March 17, 2007

  • Cheating Husband

    Now that Hillary Clinton is showing that she is going to run for president, some of her critics are coming out and reminding the public why they shouldn’t vote for her.

    I was reading an article that was talking about some of her flaws but it really appeared to me to focus on the flaws of her husband.  In fact, it mentioned that her husband was still cheating on her since he has been out of office.  (I am not sure why a man who cheated before he went into the presidency and during his presidency would suddenly be expected to stop cheating).

    But as I read the article, I was having a hard time understanding why the fact that Bill Clinton was cheating on her, would hurt her politically.  That makes him a dog.  And it just makes her married to a dog.  It doesn’t say anything to me about her politically or personally.  People can say she is just staying married to him because of her own political ambitions.  But I am not sure where they get that from.  I guess it is a convenient punch at her. 

    In the article, I read stories presented as fact that Hillary would act out in anger toward her husband.  Those stories indicate it even came down to her throwing things at him.  I couldn’t help to think this must be normal for a woman who was cheated on.  I am not sure why this would hurt her politically.  Here is the link:  Link

                                                                              

Comments (82)

  • One needs to wonder about her level self respect. I have kept not one that has cheated on me. Unfaithfulness is not forgivable. I don’t understand her

  • I agree with trunthepaige regarding self respect. You would think that she would have taken time to try to take care of things at home. But the fact that she hasn’t really addressed those issues show that she’s more concerned about her career than her family life. Although people don’t talk about family as much as they used to, it’s still damn important, and when people ignore family outright, it reflects very, very poorly.

  • i probably wouldnt vote for her.

  • They were scraping the barrel on that one.

  • I agree with seedsower.

    Her relationship with her husband is between her and her husband.  They’d say the same damned thing if she did throw things at him so who cares.

  • sigh. she should have walked away a long time ago.

  • If anything, she might do better if she divorced him.

  • Of course, when a strong, wildly intelligent, driven woman is around there must be something wrong with her. Anything…please…oh conservative, patriarchy, where are you? She will be getting my vote not because I’d like to be buddies with her, but because she is who I would like to have in charge.

  • i also agree on the self-respect issue–this couple in the white house would once again not uphold the integrity of such a position, regardless of switching titles. i think how she deals with her husband’s actions count for something, but there are multiple reasons why i wouldn’t vote for her in addition to all this…

  • Strong my ass, she is a wimp. No man could do that to me. I am by far a stronger woman that she will ever be.

    Vote for her for other reasons, but strong and self reliant she is not.

  • She’ll destroy the liberty of every American whether she’s married to a lying horn-dog or not.

  • if she lets some cheating scum bag walk all over her..what about other political leaders? she’s just still married to him because of the last name

  • I agree that it should not hurt her politically. Like you said, if she’s married to a dog…then she’s married to a dog. That has nothing to do with politics.

    I think people are so concerned with her personal life that they forget she has common sense.

  • meh, its an ad homien (am i right on that??) attack. they have nothing against her being president, just her husband. shows that these people arent intelligent in my opinion

  • I think people are so concerned with her personal life that they forget she has common sense.
    Posted 3/17/2007 12:16 AM by streetlights_flicker

    Common sense would have forced her to pull over and deal with her husband a long, long time ago.

  • If Bill has to cheat on her, it must mean there’s something wrong with her (it’s her face)

  • I think people are so concerned with her personal life that they forget she has common sense.
    Posted 3/17/2007 12:16 AM by streetlights_flicker
     
    How much “common sense” does she actually have?  She stays with a man who cheats, and disrespects her and their family… How can I justify voting for her? If she cant even keep her own  family in order, what business does she have running an entire COUNTRY?
    Personally, any woman (or man, for that matter) who stays with a cheater is STUPID… and has no self respect.

  • That’s actually a cute picture of them

    wow….did I just say that?

    I need sleep!

  • Dude, live and let live.

  • Only in America. Britain’s history is full of cheating husbands and their wives. Heck, Britain’s history has some murdering husband’s. Our concern is the person’s ability to run a country–not how they run their bedroom.

  • p.s. let us not forget they are children of the 60′s and 70′s who just may not have an actual hang up over cheating. Not everyone holds to our moral standard of what is acceptable. We don’t know whether it bothers her or not. She may still be bra-burning for all we know…

  • Whatever…I don’t like either one of them…..In fact…I don’t like any politicians….except maybe Giuliani….MAYBE…

    Candy

  • Our concern is the person’s ability to run a country–not how they run their bedroom.
    Posted 3/17/2007 12:32 AM by Krissy_Cole

    hahaha… it doesn’t look like your politicians are doing much better than ours.

  • And if she divorced him there would be an equal or greater number complaining because she was a divorced woman.  THEN… I think some people are complaining that she is not divorced because they would really like to be able to complain that she is and she hasn’t cooperated by divorcing Bill.

    Regardless of the state of the marriage, the two of them appear to love and respect each other. Each is probably the other’s best friend. I would imagine that most marriages would have difficulty making the same claim. They appear to be working around the problem of the infidelity. For some powerful men it can become a sickness. So, if she loves him, why not work around it.

  • Republicans will do anything to keep Hillary out of the Whitehouse. Especially using her husband against her. And yes, I think it is normal for a woman to throw something at the cheating husband.

  • I wouldn’t have voted for her anyway… But that person is a disgrace to all journalists

  • Im very against a woman president.

    What if she just starts pmsing and all of a sudden wants to bomb England?

    Its not that Im against women its just that im against women that are in charge of men.

    Women can lead women. Men can lead men and women. BUT women cannot lead men.

    yeah

  • exactly. i know a lot of people that groan every time they hear her name, and when i finally questioned a few on why she is so disliked, they said that mainly it was because of her cheating husband. um, what?! makes no sense to me. he cheats, she suffers? stupid.

  • To me, if she will tolerate her husband breaking his vows, she’s more susceptible to tolerate things that may not be good for the country.

  • Regardless she’s just not electable.

  • Logically his behaviour shouldn’t affect her chances. But sexual morality is confused in every other erea, so why not in this?

  • it would hurt her politically because she can’t even do her job as a wife right..see chris rock for reference

  • you know i think that it would really abnormal if she didnt get angry and throw things at bill. therefore the press is only pointing normal reactions.

  • No, I would have to say, Hilary’s cold hearted bitch face hurts her politically.

  • Maybe she just belongs to a generation that married for life. 

    I think I see bunny ears in the coffee beans above the cup.


  • She’ll destroy the liberty of every American whether she’s married to a lying horn-dog or not.
    Posted 3/17/2007 12:07 AM by Soultender

     
    Hahahahahahahahaha
     
    AND George Bush, Father of the “Patriot Act” and destroyer of the balance of power in the three branches of government, is preserving and protecting it?????
     
    hahahahahahahhaha
     
    You suck.
    MAJOR SUCKAGE.
     
    But not as major as George Bush Jr.
     
    Wake up and smell the phosphorus, babies.  George W. Bush is the anti Christ (or something DAMN close)


  • Im very against a woman president.

    What if she just starts pmsing and all of a sudden wants to bomb England?

    Its not that Im against women its just that im against women that are in charge of men.

    Women can lead women. Men can lead men and women. BUT women cannot lead men.

    yeah
    Posted 3/17/2007 1:18 AM by davidsheets

     
    I learned a new word.  The word is MYSOGENY.  DAVIDSHEETS is it’s poster child.  It’s the gender version of racism.  We are in the 21st Century, dude.  Not the Victorian age. 
     
    I think it’s especially funny saying that she might pms and bomb England.  What the fuck was Georgie boy doing when he suddenly decided, “What the fuck?  Let’s bomb the shit out of Iraq, even though they (A) didn’t have a fucking thing to do with 911 and (B) had no weapons of mass destruction and (C) were just minding their own business.
     
    Rock on Cesar Chavez.

  •  
    If Bill has to cheat on her, it must mean there’s something wrong with her (it’s her face)
    Posted 3/17/2007 12:20 AM by PSUnited1

     
    Dude….look in the mirror.  People who live in glass houses…..


  • I think people are so concerned with her personal life that they forget she has common sense. Posted 3/17/2007 12:16 AM by streetlights_flicker   How much “common sense” does she actually have?  She stays with a man who cheats, and disrespects her and their family… How can I justify voting for her? If she cant even keep her own  family in order, what business does she have running an entire COUNTRY? Personally, any woman (or man, for that matter) who stays with a cheater is STUPID… and has no self respect.
    Posted 3/17/2007 12:26 AM by aj_mudd

     
    And we can tell what a sterling family life GWB provided his twins because they are such moral Christian….drunken whores…Of course, the apple don’t fall far from the tree.

  • It seems a long time since politics was distinct from private life.

  • I cannot understand women who stay with cheating husbands… regardless of the time or place they are from. If you don’t think you deserve better, or that you should be respected in any measure… why should anyone else?

    I do understand why people say it’s part of her personal life and shouldn’t be regarded as a reason why she shouldn’t be elected. But how many times does your home life spill into your work life, depsite your best attempts to leave it at the door? It’s not as if there’s a switch you can use to stop it from happening. Everything is linked whether you want it to be or not.

  • Why are we just picking on Hillary? It appears to me that both Democrats AND Republicans seem to have a difficult time keeping their pants on!!! Americans can talk about “morality” all day long, but actually having some (morality)…good luck. We’re a pretty sick bunch overall.

  • If I cheated on my wife, I would not be worried about her throwing anything at me. I would buy a bullet proof vest.

    Frank

  • I agree with others that she seems to have no self-respect to stay with a loser horn-dog like Bill.  If I was her, I’d be throwing things, too, but then, he wouldn’t be around that long – she has no strength or character to stay in a situation like that.  And yes, family life does spill over into work at times, even when you try to keep it out.  She doesn’t show good decision-making ability on that one – wouldn’t want someone like that running the country.

  • I think people see it as an metaphor. If she can’t confront her husband, how can she confront leaders of the world?

  • When it comes to political campaigns, people will fight tooth and nail to keep the other side out of power.  They’ll dredge up anything they can if they think it’ll give them any leverage whatsoever.

    I think that’s pretty lame.  I think a failure of a wife or husband can still be an effective leader.  I think someone who has rotten apple kids can still be an effective leader.  I think the guide should be their past political record.  However, I think someone’s personal life can give insight to the way he or she operates.

    I’m fine with someone who gets cheated on forgiving their partner and moving on.  I think it’s admirable.  I’m not big on the other spouse continually engaging in affairs.  And as far as them being best friends and loving and respecting each other, I’m going to have to express a lot of skepticism on that point.  A lot.

  • You said that you don’t think Hillary staying with a cheating husband doesn’t say anything about her “politically or personally.” It may or may not have anything to do with politics, but I think it says alot about a women who stays with a man she knows is cheating and has cheated on her for years. Personally I would have kicked my husband to the curb the first time he cheated. I have a relative who has stayed with her husband even though he has cheated on her repeatedly. She puts on a strong front and says she stays with him for the kids, but she is really a very insecure person who is afraid of being alone. For Hillary, maybe it is a marriage of convenience at this point for her political career, or maybe she is really insecure. I don’t know. But I do know that it is a very strong personal statement to stay with a man who everyone knows has and is cheating.

  • I don’t care if her husband cheats, I think she’s a skanky ho herself.

    NAP

  • They might be afraid that she’ll throw things at them if they don’t vote for her.

  • “If Bill has to cheat on her, it must mean there’s something wrong with her (it’s her face)”

    dude. no.

  • i could not respect a woman who “stands by” her cheating man.

  • I don’t think her personal relationship with Bill will effect her politically, her problem is that she is too polarizing of a figure. The Dems are better off to choose someone who has a chance of swaying some of the religious republicans. 

  • If anything, it means that she is loving and forgiving. I’m not a big fan of Hillary (or Bill) but it seems silly using Bill’s indiscretions against her.

  • We all need to get out of these peoples’ lives. How about Winston Churchill? Thomas Jefferson?

    The media will do anything to spoil a person’s reputation.

  • Her husband’s infidelity shouldn’t hurt her politically. But that’s in a perfect political system, we have reality here.

    I think there’s a saying about not being able to seperate your private life from your work. If only I could think of it.

    ryc: I did that. But I’ll try again, maybe it’ll work today.

  • Ha! To the contrary, I think it shows she’s not a woman who would take any attack lying down!

    Go Hillary!!!

  • i don’t think i would vote for her anyway, so it’s not an issue for me

  • Conservatives….

  • ERASE THAT!- Republicans…

  • I dunno. Hil seems like a good candidate, but then again, if she’d win, the Muslims would think we are mocking them because we’re letting our women run our country (sure we don’t care, but it has a lot to do with their culture), and that would make them very mad, and I couldn’t deal with this war progressing.

    Plus, She’s Pro-Israeli which is not good for me, then again who isn’t in politics.

  • I wonder if people would be against her keeping Bill if she were, say, a conservative Republican, or maybe, not herself running for office. I think it does show a certain strength of character (or of will) that she choose not to break up her marriage over his infidelities – hell, I wouldn’t be able to do that myself, I’d kick his ass and then kick him “to the curb”… and don’t think I haven’t warned the Better Half about the plummet in value his life will take should he ever do that to me. Even if she did do it for purely political reasons – well she must be made of steel. Because those betrayals must have hurt very much.

    I mean, if she divorced him, then there would be complaints – and I’d imagine they’d come from the same quarters – that she’s a divorced woman and what does THAT say about her character? Either way, she wouldn’t win. Not exactly fair. She handled a very humiliating situation with a lot of grace, and in my book that makes her look better, not worse.

  • They’re just trying to make her seem like a hormonal overly emtional person prone to unduly outburst and lots of crying. Basically the stereotypical “woman”. Low blow that one. If you want to discredit her.make some mention of her policies you dissagree with.

  • uh… while i think that bill clinton has done some bad husband deeds, i still think he was a good president. he was a good president that made bad personnel life decisions.

    anywho. go hilary clinton! 1st girl president!

    and uh. she also needs to divorce that cheating scumbag of a husband. (i never said that he wasn’t a cheating scumbag =))

  • it’s probably because they/we don’t know too much about her?

  • Dan, sounds like you really don’t know much about Hillary Clinton except in her relationship to Slick Willie.  Where were you during her tenure as co-president?  And is that legal she can run again when Slick and Hillary gloated that to vote for him you got her too as a co-president?    However, Hillary has her own baggage to carry around and I am not referring to her thunder thighs at this point, but real socialist baggage. 

    Hillary Clinton was first lady of my state for 12 gawd awful years.  Arkansas is a small state so you always run into someone who knows someone else you know.  I, in fact, have friends who have had personal dealings with Hillary Clinton.  I mean face to face dealings with her.  One is a private investigator, who is a family friend of ours, who she tried to hire to follow Slick Willie around to find out about his “other women”.   He declined by the way because Slick Willie had already tried to hire him to follow her!  He declined Slick’s offer also.  He told us that there was no way he wanted to deal with those two.  This is not a joke, Dan.  This is a fact.  The stories I could tell you about these two would curl your hair! 

  • Hillary Clinton claims to be a socialist. Do you know what a socialist is? It’s a communist. Go look socialist and communist up in the dictionary. Communists want the government to control everything.

    I want Hillary to run! Into a lake.

    Have you heard about the new bumper sticker for both Democrats and Republicans? It says:

    RUN HILLARY RUN!

    The Democrats put it on their rear bumper. The Republicans put it on their front bumper.

  • I don’t think that anyone has the right to try to judge why Hillary has stayed with her husband even though he continues to cheat on her.  I don’t think you can make a snap judgement and say, “Oh, she must have no self-respect.”  No one has any idea what is really going on in their marriage except them (and maybe their therapist, if they have one).  Furthermore, it’s not anyone else’s business what’s going on in their marriage.  The media really needs to stop making this ad hominem attack the main focus. This has nothing to do with her ability to lead the country.  That said, I don’t plan on voting for her.

  • “That makes him a dog.  And it just makes her married to a dog.  It doesn’t say anything to me about her politically or personally.”

    —She is supposed to be this big feminist Dan. Feminists don’t stay. They don’t stick with a man that doesn’t deserve them. Of course, in my opinion they deserve each other. It is a character attack, but don’t they do that to Bush when they call him Hitler?

  • i would not want a president that doesnt have respect for herself. because if she doesnt have respect for herself than how could she have respect for all the people in the country.

  • Because.  Because if it doesn’t look good to the public, it’s bad for her.  And the goal of this stuff is to make is not look to the public.

  • I can add giving personal life a wee bit of thought in selecting a president, but I do not think that Bill’s infidelities should be given so much power. You can’t control someone else 100%, so why should she suffer for her partner’s choices. We do not know what is going on in their relationship, and I don’t think we can judge it. For all we know, they may now have an open relationship (though I doubt it).
    Whatever the personal, judge her on her own actions and policies, not what happens in her marriage or in the bedroom.

  • I am confused as to why she is still married to that cheater…

    Hillary has many flaws; why even mention her husband? Bill is the least of her problems.

  • I won’t be voting for her.  I think in many ways it shows an unwillingness to stand up for what is wrong.  Granted, I think you should do everything you can in your marriage to keep it going, but Bill Clinton has constantly shoved his deeds in the face of his wife (sorry, I think) and she doesn’t seem to do anything about it.  Maybe she has been to a counselor.  Maybe he has???  I don’t know.  I DO know that I want someone in office who is willing to stand up for what is wrong – whether it be for crimes against people half a world away, or for the infants being killed through the act of abortion.

  • yeah that really is just a low blow.

  • she is no no no vote!!!!!!!!

  • We don’t know what goes on behind closed door’s, so we should keep our mouths shut.

    As for her ability to govern, she’s as capable as anyone else, I guess. It just comes down to the name you like and the face that comes with it.

    ’nuff said….

  • about her common sense – well she has some good ideas, and she has been trumping them loudly. i would prefer to obama cause he’s a bit too religious for my taste, and i would prefer anyone to a conservative republican. i don’t know who said that she’d distroy america’s liberties, but i dissagree – this administration has made mincemeat out of our freedom and any republican government will continue to do so. sadly, now its the big government liberals who are more supportive of our liberty than the conservatives… liberal big government means welfare and taxes, conservative big government that we actually have menas pointless spending on unworkable initiatives (no school left behind being one) and huge spendings in security and military with an emphasis on controlling the populace… reminds me of fascisma nd communism a bit (not that its nearly as bad, but when the govrnment employs people to spy on their own neighboors and records domestic phonecalls – i think that’s a bit much)

  • Well some control-freak women find it a weakness in her that she hasn’t left him. 

  • I agree with you. It’s just natural for the public to find something wrong with a strong candidate like Hillary Clinton. Her husband’s problems are not her fault and if she did divorce him then she’d be under fire for divorcing.

  • well she can’t very well go thru a divorce right now. that would hurt her in terms of her more “conservative” constituents. regardless of her cheating dog of a husband. anyway, i’m not voting for her anyway…sooooo…i really don’t care.

  • ok, i see what you mean by the whole “him cheating doesn’t say anything about her”, but to me it kinda says something about her personally… if it was me, i wouldn’t dare let a man walk all over me like that… just b/c you have a penis doesn’t mean it’s okay to stick it wherever you want… she seems kinda weak to me, b/c i don’t believe you should ever be a person that lets everybody walk all over you, especially your husband…

  • I certainly think that it shows her character, that she stayed with her cheating husband.

    Even after she was nationally humiliated, she stayed with him. Even though the whole country knows that he continuously chooses other women over her, she is still married to him.

    Why?

    You’d think if she was such a strong woman she would have the strength to say “Enough is enough, if you don’t love me I’m out of here.”

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