anyways.
-KrIsTiN-
Well, they’re only banning convicted sex offenders, not every single molester. I think it’s a good idea, but not a perfect one. While children might be “safer” in such town, we cannot guarantee complete safety. Assuming the children are totally safe could put them in even greater danger.
Ban them all.
I say why not?
These violent deviants have far too many rights and liberties as it is.
Innocence can not be replaced.
it is not realistic to ban anyone from a city > they could still move in and it would be up to the police to enforce it which would mean violations of civil rights for all citizens while they search for those “banned” people. i know child molesters are our modern-day lepers, but that doesn’t make it right to discriminate against them. children are in more danger from persons they know, including family members (i had a ‘funny’ uncle, and i don’t mean humorous), and therefore need to learn how to protect themselves and avoid certain types of behaviors and situations, no matter who is trying to get them to do stuff.
no matter how attractive it seems prima facie, when we start allowing legal discrimination the slope becomes way too slippery for me.
I don’t think it is realistic only because the city would never be able to guarantee that there are NO child molestors there. A lot of folks are out there hurting children, but it does not mean that they are registered or, for that matter, have even come close to being caught. But if there is a legal way to keep registered offenders out of the city limits, I am all for it! Being proactive won’t prevent kids from being molested completely, but it will surely prevent SOME kids in that area from having to suffer through the act and aftermath of sexual abuse.
I don’t think so
FUCK YES! Get them the fuck out of there!! Child molesters are the only people I feel have no right to live at all. That might sound bad of me to say, but I think they should all be sent to death at once. No child deserves what those bastards did to them.
It’s a nice idea. But I don’t think it’s realistic. There are too many child molesters that aren’t on record…
realistic? no. but an excellent idea? yes.
Yes – I want my children protected.
I think its great.
It’s the most realistic thing to do. Otherwise the city has to perform whatever-you-call-it to eliminate the threats to young and innocent children!
yes it really that is really good!!! They should build a special island for people like that so they can all suffer!!!!!
I also agree with ann lanche they should be used for testing!!!
realistic probably not- great idea- yes- maybe we should start with all the people busted on dateline
Sound odd coming from a father of six who grew up in a house that often included foster kids who had been molested, but if they have served their term imposed by ” a jury of their peers” then they have to be able to live somewhere. As far as I can see if they rape children they should hang on a short rope from a tall tree. That said the term “registered sex offender”in some states supposedly includes the moron who got drunk and mooned someone or got caught peeing on the side of the road.(both chargeable as indecent exposure if the cop or DA is a jerk) the issue was recently raised on a New Jersey talk show I heard. I say teach your kids well, supervise them well, and realize that any government that tries to make it’s jurisdiction a completely safe place has leaned dangerously over the line of totalitarianism.
to protect kids, you do what you gotta do.
Hay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nah. we should just line them up and shoot.
not really, there’s plenty more cities to choose from.
I hope so. I really do.
No.
Well since we’re not allowed to shoot them…
that is not being realistic…you can ban all regesteried sex offenders but think of all that have not been caught or have not committed the crime that are going to in the future…realisticly there is no way to stop crime or even prevent it trying to firghten them…that is in no way realistic
First of all, I’m not sure Bayou Vista really qualifies as a city. Secondly, I live about 15 miles from there and I’m ready to move my family with our 5 kids there!
> The notion of banning undesireables has always been with us and should always be…. But entails i.d.ing of the undesirable and the definition of this hazy word by the bearer thereof…. It will be interesting to watch the Supreme Court’s judgement ….
Yes, keep it up!