October 16, 2006
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Bumper Stickers
A lady had a bumper sticker on her car that said “I’m Tired Of All The Bush**.” She was given a ticket by a police officer because the bumper sticker was considered to be lewd. A judge threw the ticket out because the “state’s lewd decal law that formed the basis for the ticket was ruled unconstitutional in 1990.” Here is the link: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/16/sticker.suit.ap/
Do you think that lewd and profane bumper stickers should be covered under free speech?
Comments (148)
Yup!
Heheheh…
I guess… Some are pretty funny
Yes, and you probably meant “bullshit” not “bushit”<—-right?
haha, i don’t know, i saw one of those bumper stickers once. yeah, it’s a bumper sticker man. no need to get all defensive.
yes
wtf if your drving close enough to read it then dont be all put out by what it says !
Totally. Totally…
The Fruit That Ate Itself
I don’t know.
Politically I want to say yes.
plus, traffic jams wouldn’t be nearly as exciting without those good ol’ lewd and profane bumper stickers.
DON’T EVEN DENY IT.
YES!
Of course!
Fuck yeah!
Damn straight!
I put one on my locker that says,”I think. Therefore, I am dangerous.”
Lewd speech, no its not protected speech. Judges that say that it is have trouble reading English, the language of the US constitution. But a lot of judges might as well use the US constitution as toilet paper for all the respect they show it.
But political speech is specifically protected in the US constitution, that cop was way out of line.
Hell yes….I wish more people had them…something to read when I’m bored sitting in traffic….that is if I ever get my license back….
Candy
It seems that bumper stickers are like picket lines, get your point across with recklessness, or piss some people off…
The Fruit That Ate Itself
yes
she has a right to express her opinions, doesn’t she?
Yep!
She most certainly does.
Fuck censorship.
haha.
She has the right to express her opinion. Though others may not agree with it and think it “lewd” (whoever thought up that word was an idiot), it’s not their right to tell her she can’t speak her mind.
yes.it’s also freedom of expression. and people can’t be discriminated against based on their political views.
i like this one because i’m learning about this stuff (laws being unconstitutional)
it depends on the intention and the interpretation..
basically? nope
Yes, especially if they cause accidents.
Yes!!!!
Dems/liberals are so nice. NOT
I have a W Sticker on my car. Liberals/Dems (they are the same) love to key it. I keep it on my car. I will not be intimidated by jerks. So that sticker on the back window of my car has scratches all over it from those oh so “tolerate” liberals. They certainly want their Freedom of Speech but they will not tolerate anyone who does not agree with them.
yes, there was a funny bumper sticker i read “my kid beat up your honor student”
Haha, my mom doesn’t allow us to put bumper stickers on our cars because we’re so political, and she thinks people who disagree with us will crash into us. Haha. I’m tired of all the Bushit too, so I’m biased.
Yes!
Depends.
Never saw one. I feel empty inside now…
That one in particular is really offensive because it shows incredible ignorance, and contempt for the leader of this country.
yes, they are under free speech…but that may not be a good thing. If I had kids I wouldn’t want them seeing swear words on bumper stickers….so no, because it’s inappropriate for public
Absolutely. It’s ridiculous that that guy gave her a ticket.
Hmmm. welllll… on the one hand I want to say yes because I am totally against censorship. I am the type of mother who refuses to allow her children to buy censored audio CDs. I feel that if a certain CD is so bad that I don’t want my kids to listen to it then I won’t let them listen to it at all. Otherwise they will listen to what the artist intended. However, these are not musical CDs we are referring to. These are bumper sticker on vehicles where anyone and everyone can see them, including small children. If a bumper sticker with foul language on it is considered free speech, where do we draw the line? What about a buble sticker with nearly naked women on them? Are such bumper stickers free speech? Maybe. Maybe not. Some people who find such things offensive might not consider them free speech, especially those who have small children, and may be forced to look at these stickers at a stop light. But then again, Pro-Life Extremists who protest outside abortion clinics with their pictures of bloody aborted babies is considered a legal form of free speech even though some may find such pictures offensive. I personally don’t care what bumper sticker someone has on their car. In fact I find it an amusing game to find as many people I can who do naughty things on the road and yet they have a “Christian” themed bumper sticker(s) on their vehicle. My personal favorite happened just last week, when we were on our way to Harrisburg. We evidently were going too slow for this guy behind us so he passed us at a high rate of speed but slowed down long enough to flip us off! When he passed us we noticed a large Christian Fish symbol on the back of the car. We busted out laughing until out gusts hurt! We have a “Sinner On Board” sticker on our minivan. We used to have a “Give me that old Thyme Religion” with a Pentagram on it. Because of that sticker we ended up getting a Jack Chick Track in our van! LMAO!
yessiree.
of course!
It depends.
That was so vague. But it really does depend on what message is being relayed out how it’s put across.
It’s a bumper sticker. People need to calm down.
-Guru on the Hill
Nope
absolutely.
Well, if bumper stickers were to be allowed, people should be allowed to swear on the 6 o’clock news under free speech, too. I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Not in the U.S. anyway (I’ve heard “sh**” on our news… but we Canadians are lewd and profane, I guess).
it depends… in this case, prolly… unless i misunderstood it and it was a veiled death threat lol, then no that’s NOT covered. ^_^
I don’t think it should be covered under free speech, but I don’t consider that particular bumptersticker to be lewd or profane — just obscene and crude.
uh…yes
Indubitably .
It is a bumper sticker…
Of course! I love bumper stickers!! And I’ve seen some that are A LOT more lewd than that one.
YES.
I have a bumper sticker on my car that says “Countdown to 1/20/09 – Bush’s last day in Office”. Not lewd in the least, but it still puts it’s point across.
OOPS–not lewd and profane – but that one — like it or not -its not illegal…
YES
big words nuff said
xX-Nicole-Xx
ps. ok taking a wild guess, if that means “Should bumber stickers that are offincive be banned” or somethaing along those lines then yes
Sure; why not?
We are losing our sense of decency. No reason to argue.
A little history here. During the revolutionary war a soldier was flogged if caught cursing. Times have changed.
Heck yes!
duh
it depends. if it’s just words then it’s probably okay, but i don’t think nasty pictures should be allowed.
Well, yeah. I’ve seen a ton that have bitch and other like terms, betcha that cop wouldn’t have batted an eye at that one.
No. Enough is enough. Your freedom to display your ignorance of the proper use of the language is one thing among your friends. But I have a right not to be burdened by it in public. Why should any one have the right to impose offensive and obnoxious behaviour on other people?
there was a person in front of me the other day with a bumper sticker that said “My child is an honor student, but my president is an idiot” I liked it
THINK OF THE CHILDREN. I’m shocked to see all these “yes its free speech answers”. Under law profane speech in public merit fines and possible arrest for unruly behavior. Freedom of speech my ass, I’d like you guys to run outside and yell “FCUK MY PSUSY BITCH” as you run down the street. Let’s see what happens in court when you’re fighting for freedom of speech.
Some Supreme Court cases:
FCC v. Pacifica Foundation
Chaplinsky v. State of New Hampshire
Need I remind you, the Supreme Court trumps all State decisions.
Yeah. And yeah, I agree with all of the other people who said that bumper stickers are awesome for while you’re sitting in traffic. One time when my mother and I were stuck in traffic, there was a truck in front of us that had a cap on the trunk, and the window on the back of it was COVERED in bumper stickers, and I got to read them all and they were all pretty hilarious.
-KrIsTiN-
*”No it’s free speech”
Well duh.
Actually, I read it wrong again, geeze.
No.
Just because it’s free speech doesn’t mean you have to get obnoxious with it.
-Jacob
I’m sure the parents of the naive children will love explaining to their children what a BUSHSHIT is.
-Jacob
Swearing is fine by me, especially political. But if you insult races, sexs, etc, that’s not so great by me.
yep yep
duh!
Example of lewd speech “Bush is a nigger loving pervert”
Still think lewd speech is protected free speech free speech?
have a W Sticker on my car. Liberals/Dems (they are the same) love to key it. I keep it on my car. I will not be intimidated by jerks. So that sticker on the back window of my car has scratches all over it from those oh so “tolerate” liberals. They certainly want their Freedom of Speech but they will not tolerate anyone who does not agree with them
It might be you they don’t like. You are not very nice most of the time.
As much as some offend me, as much as some are stupid, unreasonable, and should be ripped right off the vehicle.. that’s the power of America.. You’re allowed to put them there, and that shouldn’t be taken away.
Yes. People are free to look like idiots.
Ya.
The majority of kids in the world who are involved in traffic often, are for the most part, LOOKING for bumper stickers on passing vehicles. So, imagine you having kids, or you may already have kids…..would you want them to go around using profanity on a rugular basis? They might not say it infront of just anybody, but when they are with they’re close friends, they won’t hesitate. Are you ok with this? I for one am not. So the answere is no.
Nope. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech unless it is dangerous to an individual or takes away the rights of another.
[ariana]
No. People on the street have no warning, no ability to censor the material from the themselves nor their children.
It must be removed.
if they are lewd and political, than yes, they are.
have you heard about these girls dan?
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
Dang. Meant to say Yes, and then the rest of my comment. I’m dumb.
[ariana]
it depends. if it’s something like the example then yes, if it’s something like a racist comment then no.
i can see a little kid in the car saying to his/her mom “Sh** happens”
a fatal car accident happens b/c the mom had a heart attack from what her little child said
Would a bumper sticker with a naked woman spreding her legs be considered lewd? Why or why not? Free speech is beign streched to mean so many things it was not supose to mean. If u read the federalist papers then its obvious it was meant as a way for the citizens to consructivly criticise the govenrment and express thier opinions, not really for such things. This is kind of like the flag burning issue. Good god, burning a flag? its a lil over dramatic.
“Well, if bumper stickers were to be allowed, people should be allowed to swear on the 6 o’clock news under free speech, too. I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Not in the U.S. anyway (I’ve heard “sh**” on our news… but we Canadians are lewd and profane, I guess).”
Naw. The news is more public and when a news anchor takes that job, a sense of responsibility/maturity must follow, I guess. It’s different than just someone putting a bumper sticker on their car. When the news anchor makes a remark about an issue, I guess then THAT’S free speech, eh?
“THINK OF THE CHILDREN. I’m shocked to see all these “yes its free speech answers”. Under law profane speech in public merit fines and possible arrest for unruly behavior. Freedom of speech my ass, I’d like you guys to run outside and yell “FCUK MY PSUSY BITCH” as you run down the street. Let’s see what happens in court when you’re fighting for freedom of speech.”
Excuse me, but children are learning horrible things whether you like it or not, and I’m betting you a small percentage of that is from bumper stickers. Most bumper stickers don’t say “fcuk my psusy bitch” (I’m guessing the spelling errors were on purpose), but have opinions and quotes and such instead.
“Swearing is fine by me, especially political. But if you insult races, sexs, etc, that’s not so great by me. “
Right.
“Example of lewd speech “Bush is a nigger loving pervert”
Still think lewd speech is protected free speech free speech?
Bushit is different that the above statement. Like I said above, this becomes a bit racist, and that’s where it crosses the line.
“i can see a little kid in the car saying to his/her mom “Sh** happens”
a fatal car accident happens b/c the mom had a heart attack from what her little child said”
….
Please give me some documented cases of this happening. It’s hard to believe, and I’m sorry but, I have a feeling this doesn’t happen very often. Read above about kids learning curses from other sources.
no
Interesting points about lewd speech versus protected speech about politics.
Free speech… versus being protected.
Protected from?
Not being attacked, but rather offended?
Protected?
By the governemnt.
The government protects our MINDS? From being offended?
That is soooooo… hazy.
I never make sense anyway.
Neither do governing bodies.
You can abuse the argument “There are plenty of otehr places kids get corrupted” b.c there are. So u have sot try to stop it at some point. Its happening from so many direcitons, the more effrot u put into trying to keep them innocent the more sucessful u will be. its like if America is physically invaded from all sides do we say well fi we fight them off the east coast what will it matter? No. We take on all directions. I would nto want my kids to read a bumper sticker that jsut said the pussy bitch thing, but Bush shit, is more clever, so i would not mind that.
Absolutely! It’s not prurient in any way, shape, or form.
yep
QUOTE:
THINK OF THE CHILDREN. I’m shocked to see all these “yes its free speech answers”. Under law profane speech in public merit fines and possible arrest for unruly behavior. Freedom of speech my ass, I’d like you guys to run outside and yell “FCUK MY PSUSY BITCH” as you run down the street. Let’s see what happens in court when you’re fighting for freedom of speech.
Some Supreme Court cases:
FCC v. Pacifica Foundation
Chaplinsky v. State of New Hampshire
Need I remind you, the Supreme Court trumps all State decisions.
Posted 10/16/2006 at 8:22 PM by hoo8myrice END QUOTE
OMG That reminds me of what happened to me on my own front porch! I happened at the last place I lived, which was out in the middle of the freakin corn fields outside of Hershey. I was having some “issues” with my landlord. I was sitting out on my porch as I made a phone call to my significant other, who is a trucker and we talk a lot on the phone. As I was telling him about the “issues” with my landlord I was using a lot of cuss words, which is no surprise considering it’s me afterall and I was mad as heck. Anyway, the next thing I know the cops are at my house and giving me a ticket for using lewd language in a public place near school age children and he pointed at a child about 10 years old on my neighbor’s porch. My neighbor’s children are all grown… it was her grandchild visiting. And it wasn’t that neighbor that called the cops. It was my landlord! So I ended up paying a fine for “disorderly conduct” and for me “threatening” my landlord. LMAO!
Normally I would say yes. However, having these on your bumpers leaves them there for little kids to see, which is not good. I like them, however, We really should do what we can not to expose kids to them.
Yes. Anything can be said so long as it does not call for the bodily or sexual harm of another (ie threats). Even if there is a law against “lewd” bumperstickers, “lewd” should be clearly defined.
Hell, yeah!!
its a shame the government has become socialist. its a shame you cant say fuck. fuck is just a word and its all fucked up.
Fuck is used alot. its the one magical word. you should be able to say the word fuck anyplace and anytime.
however its not just the word itself. any subjectmatter can replace the word; like “Frack.” its not the word but how you use it.
yes.
besides, it is often the lewd or profane ones that are the most amusing…
Yeah, I think that according to our constitution, any bumper sticker is “ok”
But there’s a difference between being acceptable and appropriate,
There are a lot of bumper stickers that I’ve seen where a little more discretion could be used
Since it’s right there for anyone to see
Basically, they can send the same message without being so vulgar
… If they wanted to
the best word in the english language is the word FUCK.
out of all the words that starts with F, fuck is the only word known as the F-word.
its the one magical word.
its the one magical word just by its sound can discribe a series of things:
pain, persure, hate, and love.
fuck comes from from German, the word frickin “frichen”.
the word fuck falls into many many areas.
as a trans verb for example.
John fucked Jane.
as a intrans verb:
jane fucks.
its meaning is not always related to sex.
fuck is sometimes used as a adjective.
like chathog is doing all the fucking work.
indirectly as frack, who the frack are you.
as part of a adverb;
i talk to fucking much.
as an adverb supporting an adjective:
chathog is fucking beautiful.
as a noun;
i dont give a fuck.
as part of a word:
abso-fucking-luitly.
or in-fucking-credable.
it can also be used as every word in the centence……
fuck the fucking fuckers.
The same reasons (whatever they are) for restricting language on broadcast television would probably be applicable here. Perhaps even more so since it is probably easier to plan to not watch a particular television program than it is to avoid a bumper sticker that pops out all of a sudden.
yeah…
A lot of what you see put on cars, pretty much tells you about the person.
I would say, “No.”, but I have to ask who decides what is lewd and profane? There must be a list somewhere.
Yes
It depends.
Did you hear about the DMV replacing that person’s plate for having: “FOAD1”
Yes.
of course. its just a flippin sticker– lighten up people
It is political speech, like it or not. I disagree with her message, but I’d like the freedom to say that Hillary is a B***# and so forth if I like, and so I’m willing to let others say what they want to. Now, I wouldn’t actually put a bumper sticker on my car saying that Hillary is the devil, a B***# or a communist, but that doesn’t mean that in my head I don’t think it.
(And as a former constituant of hers, I know that she cares about herself, and not those she claimed to represent.)
yes.
hahaaha lewd is such a british word.
Lewd but clever bumper stickers 10x > “My Child is an Honor Roll Student”
Lewd speech? No.
Political speech, yes. And I assume that sticker was meant in a political sense…
Free speech is as it says. Free speech. Leave the woman and her bumper sticker alone.
Personally, I think her bumper sticker was kind of funny and it was ridiculous that she got a ticket… whether it’s a violation of her constitutional rights or not, I just don’t know.
Its a freedom of speech
Yes!!!!!!
My mother has a anti Bush bumper sticker on her car that says,
“With a Bush and a Dick someone is bound to get screwed.” (and another that says, “Somewhere in Texas a village is missing their idiot”…which is besides the point…but still I like that one!) and she has never had any problems with the lewd one. I think ones geographical location has a lot to do with things like this…. no one would ever have a problem with lewd anti Bush bumper stickers here in NY; we all HATE him here.
Hell yes. Its on her property and its a freedom of expression.
Say…any idea where she got that nifty bumper sticker?
Depends on how lewd…. Something that shows support for Foley or shows support for things illegal is probably not so good.
No, I don’t… People cannot justify being lewd and profane… by using such language they are only proving they are uneducated in that they cannot successfully communicate their thoughts without becoming offensive.
NO. Lewd is in the eye of the beholder.
Some of the church bumperstickers I see on cars are to me absolutely morally disgusting and obscene. Does that mean they should be banned because I don’t agree with them?
Freedom of speech is far more important than whether or not someone’s opinions are different than yours.
A cop friend of mine always says “It should be legal to shoot stupid people!”
Of course not!
Only the extremists could do those kinds of things! These people have no class and I would’t waste my time clicking on the link. Thank you for providing the source though.
Yes.
Haha this is funny.
-Jessica
yes
okay.. think about the question…
is lewd speech be protected by the first amendment?
well, what kind of speech needs protection? popular speech.. the yellow ribbons and flags and stuff like that? NO popular speech does not need protection because it is popular… it is the un popular speech that needs protection. lewd bumper stickers, flag burning… the KKK. they are the ones that the first amendment was designed to protect.
no
Police sometimes try to arrest you on anything. I stood off police so far 3 times in my life(and I was right, which is why I have never been arrested^_^.) I know not to”stand them off now though, because insted of trying to arrest you now for anything, they try to shoot 0_0 you now for anything
Yes, they should. Besides, that sticker wasn’t even ‘lewd’. I see no swear words. I just see a word manipulated to look like one.
Hay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with all of you people…
However my hate toward the (current) U.S. Government
never changes…
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Manchmal wundere mich ich, warum ich überschwemme Aufstellungsorte…
yupp
Most definately.
Nope. As a parent I don’t want my children subjected to that type of filth. To express a political view is one thing but to be profane and lewd is another. We can all have differences of opinion w/o all the garb that some want to throw in. We have a guardian hooked to our t.v to keep the language filtered out. I really don’t think we should have to blindfold our children in the cars to keep them from seeing lewd junk on bumper stickers. As a Christian I don’t want to have to look @ it going down the road.
maybe…
Yes.
Yeah. It’s not like flag-burning or some other hot-button free speech issue–it’s just something people put on their bumpers. I’ve seen much worse bumper stickers, both conservative and liberal. I think it’s about the same as putting a lewd phrase or word in a comic strip or car ad.
Yes.
I think bumperstickers shousl be allowed to say mostly whatever, as long as it is not threatening.
But WTF does her profession have to do with it? Man I hate how one person’s bad press can spoil the lot for the rest of us
Yes. Give parents something to explain to their kids. “Daddy what do they mean f**k tha Po-lice?”
At least you don’t get video stalked like me.
It’s sad that people nowadays over react ( one word or two ? ) over something so simple.. This world is entirely too uptight.. Learn to laugh and you’ll be healthier..
Yes.
Cusswords are for the illiterate and ineloquent mother f***ers!
its called self-government is it impossible to expect decency out of people? it shouldn’t have to be turned into a law. it should be common courtesy.
Yes. You don’t have to like what she says, nor do you have to listen; but she does have the right to say it.
bitch you suck ass!!
No.
> Lewd is up to the definition in the law…. Obviously the strikedown of that mentioned law was an indication, if not a sign that world is changing somewhat as to what is lewd…. Evolution or conspiracy?? Stay tuned….
Peace
haaha,,i like cafe!
Yes. A word has no power over you. Words are something invented by people and many, many words are given far too much power. FuckShitCockCuntBitchGodDamn. You’re still alive. Do you want there to be no more profane language? Make it all okay!