January 26, 2007
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Mary Cheney
Mary Cheney is the daughter of Dick Cheney. She has been in the news because she is pregnant. She is also a lesbian. She will be raising the child with her partner.
(Mary Cheney on right).
The Vice President, Dick Cheney, was asked to comment on a statement by “Focus on the Family” while we was being interviewed. Wof Blitzer from CNN asked Cheney if he wanted to comment on the statement released by “Focus on the Family.”
Here is the statement: “Mary Cheney’s pregnancy raises the question of what’s best for children. Just because it’s possible to conceive a child outside of the relationship of a married mother and father doesn’t mean it’s best for the child.”
Wolf Blitzer then asked Dick Cheney if he wanted to comment on the statement. Dick Cheney was upset by the question and said the question was “out of line.” Here is the link: Link
Was there anything wrong with asking Dick Cheney if he wanted to respond to a statement about his daughter’s private life?
Comments (141)
No harm in asking I guess. He didn’t have to comment.
A little, but then again not really. Life is a fishbowl, and Cheney’s been in the game too long not to know that.
its kinda a cheap shot. but understandable
Then again, the question was phrased for crap. They could have asked it a lot better.
no, there’s nothing wrong with asking him to comment, but that statement was out of line. if it were a different statement they were implying for him to comment on, im sure it would have been a different story.
No, but it could’ve been worded a lot better.
Was there anything wrong with asking Dick Cheney if he wanted to respond to a statement about his daughter’s private life?
Given the context of the question– the interest that has been given to Cheny’s daughter and Cheny holding public office: No.
It’s almost understood that holders of public office give up some of their personal privacy once obtaining office.
“Mary Cheney’s pregnancy raises the question of what’s best for children. Just because it’s possible to conceive a child outside of the relationship of a married mother and father doesn’t mean it’s best for the child.”
This quotation, I have a problem with. This is only “true” because it’s illegal for same-sex couples to marry. Friggin’ Bush. -_-
Her name is Mary. What a twist.
Holy crap those two are ungly.
They look a lot like each other too, which I’ve seen to be quite common among the gay.
I think it’s because the individual are, in fact, in love with themselves so much, that they try and find someone who looks/acts/is exactly like them.
Weird.
Know what, dude?
I think you’d do very well on Jeopardy.
EVERYTHING is in the form of a question.
Sheesh.
Kaz
i would not have sex with either of them. that is the real underlying issue here.
God, I hate Focus on the FAMILY.
They’re a bunch of homophobics. . .
Using God to hate. . .
And yes, there WAS something wrong about asking.
It wouldn’t have been asked had his daughter been with a guy would it? ?
Why should you respond to an organization for whom you know is anti- your daughters love?
I’m sure his daughters partner was very lovable. . .if Focus on the family would only take the time to get to know her. . .
but they don’t care about that.
nope…… hmmmm… depends i guess.
They are one ugly couple.
As I’ve said a number of times before. . .maybe on here?
If YOU CAN’T LOVE SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY’RE YOUR SAME GENDER, CAN YOU REALLY LOVE YOURSELF?
I mean, if you say someone is “unlovable, because they have the same anatomy”. That’s fcked up.
Why the heck are people commenting on they being an ugly couple?
Why the h e l l does it matter how they look?
Plenty of woman are married to middle aged potbellied not-so-attractive men. And people don’t care!
Does every lesbian have to be some hot young girls? It’s like. . .guys are okay with that. . .so long as they’re hot. . .
I don’t see what his daughter’s decisions have to do with his position. People are just nosy, and love controversy.
He should be prepared to respond to statements like that – rude as they are, they are gonna happen
I think they’re a lovely couple, since they love one another.
I think LOVE is LOVELY.
I wish I had a lover. . .regardless of gender. . .
Holy crap those two are ungly.
They look a lot like each other too, which I’ve seen to be quite common among the gay.
I think it’s because the individual are, in fact, in love with themselves so much, that they try and find someone who looks/acts/is exactly like them.
Weird.
Posted 1/26/2007 12:25 PM by ncsbert
You talk like they’re a different species that we’re observing. They’re people, too. Humans. You don’t have to treat them like animals.
It’s personally out of line, but I can see why it was asked. If he is going to be a member of a group that is so against what his daughter is doing, it does beg the question, doesn’t it?
His daughter, yeah that was out of line. I can see it now, Mr.Chinton is it true that your daughter is a whore?
Leave family out of politics, it is getting so out of line.
“it does beg the question, doesn’t it?”
Not even a little and that is not the meaning of “beg the question”.
What? They took the spotlight away from Britney for a minute?
it was clearly a setup to try and trap him one way or the other, whatever he said. either answer could have been skewed and presented as the “wrong” answer.
Yes. It’s completely irrelevant to politics.
It sure puts Cheney in a hard position… He would have been called insensitive no matter what his answer would have been.
Well, in this context I mean.
The Bush Cheny administration tried to push legislation to define marriage and exclude gays. As an elected official, Cheney feels like his personal opinons should be kept secret?
Maybe that is the problem. I mean if every piece of legislation is based on popular opinion and no one will take a personal stand on anything, then what is our governing body? What does it really stand for?
WHO WILL SHOULDER THE NATIONAL BURDEN FOR THE NATION TODAY?
I think Cheney should, and answer the question. Maybe he likes lesbians. Also your commenters are wrong, I bet a three way with those two women would be HOT. Dexterous hands and involutary vocalizations galore…
People are entitled to their opinions, and to their choice to comment on them…and also entitled to ask questions like this.
Homosexuality is a big issue politically right now, it’s going to get talked about, the questions are going to get asked… that’s just the way it is. The fact is that many lesbians have kids together, not just Mary Cheney, so FOTF shouldn’t pinpoint this person just b/c of who her daddy is. I think that was an unfair statement on FOTF’s part, and that Dick Cheney should have said something to that effect.
She looks like a man.
Heck, both of them look like men.
And yes, it’s out of line–just like everybody else’s, not just Cheney.
People are interested what Cheney has to say because he has always been so anti gay and has a gay daughter. I would have asked too.
The was a legitimate question.
The fact that he couldn’t answer it in a normal fashion proves that he does not think it is normla nor right.
No, but Cheney also has the right to refuse to comment on something he doesn’t feel comfortable speaking publicly about.
politics and your family are fair-game.
it’s stupid, but it’s true.
No, not out of line in a world where politicians feel free not merely to inquire into, but also to legislate on the private affairs of individuals.
Dick Cheney HIMSELF was out of line by refusing to DIGNIFY his own daughter with an answer to the question
Regardless of how dick cheney feels about the morality of gay relationships, there’s no reason to think that children raised by such relationships are somehow at a disadvantage. I covered this in my xanga at http://www.xanga.com/theologylovers (slowly scroll down a bit)
http://www.xanga.com/Theologylovers/556511931/item.html
No. I don’t think so.
The reporter was asking Cheney if “he wanted to respond to a statement about his daughter’s private life?” Reporters ask worse, and more out of line questions than that. And Cheney could have said
“No, I do not.”
How hard was that? But obviously Cheney has a problem with his daughters lifestyle perhaps? Or that it’s all over the news? *shrugs*
I think Cheney is too defensive.
I agree with Focus on the Family’s statement; however, I find it rude that someone would put a respected public authority figure on the spot like that. I would’ve been tempted to layeth the smackdown upon good ol’ Blitzer…but then again, I probably would just leave the interview.
For someone who is a huge part of an administration trying to define marriage as between a man and a woman, it’s completely valid.
Because it would mean Cheney stepping away from his “anti-gay” status to openly accept his daughter and her choices.
Excuse me. I mean it raises the question.
I just found out this second about the incorrect usage thing. Isn’t it funny how easy it is to take words and phrases for granted – until you use the magic of Google!
For someone who is a huge part of an administration trying to define marriage as between a man and a woman, it’s completely valid.
Posted 1/26/2007 1:35 PM by yet_another_discalceate_hoyden
Well put.
it’s not wrong to ask. If he doesn’t want to answer, it’s his perogative.
It’s HER private life, they shouldn’t have been bothering HIM about it.
cheers,
m
yeah.. dick chaney is kind of a jerk, but that’s a low blow.
Fight Mental Illness Stigma
yes.
It’s a touchy subject, but “no comment” would suffice.
really that shouldnt have been asked if the discussion of topics was politics and then all of a sudden asked person family questions.
So my answer is no
Focus On The Family said that in the movie, Happy Feet, it seemed like one of the penguins was a homosexual and said things that leaned towards promoting homosexuality. I saw that movie in theatres with my 9 year old little brother. Let me tell you..that is absolutely RETARDED. They go way overboard sometimes, and are fighting the wrong battles.. I don’t think that was an appropriate question to ask Cheney, mainly because it wasn’t important.
Nothing wrong with asking. But if the question came from focus on the family it no doubt was condescending and accusatory.
Yes. It’s a question that’s designed to make Dick Cheney look bad no matter what answer he gives. That’s not journalism (as it’s not even trying to get at the truth), it’s a political hit job.
Yes if she was under 18 and he had control over her decisions, but she is living her own life . .let them be . . .
ncsbert, your an insensitive asshole. Dan, i dont know. Tough questions today. First off its his daughter’s life, not his. So it is not really his to comment on, but then being a christian (who are notorious for hating gays) it is a good question…oh well…i say let it be, dont get involved, it really isnt our buisiness either.
Derek
no. Dick Cheney is in the public spotlight, and those people’s private lives and the lives of their close relatives also end up in the spotlight.
did anyone else notice the picture looks like the same person, just with different hair? hahaha.
maybe someone should shoot him?
uhno. im surious as to his views too…
also. what kind of a man doesnt stick up for his daughter?!?!?!
It’s not out of line at all. When you are a political figure, it is already a given that your whole family will be dragged into politics and it is especially interesting when a party like Cheney’s party is flat out homophobic.
It’s his daughter’s private life, not his. Cheney has no right to answer. If the public has these questions and concerns about it, grow some balls and ask Mary Cheny herself.
I think a lot of the questions the media asks is out of line…
Uh-huh- meaning yep.
to ncsbert:
wtf, man? that’s the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever heard.
She looks a little old to be having a baby to me
-Jayne
dick cheney is an asshole that shoots his friends on hunting trips and stabs his family in the back. his poor daughter; her own father won’t even stand up for her. her own father is part of administration trying to stamp out people like her. i feel bad for her.
I guess I would have to wonder why Wolf Blitzer brought it up? Was Cheney on his show to answer questions about his involvement with government issues, or about his family life? I know how I would feel if my mother started answering questions about my life on national television. I know how my girls would feel if I started talking about them. While any one in public office does give up some privacy, it doesn’t mean you have to cave in and answer every little detail about your life. I give him credit for standing up for his own privacy and his family.
uh, gosh! she even looks lesbian! ewww
I agree with deflate, for once. It is kind of cheap. I think in this modern world, where the lives of anybody famous are public property, it’s pretty much to be expected. I don’t think that’s really justifiable. But hey, there are much bigger problems with the world than that.
Why is it (real) lesbians are always ugly?
Yes because it is none of THEIR business.
I think he did kind of answer it. He supports his daughter as well he should.
It’s rude. And family should be left out of politics.
Then again, these questions are going to happen, especially with all the gay rights, &c, so he should have been prepared to answer.
No. If he wanted to answer he would so so.
i agree that the statement is out of line.
I think that it was great that he was given a reasonable platform to respond. It doesn’t appear that he was attacked in any way personally, nor was the reporter actually attacking his daughter. Regardless of his stance of the homosexuality issue – this is his daughter and soon to be grandchild. The whole issue is complex at best. No matter how he would have answered the question directly he would have upset a huge portion of the population. While his answer can be torn apart – come on, what is the best way to answer aside from no comment?
God does hate homosexuality (note i am not saying God hates homosexuals) You can hate a behavior and still love the person… read the Bible….look what happened to sodom and gomorrah. Its a sin….
As far as the couple’s looks its not relevant to the issue or question being asked but since the pic is there they are rather ugly women. Then again dick cheney doesnt make an attractive man either… So genetics unforunately can’t be altered.
>> uh, gosh! she even looks lesbian! ewww
Posted 1/26/2007 3:20 PM by ericvandermolen<<
What a coincidence — I was just thinking that about your icon picture!
But seriously, nobody “looks” lesbian. I’ve seen and known some pretty sexy lesbians..
“Mary Cheney’s pregnancy raises the question of what’s best for children. Just because it’s possible to conceive a child outside of the relationship of a married mother and father doesn’t mean it’s best for the child.”
For Focus, this is actually a pretty neutral statement. As radical of a Christian that I am, I can confidently say that just because a child can be conceived in a heterosexual relationship between two married people doesn’t mean it’s best for the child. This is also a true statement.
Taking it out of the context of gay / married relationships, that is a good question that should be addressed. A marriage certificate is not an indication that the two involved will be the best parents.
Imworkingsoshutthehellup wrote:
>> I agree with deflate, for once. It is kind of cheap.
Yes, just as it was cheap for dick cheney to insult his own daughter by refusing to answer. It’s an attack on her dignity. Silent treatment is what 8 year olds do to their parents..
>> Why is it (real) lesbians are always ugly? <<
How many “real” lesbians have you known?
OJesuslovesyousomuch wrote:
>> [...] While his answer can be torn apart – come on, what is the best way to answer aside from no comment? <<
I think it would have been fine if he had said something along the following lines:
“I love my daughter very much and nothing will change that. But I have reservations about the nature of her relationship — even though I don’t doubt the sincerity of it. As to Focus On the Famil’s concerns… I [insert whatever his opinions are]“
– Pat
No. Big Dick can abstain from commenting if he so wishes.
yes. it’s her PRIVATE life.
Ladyj3 wrote:
>> God does hate homosexuality (note i am not saying God hates homosexuals) <<
I don’t mean to split hairs, but the word “homosexuality” doesn’t actually imply behavior. It refers to the criteria for romantic attraction — the orientation.
>> You can hate a behavior and still love the person… read the Bible….look what happened to sodom and gomorrah. Its a sin…. <<
Genesis 19:5 refers to an angry mob comprised of Hebrew “am’”, which referred to *people* in general (men AND women). And the Hebrew idiom “young and old” would have included children. So the mob was not comprised of males only (and certainly not adults only), which automatically rules out the idea that sodom’s sins included gay sex per se. Finally, the mob’s intent was clearly rape — that is the only way to make sense of Lot’s attempt to *sacrifice* his daughter, which would have been pointless if the mob were trying to have consensual sex with the angels.
best wishes
– Pat
Uptight Cheney.
I would love to see his real reaction to all of this behind closed doors. He doesn’t strike me as an accepting man.
No.
Well, I suppose it would annoy me if I were him. I still don’t see why it was asked, though. And why the issue wasn’t already confronted in the struggle for gay marriage. And if it was, why the reporter was pestering Cheney with it.
No.
AbandonBliss wrote:
>> yes. it’s her PRIVATE life. <<
It WAS, but FOM made it a big public issue. It had already been made into a public issue so any journalist would have had every right to inquire to Dick about it. And Dick had the chance to show integrity by honoring his daughter’s dignity, but refused to do so. The silent treatment is childish — and so is running away from problems.
– Pat
how come the majority of lesbians have the same hairstyle… or am i just seeing things.
haha someone said “It wouldn’t have been asked had his daughter been with a guy would it?”
NO! YOU BONEHEAD! That’s the whole point of the question! hahaha so funny.
At any rate, isn’t Dick Cheney the guy who shot someone in the face? I don’t think I’d be asking THAT guy ANY questions!
NO. He advocates direct opposition to gay marriage and the Focus on the Family is a group that supports him politically that question was fair game…
>> At any rate, isn’t Dick Cheney the guy who shot someone in the face? I don’t think I’d be asking THAT guy ANY questions!
Posted 1/26/2007 4:25 PM by This_Is_Important
lol!
I think this is the first time EVER I have seen you make a typo. Wof instead of Wolf.
No.
In response to Theologylovers comment “which automatically rules out the idea that sodom’s sins included gay sex per se. Finally, the mob’s intent was clearly rape — that is the only way to make sense of Lot’s attempt to *sacrifice* his daughter, which would have been pointless if the mob were trying to have consensual sex with the angels. best wishes”
Sodom’s sins were beyond just gay sex I am sure but if we want to split hairs lets look at the word of God
Sexual impurity is a JUDGEMENT FROM GOD, not from Satan, nor anyone else, but from GOD Himself!
Romans 1:26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Homosexuality is, according to the Word of God: “shameful”, “unnatural”, “indecent” and “perverted”.
Homosexuality is, according to the Word of God, A JUDGEMENT FROM GOD HIMSELF.
What is the penalty for their perversion, for unrepentant homosexuality?
DEATH in HELL, as is the penalty for ANY unrepented sin.
28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Nothing could be clearer! God’s JUDGEMENT on homosexuality extends past their depravity into … wickedness, evil, greed, envy, murder, strife etc etc etc .
Make no mistake. We are ALL sinners. We ALL have to seek by God’s grace His forgiveness, which includes REPENTING of our sin – repenting means to turn away from that sin. In respect of homosexuals, we are commanded to love them as much as we love ourselves by preaching the Gospel to them so that they may be saved. We cannot stop a homosexual from coming to church – that is where they are supposed to hear the Truth. We are supposed to love them, encourage them and help them in every way we can…. TOWARDS REPENTANCE AND SALVATION.
Ladyj3, thank you for the response. I’d be very happy to discuss Romans 1:18-32 with you, but first I want to know if you still think sodom’s sins included gay sex per se. You wrote:
>> Sodom’s sins were beyond just gay sex I am sure <<
You still seem to think that gay sex per se was among the sins of sodom. But why? We’ll get to romans in a bit, but first I want to make sure we’re on the same page with Sodom. How can you take God’s condemnation of attempted rape by a mob comprised of males and females of all ages as a condemnation of all gay relationships? That’s a huge leap in my mind.
– Pat
I’ve always thought the media has gone to far into the personal lives of well known people and their families.
Leap as you will but bewareof the rocks…the men didn’t know at the time they were angels… they simply wanted to knock down the door so they could have sex with the male travelers staying at his house… so let me see… mob wanting to have sex with what they thought were men. sounds like gay sex to me.
Ladyj3, you seem to have deliberately overlooked what I actually wrote.
>> Leap as you will but bewareof the rocks…<<
No worries… I have a parachute
>> the men didn’t know at the time they were angels… <<
Actually, the angry mob didn’t know the that the strangers were guests. And again, the angry mob was comprised of males AND females of all ages. The mob was not comprised of men only.
>> they simply wanted to knock down the door so they could have sex with the male travelers <<
No, they (the males and FEMALES of the mob) wanted to *rape* the male guests. Lot knew that his guess weren’t being given a *choice*, and that’s why he tried to *sacrifice* his daughters. Trying to sacrifice his daughters would have been pointless if the mob was trying to have consensual sex with the guests.
Also note that even IF the mob’s intent was consensual sex, and even IF the mob was comprised of adult men only (which is demonstratably false), it still would have been a massive *orgy* in public in front of children. There’s no way to use a condemnation of that as a condemnation of gay relationships per se.
– Pat
oops, I mis-wrote something. I wrote:
“Actually, the angry mob didn’t know the that the strangers were guests.”
Replace “guests” with “angels”. My point is that it was an angry *mob* (and a mob with men and women in it), not a small group of men looking to get laid. And again, it would have been gang-rape, and not consensual sex behind closed doors
His personal life may be an issue, but his daughter’s is not. It seems very inappropriate.
To the person who called Focus on the Family a hating organization, may I please share a different perspective? I don’t see that comment as hateful, but rather an expression of their POV. Surely we can all share our perspectives without calling it hatred or calling each other names. When you write:
God, I hate Focus on the FAMILY. They’re a bunch of homophobics. .
You are doing exactly what you say you are against. Don’t you think?
I smell religious overtones!
Leap as you will but bewareof the rocks…the men didn’t know at the time they were angels… they simply wanted to knock down the door so they could have sex with the male travelers staying at his house… so let me see… mob wanting to have sex with what they thought were men. sounds like gay sex to me.
Posted 1/26/2007 5:03 PM by Ladyj3
I thought you were doing the leaping?
Hey I am a republican and a Christian but not a support of gay anything although I don’t hate them or think God does either. Is my sin any less then theirs?
If the vice present is so proud and supportive and excited then he should be able to answer the question, defend his position and not be insulted. He can disagree morally and still love is dd and new gd. But don’t be offended when you are a public person, you have the responsibility to answer fair questions and back them up with your beliefs. He is in public life…..and his dd lifestyle is not in keeping with his political party, he can’t just ignore that.
who would care if your gay or not why dose it even matter why cant pople just get a life and stop worrieing about other pople they are going to do what they want when they want and yes that is a fuck up ?
I don’t see a problem with asking. Who cares? My question is WHY WHY WHY OH WHY do people accuse people of being “homophobic” – a psychological disorder – because they have a problem with people being gay? What does thinking something is reprehensible and abominably evil have to do with being afraid of it? I think it’s wrong to molest children. But I don’t have pedophilophobia, now do I? Ugh…
Yes there is something wrong with the question and focus on the family’s comment. Mary Chaney is not a politician nor a public figure and should not be brought into a public debate. There are plenty of gay couples to comment on who are public figures; talk about them not her.
The question was about DICK, not Merry.
And the question is not whether it was appropriate but whether it was wise to ask such a question to the dickster. From what I know of our VP, you’ll likely be exposed for being an undercover CIA agent, or maybe 0one of the “family” will drop by with a message, such as:
“say hello to my little friend!” Don’t f#ck with the VP or he’ll f*ck you up!!!
That question is a bit personal. Is it really worth having your career ruined or your legs broken?
nothing at all wrong in asking. its his JOB. he didnt say so do you agree or anything. as a matter of fact, he was giving him the opportunity to defend her. if i was the daughter, id be hurt that he didnt. the question was in NO WAY out of line. it was very open ended and he couldve answered it any way he wanted, but chose to be a coward and dodge it completely.
the question was in NO WAY out of line. its his job as a reporter to ask. it was open ended and he couldve chose to defend her or answer any way he chose and if i was his daughter, id be hurt that he didnt. instead he dodged it completely and took the cowardly way out.
stupid xanga the comment wasnt there a minute ago and now theres two!!!!!!! grrrrrrr
sheesh, even rosie isnt that manly.
its not wrong to ask, because it IS his daughter… but it’s still not their business
I don’t think he should have put Dick Cheney on the spot. Mr. Cheney doesn’t have any control of what his daughter does with her life. It’s no ones business but hers.
First of all, Dan, I heard the exchange and Dick Cheney was not upset. He did not raise his voice, he did not lambast the Blitz, he was calm, cool and collected like Dick Cheney always is.
The question was highly inappropriate and it was out of line. Mary Cheney is Dick’s daughter for crying out loud. So on national TV in front of the enemy (media) Cheney is suppose to lamblast his own daughter? The only reason the Blitzer asked the question is to cause a controversy and Cheney knew that. If Cheney were a Democrat the Blitzer would never have asked this question.
There is no such thing as a private life these days.
I wonder how his daughter feels about the administration right now and their views.
It’s his own daughter dude, his own daughter! Ridiculous. His own daughter, and he can’t admit she’d be a good mother, basically. Sick.
Uh, no. I mean, seriously, he’s a “Christian”, with a pregnant lesbian daughter. I’d be surprised if Focus didn’t ask or say anything about that. I’m sure he would’ve as well. Besides, he obviously wasn’t forced into responding, so what’s the big deal? Just because he’d rather not answer doesn’t make it wrong.
no.
Yeah, kinda.
But he probably knew it was coming…
yes i think its crossed the line, if its your familees private life then yes. i mean, how pissed and uncomfortable would you be if a stranger who is going to post evrything in the newpaper came and asked you why your sister is whore, wouldnt you be wanting to punch him or her in the face?
What and interesting family! I admire them both ( the Cheyneys-dad and girl) for living such a high profile life, and managing it so well so far. It must be very challenging for all. Well? Why not ask? He is in SUCH a public responsible office.
NO problem with his refusal either. Just certainly interesting. God bless us every one.
Its a fair question,(insensitive, but fair) because Mr Bush and Mr Cheney have both admitted to being Christian men who do not support gay lifestyles/marriage…The question was meant to embarrass Mr.Cheney, and to put him on the spot (Typical political maneuver)… It worked. He should have said that He loved his daughter, regardless of her life choices…
I kinda feel sorry for him- How hard it must be to love your child, and hate the way that they live or the choices they make… It reflects on the way that he has done his job as a parent, and a CHRISTIAN parent, at that…Must feel awful to be caught in such a position.
As far as the Bible goes… Yep! It says that Homosexuality is an “abomination to the Lord”. But it also says that if we commit one sin- we have committed them all…Most Important- It says that it is GOD’s job to do the “judging”… (We all fall short of God’s expectations for us.)
Wait, Dick Cheney’s daughter is a lesbian, but they don’t support gay marriage? God, I hate my government.
Yes.
The fact of the matter is that Dick Cheney and George Bush have risen to power because of the support of those conservatives who happen to love Dr. Dobson. Cheney is in quite the predicament here. If he says anything in support of his daughter, he is ostracizing the very voters who helped him get his office. If he says anything in support of Dr. Dobson he is ostracizing his daughter. He is damned either way; however, the more noble action would be to once and for all speak out. I think Cheney supports/loves/accepts (pick your verb) his daughter, but he does not necessarily agree with her actions. A parent can do both–God does it to us all of the time. That is what love is. Unfortunately, Cheney’s silence on the matter does nothing to help his daughter or himself.
Oh. And to answer the actual question–Blitzer’s questions was responsible journalism, and he should have pushed for an answer. Smoothing it over was a bit more irresponsible.
Where are the tough journalists today?
Oh. And to answer the actual question–Blitzer’s questions was responsible journalism, and he should have pushed for an answer. Smoothing it over was a bit more irresponsible.
Where are the tough journalists today?
He had the right to ask, and Cheney had the right to tell him he was out of line.
He should expect to have questions like this asked; he is after all the vice president. Ah, life in the fishbowl. Isn’t it great?
Wow, does Mary look like her dad, or what? LOL.
I would have liked to have known the answer, though it is Dick’s right not to comment. Even with all my problems and issues with “fatherhood,” I would still hope that Dick would see the daughter he loves and support her relationship and her desire for a family.
And I agree with PacifismPlease; I’m stupified by all the comments about their appearance. Get over yourselves and we’ll all be better for it, okay?
I dont’ necessarily think so…politicians have their private lives exposed all the time.
First–that vid is genius!
2nd: yes, personal business is supposed to be, well, personal.
No, journalists are supposed to ask probing questions. But there’s nothing that says Cheney has to answer. I would have asked the question myself, but if I was asked, I wouldn’t answer.
faerieshadow wrote the following:
>> I don’t see a problem with asking. Who cares? My question is WHY WHY WHY OH WHY do people accuse people of being “homophobic” – a psychological disorder – because they have a problem with people being gay? <<
First, you phrased that question in a very general way. IME, most of those who use the word “homophobe/homophobic” don’t use it to describe people who believe that gay relationships are wrong. Instead, again in my experience, the word is usually used to describe extreme behavior and attitudes. Second, homophobia involves not just fear, but an irrationally elevate level of aversion when exposed to anything associated with homosexuality. It’s a matter of degree. I don’t know you well enough to describe you as homophobic, BUT what you wrote below could be viewed as reflecting an irrationally adverse response to homosexuality:
>> What does thinking something is reprehensible and abominably evil have to do with being afraid of it? I think it’s wrong to molest children. But I don’t have pedophilophobia, now do I? Ugh… <<
Notice what you just did. You described homosexual relationships as “reprehensible and abominably evil”, which seems like an overkill of a description, but then described CHILD molestation (which can have devastating and PERMANENTLY damaging effects) as simply “wrong”. Why didn’t you describe child molestation as “reprehensible and abominably evil”? You patently showed much more aversion towards gay relationships than towards destroying the lives of children. That is itself reprehensible and a sign of an irrational (or excessive) response to homosexuality, which could fall into the category of “homophobic”.
Finally, I am rather offended by your use of “ugh” – as if you have it so bad when people (mistakenly??) call you homophobic. I think you need to get over it. Try being harassed for your sexual orientation, having societies stigmatize you over the fact that the person you love as the same kind of genitals as you, and have people describe your loving and good-fruit bearing relationship as “reprehensible”! THEN you can say “ugh” with any credibility.
– Pat
faerieshadow wrote the following corrections to me:
>> RYC: first of all, nowhere in my comment on Dan’s site did I say whether or not I personally shared the veiw that homosexuality is reprehenible or abominalbly evil. I thought someone might assume that. Anyway, you also seem to assume a lot of other things about me that cannot be assertained from my comment. The comment was carefully worded so that 1. It did not reaveal my sexual orentation 2. It did not say how I personally feel about gay individuals 3. It did not say I feel attacked when someone uses the word homophobic 4. It points out the correct definition of the word (fearful of that which is having to do with one gender only, most commonly, sexual relationships) “Ugh” is my expression of how I feel about ignorant people who use the word “homophobic” incorrectly. I feel that it is completely ridiculous and unfair to imply that someone has an “aversion to” or “fear of” something, simply because they think it is evil. Reguardless of whether I myself share the sentiment. Another thing you seem to think, based on your comment, is that I am not constantly, daily, ridiculed and persecuted for my sexual orientation. <<
I’m grateful for the correction and felt bad about the confusion, but tried to explain my confusion. I replied to her with the following (and I’ll quote myself with arrows):
>> Thanks for the reply and I’m sorry for misunderstanding you. Your corrections were most refreshing. I did *assume* those things, yes, but I think anybody else would have too. You seemed to have worded it in such a way as to imply personal annoyance — as if YOU were called homophobic. And you left no indication or hint that you were quoting anybody else, and you still chose the overkill description for gay relationships that you didn’t apply to child molestation. I’m not trying to argue with you, of course, but please understand where I was coming from. But I do feel bad for getting it wrong. My apologies.<<
Just to further clairfy, please notice what else you said:
>> I think it’s wrong to molest children. But I don’t have pedophilophobia, now do I? < :)
Also, the definition of “fear” is not the only “correct” definition. Again, aversion need not mean fear, but also excessive repulsion (in some cases accompanied by nausea). Psychologists recognize that homophobia might not involve actual (or at least conscious) “fear”. It’s the degree of repulsion that matters. IF someone has a stronger adverse reaction to gay relationships than to child molestation, as I thought you did, then THAT would be homophobia. The word has evolved. It’s not simply about viewing something as “evil”, but the irrationally elevated response. Stealing money and murder are both evil, but if I think that stealing money is somehow far more reprehensible than murder than that would be an irrational response to theft. Does that make sense? Likewise, many (but not all) people who view gay relationships as “evil” also have an irrational averstion to such relationships that can’t be justified in any way.
Again, I made the mistake of not understanding you. But I don’t think what you wrote was “carefully worded” at all, especially since you didn’t leave a single qualifier. I mean that as contructive criticism
best wishes
– Pat
oops the above didn’t come out correctly. But anyway, no matter
Wait until Dick Cheney finds out the father is Barrack Obama!