November 28, 2006

  • Free Speech

    so, it’s kestryl posting for dan again; (who knows what’s keeping him from his loyal readers this time?) :

    The Rev. Jesse Jackson was asked the other day if the N-word was covered under free speech. He said that it was “unprotected.” Jesse Jackson has called on people to boycott the release of the seventh season of Seinfeld on DVD.

    Is the N-word covered under free speech?

     

Comments (134)

  • eh, it shouldn’t be. i don’t think free speech covers derogatory terms.

  • and yes, i cheat and comment first when i post for you, dan. so sue me.

  • But i also reserve the right to protest speech I don’t like. 

  • dunno.  people use it, but only certain ones. 

  • It certainly is covered. Other offensive language of all sorts is covered, therefore the “n-word” is covered as well.

  • Did Kestryl actually write that comment after the post, or was it a copy-paste deal?

  • Its a word isn’t it?

  • no, i actually wrote it after the post.

  • Well, considering the fact that Blacks use it amongst eachother calling it “brotherhood” but when whites say it “it’s racist”.  If they protect that right for Blacks and not other racial groups, that’s a double standard.  Either it is taboo for all, or all can use it.  Therefore I’d say it is protected — but they keep that “protection” for themselves.

  • sure.

    but lynching isn’t.

    kill whitey.

    kidding. sheesh.

  • It is a vile word and protected in my opinion – Cracka!

  • it is. I would prove it, but it’s not even worth it, everyone here wouldn’t believe me.

  • I may not like it, but yes.

  • What’s the N word anyway?

    NUCLEAR?

    NIPPLES?

    No one can stop me from saying anything. EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

  • The n word

    yes.

    You can say somebody “can’t say this”  “can’t say that”

    But you can’t control what you say in their sleep

    Would the government really arrest somebody cause they said the n-word while dozing?

    how bout arresting a bum because of saying the f-bomb in public because that’s what he happened to say in his sleep in the park?

  • living_embers,

    I can’t remember the title, but a black author wrote a very well known essay about why it’s ok for blacks to use the “n-word” amongst each other even though it’s offensive for someone of another race to use it.

    The basic reasoning is this: The word, in it’s original context, was a vile horrendous attack on the victim’s humanity. Everything that it implied was degrading and dehumanizing. The only way to fight back against this kind of attack, (even to this day) is to try to take away some of the power that the word has. If they use it in a affectionate way to each other, it loses some of the negative connotations and is thus less hurtful.

    There was more to the story. I’ll look it up for you, if you’re interested.

  • by the way jimmyjazz, who said the following:

    If you want to write shitty poems on your site, that’s fine with me. But please spare us all from having to read them on Dan’s site.

    And go eat something.

    -Nick

    Posted 11/28/2006 at 12:05 PM by jimmyjazz86
     
     
    I find poetry is a great way to express my feelings.  If Dan asks me to stop writing my emotions out in poetry here, I will.  Till then I’ll continue!

  • Depends on how you use it. In general protected, spoken to a black mans face and said in anger, its “fighting words” and leaves you open to an assault or a change of assault.

    Mutual combat is what they call it if you get your butt kicked for it.

  • Meh, get the black people to stop saying it first, then we’ll try not to say it

  • the__apathy: but isn’t that a double standard, the very thing that minorities rally against and decry?

  • living_embers , i can see where you’re coming from, but it’s less of a double standard when you keep in mind that words don’t mean anything without context — if someone, black or white, means the words to be derogatory, then its entirely different than an expression of comradery.

  • it’s used as a hate word, and hate speech is not free speech.

  • i don’t think free speech was ever meant to be for making derogatory/hateful statements towards people.  I think the reason for it was mostly for protecting citizens who speak out against the government from persecution and condemnation, not for protecting those who persecute/condemn others for being different.  And definitely not as an excuse for what they say (“I have freedom of speech, so I’ll say whatever I want any way that I want”).

    But then can we make that illegal? unfortunately i don’t think we can. it almost sounds like mind control, which is obviously impossible without becoming a dictatorship… but we need to keep drilling into society that saying things like the n-word and other racial slurs are wrong, even to the point of saying that’s it’s not covered in free speech…

  • While our morals should keep us from using terms like that, if free speech is “free” then I think everything is game…

  • I hate that word and don’t think it would be a loss to ban it, but I thought it was covered under free speech – although maybe using it in a certain context would transform it into hate speech. Maybe I am wrong. I should look that up.

  • I’m not even going to answer the question, I’m just going to say boycotting seinfeld is something I would never support.  The show was never racist, just the Micheal Richards.  However, Kramer is not. 

  • “hate speech is not free speech”

    Yes it is, thank God in the USA someone can’t just decide that some things can not be said. Now for you Canadians and others that is not the case

  • Kestryl: but couldn’t a relativist and behaviorist say that how one views a situation/context depends upon that person’s past experiences with the n-word?  Clarification: a white guy walks up to a black man and says the n-word and they shake on it; it’s a friendly greeting because they know each other have never been negatively addressed with the n-word.  On the other hand, two black men can use it in brotherhood in much the same manner, or they could use it negatively towards each other depending upon their relationship. Futhermore, could one person not walk up to another call the other the n-word and one person means it in jest and yet the “victim” feels violated and dehumanized?  In that situation, it depends upon our personal past experiences and contexts.

  • I wonder why Jesse got involved in this?  Could it be because MONEY was mentioned?  Using my right to free speech….Jackson is one of the great shake down artists of our time.   

    Yelling fire in a theatre is not free speech and saying the word “bomb” in an airport or airplane is not free speech.  If the “n” word is not to be free speech, then what about ”cracker” when referring to a white person or ”whitey”?  Lets just outlaw all words and go back to grunting as communication.  ::rolls eyes::   

  • I think boycotting Seinfeld’s release because of an incident with Michael Richards is like burning down the whole house because of a few ants. That doesn’t hurt just Richards, but Seinfeld, the rest of the cast, and everyone else involved in the show. They didn’t do anything wrong.

    The first amendment says “Congress shall make no law…………….abridging the freedom of speech.” I take that to mean that the government will not step in and tell us what we can and can’t say, with the exception of something like yelling ’fire’ in a crowded theater where it puts people in danger. That doesn’t mean that society doesn’t have expectations of how people should treat others with regard to speech and Michael Richards definitely crossed the line.  

  • Heck no. Put the shoe on the other foot. How ’bout a black man using a racial slur against a white man, would that be considered free speech? Nope, we’d string him up. So no, racial slurs are not covered by free speech.

    Well wait, yeah he’s free to say what he wants and he is also free to pay the consequences.

  • YES. MOTHERFUCKING YES.

    Sorry about the caps, but this whole thing is stupid now. We all know Kramer’s not funny. We all know he’s a racist.

    Why are we so fucking ANGRY about it?! This isn’t 1950.

  • There are limitations to free speech:  i.e. you can’t not yell “fire” in a crowded theater when there is no fire.  one can get arrested for such an endeavor.

    but the word  “Nigger” is protected under free speech.  In spanish the color black is called “Negro” 

    Why do we call it the “N-word”  when we all know what it is and we think it? 

    I don’t think people should be using the word nigger in general conversation, but our laws are what it is…and that way we will be able to determine who is against us and who is for us.  If it was a banned word, we wouldn’t know our enemies.

  • I’m not sure, but I do know that it’s rude and in bad taste.

  • It’s distateful and ignorant, but not libelous.  I’ve always found it reveals more about the person using it rather than the person it’s used against.

  • So long as you don’t say ‘bomb’ on an airplane.  ^_^

  • Well, it’s wrong.  But free speech covers many wrong things, and I don’t see why this one should be much different.

  • I don’t think it should be..

  • i don’t think any words should be “banned” just the way they are used.  if i want to use a word i will use it weather jesse jackson or anyone else beleives it’s right or wrong.  it’s my choice what words come out of my mouth.

  • i think the nazi v. skolke case
    i totally forget what it’s called
    but the neo nazis wanted to march in a jewish community and the community wouldn’t allow it
    so the nazis whined to the aclu
    and the court ruled in favor of the nazis

    but they ended up not marching

  • Boycotting the release of seinfeld is anti-semetic

  • Sure it’s free speech.  Doesn’t mean I have any desire to use the horrible word.  And it doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences when people decide to do so.  I do hate the double standard though. 

    I can’t stand the Rev. Jesse Jackson.  What a joke.  I’ll still be buying the 7th season of Seinfeld for my sister for Christmas.

  • The n-word the words fag, dike, queer, kike, all words are protected by the 1st amendment. Secondly why can black people use that word and other racist terms but whites can’t

  • As for what living embers said

    living_embers,
    Who I guess
     the__apathy
    ?
     
    About using the n-word in a “positive” way makes it less bad.  Some people do the same thing with the word “trannies”  Say it’s okay to say so because they’re making it an acceptable word.  But some words shouldn’t be made “acceptable” in the first place, cause they’re too crude and offensive!

  • the_apathy actually the history of the word is simply dialect and accent . The origin of the word was negro which was gradually corrupted by southern accent and the rate at which it was said

  • The answer is yes and no. You cannot shout fire in a crowded theater and claim that it was free speech. In the same way, the N word can be free speech depending upon how it’s used. If you use it such that you could create a fight or other breach of the peace, it wouldn’t be protected. I suspect that if you prosecuted people for saying the N word, you’d be prosecuting a lot more blacks than whites.

    Boycotts are a lot like wars. They tend to create a lot of collateral damage. If one person is racist in a group, should you punish the whole group? Doesn’t seem right to me.

  • Forensics4life echoes my sentiments exactly. 
    PacifismPlease, your comment is unclear to me, what exactly are you saying?  I’d dare to say it’f your sentence structure that throws me off.

  • Hey, its no big deal when white people get called names, and while the N word is a horrible word, so are all the others used to describe races and such.

    I don’t think we could possibly outlaw just N-word, that’d be racist to everyone else.

  • language is always changing.  words fall in and out of usage, and meanings change constantly.  pronunciation and contexts in which a word is used is also at issue here.  For that reason, I’d allow it under free speech; it could fall back into positive use if the Blacks would stop beating a dead horse.  Who knows what current words today will fall into derogatory terms 20 years down the road?  there are things such as cohorts that also need to be considered: people who grow up in an era are more prone to use certain words than others. They may not do so in defiance or in the context that it is now taken, they use it as they learned during their development.

  • My question to you Pacifismplease is who gets to decide what words are to horrible to be allowed?

  • Why wouldn’t it be?

    it is free speech

    not speech only to include words that people find acceptable. Jeeze.

  • it’s a form of speech, therefore protected. and jesse jackson is not the person in charge of defining free speech.

    it’s not that i don’t hate the word. but i hate the word ‘moist’ too, and i shouldn’t be the one to tell anyone if they can or can’t say that.

  • >> Jesse Jackson has called on people to boycott the release of the seventh season of Seinfeld on DVD. <<

    Bad move. That’s not justice. That’s punishing all of the other cast members of the show, not to mention the fans.

  • i think it should be covered, but i don’t like the fact that it’s used at all.

    i don’t like anyone saying it, but i don’t think it’s fair that some view it all right to be said by certain people and not others.

  • If the n-word isn’t covered under free speech, then f-bomb shouldn’t be either. As it is, both words are used more often than I like in ways that aren’t meant to be especially derogatory. But free speech is what it is–a right of ours to use whatever words we want. Offensive words are protected. Hate speech isn’t, and that can happen with or without expletives and derogatory names. The biggest issue is determining which is which.

  • Actually I would like to point out that hate speech is covered. While I don’t like it or agree with it at all I do believe that the first amdendment is absolute in its protection of our abilities to say anything that doesn’t cause a massive panic like saying fire in a theater or bomb on a plane.

  • Yes it is. But it’s still up to “community standards” as to how to treat it. Should they boycott? My question is, if you intend to keep calling yourselves that word, why should I take you seriously? Why should I accept blame and guilt for using a term that you are just as guilty for keeping in the vernacular?

    Free Speech, baby. Remove the beam from your own eye before you try to remove the mote from mine!

  • I’m pretty sure “hate language” is NOT covered. But I still want to know how come african americans can freely use that word and its not offensive?

  • Hate language is covered it became covered in the Supreme Court case regarding the nazi march in ohio that was talked about earlier in the posts.

  • PORCH MONKEY 4 LIFE!!

  • *pops in a rap CD entitles “Holla to all my bitches and my N——rs”

    He seems to have no problem of it being used by rapper or the average black on the street. It either is or IS NOT acceptable. This double standard PC crap needs to stop. Is it okay or not? my gut tells me no. But a boycott of the 7th season of sienfeld… do his followers even watch that show? I dont think it will be effective.

    He apologized and apparently the people who Accosted him called him cracker and i heard 1 story where “honkie” was used. I ma not justifying it, but the repercussions he has had ot pay for this lil things is crazy. So what if he dislikes black people? Black people dislike him. IT seems that we are having our opinions of race imposed on us. He is not longer entitles to his opinion becuase Jesse Jackson said so. He is already apologized, and then they say “No, i want an apology ot my face, and some money” and now they want to boycott this too? THis is like a repeat of the Dixie Chicks bullshit. Oh well. Go ot Europe, they are not as PC over there.

  • Ok. its a damn show. Now why would someone feel better after banning a damn t.v. show from dvd release. Trust me, it’s not going to take back the “stupid”.

  • by the way, I’m with Carate. It should be up to the person if the words they use is moral or offensive.

  • its covered under theory.

  • I can see where a black person (or is the politically correct term African-American now?) would be offended…I guess if it’s offensive to someone, it shouldn’t be said.

  • It’s covered, but perhaps we all should take a little bit of accountability for our own words. I think that we’ve underestimated the power of words in our culture. We let the F-bomb fly. We think that things are funny, when in reality it’s crude, and even hurtful. A little grace should be put back into our culture.

  • Everything is covered under free speech, doesn’t mean you won’t get punched in the face for it.

  • Free speech covers all speech, whether we like it or not. That’s the deal with free speech.

  • Free speech is free speech.  Who decides here?  If I say something and person A thinks it’s bad, and person B doesn’t, then WHO DECIDES?  You either accept free speech as all or nothing, even the “bad” stuff, or it’s NOT free speech. 

  • It depends, possibly, in what context.

  • Absolutely.

    Does it need to be said? Never. Should it be covered under free speech? Without a doubt.

  • Of course it is protected–free speech means free speech. Otherwise, where would it stop? Must we legislate everything? Jesse is just trying to be relevant again.

  • Yes, it is, but so are boycotts.  If Seinfeld uses that word, then a boycott is completely acceptable.  There’s a difference between “Legal” and “Morally Right”; only the government can enforce the first, and only the people can enforce the second.

  • People can say what they want whether we like it or not.

  • if its FREE speech, shouldnt all words be under it?

  • Of course, ever turned on MTV? Or maybe all those rich rappers should be arrested.

  • By the way, I’m pretty sure that our fore fathers didn’t have the Constitution written with Free Speech written disgrace someones name or character. It’s pretty funny that we can throw Free Speech around without realizing what it was meant for. For you to express your feeling of someone or something in an orderly manner. Not to go around calling a black person a nigger or a white person a peckerwood. Think about that one.

  • An awful word

  • But I don’t think ol’ Kramer should be arrested for it. Or a boycott should occur for a dvd to be pulled of the shelves.

  • By the way, I’m pretty sure that our fore fathers didn’t have the Constitution written with Free Speech written disgrace someones name or character. It’s pretty funny that we can throw Free Speech around without realizing what it was meant for. For you to express your feeling of someone or something in an orderly manner. Not to go around calling a black person a nigger or a white person a peckerwood. Think about that one.
    Posted 11/28/2006 at 2:39 PM by GunStarHero1988

    Wow, i’m such a fuck head. So many typo’s. Well That’s The gunstarhero for ya.

  • Yes free speech is just that, FREE!!! I will say what I want, when I want, and if your feelings were hurt they were week and going to die anyway. 

  • Yes.

        -KrIsTiN-

  • oops I ment weak haha

  • Of course it is. I think it’s silly to use it, but it’s also silly to be so offended by it

    Yeah, it’s really never spoken with good intentions, but there are so many other digusting words we use much more frequently that don’t draw this kind of attention 

  • Does the first amendment have a specific list of words that are “covered”?  Really? 

    I think boycotting the recent DVD release is stupid.  The show “Seinfeld” has nothing whatsoever to do with Michael Richard’s insane rant.

  • ppl are too concerned w/being PC nowadays–who cares! i can insult ppl, make them uncomfortable and feel belitted without using any so-called “derogatory” terms…i think ppl can say w/e the hell they want, offensive or otherwise–they should NOT say certain things, but it’s their right to if they want to, much as it pains others. if you get into things where it reaches into actual offenses, such as painting a swatsika on a jewish person’s car, that’s where to put a stop to it!

  • It is protected, but just because you can say it doesn’t mean you should; it’s a vile word.

  • Using the N word is wrong because it’s derogatory, and it has no point- it doesn’t make a political statement. So freedom of speech shouldn’t cover it.

  • It’s obviously not a very nice thing to say, but it is NOT the government’s responsiblity or right to limit what people say, barring threats. We cannot and should not limit freedom of speech just because some people find certain things offensive. After that, we won’t be allowed to critisize the government at all, and then we’ll gradually lose all of our most basic, human rights until we end up being a society of proles talking about how “doubleplusgood” the government is. This is a slippery slope, and if play near the edge of it, we’ll find ourselves at the bottom before we know it.

    Anyone who thinks the government should even attempt to limit free speech that drastically is a stinkin’ commie.

    Kestryl, that includes you.

  • I dont like the word and the black teens call each of there own race  the n word

  • It is protected.  Just because a word is offensive, vile, repugnant, inappropriate does not mean that it is not protected under the right to say it.  If we made all words that are offensive illegal…then we’d have a real problem wouldnt we?

  • its protected. just because a word is derogatory or has such a horrible history doesn’t mean that its unprotected. however, that doesn’t mean people should use it. but, i don’t think we can make saying it illegal.

  • Forgiving christian my ass.  He should be ashamed of himself for his judgement.  The Reverend J.J. is going to Hell.

  • I’d say the “n-word” could definitely be considered fighting words, which are not covered by free speech.

  • Alright lets go with this fighting words thing for a moment under this theory any words that can lead to violence or a person feeling offended enough to start a fight should not be covered by freedom of speech. If you agree with this think of the implication regarding voicing religion, opposing opinions to the current party in power, and any thing that a person might take offensive. I believe that people trying to limit the first admendment is vile and it is something that should be fought against. Does this mean that the first admendment shouldn’t allow for these people to speak. No, it allows us to speak these opinions. Are any of you aware that free speech is one of the reasons blacks and women are considered people. In the past it was “fighting words” to suggest that a black person wasn’t 3/5 a person and that a woman should have the right to speak. Next time you want the constitution to ban “fighting words” think about what these “fighting words” have done.

  • OMG that’s gay as hell. And YES that’s freedom of speech.

  • Freedom of speach must include anything, right? Otherwise there is no freedom, even if we may dissagree with it. You can’t have freedom of speech, but only regarding things and words you like… so sometimes you have to take the good with the bad.

    But people are criticised for using this word by society, so in that way it is an unexcepted word. I think really that’s the best you can hope for, otherwise if you say you can’t say this one word, then they’ll be other words that you won’t be able to say, it’ll esculate, you won’t be able to critisise religions, or speak ill of anything that anyone hold sacred…

  • obviously it is.

  • I hate racism, and that’s precisely why the word “nigger” should be protected – hate speech laws are often used to support reverse discrimination.  If you watch TV, you probably are well aware that many have no qualms about dropping the words “cracker” and “honky” ad nauseum…

    There’s black entertainment television and more and many of them are racist.  Openly.  Pretty soon whites will be in the minority and already are in many school districts.

    My daughter (who is part Native American and Mongolian but looks white for all intents and purposes) has been openly mocked and called ugly for being white (“whites are so da*& ugly”) … school knew about such behaviors but didn’t want to rock the boat and so they did nothing.  Hardly an isolated incident.  Anything but.

    If a white person wanders into the “wrong neighborhood,” they “deserve it” if they get raped, maimed, or killed.  (Sarcasm alert.)  Same someone weas a “white pride” T-shirt.

    Do the math.

  • Is the N word protected?

    Sure it is, it is protected from having a law passed against it.

    Are you protected from fucking yourself if you sling it around like an idiot, white or black?

    Nahhh.

    I sometimes wonder if I will make a national precedent by losing my job or getting blacklisted by use of xanga.

    Probably not a national precedent, I’ll just be (AM) silently blacklisted, and I never used the N word, I hate that word.

    The moral is your actions have consequences. Those consequences should not be delegated by the governent. You foolish words will catch up to you and that is life. Don’t cry now.

  • yes but the way he was using it, saying it somewhere between 7 and 10+ times, i mean that’s just ridiculous. it was extremely offending to the african-american community

  • Any word, whether you like it or not, is free speech.

  • that’s a racist comment, & even though we do have free speech, it doesn’t mean you need to insult someone. we ended racism a while ago. even though it still exists, people who are public speaking should not encourage it.

  • it’s a word. so yes, it is.

  • I’ve heard Polak used aganist me. My people also had shit done to them and the word should be hurtful, but guess what? I have NEVER seen anyone whine about it, unless they dislike the person saying. (I did that in the 7th grade and the ass got in trouble. Other then that I didn’t care.)

  • Wait a second why are we all not looking into the situation. Are the guys who were sitting there heckling him at fault for anything? Should they have thier first amendment rights taken away in this situation because they were trying to instigate the situation?

  • So…..how can there be racial equality if they throw a fit over a stupid word? And calling for Seinfeld to be boycotted…..wow…lame.

  • I can’t stand Jesse Jackson – so I can’t say.  But I am a Seinfeld fan and hope they don’t ban the DVD.

  • What makes it right for two colored people using the word to each other, but a white person can’t call a colored person that?  I don’t think it’s appropriate either way, unless it’s used in context, like an old book or something.  It’s just like using the F-word or Sh*t.  It’s profane.  And if people are offended by it, then there’s your answer, don’t use it!

  • if a black person says so, yes.  if a white person does, no. 

  • Simply: Yes.

    It may be offensive, but that’s part of having free speech. To simplify what might be the ramifications: If you give a mouse a cookie…

  • Yeah, but it’s not in good taste.

  • Forgiving christian my ass.  He should be ashamed of himself for his judgement.  The Reverend J.J. is going to Hell.
    Posted 11/28/2006 at 4:38 PM by Ewidge
     
    Excuse me while I laugh uproariously at the irony.

  • “Freedom of speech is the liberty to freely say what one pleases, as well as the related liberty to hear what others have stated. Recently, it has been commonly understood as encompassing all types of expression, including the freedom to create and distribute movies, pictures, songs, dances, and all other forms of expressive communication.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech

    YES then.

  •  > It should be, as most everything else is , however a small quote from my blog sums it up nicely:

    > Do not speak harshly to anyone; they that do will be answered in kind; angry speech brings pain, as do the blows that follow….

    ‘Nuff said!

    Peace

     

  • Yes, or “free” has no meaning.

    “Free” also means I’m also free to say you’re an idiot if you use it.

    Now we’re both offended, and that’s as it should be.

    Nobody should be able to make a law to keep from being offended.

    Or if they do, they shouldn’t call it “freedom.”

  • Yeah. Definitely. It’s hypocritical to say otherwise. The range of the freedom of the botchery of one’s reputation, however, is up to the speaker.

  • yes, the term is protected under free speech. even hate speech per se is protected. what is not protected is speech uttered to incite riots etc (the old argument about shouting “fire” in a crowded room when no fire exists)…

    just like ‘kike’ or ‘spic’ are protected under free speech. personally i find all/any ethnic/racial slurs offensive, but i will protect your right to utter them… (i will just fight with my conscience about judging you harshly)

  • Free speech and N word?  who knows?  but I am glad there is some talk going around about ALL of us not using it!  I hope the rappers, etc will STOP!  why some, not others?  Let’s face it.  Some of us are dyslexic in terms of social dynamics.  I love rush hour where Jackie Chan gets smashed for his innocent, inappropriate use of the term! 

    can we ALL try to respect us ALL?  Lets try!

  • well technically yes, just because it is offensive doesnt make it illegal…(and yes i do think it is offensive)…but someone better watch how they use it, hate crime laws could cover that…

  • Im even offened when someone says that and I’m white! But if they can say the f-word and everything else under the sun then why cant other people use that? But that dosent mean I like it! : /

  • as much as i would like to make it illegal we cant. I dont know if anyone saw the South Park episode when they were having the christmas special but took out everything that was offencive and they ended up doing something lame. that is how things would be. If we took the “N” word out of free spech then where will it stop?

    and to  living_embers, you have to own it to use it. it is like a female calling another female a bitch. now if a man called a female a bitch, there will be hell to pay, but a female can call another by it, even greet another female by it (i.e. nicole ritchie) and there is no big deal. so i hiope you see the difference.

    either or, it doesnt make it right, but a little understandable.

  • OK I CANT EVEN GET THROUGH READING THE OTHER POSTS W/O HAVING TO COMMENT

    first it isnt ALL black people use use that word. I dont i dont like it when black people use it. But ther is a difference from “whats up nigga?” to ” That person is a nigger!” there is a difference

    second i was waiting for the train one day and there were about 3 kids behind me, and they were like ” yo nigga gimme that shit” na nig thats mine” “yo this nigga has to pee” and i was like WTF? so i turn around…3 WHITE WHITE WHITE kids were talking to each other! not to me or about anyone black. and that isnt the first time i have heard white kids sayingn that. so like i said there is a difference between nigger and nigga.

    third  AskSusie… and to alot of other people who have posted here, i noticed that alot of females are like whatever, blacks get over it how are you offended, bla bla. but let me ask another question If kramer was saying that to women. “You belong in the kitchen! make me a sandwich you whore! why arent you pregnant!” im sure you all would be singing a different tune. It is very easy to put things off when it doesnt directly affect or insult. but just be a little more open to others out there.

  • Yes, actually, it is. Free Speech covers all language, it just doesn’t stop people from being dumb about what they say.

  • yeah, same as bitch, slut, faggot, fucker, asshole, bastard, pussy, piece of shit, dick, cunt, and assorted other not-very-nice names to call people.

  • ah yes, i forgot whore.  i humbly beg for your forgiveness.

  • I think everything is covered under free speech.  I am not racist, I don’t care about black or white, but what I don’t understand is why people with darker skin can call one another by a certain name (albeit the N-word) but when someone with lighter skin says it, it’s so taboo.  All I’m saying is, it’s degrading, it’s wrong, and no one should say it, not even the people of whom it’s said.  And for that matter, people of darker skin shouldn’t call people of lighter skin crackers either.  People in general shouldn’t call other people names because of skin color.  That’s stupid.  We’re all human!!!!  It’s just a difference in skin tone, it is still SKIN!

  • And I mean that morally people shouldn’t say it, I am not calling for a law to ban it.  That would be against the Constitutional right for free speech.

  • The N-word should definitely be avoided, but boycotting Seinfeld because of it is ignorant. What Michael Richards did and said was horribly wrong, but Seinfeld is from his past, and boycotting the past isn’t an answer to Richard’s problematic present.

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