March 21, 2007

  • Target

    One issue that has been in the news is how the Muslim population is growing in Minnesota.  This has caused organizations to struggle with issues of adaption to the Muslim faith.  For example, some Muslim cabdrivers refused to drive passengers if they had alcohol on them. 

    The next issue that made the news was some Muslim cashiers that worked at Target refused to ring up pork products.  The Muslims felt that running the bacon under the scanner would violate their religious belief.  Target quickly allowed the people to serve in other positions in the store. 

    John Gibson interviewed a man named Omar Jamal.  Omar Jamal is the executive director of the Somali Justice Advocacy Center.  Jamal said, “under the Civil Rights Act, I think companies and work areas, someone could be accommodated reasonable for a person’s religious beliefs or practice without undue harm.”  Here is the link:  Link

    Should a cashier be fired if he/she is unwilling to ring up some of the products in the store?

                                                                             

Comments (140)

  • Yeah, if you can’t do the job right why apply for it?

  • no. put them in  a different position.

  • hm…im muslim and i think its thats all nonsense. its traget thats selling the pork not the cashier herself and she’s not eating it or condoning eating pork. AND the cabbie, he didnt serve the alcohol. sure it must be a hassle dealing with drunk fares but thats part of his job. i dont think it interferes at all. i dont think anyone should be fired BUt theyve got to deal with it. 

  • Absolutely. They’re there to serve the customer. No one’s asking them to eat the damn pork, just sell it.

  • This is like that morning after pill thing.

  • Don’t you have to make reasonable accommodations to religious beliefs? But I think that is a little ridiculous, not to ring up the pork products.

  • My favorite food is alcohol-soaked bacon.

  • Yes. Would they allow Christians to not scan porn movies or something else that Christians might object to?

  • Yes. If you can’t do your job………. you don’t deserve to keep it.

  • The cute cute Muslim high school girls who work the register at the grocery stores in Jackson Heights Queens pick up swine meat with a plastic bag. They never actually touch the dirty meat…

    Oh they are so cute those girls. I think there should be more muslim/athiest dating to show that we are all pretty much the same…

    Mmmm, Iraqi 18 year olds are so cute.

  • Management reserves the right to refuse service, not the employee.  If they don’t want to scan the items, they should find a job somewhere where they won’t be offended.

  • My favorite food is alcohol-soaked bacon.
    Posted 3/21/2007 8:39 AM by AristotleForDummies
     
     
     
    heheheheeehee  LOL   best answer so far!!!

  • Yes. Not wanting to ring up something like pork is ludicris. If you can’t do a job because of you religion, you shouldn’t have applied for the job in the first place. If you’re going to work at Target, you’re probably going to have to ring up some pork, it’s common sense.

  • Nah, just don’t be a cashier for a grocery store. If I was really uncool with giving people con-dams and the like, i wouldn’t work in a pharmacy. If you work at one of those jobs, maybe the floral department.

  • If a Christian was working at a gas station and wouldn’t ring up alchohol or cigarettes they’d be fired…

  • I think if the company can find a place for them or find a way to accomodate them then great. But ultimately if their religious beliefs means they can’t fully or adequately perform what is required by their job then they can’t do it and it is legitimate for the company to fire them. To me this is very much like the conservative Christian pharmacists that won’t prescribe birth control or morning after pills.

  • I live in Minnesota, and I think it’s ridiculous. First, they’re not actually TOUCHING the pork (it’s wrapped in plastic!!). Second, no one is going to make them EAT it. If they can’t handle the job, then they should never apply for it. If we were in a Muslim country and wanted them to serve us pork because it was part of our culture, you know that they wouldn’t. Why does the U.S have to bend so much for other people/religions when they are in OUR country? They wouldn’t do the same for us in theirs!

  • Yes. You are free to have whatever beliefs you want, but don’t expect stores to stop selling merchandise or customers to quit buying it to accommodate you. If you can’t touch the PACKAGED products in the store, you should probably find somewhere to work that doesn’t handle said items.

  • I used to work at Target, and I think that they should all find new jobs, just because Target doesn’t take care of their employees.

  • I think they are taking it a little too far.. if they are going to say that.. then they should work at Target.  By working at a store that sells meat, that means they are sanctioning it. right right?  goodness.

    I mean, if Target doesn’t have a problem with that.. then no she should get fired.

  • ABSOLUTELY YES… When I was hired  at my place of employment, they told me what the job would entail. Then they asked if I felt I could do that job… THEN they asked if I had any SPECIAL NEEDS.  If my employer finds out that I cannot do my job… There’s a whole lot of other people waiting to take my position.

  • If you can’t do the job……let someone else have it that can!  You are paid to do the job and it is if you are unwilling to do any part of it, you should have informed your employer at the very beginning during your interview.  My bet is that you would not have been offered the job.

  • Yes, just because they’re muslim does not necessarily mean that those specific people even understand the tenets of their religion fully.  Who knows, Islam might still allow them to work in those situations as is.  But putting that aside, it also depends on how they were hired.  Were they upfront about their practices during the application process?  If not, they should be let go.  If so, and Target said, “it’s OK, we’ll deal with it later,” then Target should relocate them to another area of the store.

  • No. It’s not that big of a deal. I wouldn’t ring up a morning-after pill if they were ever offered over the counter. But while I think the company should make a concession, I also think it’s their right to fire the employees if they want to.

  • it seems too extreme. Why would a muslim force a non-muslim to follow their practices? People would laugh at a Jew who refused to ring up any non-kosher product. Just because they have their own beliefs doesn’t mean they should hinder others from having different ones.

  • Why did they apply there if they can’t ring up some products? I say they just need to find a better job. Or, you know, a porkless one.

  • Yes fire them.

    We have no reason or need to adapt to another culture or faith. Reasonable things yes, but it is our country, they can always leave if they can’t do their own adapting. That was the same options all our ancestors had.

  • As a librarian I have to include books that are against my religious and moral beliefs because it is my job to do so.  They would definately fire me if I refused books due to religious beliefs.

  • “This is like that morning after pill thing.’

    It would be if pork were a new product that was not around when they took the job.

    They lost their jobs if you recall

  • They should be moved to a different position, because you need cashiers that will ring everything up.  On the flip side, you should research where you’re being employed, and if you feel that there could be a conflict of interest concerning your religious beliefs, then you probably shouldn’t work there.

  • since when does target sell bacon?

  • yes

  • So does that mean a catholic should be able to refuse to ring up condoms?

    That Hindus can refuse to ring up beef?

    That Seventh-Day Adventists should refuse to ring up jewelry?

    Should Atheists be allowed to refuse to ring up religous material?

    Where do we draw the line?

  • I think that those cashiers should’ve realised that there would be products that they shouldn’t handle. But it’s kinda silly when the items are all packaged up…

    and I think it was fine for the store to switch them to a different position, though.

  • In my opinion, yes. Morally, no.

  • Yes, they should be fired. That’s ridiculous. If that’s going to interfere with the everyday performance of your job, they should find another job. Stores sell pork products all of the time, and that’s a heavy liability. I’m not sure what accomodations the store could make for that issue under civil rights. Make non-pork check out isles? Doesn’t seem feasible.

  • I think they should not be a cashier.  Transferring them to another job within the company was a very reasonable solution.

  • If they can’t do the job, then they shouldn’t be hired or they should be fired.  Yes, they can work in a different part of the store, but then they aren’t a cashier now are they? 

  • Yeah dude it’s just some meat… You’re not gonna eat it, so why bother

  • Yeah dude it’s just some meat… You’re not gonna eat it, so why bother

  • Yeah dude it’s just some meat… You’re not gonna eat it, so why bother

  • Not fired, but why on earth would you apply for a cashiers job if you’re going to have to eventually ring up pork products?

  • No.  That’d be discrimination based on religion.

  • Is this similar to the Christian pharmacists who refuse to ring up birth control products? My feeling is that if you hold the belief so strongly, seek a different job. I think its commendable that Target has tried to accomodate its employees, but there is a limit.

  • And I think the suggestion to “get out of the country” is a bit extreme. And a bit xenophobic.

  • I think that if possible they should be moved to another position. If it’s not possible, yes, fire them. You are hired to perform a job, and you should be aware beforehand of what that job entails. If you aren’t willing to do all it entails, don’t apply for that job.

  • CoeXisT

  • No, I don’t think they should be fired. Maybe, asked to work in a different part of a store. But i agree with annakristine270 that a company has the right to fire its employees.

  • If there is another position open that they are able to do then so be it…..but do not make special arrangements to do that.  Unfortunately in our country they could probably sue and make millions of dollars for being fired.  I think the whole idea of why they can’t is crazy.  Technically Christians are supposed to not consume alchohol or smoke…..but are still not supposed to judge those who choose to do so.  I guess they can’t work at Walmart because they sell Christian books and so do all of the book stores. 

    I agree with “thewhoo” on the fact that if they are still working there then they are making money from a company that is making money selling those items which should be against their beleifs just as much.

  • If they were hired as cashiers then they need to do their jobs as cashiers or leave.  I HATE seeing people get “promotions” to other in store dpeartments because of stuff like this.  When you are a cashier your job is simply to ring up the items someone is purchasing.  It is not your job to examine the items or judge people based on what they are buying.  It’s your job to tell them the total.

    For those who are also saying they wouldn’t sell condoms etc. because they are Christian ummm married people use condoms too.  Are you going to ask for a marriage license before you sell a condom to someone?  I swear if a cashier tried to pull that on me it might be the first time in my life I would loose my temper.  I would be hard pressed not to give someone a bloody nose for that.

  • ^ There is a big difference between a morning after pill and a peice of bacon.

  • ^ There is a big difference between a morning after pill and a peice of bacon.

  • Hell yes.  If you have that strong of adverse feelings for the products being sold in the store, you probably shouldn’t be working there in the first place.

    -New Kid

  • no its not that serious. but my mother’s muslim and she doesn’t think ringing up some bacon is a violation. muslims can’t EAT pork in its essence. it doesn’t mean they can’t touch it wrapped up. i think people should at LEAST be a little willing though to adjust to american life if they’re gonna live here.

  • If you have a problem ringing up items in that store, you need to be doing something other than running the cashregister.

  • They should be fired (or given training) if their problem is with the person buying the pork. The product itself being the issue – I don’t know. They were hired to do a specific job, however Target choosing to support its workers is an enlightened perspective which I appreciate.

  • Yes. If you are unable to compelte the duties of your job, then you shouldn’t have it. Its not a  matter of discrimination, its a basic fact. Same reason they won’t let the 90 year old lady sit by the emergency door on an airplane, because they know she won’t be able to do her job in an emergency.

  • They should no longer be serving as a cashier if they refuse to perform duties of their job. They can be offered another position in the store if management deems that to be appropriate.

  • they might not always have another position to put them in; but there are other cashiers, I am assuming, who could ring that person up instead. no harm done.

  • Yes. They should have checked the job out to see what they would be doing before applying.

  • Their being really petty about it; they aren’t consuming the pork.

    And frankly its none of your business what people buy and you (as a cashier) have to run through the register if you disagree with it and i was a cashier for 4 years in a grocery store.  To each their own but I’m not going to not ring up something because i personally don’t believe in it. That’s being petty and they are there to do a job. 

  • They can work in a diferent part of the store, but if you’re a cashier ringing up products is part of your job description.

  • no, they shouldn’t. they could easily be switched to another part of the store. if the shoe was on the other foot, you would want grace too.

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  • no. that is a reasonable request…

  • I think it’s unreasonable to expect every company to accommodate the beliefs, practices, and lifestyles of every employee.

    Honestly, the world has gone mad.

  • I would never work in a food place where I had to cook/serve meat, etc. . .

    would be repulsed by the very idea. . .

    More power to the Muslims for standing up for what they believe in!

    Even if they eat other meat that isn’t pork. . .    : [

  • “Yes. Would they allow Christians to not scan porn movies or something else that Christians might object to?
    Posted 3/21/2007 8:40 AM by on_bleecker_street
     
    She’s exactly right.   If a Christian refused to scan alcohol or any other object, they wouldn’t start making accomodations for them.  That’s part of the job description and if you can’t do that then why did you apply for that job in the first place??

  • Yes fire them.

    We have no reason or need to adapt to another culture or faith. Reasonable things yes, but it is our country, they can always leave if they can’t do their own adapting. That was the same options all our ancestors had.
    Posted 3/21/2007 9:02 AM by trunthepaige
     
    Are you kidding?  This land didn’t start out as Christian.  The Indians had their own religious. . .but we worked hard at taking that away.  Pressuring them to stray from their ways. . .

  • Here’se a question.

    How much job opportunies would their be for a cashier in a typical-non-target grocery store anyways!

    Like if the person wasn’t working as a cashier, would they. . .

    Be shelving foods? (which might include pork. . .)

  • “Technically Christians are supposed to not consume alchohol or smoke…..” bmomof4

    Just where are the passages in the bible that say, “Thou shalt not smoke?”

  • ^ There is a big difference between a morning after pill and a peice of bacon.
    Posted 3/21/2007 10:10 AM by Ayliana87
     
    (how?  The bacon comes from a pig which was killed. . .the only difference. . .is that the morning after pill takes place the morning after, before it’s had time to develop into a baby. . .the pig is already a living being!)

  • I think religious beliefs should be considered as long as ALL of the different faiths are treated with the same respect and courtesy. At the same time people should be upfront about if there are any job duties they would not be able to perform when they are hired. This way the situation would be openly communicated and they could find a way to accomadte them from the start

  • Create a “Pork-Products” lane that is next to the “Express Lane”

  • I think it’s crazy the Christians who are going “well they wouldn’t let Christians get away with not selling condoms, etc”

    Shouldn’t you then have MORE sympathy for the Muslims, instead of going “well since we wouldn’t be able to, no one else should either” ?

    As the comment curretnly above me says, it should of course be all the religious beliefs. . .not just a dominate one or a minority one. . .

    For the people who keep on asking why they got a job at Target in the first place?

    A JOB IS A JOB.

    Are you going to tell A Muslim who has strong enough beliefs not to handle pork to just not get a job altogether, becasue who knows where he might run into it. . .

    food is alot around, and since pork is a food. . .

  • Yes….. building a mystery said it well. 

  • I think these “muslims” should read the Quran, they would probably see that it doesn’t say anything about touching pork. Also, have you seen the packages that the pork comes in? Are you really touching the pork? no.

  • ringing up items is PART OF YOUR JOB. if you can’t do it, don’t apply.

  • Wow some people really are struggling with some Christian issues that they don’t completely understand. Smoking and drinking are not banned in the Bible. In fact, do you remember Jesus’ first miracle? HE MADE WINE AT A WEDDING! If He didn’t want us to drink, He definitely would not have done that. Secondly, people are saying that no accomodations would be made for a Christian who doesn’t want to ring up pornography. Let me tell you something “Christian”: if you don’t condone what the company you work for is selling, you need to find a different job. Also, if you don’t condone what A company is selling, don’t go to that store! Avoid convenience stores that sell pornography if you feel that it’s not right [which it's not]! Simply asking for “grace” that someone ELSE would ring up the product does not make it less wrong to sell a product in the first place.

  • Yes. Real world – my employer tells me what to do and I do it. I can’t do it – I don’t get to keep the job.

  • DOUBLE STANDARDS:  Why is it okay to make these allowances for Muslims or Jews, but when a Christian pharmacist refuses to dispense “emergency contraception,”  the majority of people object?

  • It is part of the job.  If any person (other than a Muslim) refused to do their job they would be fired. Right?  

  • “Why is it okay to make these allowances for Muslims or Jews, but when a Christian pharmacist refuses to dispense “emergency contraception,” the majority of people object?”

    I believe that’s called “coveting”. Wanting something for yourself that has been given to another. You want the same allowances that have been given to muslims and jews simply because they have been given to them. Here’s an idea: have some accountability. If you choose to work somewhere that promotes something you don’t agree with; i.e. if you work for Chase and you don’t agree that anyone should have debt, then you are probably in the wrong line of business. It’s not the employer’s fault or the governnment’s fault or your grandmother’s fault; it’s YOUR FAULT. YOU are wrong for choosing to work there.

  • If you can’t or won’t do the job you’re hired to do, you should lose it or seek another position. 

  • I think it’s the companies right to fire the person if they want to fire them.  I don’t think you should take a job if you are going to feel uncomfortable selling/ringing up the products.

  • yeah right… we have to get a grip.  Target sells pork rinds.. if you don’t want to ring it up. .don’t work there.. Its like working in a tittie bar and having an aversion to nudity.. if you had the aversion, why apply???  There is a difference between violating someone’s religious beliefs and someone’s religious beliefs violating you ability to conduct business…and target is willing to retain the employees in a different capacity right?? They are working with the individuals to ensure that they are employed and that they don’t have to ring up the bacon??  Sounds like compromise to me.

  • I was fired for asking for ONE Sunday a month off.
    I wanted to go to church at least once a month on
    Sunday morning.

    I didn’t get a job at Mc Donalds (in Texas) because
    I didn’t speak spanish well enough.

    You can’t scan my pork chops because it is
    against your religion?
    WHY ARE YOU EVEN WORKING AT A PLACE THAT
    SELLS PORK CHOPS!!!!!!!!
    Seems like that would be a No, No!

  • if you can’t do the work for whatever reason, you should make that known before hiring – and then not be hired.

  • to me, it sounds ridiculous (i work at a target), but then again i wasn’t raised muslim. if they would rather not, then don’t force them. target rocks in that they don’t force people to do something they feel strongly against.

  • If they were hired for that specific job, knowing the requirements of the job, and then they refused, yes, they should be fired.  However, in my knowledge of the local stores around here, you can easily move to a different job (prep-work, stacking shelves, carry-out) without it causing too much of a problem.  I guess I would wonder why a Muslim would want to work in a store that carried pork products if it is such a big hassle to them? 

  • Why does the U.S have to bend so much for other people/religions when they are in OUR country? They wouldn’t do the same for us in theirs!
    Posted 3/21/2007 8:48 AM by CuteMami
     
    ryc: well there is not such thing as “our” religion or “our” country and well, not very many other countries have a freedom of religion clause like ”we” do.  many other countries ban religions that are practiced freely here so there is no reason for them to make concessions for “us”.  for instance jehovahs witness and most protestant religions practiced here are banned in russia.  but that really isn’t the point.
     
    as a few have said this is very similar to the morning after pill.  those pharmacists, last i heard, who were religiously oppossed were allowed to refuse a sale.  so why shouldn’t a muslim, different sect of christianity or judaic follower be allowed to refuse a sale for religious purposes?

  • and also, since when does target sell meat?  i go there all the time and i don’t think i’ve ever seen more then drinks and chips, and wine but it is wine country…i really never have seen meat though…

  • not ringing up pork is a lil extreme but not a reason to fire someone.
    so what if they dont condone it put them in a pork free section of the store then.
    and why are they making a big deal about it

  • If you have a problem with your job, quit.

    Duh!

  • i will take an extreme side here and may be offensive. if its against christianity to drink alcohol or to sell it then why do christians do it? its against their faith. and if you were true to your faith then you shouldnt do it. now, dont be a bitch about it and make a scene. just be sly. be like “o the scanner isnt working” and call some other guy and ask them if they know how to do it. and then bam, no problem. i personally think that there are some christians or jews or w/e out there that probabaly dont sell alcohol or pork because they might think its not in their faith to do so. its just a matter of commitment to your religion. that muslim person just happend to have a higher level of commitment to their faith. big whoop. get over it.

  • Honestly, if you’re working at a store, there will always be things you don’t agree with. And I don’t think anyone should be priviledged enough, as a clerk, to refuse to let ME purchase what I pay for with MY money.

  • Umm… I guess.  Why are they there in the first place?

    It’s not like it’s discrimination against Muslims, but their ability (or willingness of it) that the job demands.

  • Imagine this…new sign at Target checkout: This line for non-pork purchases only. The girls should find a job they can perform.

  • Yes. If you have a problem with selling a product for a company/store, it’s up to you to find a job that won’t involve that product. To expect an employer to cater to you is rather rediculous. If you can’t do the job, there are many others out there who’d gladly take the job.

    Employers don’t change things for Christians or Jews, so why Muslims? That seems stupid to me. If you were to go to a Muslim country, they wouldn’t change things for someone of another religion.

  • you should not apply for a job in which conflicts with your beliefs and you won’t do the whole job. they are not touching the pork (it is in containers or wrapped up), nor are they consuming the pork. i don’t see how that is conflicting with their religion.

  • you should see all the Punjabi’s we’re getting here

  • this is such a bunch of BULL dung.   Im glad I don’t live in Minnesota. When will this maddness stop and people will stop doing dumb shit in the name of TOLLERANCE?

  • I would either fire them or reassign them to somewhere else, like electronics or wherever they are not “violated” by their beliefs.  I mean, if the customer wants to buy something, they have the right to, the cashier doesn’t have the right to refuse the customer anything.

  • I’m vegan/organic and I’ve had to handle and deal with meat/leather/other stuff that I disagree with. As long as I’m not filling my body with it or economically helping a company I disagree with, it’s fine.

    I think that’s an overreaction.

  • It’s the company’s choice. Noone gets capitalism anymore=/

  • fire them if they can’t do their job.  There are religions that don’t believe in premarital sex or birth control-should those believers refuse to ring up condoms?  How about religions that don’t believe in make up or lustful underwear?  I’m certain nobody agrees with everything that is sold at any given store.  Personally, I believe it is a sin to your body  to eat junk food full of trans fats or smoke cigarettes. I couldn’t be a cashier because I’d probably have a hard time keeping my mouth shut.

  • if you can’t work it, then quit or get another job. thats the stupidest thing i’ve heard. just because you dont believe in eating pork or using the morning after pill doesn’t mean your belief should be enforced on a customer.

    point is: DO YOUR JOB, YOU’RE GETTING PAID.

  • No.

  • I agree with the first comment.  Don’t commit to something that might go against your religion!

    Bah to Muslims.  The Quran contradicts itself.

  • Yes. I don’t see how it violates Muslim beliefs at all. For example, if a Christian works on Sunday because they are in need of money to support their family (although one of the 10 commandments says to rest and not work on Sundays), this is no problem b/c he/she has to feed the children, etc.

    It also depends on how they were hired and if they knew what they would have to do.

  • YES!

    They can surely do other work, but having a cashier refusing to scan certain items makes them unable to do their job sufficiently.

  • you should not work there if you cannot sell the products

  • I think the employer should have the freedom to choose.

  • Hell no. And I don’t quite like how you always seem to gang up on the Islamic faith.

    It’s against their religion, why should they lose their jobs if they’re morally intolerant to it?

  • First:
    “I agree with the first comment. Don’t commit to something that might go against your religion!

    Bah to Muslims. The Quran contradicts itself.
    Posted 3/21/2007 3:54 PM by JusticeandLiberty” – So does the Bible!

    Second:

    Being Muslim, I can understand being uncomfortable with handling those kinds of products. In a way, it could be felt as if you are saying to yourself that it is ok to eat pork or drink alcohol (you won’t find any Muslim bartenders, for example). However, when you apply for a job, it is a good idea to realize what your responsibilities are. I don’t think that those who have been hired ought to be fired for what they believe. But they should be made aware from now on, that as an employee, it is their JOB to ring up customers for what they want to buy. It makes me glad that I work somewhere where I don’t have to deal with it But sometimes you don’t have a choice. I would never apply for the position in the first place, because I would not want to have to worry about that choice at all. But if you are applying to work somewhere that sells products that you don’t necessarily want to be promoting, you would be better off not applying at all.

    It is true that in many other countries, this would not be an issue, they would fire you outright. But other countries do quite alot of things that we don’t do here in America. Then again, aren’t we also the “land of the free”? Wasn’t the idea to accept everyone, no matter what? Maybe it’s wrong of other countries to not be accepting, but isnt that why this country was founded in the first place? To be a haven for those who could not go anywhere else? For those looking for a better life? People just have to think a bit about their religious and moral dedications before they commit themselves to something.

  • Yes,that doesn’t even make sense if it was a Christian who wouldn’t sell porn?? They would be fired!

  • I believe that’s called “coveting”. Wanting something for yourself that has been given to another. You want the same allowances that have been given to muslims and jews simply because they have been given to them. Here’s an idea: have some accountability. If you choose to work somewhere that promotes something you don’t agree with; i.e. if you work for Chase and you don’t agree that anyone should have debt, then you are probably in the wrong line of business. It’s not the employer’s fault or the governnment’s fault or your grandmother’s fault; it’s YOUR FAULT. YOU are wrong for choosing to work there.
    Posted 3/21/2007 12:21 PM by This_Is_Important

    …well, why shouldn’t they want the same allowances that have been given to other religions? That’s not a sin, that’s equality.

    As for the part about accountability, I agree with you; but if your comment was just aimed at Christians you’re kind of contradicting yourself…since the exact same thing is involved in this case with Muslims.

    Personally, I’m impressed with Target for moving these people elsewhere in the store- I would have fired them. I don’t have a problem with their beliefs, I have a problem with them refusing to do their job.

  • No, but if they get that job, they should know that they’d have to ring up some piggie eventually.

  • Mmhm.

    “Honestly, if you’re working at a store, there will always be things you don’t agree with. And I don’t think anyone should be priviledged enough, as a clerk, to refuse to let ME purchase what I pay for with MY money.

    Posted 3/21/2007 2:26 PM by MoonFaeEyryan

  • haha *biased* of course not.
    and i think this can be taken under perspective. Religion clearly decrees that if you have no other way of making money and no other job opportunities available, then you are allowed to work as a cashier, ringing up bacon once in a while. It’s not like you’re working in a bar. If those workers have such objections to it, they could just apply elsewhere, if they are able to. If they can’t get a job anywhere else, then personally, there is nothing wrong with ringing up that bacon if it would cost me a living.

  • Why does the U.S have to bend so much for other people/religions when they are in OUR country? They wouldn’t do the same for us in theirs! Posted 3/21/2007 8:48 AM by CuteMami

    “our” country?

    excuse me?

  • “Hey, whitey Christian, ring up this pork for me!”

  • It’s the customer’s religious beliefs, not the cashier’s. The customers should be able to buy what they want to buy. If they’re not fired, they should at least be in a different position.

  • My ex boyfriend is Muslim and I used to eat pork in front of him all the time; he didn’t even care! I think if he can sit there and ACTUALLY WATCH ME EAT PORK then yeah I think those Target workers are over-reacting… i agree with the fact that they’re just handling the package not eating it! I wonder though if the cab driver didn’t want to pick up the passengers because of the fact that they had the potential to be intoxicated? that would be quite the handful. But if the passengers aren’t drunk then its the same thing with the pork! I drank alcohol in front of him and he just sat there. If he heard about these people he would call them “religious fanatics”. haha.

  • P.S. I don’t think they should be fired and should just be transferred…but either way you still gotta touch the products being sold! It’s a bit ironic that they know that pork products are being sold and yet they still found it ok to work there.. i mean really did they think they weren’t ever going to come across it?

  • Only if they can’t be put into another position without undue hassle.  But they shouldn’t be able to sue if fired.

  • Yes. If they can be moved to an alternate job great, but if not it shoudl be the company’s option to fire them.

  • well, it is the company’s right to fire the employees, but personally, i think they should just move them to another position, like they did.

  • No I don’t think that a company has the rights to fire the cashier if they refuse to ring up pork.  It’s something that the Muslims truly believe in, regardless if all of society agrees.  We should all respect every form of religion. 
    What if drugs suddenly became legal and there are those who refuse to ring them up at the stores?  I think it’s all the same.
    So yeah, just assign that cashier with a different position.

  • yes

  • Yeah. You shouldn’t work somewhere if you know it’s going to involve doing things that are against your beliefs, and other people, who will actually do their job, need work as well. I refuse to work anywhere that serves/sells meat. There are other options.

  • I have nothing against muslims … but they should learn how adapt to other cultures as well if they wanna live and work in another country …

  • hey i live in mn!!! i agree with most of the people. geez you’re just ringing the darn thing up. it’s not like you’re being forced to eat it. and if you don’t want to, tell the customer to do it for you or go find another job at a clothing store or something.

  • Um, yes. It’s not like someone said they had to taste it too. They just had to ring up the item. The job requirement, not a question of faith.

  • no….that’s retarded……we just find it stupid because the majority of america is christian. WE don’t have strick beliefs that interfeer with our country as our country was started by those seeking a place to practice religion freely. How would u feel if someone fired u from a job because u would burn a cros or do another satanic action….exactly

  • If you want to do whatever you want to do when you’re in your Muslim home country, fine, nobody forced you here, if you feel offended, leave the country, nobody goes to the Middle East and says “I’m not going to touch any sand, and I’m going to unveil every women I see with her face hidden because it’s her right.
    So why come to the US and try to change it? Put up with it, or get out!

  • If everyone would do a little more accomodating, the world would be a much better place.

  • all these idiots that say “if you can’t do the job then don’t apply” probably sing to a different tune when it comes to pharmacists and the morning after pill. Target is a private company. money does the talking.

  • That is absurd. If I want to buy a drink or the morning-after pill or some condoms and some holier-than-thou asshat with an agenda refuses to do his / her job because of their religious belief, I am gonna get pissed. Keep your religion to yourself, don’t be a fucktard about it in the workplace.

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