February 26, 2007

  • Jesus

    A little controversy is being made about a tomb that was discovered. 

    The Christ Family? In Talpiot, a suburb of Jerusalem, a tomb ossuary reading 'Maria,' in Hebrew was discovered near an ossuary reading 'Jesus, son of Joseph'

    A few people are claiming it was the grave of Jesus.  Here is the link:  Link

    James Cameron, the director of the movie Titanic, is claiming that he has proof that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and that they had a son called Judah.  Here is the link:  Link

                                           

Comments (112)

  • That is such B.S.!!!

  • I think claims like these are ridiculous.

  • I’m so sure. Sure- we’re going to find the tomb 2007 years later. Oh and sure we’ll find proof of a marriage and anything else that helps people decide that Jesus was not God. He is who He says He was- but the doubters will always be around trying to stir up trouble.

  • wha??? that’s crazy. I would think that something as important as Jesus being married would be in the Bible. Besides didn’t the Bible say something about it’s better to not be married so you can do God’s work? But if you must get married, it’s ok…I’m not sure exactly what passage that’s from…

  • That is very interesting…interesting in deed.

  • Why does James Cameron always get credit for making Titanic? That movie blew balls.

    What about Aliens, Terminator, and T2?

    Now what were you saying? Something about Jesus?

  • Oh, please. Whatever.

  • uhhh ok….

  • JESUS’ TOMB DISCOVERY IS TITANIC FRAUD
    “Titanic” director James Cameron and TV-director Simcha Jacobovici are claiming they have evidence of a Jerusalem tomb that allegedly houses the remains of Jesus and his family. Commenting on this is Catholic League president Bill Donohue:
     
    “Not a Lenten season goes by without some author or TV program seeking to cast doubt on the divinity of Jesus and/or the Resurrection. Last April, NBC’s ‘Dateline’ featured the wholly discredited and downright laughable claims of Michael Baigent, and two years ago ABC treated us to a special that questioned every aspect of the Resurrection. Now we have the Cameron-Jacobovici thesis.
     
    “Israeli archeologist Amos Kloner was in charge of the 1980 investigation of the tomb that Cameron-Jacobovici have seized on 27 years later to make their allegations. ‘The claim that the burial site has been found is not based on any proof, and is only an attempt to sell,’ Kloner says. He adds,  ‘I refute all claims and efforts to waken a renewed interest in the findings. With all due respect, they are not archeologists.’ Indeed, Kloner has branded their claims ‘impossible’ and ‘nonsense.’ Moreover, he says there is ‘no likelihood’ that Jesus and his relatives had a family tomb. ‘It makes a great story for a TV film,’ he concludes.
     
    “Joe Zias, who spent a quarter-century as an archeologist at the Rockefeller University in Jerusalem, said that ‘Simcha has no credibility whatsoever.’ Zias isn’t shooting from the hip: Jacobovici’s credibility explodes when one considers that he still believes the 2002 tale about an ossuary with the inscription, ‘James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus.’ On June 18, 2003, the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) condemned this claim as a modern forgery—this was the unanimous decision of a 15-member IAA committee. Agreeing with this decision were Harvard’s Frank Cross and Tel Aviv University professor Edward Greenstein. 
     
    “The Discovery Channel aired the 2002 hoax and now it’s back with the Titanic fraud. It’s time the Discovery Channel discovered ethics and stopped with the sensationalism.”

  • How…interesting…another person who thinks the Da Vinci Code is actually non-fiction.

  • lol wtf?

  • ok….did anyone see Titanic… and yeah i know its the highest grossing movie ever… but that movie sucked….

  • That’s amazing. All the people who are saying omg thats crap, or whatever… did you read the damn article? Sheesh. People are so quick to dismiss without bothering to open their minds for just a moment.

    Personally, I think that’s amazing. The evidence seems to add up, which makes the find quite remarkable. The issue seems to be that Jesus was married– and I don’t really understand why that would matter either way. It makes more sense for him to have been married, as he was such a wonderful man. What a catch! Men like that can’t stay single.

  • Of course, I’m not an archaelogist, and I don’t know anything about this find except what the article says, so don’t come spam me with whatever anti-messages you all want to spread.

  • Not that I really care, but I want to know why is it important that Jesus was or was not married? It doesnt take anything away from him (in fact, I think it makes him a better, more humanistic man). I just dont understand what is so wrong with him being married as still being the Son of God.

  • There can’t be a burial site with bones of Christ or of His mother, they were both assumed physically.

  • Yeah I read about this and very few serious archaeologists believe in it.

  • Whatev.

  • What else is new? Archaeological discoveries are not going to change my faith.

  • The article ruined it for me when it mentioned the Da Vinci code. And the fact that it sounds like an ad rather than an actual investigation by a serious historian or scientist.

    If it is the actual tomb, which it may be, that’s wonderful. I mean, really, it is a great discovery. I just don’t like the names James Cameron and Da Vinci Code put into it.

    I’m not a Christian, but I think this is using people’s beliefs in Christianity to gain $$$.

  • Okay, maybe someone can explain this to me… What difference would it make if Jesus was actually married and had children? Would it really have that significant of an impact on modern day Christianity?

    Personally, I think this claim is unbased. To say that they “have” to be married since they weren’t related by blood was ignorant. Think of all the other possibilities. Arghh….

    What a load of BS.

  • I don’t understand what the big deal. God is still God when he had a son… Why isn’t Jesus just as godlike is he had a son?

  • Being married and having children is not  a sin.  I think these claims are unlikely but either way it would not have affected His divinity

  • I read the whole thing and I’m still in disbelief. I hate how this hollywood director is trying to stir up so much controversy over Jesus and having a son which is absurd

  • That is a gingerbread house. Duh.

  • “What of Christ’s body?” you may ask. It is true that Jesus, who is God, assumed an earthly body when he was born of the Blessed Virgin, and that this body, now glorified, continues to exist. But since the Lord only took on human flesh in these “last days,” and since God has always existed, without beginning or end, we must still conclude that having a body is not part of God’s unchangeable nature: he exists in eternity as pure spirit, even though he chose for the Son to also take on a human nature in addition to his bodiless, timeless, divine nature.

    Are those of you who ask why Christ cannot have children, suggesting that we have half-god/half-human descendants of Christ running around?!?

  • Of all the things that have been said about christianity, this is not the worse I’m sure.. that’s why it’s called faith!

  • oh boy. No. Stop now. Titanic was inaccurate in some places, so why believe James Cameron?!

  • If Jesus did have a son then what about his son? do Christians some how have to worship this guy, did he perform miracles? I doubt Jesus had a son at all because people would definitely start worshiping his son after Jesus’s death

  • The proof had better stand up to all the test that science and historians can devise, otherwise this bold claim is going to have alot of red faces to it. I like to believe a simpler lie: Jesus was a politician.

    ’nuff said…

  • The only people who believe this theory are James Cameron and the movie director.  None of the archaeologists involved think that the theory is even plausible.

    I wish people would take the time to read…

  • THAT BASTARD STOLE THE PLOT OF MY NEXT BOOK!!! I’ll sue is ass!

    Hey, it may be working for Baigent and Leigh.

  • ohemgee jesus had sex lmao?

  • “That’s amazing. All the people who are saying omg thats crap, or whatever… did you read the damn article?” ~ Twist2daRav3n

    I read the article this morning, actually. I know a crock of manure when I see one.

  • Looks like the house Hasel and Gretel went to.

  • That’s simply ridiculous! Jesus was clearly into beastility alone. Enough said.

  • Proof? Seriously people will do anything for attention!
    I bet he drops a new movie in about a week.

  • People have taken this Da Vinci code stuff too far… it’s just a book, and a mediocre one at that. I think Cameron is just bored and running out of good plots.

  • Non-scientists inventing “scientific” processes so they can prove something that they are obsessed with proving no matter what it takes? I think I will wait until some real scientists use real science to evaluate the evidence and see what it tells us before believing this stuff. I especially find it disturbing that we are just hearing about this 27 years after it was discovered. If that alone fails to raise some serious red flags about this “evidence” then one only needs to go on to the fact that it was collected haphazardly by people who were being rushed.

    Whether this is real or not does not affect my beliefs. Jesus was resurrected but that only means that his remains would not be in the tomb that they were originally laid to rest in, they still could have been laid to rest after he died a second time. I do not believe that Jesus was married but it is very possible that he could have been as getting married is not a sin and having a kid while married is not a sin.

    Nobody was mentioned in the article who has no agenda with the evidence and unless someone who is agendaless looks at the evidence we cannot come to an accurate establishment of what it tells us.

  • I always pictured His tomb as being a small cave that only went back like 15-20 feet and had to be crawled through

  • i think it’s a publicity stunt. the davinci code got SO much publicity for being controversial, and even though this isn’t the same, it’s along similar lines. so i think it’s just a career move.

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  • James Cameron? Really? How the heck did he get it?

  • I’m being sarcastic of course. I doubt anyone has the so-called “proof” everyone’s been searching for.

  • I’m being sarcastic of course. I doubt anyone has the so-called “proof” everyone’s been searching for.

  • You can do one of two things
    1 is you can close your mind up to EVERY possibility that what you believe may not be 100% true, and never grow spiritually on that front.
    2 is you can accept new ideas, criticize them, and learn from them. Your religious buddies will declare you a heretic, and you will face rejection in your own community…but you might end up being smarter than them anyway.
    I’m not close minded about the possibility of Jesus having a wife. I think it’s a definite possibility, and actually a probability.
    Now pardon me while my Christian friends declare me stupid, arrogant, and blasphemous.

  • From the atricle…

    “However, the archaeologist who oversaw the work at the tomb described the theory as ‘nonsense’.

    Amos Kloner said the names found on the coffins had been found in tombs before, adding: ‘It makes a great story for a TV film, but it’s impossible.

    ‘Jesus and his relatives were a Galilee family with no ties in Jerusalem. The Talpiot tomb belonged to a middle-class family from the first century.’ “

  • oh… and 50th by the way

  • So what if he did?  Wasn’t the first commandment given to man, “be fruitful and multiply?” This would just be keeping a commandment, would it not? If in fact he did then a certain passage in Isaiah would make sense to me. Personally, I don’t think it’s very relevant to anything we know about his teachings, or his divinity. James Cameron is just trying to make money, who can blame him right?

  • haha Dan. I love how you appeal your posts to a conservative audience everytime. I can just see you sitting there watching people duke it out and knowing you made the fight uneven.

    first of all, there is no question in this post. second, who gives a shit whether its his tomb or not, what the hell difference will it make to anything.

    for marry magdeline; get over it. why would it matter if jesus were married or not? if we all follow christs example i sure hope he was married, otherwise jesus condones a dieing civilization.

    I dont see how any history that we discover today from the bible, aside from pure historic history, has anything to do with religion.

    I mean really, if we found proof that Jesus had kids and was never crucified, would the Christians care? would they just shrug it off as false testimony? that the end times are closer?

    None of this matters.

    Derek

  • haha, reading these comments, everyone just completly proved me right. go me. Take stabs at the director, take stabs at the people who discovered it, take stabs at anything to save your God that you have no proof exists. Its all faith.

    All Faith.

    Again, I say, what the hell does it matter what we find if its all faith?

    Derek

  • So? Just because Jesus may have been married and had a kid isn’t going to change my faith. Its not like Jesus is any less real or holy.

    Silly Titanic man.

  • Wow.

    I don’t think I believe it, but wow anyways.

  • Ridiculous.
    Absolute rubbish.

    Movie director, eh? I guess he’s just sick of the dry spell.
    Though Jesus WOULD have been just as capable to get a son. He was born from a woman, he could also have a son. Big deal.

  • Ah, thank God! This’ll finally shut up all the idiotic Christian supremacists!

  • To add. I really don’t think it’s true… but isn’t it fascinating to think about anyways?

  • 1. Who cares?

    2. Who cares?

  • It’s important that Jesus not be married because His Bride is the Church (see Revelations 21), and if he WAS married that would throw that whole thing off.

    Poor James Cameron. He doesn’t realize that this has all happened before (in fiction anyway). There’s a fiction book called Skeleton in God’s Closet where someone claims to find the bones of Jesus. It all turns out to be a fraud by the end, as this one will.

  • Can we get some proof on the Loch Ness Monster and BigFoot?

    Yea, thanks..

  • “Be fruitful and multiply” was a command given to Adam and Eve.  That is not binding on anyone today just like the OT Law isn’t binding on anyone (unless you’re a Jew, I guess).

    I doubt Jesus’ family would be buried in a tomb in Jerusalem since they weren’t from there.  His burial was a last-minute thing that took place in a borrowed tomb.  Regardless, finding the tomb he was buried in changes nothing really.

    “Following Christ’s example” doesn’t mean doing everything he did.  You can “follow Christ’s example” in regards to his moral and spiritual life without speaking Aramaic, living in Palestine, and being physically crucified.

    The Bible isn’t explicit on whether Jesus was married or not.  However, were he, it’d be almost ridiculous that we aren’t told such or couldn’t at least figure it out.  I would think doing so would be irresponsible of him since he knew he was going to die anyway.

    Wow, should I listen to the archaeologists or a film crew?  Whose motives seem purer?

  • do you know how many times this has happened? its just another fad.
    give it a few months and it will die down.

  • Jesus Christ is the Son of the Living God, it was not His purpose to come to earth to marry or have children. He came for one purpose: to die for the sins of those who believe in Him. Jesus was fully God and fully man during His time on Earth. There are so many reasons for this basis in theology, and it goes back to the beginning of the world. Jesus had to die to set men free from their sins. Nothing was going to deter Him in this purpose, He knew only He was the acceptable sacrifice. Holy, without any blemish.
    I love archaelogy, I love ancient history that goes back to the grains of time, but this is just disappointing. It doesn’t poke a stick in my faith, but it sways others who are unsure about Christ. Or it will make less strong Christians have a deformed view of Christ. One thing Christ never was, was earthly father and earthly husband. There was no purpose for this, and it does not measure up to what Christianity really is.
    The Discovery Channel twists things very badly. They are rarely consistent in their views in ancient history. History is never being re-written, it is being re-analyzed way too quickly.

  • Jesus’ brother was named Joseph > it is more likely that Mary of Magdala married HIM and they had a son named Jesus in honor of the Crucified Jesus. The Judas, son of Jesus, would then be the great-nephew of the crucified Jesus. A family would have to be wealthy to afford a tomb, and there is the biblical witness that Jesus was anything but wealthy.

  • From the article:

    “…all the names on the Talpiot ossuaries are common. Charlesworth of Princeton Theological Seminary says he has a first-century letter written by someone named Jesus, addressed to someone else named Jesus and witnessed by a third party named Jesus.”

    “The names on the boxes were common in the first century (25 percent of women in Jerusalem, for example, were called Miriam or a derivative).”

    Not from the article, but nevertheless relevant.

    “If Christ is not raised from the dead, our faith is in vain.” –Paul

  • There’s no way to prove it.  Personally, I believe Mary Magdalen and Jesus were involved with each other, but there’s no way to prove that either.

    On the flip side, there’s no way to prove God exists…

    Controversy.  Meh.

  • I suppose anything’s possible. Though, I’m certain there were other men named Jesus. It’s just a name. It could’ve been anyone’s tomb.

  • I suppose anything’s possible. Though, I’m certain there were other men named Jesus. It’s just a name. It could’ve been anyone’s tomb.

  • it’s not the question of marriage or lineage that gives me issues with this story > it is the fact of Jesus’ resurrection from the dead. we know that Jesus existed as an historical figure (thank you Josephus), and all of the first hand accounts of his life and times indicate that he rose from the dead. there would be no bones to bury, so the explanation that does the least violence to the oral history is that the bones were the nephew of Jesus, and that Judas was the nephew’s son.

  • I doubt he is correct, but hey — what does it matter if the son of God got married and had a kid?

  • *laughs*

    Who cares if Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married and had a child. WHO CARES!? It’s not a sin and it’s not like Jesus wasn’t built with the capabilities of producing children. He was only born from a human. And the tomb, again, WHO CARES!? Finding his tomb isn’t going to prove or disprove anything and it’s definitely not going to make you holy. Big woop.

  • Right-o. Sounds pretty interesting, eh?

    “Archaeological discoveries are not going to change my faith.”

    Good for you! Don’t let proof and evidence sitting right in front of your eyes change what you want to think off of a hope there is a supreme being.

    RIGHT-O.

  • if it was really all of that, they would have come forth with this info 20 years ago. However, this hasn’t stood up to peer review, but it makes for great TV!

  • Well I have proof that Tom Cruise is an Alien, and Katie Holmes is just a pod person that was grown in a hydroponics lab by Cheech Martin

  • ok everyone, even christians should know that jesus is not god. that’s retarded. he was a historical figure. but even if this bogus “revealing” was true, what does this really say? are people gonna look at this dead body and wait for him to be resurrected?? its not saying anything about religion at all. nobody is denying that jesus was a real person ><;; find some evidence of god and then we’ll talk.

  • It’s not Jesus’ tomb. (Wasn’t that a borrowed one, by the way?) It was discovered over 30 years ago, if I’m not mistaken. Why are we just now figuring this out?

  • Mmm. Some more quotes from a different article. Seems the guy who did the excavating of these tombs says it’s all hype.

    “But Bar-Ilan University Prof. Amos Kloner, the Jerusalem District archeologist who officially oversaw the work at the tomb in 1980 and has published detailed findings on its contents, on Saturday night dismissed the claims. “It makes a great story for a TV film,” he told The Jerusalem Post. “But it’s impossible. It’s nonsense.”

    Kloner, who said he was interviewed for the new film but has not seen it, said the names found on the ossuaries were common, and the fact that such apparently resonant names had been found together was of no significance. He added that “Jesus son of Joseph” inscriptions had been found on several other ossuaries over the years.”

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1171894508893&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  • Jesus, Mary and Joseph were very common names in Palestine in 30 AD. If you believe in the Bible’s account of Joseph and Mary’s poverty, a private tomb for them would have been out of reach. If you believe the biblical account though this is obvious for what it is, a director who has an anti-Christian agenda and wants to garner support for his movie.

  • “ok everyone, even christians should know that jesus is not god.”
    Posted 2/26/2007 4:53 PM by uhohishkaze

    Hate to break it to you, but thinking Jesus is God is pretty much the definition of “Christian.”

  • Who does James Cameron think he is, anyway? An archaeologist?

  • Well I see quite a few posters have already pointed out what I was going to post about this family is a Jerusalem family and Jesus, the Son of God, is from a Galilee family.  These names were very common in that area during that time.  Just like Mohammed is common now.  Just look at the terrorists.  Almost every one of them has a Mohammed in his name.  Wow! 

    Plus the main archeologist does not agree that this is the “Jesus” and has labeled that theory as ”nonsense”.  Plus the fact, Jesus’ tomb has already been discovered a long time ago.  So with all these “facts” why would TV execs go ahead and air this crap?  Think about it.  I know the reason, but I’ll let you think on it.   James Cameron has an agenda.   What is that agenda? 

  • The articles make the claims sound dubious at best.  The overwhelming logical and historical support of the Biblical model won’t waver at all in the face of such claims.

    Since the tomb was, according to the article, vandalized, why don’t we try a more logical scenario:

    Since procuring the body of Christ would immediately have ended all the claims of Jesus’ followers, and since the opposition in the first century could do no such thing, the opposition of either the 2nd or 3rd century vandalized a cave and put the inscriptions on the boxes.  This was their belated attempt to “prove” His resurrection a hoax, but it was patently false and didn’t even cause the slightest blip on the historical radar screen.

  • For those of you eager to quote Donohue et. al….
    I have read your excessive quotations and am not impressed. It would be one thing if you extrapolated with some of your own thoughts on this matter but you did not. I am afraid I must reveal your hypocrisy. Claiming that the Discovery channel is unethical is a little severe in this case. I can only assume you are a member of the Catholic church; with this assumption I say the following: Your “quotegument” fails in that you expect these researchers and archaeologists to posses and present fact and proof. You are eager to deny such reports and turn away from these stories based on their lack of fact and proof. Tell me how would you respond to somebody asking you to prove that God even exists in the first place. Your only PROOF is the mass production of a single literary work that mentions him and the existence of institutions to promote religious thinking. Where is your proof? That wouldn’t fly in the scientific world. You quoted multiple sources in this blog, but you only need one source for your perspective on the world and your spirituality? I personally don’t buy the idea that the bible counts as multiple sources as the contents of said book have been altered throughout history to suit those in power (often times one man). I mean no offense to you personally, I just feel your (and others’)attacks are unwarranted. It seems to me if you were truly faithful then you would not be threatened by such stories. Some of us who are faithful in things beyond that of literal translations of religious text have learned that it is OK to welcome new ideas and explore with a creative and theoretical mind. I recommend you study the history of religion, esp. the dark ages. I further recommend you study the concept of ‘thought stopping’.
    Furthermore, religion is often used to make money. Lets be honest with ourselves here. Buy any vials of Holy Water off of the television lately?
    We cant discredit somebody just because they stand to make money on their idea. This is a capitalist society.

    [The author of this response is too lazy to make a Xanga account and is using his girlfriend's, all responses should keep this in mind. Thanks.]

  • Who knows? Many Christians don’t want to believe it, because it would make the bible wrong, and ultimately put a huge crack in their religious structure, but as a non-believer, I think that it’s a definite possibility, but it’s difficult to prove of course, being that it’s been around 2000 years since it happened. I really don’t care one way or the other, honestly.

  • Keep in mind that the leadership of Israel is Jewish and doesn’t believe in Jesus. They would just LOVE to be able to produce proof that the historial Jesus wasn’t the Jesus of the Bible. So if this archeological “discovery” were that proof, we wouldn’t need anybody from Hollywood to tell us about it twenty years after the fact.

    Several commenters have said that some people want to believe in Jesus so badly that they’ll close their eyes and mind to proof that goes against what they want to believe. But I’ve seen the same principle work the other way even more often. Some people who want to DISBELIEVE the Bible so badly that they’ll swallow anything hook, line, and sinker if it gives them “evidence” to point toward as “proof” against the Biblical claims.

  • If it is true… that would be the end of christianity as everybody knows it!

  • ooh. O.o

    ahh, i’m a copy cat. mmkay. sorry.

  • The names on those burial containers are commonplace names for that time. Even “Jesus” wasn’t an unusual name. I highly doubt there is any real connection.

    I think it’s just a stunt to make money.

  • I hope so.  People really need to wake up. 

    And I do hate the Da Vinci’s Code being brought up.  There has been so many writings and pieces of art saying that Jesus was married.  And somehow’s he’s getting all the credit for it.

  • Guess what? At a Jewish museum a few months ago I saw Jesus’ ossuarie. As well as Mary’s and Joseph’s. You know what else? 2,000 years ago, Mary, Joseph, Jesus, Judah, those were all very common names! I mean, I know different people that have the same first and last names, how easy would it be for people with those names to be in the same families? Especially since those names were like John Smith, and they didn’t even have last names there.

    Furthermore, the Bible is close to if not the most credible book on earth. Much more credible than some movie guy.

  • ok everyone, even christians should know that jesus is not god. that’s retarded. he was a historical figure. but even if this bogus “revealing” was true, what does this really say? are people gonna look at this dead body and wait for him to be resurrected?? its not saying anything about religion at all. nobody is denying that jesus was a real person ><;; find some evidence of god and then we’ll talk.
    Posted 2/26/2007 4:53 PM by uhohishkaze

    You want some evidence? Like I said ^, the Bible is more credible than your high school history book (in fact, a good deal of your ancient history is taken from the Bible) and there are 2 major evidences of Jesus being God.

    1) The many prophecies He fulfilled. Things like being born in Bethlehem, but also being called a Nazarene, and being called out of Egypt. His parents’ journey’s allowed this unusual fulfillment of prophecies. He was born of a virgin, He was pierced without breaking a bone, He went through Jerusalem on the colt of a donkey, I could go on and on, but He fulfilled prophecies over a hundred years old that would be literally impossible for any man not of God.

    2) All the miracles He performed. Making blind men see, lame men walk, healing the sick, casting out demons, and the even more amazing ones like raising Lazarus from the dead after 4 days, and raising several other from the dead, and Himself. Not to mention the saints who had been for who knows how long coming to life when He died.

    PLUS, there are things like Jesus being the last sacrifice and predicting the Temple being destroyed within His generation which meant that sacrifices were no longer needed because He was the ultimate sacrifice. Guess what? The Temple was utterly destroyed in 70 AD.

    Does that sound like an ordinary man to you?

    And the reason He couldn’t be married was because it would contradict scriptures’ account of things and Jesus was God, which would mean part of God walks among us today.

  • Whenever this controversy is aired, why does no-one ever remark that Jesus informed us “ye are gods”?

  • “When people do not believe in God, it’s not that they believe in nothing… it’s that they’ll believe in anything.” G. K. Chesterton.

  • I think its another idea that’s soon to be dismissed at more evidence is found. What’s more scary to me is how some people here don’t realize how big a significance it is if Jesus was married/had kids.

  • Oh brother. Are we really believing James Cameron, the dude who made Titanic, about the history of Christ and other archeologic discoveries? Please.

  • that’s b.s.

  • I thought jesus was transended and left no dna

  • too much crap.. tsk..

  • I’m not all that into religion (mainly due to christianity’s refusal to believe that Jesus Christ was actually a MAN, not a god himself– he had to have faults and flaws, people! But its not just them– every other religion tends to godify their main person as well), but if this man is saying that Jesus was in-fact a real man with humal faults and human limitations, then I am willing to listen to him for a bit.

  • I think that we are going to see more and more challenges to our faith in Christ as the world rolls along its way to judgment day. I think Jesus sort of suggested that the imposters and Christ haters would be around. Peter felt that the scoffers would also show up. It is hard to know just how to challenge these not too sutle attacks on faith in the risern Lord and Savior. Let’s hope this backfires and causes many to read the scripture themselves and become true Believers.

    Frank

  • If the entire tomb itself isn’t staged and a hoax, I don’t really care either way if it was the tomb of Christ.  And wasn’t it said in the bible that he was sealed in a cave?  Please feel free to correct me on this if I’m wrong.

    But, back to the tomb.  If it’s NOT fake, we can still learn fantastic things from it, about the people who built it, who was buried inside it (if in fact anyone was buried inside it, or if the body was stolen for riches.) But as I type this, I realized how depressing it would be to find out if the supposed tomb of Christ was really just a food storage facility.  Rofl.

  • Oh, and about Jesus having kids and being married.

    I just have one question: If it WAS proven that he had a wife and children, would this take away from the larger message of his teachings?

  • Sorry for all the comments on this… It just occurs to me AFTER I click the submit button.

    If the man that was Christ had a wife and children, shouldn’t that endear him that much more to his followers?  Because, despite the wide gulf of time seperating him and his followers, he had a family to worry about, so he wasn’t as far removed from the norm.  And people will follow someone/something they think is within their grasp and understanding.  Ja.

  • I don’t believe it I love what someone said on CNN last night about how it is so interesting that every time around lent and easter someone pulls a deep dark anti-jesus story out of the closet. I don’t care what is said. I know the truth, I stand on the truth and no one can change my mind.

    Tiffany

  • I don’t understand how in the world they used DNA testing when they have none of Jesus’ descendants’ DNA to compare it to…

  • OK, so as someone studying archeology and forensic anthropology… this study was doomed from the beginning!  Basically it’s just as several others have said – nothing but journalistic sensationalism with very little scientific backing.  For example, DNA testing can be very innacurate when there are multiple people or bones in contact with each other – contamination is very common!

    But let them theorize I suppose… that’s the thing I love about truth – you can send it through the ringer, and if it’s really true, it will still be the same on the other end.

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