December 29, 2006

  • Saddam Hussein executed

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     Deposed Iraqi dictator hanged for deaths of 148 Shiites in 1982

    TheGreenPanther here one last time, with breaking news.  Saddam has been hanged 3 years after being found in a hole in the ground.

    Per MSNBC News:  The deposed president was found guilty over the killing of 148 members of the Shiite population of the town of Dujail after militants tried to assassinate him there in 1982, during Iraq’s war with Shiite Iran.

    Asked if Saddam were dead, the official in the Iraqi prime minister’s office said, “Yes, the body of Saddam Hussein is in front of me.”

    Do you agree with Sadaam being hanged?

Comments (165)

  • Yes…..but with some reservations that I really don’t know how to put into words.

  • Yeah, but is still saddens me a little.

  • as long as it is minimalized to the least extent possible (minimal publicity and viewership as to avoid greater sense of martyrdom).

  • Hell yeah.

    For what he did, man, was death even a fair punishment?

  • I believe he should have been executed. I have seriously problems with hangings though.

  • “Why do people kill people who kill people to show people that killing people is wrong?”
    & Isn’t it “hanged” instead of “hung”?

  • we kill people who kill people to show that you can’t get away with killing people. if that makes sense

  • Kind of. Events such as these bring to the forefront of my mind the moral dilemma I have with the death penalty that I like to ignore usually. Here’s to being finite!

  • not really. let him rot in a jail cell instead.

  • it takes more than a yes/ no for an answer and more than a passing minute to rationalize such…

  • As far as method, I feel weird that he chose it.  Wait, he did, didn’t he?  I think I read that somewhere…

  • Absolutely not! He should have been tortured…or at the very least had one mock killing!

  • No, I agree with his execution but not the method. I believe that we should have used biological and chemical weapons on him like he did on iraqis throughout his reign.

  • Yes. I think that he deserved far worse. And Czolya brought up martyrdom – interesting point.

  • Not really. It’s hard to say that anyone has the right to take someone else’s life. Saddam didn’t, but neither do we.

  • Yes. And by the way, what’s the matter with saying “first” when you’re the first commenter? Especially if you actually give an opinion in a following comment. Some people get awfully touchy about that.

  • If anyone on earth did, he did. I’m not a fan of the death penalty, but like I said, if anyone…

  • NO DIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    He was a retard!

    KILL THE MAN!!!

    He would be better of dead any way!

    I doubt he is going to heaven though!

  • not at all. he should’ve been tortured first!

  • Politically, the timing seems poor.  But I’m not against the execution.

  • now he’s going to Hell to be with his gay lover Satan! (that’s from South Park if you don’t know)

  • Execution, maybe. Though, I’m more partial to life imprisonment. But hanging, no. Not even for him.

  • Yes, for the most part.

  • Yes, he killed a 13 month old baby…he deserves much more than death. He now faces God for him to decide on his ultimate demise.

  • mooshpitmatt 

    thats what i say

  • Yeah, but I’ll agree with some of the others who mentioned that he should have been tourtured.

    <33

  • No. It doesn’t put us much higher up on the scum-scale of the ones that we kill.

  • The greatest issue I find arising from Hussein’s execution is that people say Hussein deserved more than hanging. However, to act upon such a presumption is to endanger our own morality. A punishment has been handed down because the court that did so believed his actions were without regard to human life and the rule of natural law. Whether this is ethical or not, we do not know. However, we want to say, in a unanimous voice, that actions such as Hussein’s were so far removed from the realm of acceptability that a sentence so harsh is sanctioned. But to say that we should give him worse than the sentence handed down is a betrayal of the morality to which we subscribe that is oft claimed is what separates us from monsters such as Hussein.

  • Everyone says yes. I say NO. Resorting to that level of violence proves that the people that commit crimes under the name of “justice” are equally as stupid and hypocritical as those who commit those evil deads but at least those people don’t claim that it is under the name of justice and fairness.

  • Somewhat. Though I do find hanging rather unusual. I would have thought they’d electrocuted him or some such thing.

  • I think he should have gotten worse

  • Yea, since he killed that many people

    It depends on how you look at it.

    -ALoudSilence

  • yes. though for some creepy, bizarre reason i feel a little bad for him…

    ???

  • greenpanther..you did an excellent job…i especially liked the font change and you had some great posts also!!!

    to answer your question…i feel bad for his soul and don’t agree with hanging.

  • Genesis 9 says that if someone sheds man”s blood then by man his blood must be shed. Romans 13 talks about the givernment being given by God the power to weild the sword. the word for sword there only refers to the type of sword common in executions. So if the government has the God given power to execute, and God says murders should die. I say that we have the two top powers ruling over us giving us permission to execute him. Both God and the government says it is right. who are we to disagree?  Jesus even told his disciples to take with them a sword one of the times he sent them out. I am not sure of the exact passage.

  • I have mixed feelings. Violence begets violence. Where does it stop?

  • No, it feels odd to me for some reason. I feel like the repercussions of the hanging will have much more serious outcomes. Nothing good can come of this.

  • Nope.  I’m in the minority and I don’t care.

  • I think he deserved it.  I think those who follow him will just make him out to be a hero.  I hope we focus on finding the rest of the bad guys now..

  • yep, i just wish that they had tried him for his other crimes too.. would have taken a few years.. lol

  • Nope.

  • It is the law of the land he ruled under… And he had a hand in making that law. As a person who murdered millions, he has to share the same fate of the law that he helped to write.

  • NO!
    In killing him, we’re no better than he is.

  • I am really shocked by the spite of some of these comments. What good would come of  torturing the man? There is a very good reason “cruel and unusual punishment” were frobidden by our Founding Fathers. If not life imprisionment, then a swift meriful death.

  • What do you do for a living?

  • I don’t care if he was hanged or not. He killed, we killed in retaliation, others are killing our troops in retaliation.

    Violence begets violence begets violence begets violence.

  • I don’t really know enough about the situation to pass judgment. I find amusing however the speed with which they executed him after the Americans handed him over. It really serves to demonstrate the insecurity and instability of the current Iraqi regime. Without the Americans there who knows what could have happened, he might have wooed his guards and staged a coup. He was a strong leader executed by the weak.
    Ultimately though, Sadam was put to death by The United States, not by the people of Iraq. Part of this goes back to him invading our oil-buddy Kuwait and demonstrating hostility towards our best friend Israel. Were it not for these greivous breaches of manners, he would likely have remained a favored satrap of ours still in power and still living in palaces.
    Also, he simply happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when the thinkers over at D.C. came up with the idea of The Great Global Holy War On Terror as a means of consolidating power. As a past offender, he became a prime target in the crusade.
    Oh well, R.I.P. Sadam you reckless bastard, oh and enjoy those 72 virgins.

  • I heard about his goodbye message… and it made me realize that behind the animal that he was, he was still very human also.

  • Nobody should ever die. Ever. It proves that Earth is a living hell, a place where the devils wash blood with blood. It’s a more fitting Hell than Hell itself

  • yeah, i do… but man, where did they take that picture of him? he’s got crazy eyes. or something.

  • No, I don’t. I believe that no matter how many people a man has killed, if he is sentenced to death, the people who do the sentencing are no better than he is himself. Nobody has the right to say another person deserves to die and punishing death crimes with another one is wrong and it makes me angry. The death penalty is past it’s time, and needs to be retired. He deserved to spend the rest of his days in prison, forced to reflect on the life he had led.

  • Absolutely not. No human has the right to take another’s life. We don’t even know the reprecussions of his death. There were those that still supported him.

  • I find people’s comments on the subject very interesting.  From what I could tell- Saddam wanted to be shot, and not hanged.  Hanging is what the lowly criminal in Iraq gets, and he wanted the military punishment of being shot.

    The question of do I agree with it… yes, some form of capital punishment was in order.  Hanging, well- that’s Iraq’s way… I agree with us letting them do it their way.  Plus I think it was good that it was not public or anything for the martyr appeal.  Glad to know that is one less crazy dictator running around- fearful of how many more are in training…

  • Absolutely, and I think the Iraqi government made a good decision on this one, even telling the Americans to keep their nose out of it when the “when” part became an issue, lol. As for his execution being publically viewed, that’s a toss up for me. In one aspect it could create some uprising, but hell.. what doesn’t these days? But if they don’t show it – some Iraqi’s have been quoted in saying that they will still fear him because they may not believe he’s really dead.

  • Death is death. Meh.

  • The majority of comment on here seem to say that the decision to execute him was correct but the method was not a good one. My question is why did Saddam or any person on death row deserve to slip into death in a sterile environment with nothing more than the prick of a syringe? Should they not be reminded of the suffering they caused? Another point I would like to bring up to those who say he should have been left to rot in jail. Do you really think he would have thought about what he had done with any remorse? I highly doubt it but could be wrong. Finally, I agree with the way in which the execution was done. I believe someone already said that it cut down on the chances of Saddam being seen as a matyr and I absolutely agree.

  • No, I don’t suport the death penalty. This hasn’t made me change my mind. Hussein wasn’t executed for reasons of justice, but for reasons of politics. Had he stood trial for all the crimes he had been accused of, then American involvement in his regime would have come out. How would that have sat with Bush’s idea that Hussein is bad, Western world is good ? How embarrassing.

    I agree with the person that said violence begets violence. No surprise that the majoritory of people here agree with the execution. What happened to the idea of ‘thou shalt not kill’, or does Christian philosophy only apply when you’re talking about people with differing beliefs to you ?

  • Yes.

  • Frogspawn21 you have your verse wrong it is not “thou shalt not kill” it is “thou shalt not murder”. This change of word changes the meaning completely. If you read the story of how Moses got the 10 commandments the first thing he did after recieving them was kill several of the followers who were worshipping a golden calf.

  • …I am saddened by this.

  • an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

  • I agree I just dont think it really happened. I smell COVER UP all over this mess!

  • Doesn’t bother me.  He killed a lot more than 148 people.  He was evil.   I always think of the victims and that justifies getting rid of the scum that killed them or ordered them killed.  I hope he cried like a baby and begged for mercy.   

  • I thought the trial could have been handled more appropriately.  I’m also not a fan of the death penalty.  However, that being said, I think that Iraq, a government voted into office, has a right to do their justice system as they see fit.  I may not agree with it all, but I agree with a democratically elected government and some form of rule of law as it develops.  I pray that justice will continue to florish in that war ravaged region.

  • I am numb and saddened by it.

    Now all we have to do is find Bin Laden and do the same.

  • So he was hanged for killing a town of Shiites when militants tried to assassinate him?

    Hm.. Yes. Because dictators should have control over their killings. If it were that he killed the ones that tried to kill him, then no. Because it’s justice.

    All in all, killing is bad..

  • “Yes…..but with some reservations that I really don’t know how to put into words.
    Posted 12/29/2006 10:56 PM by pumpkinbreath”

    Exactly.

  • Yes. He killed a bunch of people. I don’t know why his trial had taken so long. Anyway, I want to see him hang. :D

  • My Native culture believes in vengence…. I believe you reap what you sow….’til the next

  • No. “I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good it does is temporary; the evil it does is permanent.” Mohandas K. Ghandi

  • No…
    The whole thing makes me rather sad…
    HELL of a thing to have to happen on my BIRTHDAY! Damn it…

    *Runs and hides*

  • I’m not really sure. But it is probably one of the most significant events of most of our lives.

  • Oh man Dan is gonna be so mad that he wasn’t online when this happened lol

  • Hmm…I don’t think killing the killer justifies the death of the dead, it doesn’t bring the dead back to life. But then again, why set a killer free amongst even more innocent people? It’s a lose-lose situation.

  • everyone says it was a fair trial… but is it fair to hang him strait away without giving him the right to appeal? that doent seem fair to me…

  • Well, Saddam is dead. How are we supposed to feel? There are many people cheering this as a great victory, others are fearing what will happen in return.
    me… well, I am just confused.
    can someone tell me why they felt they had to kill him? What made him in their eyes deserve that? What made him worse then Bush, or Castro, or even Paul (saul)

    Saddam killed people yes (thought I am not sure he ever actually did it himself, his service men did it), well then by that account so does Bush, so did Paul. Paul killed Christians and thought he was serving God.

    I just cant understand how this is supposedly the thing they felt they had to do. So if there would be a civil war in the US the thing that would “need” to be done is kill Bush???
    I just don’t see the difference
    Why is it whenever there is an over throw of power some where the “it thing” to do is “always kill the former leader”
    I just don’t get it.

    I posted these questions on my blog too if anyone wants to give me answers.

  • I am not a death penalty fan. It is wrong to kill anyone. He may have been a horrible man and he was and unjust leader in our perspective, but he was a human being. In the eyes of God sin is sin..wait let me say it again for the cheapseats…SIN is SIN..God will judge us for our actions..and that will be all there is to that!!

  • Now if we were to ask forgiveness for our sin and to take the Lord as our personal saviour then forgivness will abound…

  • No I don’t believe in the death penalty!

  • Yes, for a lot of reasons into which I won’t go.

  • YES! (I never thought it would happen, though.)

  • yes, but i think he killed far more many people than 148, and why didn’t they have him accept the punishments for everything else he has done.

    oh well, i suppose he can only be killed once.

  • Now that he’s been hanged, what do we do? The man had been a dead man walking for years.
    We in the states have a wonderful habit of looking in that rear-view mirror.

  • Yes. An eye for an eye.

  • who knows if they actually did or not…

  • yep

    Xx-Nicole-xX

  • No!  After working several years in the prison system, I am opposed to the death penalty!

  • Not the day before a major Muslim holiday.

  • I agree with the dead part. Hanging was too good for him.

  • It does seem appropriate according to Iraqi law and I guess according to universal moral law seeing that Saddam was found guilty of atrocious murders.

  • The question was raised: Why do we kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong? We don’t. Capital punishment is designed to kill a person who murders to show that murdering is wrong. Anyhow, “we” didn’t kill Saddam, the Iraqi’s did.

  • to whom ever said ‘I doubt he is going to heaven though!’ I’m pretty sure Sadam Hussein ins’t Christian.

  • no.  it makes me want to cry.

  • The kind of person I am, I’ll never be happy at someone’s death. However, I think that he is someone who arguably deserved the death punishment. It’s kind of hard for me to choose sides.

  • I agree with  Xcholo4u - Hanging was too swift!

    Ding Dong – one more wicked dictator is dead!!

  • No, he should’ve been tortured and killed in a worse way then a simple hanging.

  • Not one bit. 

  • Yes, he murdered countless amounts of innocent people.

    Farewell, Sodamn Insane!

  • If he deserves to be hanged, so does bush, and everyother asshole in power.

  • Yes, but it should have been a public execution.

  • No. None of us is fit to judge whether someone lives or dies, because we can’t see what that man can do for humanity in the future.

  • that’s like asking if we agree with iraq’s law.

  • Yes. He killed a ton of people. I’m glad he’s dead :D

                                                                    -KrIsTiN-

  • as a shia muslim, hell yes

  • Several people wrote about the style of execution and that he should have been tortured. Torturing is cruel and unjust, even for a convicted criminal. Execution is reserved for those who have committed serious offenses, in America it is reserved for capital murder, the taking of the life of a government official in the line of duty or committing murder while committing another crime, and treason, and are deemed a danger to society. It is not to show anything to anybody, even though it does.

  • I’d love to agree with it.  He was a terrible man who did terrible things.  But I just can’t…

    It’s easy to look at the Bible, the Old Testament, and say “See?  God says right there in the books of the law that if a man murders another man he should be put to death.  It’s okay.”  But then you look at the New Testament, the fulfillment of the law.  It was also stated in the OT that an adultress was to be stoned to death for her sin.  Yet Jesus forgave the adultress of her sins… he gave her a second chance and a charge to “go and sin no more.”  Murder is just as bad in God’s eyes as adultery.  Why should he offer forgiveness and life for one and condemnation and death for the other?  I’m no proponent of letting murders loose on the street.  There are consequences for our actions, and I’m a big supporter of the life-in-prison-sentence in order to maintain a peaceful society.  But it seems to me that capital punishment of any sort is quite simply murder.

    The world is celebrating because last night a man closed his eyes in Iraq and opened them in hell.  Pardon me if I’m having a hard time being excited over this.

  • eh sure. but i think they should have used a different method.

    but i do feel kinda bad for him. don’t ask me why.. but i do.

  • “If he deserves to be hanged, so does bush, and everyother asshole in power.”

    haha! i agree.

  • Sometimes the moral idiocy I see in the comment section of this blog is very disturbing. But, then is a result of the public “education”, entertainment and media. Perhaps it is because so many of you are very young and have little if any perspective. For those of you who are older…

  • no

  • I’m against the death penalty for anybody, so no. Definitely Saddam was a horrible person who did a lot of horrible things..but I think it’s hypocritical and, does anyone really have the right to end someone’s life, even if it’s a murderer?

  • i honestly don’t think saddam cares.

    i understand what a horrible bitch the guy was, but what does killing him, or others like him, solve? maybe we should try to make them better people before we kill them. heh, i know that’s naive and unrealistic, but you never know.

  • I cant believe people feel sorry for a guy that executed people by throwing them alive into meat grinders!

  • No, but, I don’t really agree with the death penalty in general. Killing is wrong. So, why do we kill someone for killing to get that point across? I don’t know, I just think it’s stupid.

  • I think he should’ve been executed in a far more gruesome way. Being hanged is nothing compared to what he’d done.

    So…I agree with his execution, but I think they should’ve done it in a different way.

  • NO. No one has the right to take someone elses life, no matter what that man did to deserve it. maybe when you look at saddam you see a horrible murderer but that is not what i see. i will mourn for him as i will mourn for the people he had killed.

  • and i think its horrible and hypocritcal that we have just stooped to his level. baah

  • In no way, shape, or form do I agree with Saddam being hanged.

    R.I.P. Saddam.

  • I wish that we could have gotten more answers from him, might have cleared up some spots of concerned. He wasn’t willing to talk. I know that it sounds terrible but he should have been treated the way that he had other prisoners treated and then hung. I was surprised that they did it so quick. Our justice system should learn by this instead of having a man on death row for decades then execute them.

  • No, no and no. I am definitely against it. They are killing him for killing people, for one thing, which I find way hypocritical. And I just don’t agree in the death penalty, especially in such horrible forms as hanging.

  • Yes!

  • No!

    I oppose the death penalty.

  • I think the world is a better place without him.

  • for what i know…he was a maniac…yep he should’ve been killed

  • A life in prison would be a far worse punishment.

    Plus, a life in prison wouldn’t make US MURDERERS, just like he once war.

  • Not at all.

    I think he should just be given life in prison with no chance of parole.

    But then again, I really don’t care what they do with him as long as he’s not a free man.

  • I am surprised at the comments of some that he should have rotted in jail, or worse, been tortured.  Seems to me that is so much worse a punishment, and unjustified.  Torture is never justified; punishment with death is.  Being hanged instead of shot minimized participants in his death and added insult to injury.  OUCH!

  • YES

  • yes……………….but for some weird reason, I’m kinda sad…….. don’t get me wrong or anything, he totoaly deserved it. It’s just sad that the man who caused alot of trouble for everyone is now dead and free from the mess he made. We’re still here living in the crap he left behind. Killing him didn’t help anyone, it just gives us some sense of “It’ll all be better now.”

  • yep

  • Back up the anti-death penalty train. Lets first look at your rhetoric. Your rhetoric (choice of words) in using the murder as opposed to executed means that you see the death penalty as something that is against the law, which in both the US and in Iraq it is completely legal so from a rhetorical standpoint your entire thought process is illogical because you are not thinking in the correct terms. Secondly to those who say that no one deservest the death penalty, ask yourself would you have executed Hitler, if that is a little to unrealistic for you take the person who you love the most and then imagine a person killed them in such a terrible way, tell me then honestly would you want the death penalty. Finally, how dare we, who sit in the position of comfort in the US, who have not suffered as the Kurds have, how dare we assume to judge the Iraqis for putting Saddam to death.

  •  > uh huh! U betcha!

    Pax

  • i think he would have suffered more if he just spent the rest of his life rotting away in a prison cell.

    killing somebody for killing is too contradictory.

    but on the other hand, there is always the fact that he could continue killing people and planning things through his loyal followers if he was kept alive.

  • i agree with having him killed however he is still a human being, another soul lost because he decided to make the choice to tamper with the lives of others and kill them off. The red card that was given to him was indeed symbolic i guess you could call it a taste of his own medicine. its like god said Love thine enemies, its a hard concept to follow sometimes, but we must do what is best for our country and our people and bring some peace to us and especially to the families of the many people whose lives he took.

  • Yes, but not in the manner he was.
    and…on another note how do we “know for fact” that it was NOT his body double? Did someone fingerprint Hussein when the US was dealing him arms or when he came in to power?
    I have some reservations as “I don’t know these things for fact” and because we have been lied to by our governments before.

  • awwww:(

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