November 28, 2006

  • Library Porn

    I used the email posting feature this morning and as you can see from the post below it worked perfectly.  It posted 6 1/2 hours later and with a yahoo advertisement with it. (Apparently people still can’t get enough of Jesus or rabbits having sex).

    Here we go: 

    A library in Mt. Clemens shut down Internet access because people were using the internet to look up porn.  The concern was that children and families may see the material.  The computers had filters but the “law requires them to be turned off if a patron over 18 requests.”

    Should porn access be banned from public libraries?

     

Comments (175)

  • yes definately – there needs to be a good reason for access

  • Of course, it’s a public place filled with little children

  • Yes! My Aunt is a library director for a small town, where the computers are in a high traffic area. Both kids and adults use those computers, and you’d be amazed at the number of people she’s had to ask to get off of pornography websites.

  • NO. Hell No. That’s what the consitution is about. Or isn’t that why America is supposedly in war now?

  • And first!

    Even if you do view it in a library, what are you going to do with it?  Look at the porn and… not masturbate?
    However, it would be somewhat difficult to get a filter that has a good line between pornography and art, so I don’t know what to do about that.  I’m just not helpful today, am I?

  • in a sense i dont think its really necessary for a library to have that type of content unless its for a educated purpose…

  • Yes…if you want to look at that kind of thing, do it in private.  Not in a public library where there are children and decent people walking around who DON’T want to come across that stuff by accident.

  • Yes.  I feel adult content sites should be blocked from public libraries.  Thereis not reason for anyone to view “porn” in a library.  In fact it’s just…ewww.

  • You betcha. Why turn off the filters off– why not leave them on even for eighteen year olds and up? It’s a library… if you want to do questionable stuff online, do it at home or at a friend’s house.

    …:P

  • yeah. little kids get on them, my little brother does when the internet at home isn’t working

  • “NO. Hell No. That’s what the consitution is about”

    Were do they come from? Try reading the constitution before you come up with some lame idea of what is in it.

  • yes. What people want to do in private is different from what they do in a public place. At my school, it’s considered sexual harrassment to show someone else pornography/pornographic images if they don’t want to see it. Even if the person didn’t intend for the other person to see the images.

  • uhh… yeah, i was at a library in iowa and a guy was looking at gay porn with 4 8 year olds behind him. that was not a good experience. It should be banned, children go there!!!!

  • Yes. Why the hell would you do that at a library?

  • “(Apparently people still can’t get enough of Jesus or rabbits having sex).”

    ahahha, aww. Thats all my fault. Whoops.

  • I don’t understand the allure of looking up porn in a library.

    Maybe that whole “Filter off at request” rule is dealing with adults wanting to do research or look at sites with swearing.. that’s fine. But there should be a sex filter on public computers.. if you don’t have internet access and you’re an adult, just go buy a magazine and look at it at home.

  • YES!!!

  • I personally think that yes, they should filter out the porn from the internet in library computers. But don’t the laws of our country kind of go against that? Isn’t it against their rights and freedoms to access whatever they want?

  • yea. I have no problem with it, but if you go to the library to look at porm you really suck at life.

  • yes, the pic is of Jesus instead of rabbits.

  • Dear lord, it’s common courtesy not to do that in a public place. Who raised the people who do this?

  • “so, little billy, what did u learn at the library?”

  • Heck yes. Dude if you have to look at it, go home. Dont do it in a public library where some kid could walk past.

  • I am NEVER EVER using the computers at the Library again…Seriously- who would want to touch the keyboards after hearing a story like that.

    Remember- Every time you Masturbate, God kills a kitten.

  • THE RABBITS ARE NOT HAVING SEX!!!

    they’re boxing

  • Ew.  I don’t think people should be looking at porn on library computers.  If you want to look at porn and don’t have an internet connection, go head over to one of those adult bookstores. 

  • yes, it should be banned.. if you’re so desparate that you need to visit a library to do that, you have serious issues…

  • “sex can wait, masturbate!”

  • No way, Freedom of speech

  • Nowhere does our government give anybody the right to view porn in public. It could actually fall under an indecent public exposure if you wanted it to. It is not legal to do a lot of things in public that you can legally do in private. Be it smoke now in a lot of places, and a number of different things. It is perfectly legible as well as appropriate for a library to block porn sites. Also, since a library can often be privately owned just chartered by the government it’s perfectly alright for those people to choose what to have in their library. Just as a church library would not have porn in it so a private library is the same way.

    It’s my opinion that porn ought to be made illegal in any public domain, including magazine stores and things like that. It should not be as easily accesable as it is. Particularly because of the risk of children being exposed to it.

    -Josh

  • It’s like the Madonna book that came out some time back. You can allow it, but you have to find ways to keep it from being seen by people who don’t like it or are too young to see it.

    So, who says what’s porn and what’s not? If we get rid of porn shouldn’t we also get rid of all those books with incest and sex with their relatives? If so, then we need to ban the Holy Bible also.

  • it would make sense……

  • Yes, depending on the location of the computer.

  • The First Amendment was meant to protect political and religious speach, not any speech. If you’ll notice, there are some kinds of speech that are still not allowed in the U.S. (If you don’t believe me just try making threatening comments about the President, and see how much the Secret Service laughs about it). The idea behind the First Amendment was that in England and elsewhere people were jailed and so forth for offering differing views from the polotical leaders, etc….and so the founding fathers put the First Amendment together to guarentee that wouldn’t happen in the U.S.

  • Hmm… if some woman went to the library dressed like a porn model and sat down in the middle of the library in a provocative pose, then the librarians would probably call the police, as would numerous patrons. How is having pictures of that really any different? Besides, even if we do constitutionally have the right to look at porn in a library (not sure which part of the document covers that one), part of freedom is giving up what we want to do for the sake of what will benefit those around us.

  • What if I needed to do studies on Pornography? Gee, so inconsiderate of the government.

  • YES its a public library!

  • porn should be banned from libraries…

  • I thought that it was Jesus and the Rabbi having sex.

  • You forgot to put in the “ENDPOST” to avoid that ad at the end.
    And yes, I see the rabbits and Jesus.

  • i’m having a very hard time seeing the rabbits… and when i’m able to pick out the rabbits, they’re holding hands and look like they’re going to kiss… i don’t see the sex part…

    anyway, i don’t think they should allow it and i really don’t think it’s a constitutional right to look at porn in a public library.  can’t stop them from viewing while they’re in the privacy of their own home, but it’s a public library.  If you can’t run around nude in public anywhere, then why should people be able to show people being nude in erotic positions in public?  Sure, they won’t intentionally be showing porn to other people, but it doesn’t take much for a person walking by to see it…

  • uh duh why wouldn’t they

  • I’m just imagining the kind of creepy looks one gets when asking the librarian to please turn the filter off.  I suppose if you’re looking at porn in a freaking library, you don’t care what others think.

  • Only if they make you wear clothes in the library.

  • Yes.  People have the opportunity and convenience of being perverts in their own homes, not in a public place, like the library.

  • Should kids have access to drugs?  Yeah, it should be banned.  Porn shouldn’t exist, that’s what.

  • Yes! I hated when I went to the library as a kid to do some research, and needed a computer and had to sign up on a waiting list. If I was waiting for people surfing through porn when I had work to do, I would have been quite upset.

  • Yes. definately. Hello, it’s a public place!

  • Probably.  I’m not sure why people would want to look at porn in public, either.

  • I think porn should be treated almost like heroin. And, one should never be allowed to access any porn at all unless it’s paid for. It should be taxed like cigarettes and beer. This is not just the bane of children but more so of men. 
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/porntidalwaveputsparentstotest
    ——————————–
    My friend SoundByte had this to say:
     
    (Porn can appeal to both genders, but I will focus on men for this, as men are affected foremost.)
     
    Porn aims for the death of the family in this country.  
     
    Porn sets up lethally false expectations about sex – it lies about what women enjoy, how they act, what they need, the types of sex they want.    In the early years of porn the sex was somewhat ‘normal’, but now porn emphasizes perversion more, with sodomy, brutality, groups, etc.  
     
    Porn creates insatiable appetites for things you can never have, training you to be addicted to the impossible.   The most beautiful, augmented people in the world are on eager carnal display for you, physically shaming most of our mates in comparison.   Porn says you can have two or three partners at a time, as often as you want them.   They will do things your mate would never want to do.   And they will “act” hungrier for these things than your mate ever will, because porn is exactly that – acting out a lie.
     
    Porn hides the twisted consequences to relationships, to marriages, to health, to the unborn, to the soul, to God.
     
    Porn denigrates women.  It reduces them to mere pieces of meat to be used – and abused – for male sexual pleasure.   Husbands, who are divinely ordered to be benevolent servants, become selfish takers.  All the dimensions and purposes God gave to women are flushed down the toilet, crippling a man’s ability to pursue the fullness of what God intended in a woman.
     
    Porn will destroy our children before their horses even get out of the chute.   Young males burn with sexual curiosity and hunger, and porn will feed them soul-death on a cold plate.   Our young men will be ‘taught’ repeatedly that our daughters get ecstatic over being brutally sodomized.   The chances of our youth making it to the marriage altar as virgins, with pure views of sex and relationships, are almost dead.
     
    And while we are rightfully alarmed about porn’s effects on our youth, the effect on men is also devastating, for all the reasons given above.  
     
    Of course porn is appealing to men!   It is naturally so, and people need to stop denying this.   As a man, there is something WRONG a you if a beautiful nude woman ready to have sex does nothing for you.  Hello?   The very reason we SHOULD be against porn is because it IS a real attraction to us, and we need to stop being ashamed to say so!   Realize that this ‘shame’ is a tactic of the forces of evil, mocking us to keep us afraid of attacking something we know is dangerous to us. 
     
    Men were INTENTIONALLY CREATED as sexual creatures.   Men were created to be severely attracted to the hot beauty of the female body – especially the “perfect” bodies that porn offers.   God Himself designed the orgasm as a gift to us.   That is why porn is so effective, because it calls to powerful natural desires – and it wants to twist those desires out of proportion, make us slaves to them, then cruelly addict us to lies and over saturation levels we can never have.
     
    Yet men understandably fear to admit their attraction to porn.  Wives don’t understand it, feel betrayed, and will have hurt feelings.  Society would laugh a man out of the building for admitting he habitually watches dirty movies – and by implication, probably spanks the monkey while he does so.   Ha, ha, you WACKER!   The society that seduces our sexual desires in private then publicly mocks us for having those drives when we protest the temptations.   Even requesting a filtered Internet service makes a man feel like he is openly admitting “weakness”, that he “can’t control himself”.   So porn remains the silent slayer, using the powerful prison bars of embarrassment to keep men from seeking help and escape.
     
    And now thanks to the Internet, a man no longer has to nervously journey to a sinister part of town to get porn; it is served up in the privacy of his own home by custom valet ‘drug’ dealers.  And saying “well, then just avoid it if you don’t like it” is not the answer – if it is, why don’t you take the same attitude toward illegal drugs, hypocrite?    Just let those drugs be readily available and simply tell people to avoid them if they don’t like them.   Oh, because drugs hurt people, they say?   AND PORN DOESN’T???    Mark my words, porn will do more damage to ourselves, to others, to our marriages, to our families, to our children, to our society than drugs EVER will.
     
    The bottom line is this:  our youth and children certainly cannot avoid open-access porn;  they lack the maturity and control to avoid and resist such succulent poison.   And expecting parents to police every interaction of an adolescent is idiocy; you KNOW that’s not possible.
     
    What makes me vomit as an American is how evil has elevated “free speech” above morality and safety.   Congress, the courts, and the liberal media would rather see our children’s hearts all rotted to hell from the ravages of unfettered porn than (gasp!) “ruffle someone’s right to free speech”.   Where there is freedom of _expression, THERE MUST BE EQUALLY POWERFUL WAYS TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND ESPECIALLY OUR CHILDREN FROM UNWANTED EXPRESSIONS.   I  will NOT defend to the death someone’s imaginary consequence less “right” to say anything he wants to to my child.   “Well, we’re a destroyed nation but at least we gave everybody all the way down to Satan the power to shove whatever they want into our minds and hearts?”   What fools.
     Yeah, you might claim the right to come tell my little daughter perverse things.   I also claim the right to beat you to a bloody ruin if you try it, whether Congress agrees with that or not.   It’s war.  Open-access porn has to go.

  • On the legal front, the Supreme Court has upheld the use of filters to block access.

  • Ew yes.

  • People look up porn in librarys? Have they no shame? Oh my!!!

    But, surely it would not be allowed for one to view a pornographic film in a library, so why would pornographic imagery allowed on a computer?

  • I think so. A library is a place for literary and academic pursuits, not for the pursuit of sexual pleasure.
    The rabbits I see in the picture are not having sex, they are getting married or something. It looks like they’re holing hands while facing each other, and then the one on the left might be kicking the one on the right.
    Dr. Carasco

  • Yes

  • I think the filters are a good idea. But most filters really suck. The one we have at school blocks more than half of the sites that would be helpful.for projects or papers. And most of the sites that it blocks have nothing to do with porn or shopping, or anything that is NORMALLY blocked at a school.

  • no they should let people but if someone wants to look at porn they should just get a magizine instead of doing things like that in a public place

  • you’ve totally asked this question before, because I remember going on a huge long rant about it. i think it was in december.

  • yes. if you want to be a perv, please do it in the privacy of your own home.

  • Yes. The library is a public space…It’s a double-edged sword.
    I mean…the people who go there to look at porn more than likely pay taxes for that library so…why not get the most of your money ["the most" or "Best" is totally subjective].
    At the same time, young kids go there…
    So….for the libraries I suggest putting screen covers on the computer (like one public library I’ve visted has invested in….) and requiring a person to be 18 or over in order to have total access to the internet.
    Certain computers would be alotted for total access and if there is a need for more computers for young kids, the computer attendant can simply put the filter on the computer.
    As for the people going to libraries to view porn……
    I suggest just buying a Playboy, Playgirl, Maxim, or whatever. Plus you can order adult videos….or go to an adult video store…there are LOTS of options besides going to a public library.
    I don’t think access should be shut down if a person over 18 signs up to use it. What about college kids or people who can’t afford a computer, let alone internet access?
    I just suggest putting filters on the computer and blocking certain websites.

  • As the ranking library goddess of our branch-YES! Altho one of the best deterrents at our library turned out to be a small child who wandered up behind a parton trying to view porn and screeched at the top of her little lungs, “MOM! HE’S LOOKING AT DIRTY PICTURES! YOU PERVERT!” and ran off. That was the best possible filter we could of possibly had.

  • Yes.

  • No, too many underage people would have access…but I guess they could have a filter so that only people of age could look at the porn.

  • People still go the library?!  lol

  • Public libraries mean taxpayers pay for those libraries.  Why should my tax money pay for access to porn?  A public place is not the place for porn.  I suggest those people buy their own computer and look at the porn in their own home.  If they can’t afford a computer, then I suggest they rent a porn movie or buy Playboy or Hustler magazine.  Taxpayers should not pay the bill so someone can satisfy their porn urges.  

    BTW I hate advertisements.  Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

    And I still see no rabbits but I do still see a man’s face. 

  • i notice you’re not getting as many comments as you used to.

    could this possibly be because xanga is slowly dying?

  • yes. they can just as easily access porn other places.

  • I think having on-line porn available is okay, if it can be located in a section of the library that is separate and controled from the rest of the library population

  • Who would look up Porn in a Public place ? !

     George Michael ? Pee Wee Herman ?    Or some unknown sex offender….

    YES !

  • yes

  • I see nudity every day on the net every day at the library.

    Library computer censors a fair amount of xanga’s. . .yet people post nude thinspo’s. . .and the censoring doesn’t catch this.

    But I don’t consider it really “looking up porn.”  It’s not. . .just thinspo that happens to be {gasp} partially naked. {gasp}

  • Gross. Do that shit at home.

  • I don’t think it’s even possible to get the filter removed at the library I go to even if I wanted. . .(which I do!)

    Didn’t think that was even a “possibility” till I read your entry. . .

  • if someone is brassy enough to look porn up in an open venue like a public library, then snaps for them.  I had a hard enough time going to the library to look up certain subjects like WebMD, felt like everyone was looking at me.

  • Yes, but how to do it effectively without inhibiting the ability to do research on other topics is difficult. Those filters usually filter by keywords, so good luck finding info on breast cancer or prostate health if the filter is the method of prohibiting porn usage.

  • Right now I’m at a site that supposedly shows two rabbits having sex. . .a kid could see this at any time.  . .

    Don’t you feel ashamed dan?  Doing a posting on library censorship when some of your readers are probably reading you AT the library?

    And you know how little kids are attracted to bunnies. . .

  • As a former little child I can attest…

    I found wack material in books with NO pictures before the internet.

    Put the block on. If someone requests access, give it to them.

    If they masturbate or excite themselves in a public library using the FREE internet access we should take their picture, post it on the library porn freak loser site and we should all laugh at them.

    Then roving gangs of angry 15 year olds should attack them in the street, public humiliation and a vicious beating.

    Beaten at the hands of the chilren we must protect, thats local enforcement if there ever was such a thing!

    I LIKE!

  • yes eww

  • I don’t think that porn should be banned from libraries, because that goes against the constitution. That library should come up with an alternative, such as having separate computer rooms for children and adults, or something like that.

  • I remember when I was in highschool, the schools ”censors” were a joke.  But I felt weird looking up certain non-porn topics that always seemed to bring up porn. . .cause I kept on thinking I would get caught and in trouble for looking at what I wasn’t wanting to come up!

    Too many subjects trigger porn.  Sometimes you just gotta hate it.  And of course, viruses I’ve heard are rampant among porn sites.  . .I’m surprised I’m even able to read your comments on this entry Dan.  Thought the libraries computer would have decided to censor me. . .

    lol

  • If they don’t let people look at porn in libraries than no one would go, this is America we’re talking about after all.

  • yes, the access should be cut off!! if people want to use the internet for porn, they should go out and get their own computer

  • I think I’ve heard that porn is the number one thing looked up on the net?

    Well obviously the net is a great source of information.  Library should definitely have that. . .they need to learn the following:

    You must take the bad with the good.

    If you have the internet for visitors to go to, you’re going to get some porn going through any “reasonably fair” censors you have.

    Deal with it.

    I have trouble imagining this little 5 year old kid looking up porn on his own. The people who are going to “look up porn when/where they shouldn’t be” are hormone driven teenagers who are having sex on the weekend anyway (or not, probably why they’re looking it up cause they’re not getting any)

    Point being, it’s not very mature to look up that stuff when you’re at the library. . .but I think they’d at least have the decency if a little kid sits on the computer next to them to go to some other more child suitable page. . .

    I think the people who are seeing porn at the library on the net, are people probably old enough to handle seeing it!

  • Absolutely.

  • Okay.  I’m sick of trying to find the bunny. . .

    And I still don’t see Jesus.  I’m just gonna say WHAT I SEE in it.

    I see.  . .

    A dog.

    No seriously.  In the white space in the middle of the coffee. . .the first part closest to the cup is the head, then there’s the neck, and the rest of the body.  Everything but the tail. . .

    Does anyone else see this?

  • People who are stupid enough to look at porn in a public place should be banned from libraries.  No one wants to see you jacking off.

  • Public internet such as libraries should only be used for email, research, and perhaps shopping. You want porn, get a computer and a modem.

  • Oh, and it’s Jesus if he were a member of the Mickey Mouse Club.

  • Yes.

  • Of course.

    If people want to look at porn they should do it at their own houses. If you go to the library to look at porn you really have no life.

  • Yeah!!! Isn’t it common sense that you’re not supposed to look up porn in a library? Even if someone doesn’t tell you that it’s against the rules, everyone just assumes so. Apparently, though, those people in Mt.Clemons don’t have common sense.

                                                                                                  -KrIsTiN-

  • Porn.

    I can just see someone torn.

    Should they look it up at the library, with people around?

    Or at home, where they’re by themselves?  Might parents check computers history?

    Hmmm. . .

    What to do, what to do, what to do.

    Deciding what to do blows.

    Up, up, up the guys’ goes.

    He quickly changes to a less satisfying site.

    But it won’t go down!

    Oh no.  It’s been an hour.  People are waiting to be on.

    “Will you please get off?  Your time is up.  I need to get on.”

    But how can he when his manhood is up-there!  Dancing to it’s own song!

    That’s why you should be less naughty when you’re at the library.

    You’re only causing yourself trouble.

    Of course if you’re a girl you don’t have to worry about risings from your mid-section.

    In that case, you’re more free to make your internet selection. . .

  • sure, why not? but if you’re going to masturbate get your own computer. & i agree with a few of the comments. you really do suck if you go to a library to watch pornography. it’s quite sad.

  • A) No one wants to watch someone else watch porn.

    B) That can only lead to indecent exposure. 

  • Yes. Yes. Yes times infinity.

  • Yes!

    Besides, who’d want to look at porn while little kids are around?

  • No, keep using the filters just like it’s supposed to be. People are so damn touchy. Lack of knowledge about sex is part of the reason teen pregnancy is so high….wow, the will to ignorance.

  • Hey this is a really cute girl if you send me something i will be really nice.  My screenname is noshow678 so hope you send me something love ya Bye!!!!!!!!

  • Where am I going to watch my porn, then?

  • Yes…the clue here is ‘public’ and any kid could walk by and see it.

  • YES!!!! Of course. Children are present. This is how kids get addicted to porn. They look once (even if its by accident), the image is burned onto their minds, they keep thinking about it, and then they want to see more. Before you know it, they’re the ones in the library looking at porn.

  • yeah. it’s a public place for crying out loud. chances are a little kid is going catch someone watching porn one day(i was that little kid once) as vulgar as it is for people watching porn, that just proves they don’t have real hobbies. or a life. or the decency to stay at home and watch it there. 

  • no…if I had a kid I wouldnt’ want him/her seeing that over someones shoulder

  • Little kids don’t know what they’re seeing anyway. Seriously. You might not think so, but I actually remember

  • That big long post is a ton of bullshit

  • I kind of think- Yes…
    I think you need to keep that at your own home.
    Trust me… I am not against porn- In fact I think you should look at it as Much as you want over and over again…
    Just not where you are getting books out…

    XoxoxoX

  • Knee-jerk reactions to this kind of thing are scary. The question isn’t “should people view porn in libraries,” it’s “should porn be banned in libraries.” If by banned we mean by law, it absolutely should not be banned by law. The last thing we need are more laws infringing on civil liberties. We give away way too much already.

    Should libraries develop policies that prohibit the viewing of porn on their computers? Yes, I think so. Just like they should have policies that don’t allow people to smoke in the library, and so on. Libraries try to create a certain type of environment and having people viewing porn on library computers would compromise that environment. Thus it should be forbidden by policy. But not by law.

    The other thing that is often overlooked is that actually implementing a “porn filter” is pretty much impossible. You can either filter by URL or by a algorithmic guess as to the type of images being displayed… the latter works very poorly and has an enormous false positive rate. The former is controlled by humans and is thus subject to malicious modification and is always incomplete at best. It also doesn’t tackle the problem of non-web content (e.g. NNTP newsgroups, etc.).

    I think more thought is required than a simple yes or no.

  • No, there should just be a seperate or “adult room only” so they can do that without onlookers.

  • Yes. People should not be looking at that stuff anyway.

  • I think they should let them turn the filters off if someone over 18 requests, but if they go to porn sites they should be kicked out. Sometimes filters get in the way of things that aren’t porn.

  • It’s not a mattter or law, but of morals.

  • the library is a place to learn and look up books..NOT porn..thats for HOME!! lol

    but who would honestly WANT to look it up in a place like the library?

    ~Abby

  • duh? if someones that sick they should get their own internet

  • Huh, weird

    At our library, parents must sign a consent form in order for their kids to use the computers, and with that form, they also indicate the level of a filter they would like to use when they log into their account.

    Whatever though, I think porn anywhere is nasty and should be left alone by everyone

  • Haha. If they’re that desperate, we’d better let them look before they do something violent.

  • Yes… because we don’t want to see a pedophile masturbating in front of little kids…

  • filters block good websites. simple solution: if someone is viewing porn, kick them out (or better yet, have them arrested)

  • Of course it should.  My tax dollars shouldn’t be going to feed someone’s sicko porn habit.

  • I think if the computers are in a high traffic area, then yes, pornogrophy should be off limits… in a more secluded corner of a library… I don’t know…

  • Yes. I don’t give a damn if that’s “infringing their rights”, by viewing porn People have so many rights already, why the hell should we allow them to pleasure themselves in PUBLIC libraries, where children can watch your every move. Children’s presence is significant to the argument, because children have a gift that no one should strip from them – innocence. By letting them see pornography, which is gross anyway, they definitely will lose some of that gift…that shouldn’t happen. We need to protect them until they are old enough.

    Creed_of_Kings, you are my hero. I agree with everything you said.

    “What makes me vomit as an American is how evil has elevated “free speech” above morality and safety. Congress, the courts, and the liberal media would rather see our children’s hearts all rotted to hell from the ravages of unfettered porn than (gasp!) “ruffle someone’s right to free speech”. ”

    Exactly. Just because a person wants something, doesn’t mean that he should be allowed to do it. “Oh, I feel like killing someone” – well, you can’t. If you do, you get in trouble. Same with viewing porn in a library.

    I’d like to see American society in 50 years. I wonder how all this liberty will affect the people. Will they have the strength to control, and not abuse, their liberty and power?

  • Our library has two computer stations.  They both have filters and are kept on (as far as I know).  One section is for 16 and younger.  The other for adults.  I haven’t heard of any problems.  I believe when we signed up to be able to use them we had to sign an agreement of some sort.  I don’t remember what it all said, but I am sure it had something about the standards they would like to see in place.

  • yes

  • “NO. Hell No. That’s what the consitution is about”

    Were do they come from? Try reading the constitution before you come up with some lame idea of what is in it.
    Posted 11/28/2006 at 3:54 PM by trunthepaige
     
     > Yes, try reading both the document and the Supreme Court judgements about this subject, while you’re at it…. This not a personal atack on trunthepaige, but to make a point…. Read one just for fun:
     

    Words to Live by…“

    The Constitution exists precisely so that opinions and judgments, including esthetic and moral judgments about art and literature, can be formed, tested, and expressed. What the Constitution says is that these judgments are for the individual to make, not for the Government to decree, even with the mandate or approval of a majority. Technology expands the capacity to choose; and it denies the potential of this revolution if we assume the Government is best positioned to make these choices for us.” — Supreme Court Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, United States et al. v. Playboy Entertainment Group, Inc. 

    Should porn access be banned from public libraries?

    > No!  Now, as far as the imagery in question, Everyone has the right to not look at it all, in all its forms, and Not have it forced on them…. But there are many communities where the net is secluded to more isolated rooms at the discretion of the library in question, but couldn’t the Pornos just stay home, and surf? It’s a thought!

    Peace

     

  • if the library carries pornography in the form of books or magazines, then yes, the library should allow patrons over 18 access to internet porn.

    if the library does NOT carry other forms of pornography, then NO, the library should not grant access to porn sites to anyone.

    you can’t have it both ways > either all porn is banned, or all porn is allowed.

  • Should porn be banned from 18 year olds?

  • yes. Not everyones into looking at porn. Plus its extremely uncomfortable when the person sitting next to you is staring at porn..

  • Of course; there’s no reason for porn to be in a public place. Where in the constitution does it say you have a right to look at porn in a library? That’s right, nowhere.  It’s not “infringing” on anyone’s rights to have it restricted. I would even argue that NOT restricting porn at the library would be a violation of the rights of people (especially kids) walking by who don’t want to see that.

  • YES ABSOLUTLEY!!!

  • If you want to look at porn get your own computers to do it and dont do it at the library where little children might see it.

  • I, personally, think porn should be banned anyway.

  • YES. And to be honest with you, I hate when people say “but it’s constitutional law”….morality has to enter somewhere and I don’t want some 20 year old looking at porn in front of my 8 year old….or my 8 year old getting pop ups from “Madam Kumay’s House of Pleasure”  if he choses to get online in a library…Besides, what purpose is there to looking at that stuff in public except to be able to sit and bitch that it’s your constitutional right….well it’s my consitituional right to not have to view it at the same time, so where is the argument in that (and you know, this is coming fromthe woman who supports porn and strippers LOL

  • Uhm, yeah, it should. Why should the porn addicts come to a public library where kids and families and people who don’t want to look at that stuff are? And why should they get it for free?

  • Yes – ban it!!!

  • Yes – ban it!!!

  • Nope, it should be fair game. It is a public library after all.

  • YES.  Of course.  The computers in our library are adjacent to the childrens’ section.  If someone had porn on a computer screen, it would be visable from the children’s area.  And hiding the computers in the corner sounds no less appealing.  You know, then people would be sending a kid to some scary corner, if they wanted to use the internet.  This is a ridiculous conversation.  Why am I even having it (with myself)? . . .more to do with public indecency, than ‘free speech.’

  • yes, the sicko needs to do it at his own house! if the nasty prick is too poor to get a computer then he can go to a friends house

  • i think they should.

    so anyway, dan, i hope you realize why your email posted with that plug for yahoo at the end (do you?).

  • YES if a person wants to do the porn thing , they need to go out and purchase their own pc and do it at home.

  • yess. i mean seriously go to a PUBLIC -where there’s children- libraby to look a porn, omg seriously get a life.

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    Smilies

  • Good glory, yes!  I don’t want my tax dollars paying for some sleazbag to look at porn.  I’ve dealt with enough of that crap dealing with male people, I don’t want to encourage it.

  • my friends’ cellphones have some sex videos in them..and even though we are nursing students, like they say we have to get used to seeing those private areas and not put malice..it still feels uneasy and uncomfortable. and I already saw this x rated film with my 5 groupmates in duty..and we just shrieked and say,..eww.and it was really really..uncomfortable and disgusting.two of us slept and didn’t even see half of it. in some way i guess it really arouses your imagination. how did i know? that’s a question. just kidding. seriously, we know that we should not magnify some things and yet we do otherwise at times. how much more would those innocent kids do?

  • yes and no. Can’t we have a private section or an adults only section for users who insist on having access to porn? But I sure dont want to see it in public.

  • You tell them “trunthepaige”.  I agree YES.  The Library should not have easy access to porn.  I’m not even comfortable with “adult content”.  If you need it, there are ways to get the information.  But do not do it in front of my kids (grandkids, Now).

  • yes. the library is for research and study not uhm…entertainment.

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