We can drink wine with the best of them. If it’s a question of beer vs. wine then maybe there’s a debate, but using beer as a generality for alcohol, then we Christians are very merry. I personally drink beer though.
There’s wine in the Bible–why not? Heck, there’s wine at Communion. We’re SUPPOSED to drink wine. I’m taking it to mean that as long as you don’t get spanking drunk, alcohol is okay.
I believe so ,it is the warning of getting drunk that is mentioned.
Why not… Christ drank wine…
Of course… it is only when rinking to excess when alchol becomes a problem… so if you think of things that way and consider that rules are sometimes set for the weakest… then you could say no…
Personally… I feel that it should be an individual choice… Ang
I would hope so. Or I’m in trouble.
I’d ask the various monestaries who go about brewing the stuff, eh?
No getting wasted and acting like an idiot – that’s another issue.
Yeah. Not to excess though. Beer is kind of gross though. Maybe try a different alcohol if you must drink.
I think so… just don’t get drunk.
Sure, why not?
Christians can drink whatever they want to drink….
It’s all in how they were brought up or their convictions about it ro culture… I know some of the most Godliest people who live in Germany and that’s all they drink, pretty much… I’m not judging anyone…
I don’t drink because I don’t like the taste of it and because too many people are killed from drunk drivers, etc… not because I’m a Christian…
Tootles!
I personally don’t drink alcohol, but I don’t have a problem with other Christians drinking, as long as they don’t get drunk. I don’t like other things to “master” or “control” me. Alcohol has a way of making a person do things they wouldn’t normally do. The best way to avoid that is to not drink alcohol. My 2 cents…
I agree with everyone else that has commented. As long as you don’t get wasted or anything like that your fine.
didn’t you read the bible, dan? people who drink beer go to hell, right behind the fags and the people who bounce checks.
Yes totally. I’ll go drink one right now.
That’s towel head laws, silly.
i dont mind beer. and im a christian. but im also a catholic, so for some people that makes me not a christian
I’d rather not start at all than try to control myself later on.
Why not? Just because I choose to not consume alcohol does not mean it is wrong for all believers in Jesus.
yes as long as it doesn’t stumble anyone present
I don’t think there’s a problem with it as long as it is not done in excess. When done in moderation it can still be a sin for some while not a sin for others. Some may argue that you can’t drink beer during passover [the whole yeast thing]. Depends on how you feel about passover I guess!
Umm yeah.
Or at least I hope so. Ha
Although.. I don’t like beer. I do like other alcohol though.
RYC: Great minds think alike.
Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible, but not everything is constructive. 1 Corinthians 10:23
The drinking itself isn’t a problem…it’s the getting drunk part that’s the issue when it comes to Christians and alcohol consumption.
“allowed” by who?
yes, and i’m a christian so i’d know haha. as long as you don’t get drunk.. it’s fine.
Everything in moderation.
lol – I’m drinking Vodka as I type this. There’s no issue with Christians drinking – Calvin was paid in wine. Luther loved his beer. The only issue with drinking, when it comes to Christianity, is drunkness – I’d say that’s a no-no.
Jesus’ first miracle was turning water into premium (read: non-watered down) wine. As with many things in life, it’s all in how you use them.
No, which is reason #1 I am an atheist.
Sure…why not?
Not only are we allowed to drink it, but we are allowed to enjoy it as well. If you can show me in the bible where God says, though shalt not drink beer, I will stop. Till then….cheers.
I dunno. Do they serve beer in church?
I’m not really sure..
I guess if they dont get themselves trashed everytime, and can control themselves, its fine.
Personally, If I ever drink beer (Its NASTY.), It’d be non-alchoholic. My Dad drinks.. I’m wanting to say ‘Sam’.. -braindeath-
i do…
the bible says don’t get drunk .. it doesn’t say not to drink at all.
so if you think you can drink a beer or two and not get tempted to get wasted, then go ahead!
amanda
uh sure. why not??
Yes!
It’s a personal conviction whether you want to or not, though. I choose not to because I think that at my age [20] most drinking is not constructive or healthy, and I don’t want to contribute to the epidemic drinking problem facing college students.
I also choose not to do it out of compassion for my fellow Christians who struggle with the addiction. I don’t want to make them stumble. This sprung out of a church service I attended in inner city Chicago, where recovered alcoholics made up about 15-25% of the congregation.
And as quite a few people have already said, drunkenness is forbidden in the Bible. (So is gluttony. But that doesn’t mean we can’t eat.)
I dunno, I’m not Christian. But look at it this way. God made beer or at least put the idea in the head of the guy that did. So beer is God’s creation. Drink up.
“I dunno. Do they serve beer in church?”
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They don’t watch cable in church (hopefully), but that doesn’t mean a Christian can’t watch TV.
You have to look at the Bible. The church can teach a bunch of bull, but the Bible is always correct when it comes to our beliefs (with the right translation).
I have to add… a third reason I choose not to do it is that I’m underage. Almost forgot about that. It sure doesn’t seem to matter much to a lot of other people nowadays.
I dunno, I’m not Christian. But look at it this way. God made beer or at least put the idea in the head of the guy that did. So beer is God’s creation. Drink up.
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God isn’t responsible for all our thoughts. If so, why do men have ‘fantasies’?
ha ,either way,i dont see nothin stopin ‘em!.lmao.
Scripture warns against being drunk. Not against alcohol in general.
Besides–the existence of Guinness is one of the best arguments for the existence of a loving God.
WWJD? lmao
I drink beer, so if Christians aren’t allowed to, then I’ve got problems. I prefer wine, but beer is fun, too. Cheers!
yeah, just as long as we don’t get drunk. I’d drink with my family/friends, but I’m always careful not to get drunk.
yes in moderation and with control. can’t stand self-righteous pricks who say drinking alcohol is a vice. Jesus drank wine- some people need to just chill and allow others to live their lives (granted they are not a hazard to society or themselves).
“Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.” (1 Tim 5:23)
wine is set before the apostles at the last supper. oy, there’s tons of stories about the drinking of wine in a good light. hell, jesus turned water into wine at a wedding because they had run out of the stuff
“drink and be merry”
yes, just not in excess
Absolutely not. Drinking beer = hellfire and damnation for all of eternity. Do not stop at Go, do not collect $200.
God says only Jagermeister.
yes,but not to excess.
gina
do not get drunk.. but a christian needs to be mature enough to have that freedom before they are allowed to drink… me, I choose not to excercise that freedom.
Daniel (doublebd)
yes, as long as u don’t get excedingly drunk
I’m Christain and I drink occasionally, but I don’t get belligerent
It’s kinda like dancing . . . some can, and some just can’t.
You have to baptize the beer beforehand.
Goddamn you, Dainel (doublebd)! Stop tutoring me!
I hope not. Beer is fucking nastiness. Vodka is way better.
Might want to actually read the Bible before spouting off inaccuracies and commonly-misheld stereotypes, sweetheart. Know what you’re saying before you say it. It’ll make you look a lot less stupid.
Christians can drink beer, however would you see Jesus getting drunk? He drank wine, ha – he turned the water into wine. But, drinking beer is being more OF the world and not just LIVING it it. I know that as a Christian, I won’t drink beer. I would hate for a non christian friend to come over and open the fridge and see a beer can. What kind of example as a Christian would I be setting? “It’s ok to live OF the world like everyone else.” So, it depends on the Christian, everyone has differant views – I know that I won’t drink beer. I still debate about wine. Jesus drank wine – he didn’t get drunk though. So would it be ok to drink wine on occasion for a special event? I don’t know yet. I do what I feel is right, and I still don’t have an anwser yet.
Only in America is this even an issue. Maybe we should ask things like: “When driving their cars, are Christians allowed to act like jackasses?”
Yes, WE are not allowed to get drunk.
Incidentally, I prefer brown ale. My favorite is made by a bunch of Christ-loving monks in Europe known as Trappists.
Well, in response to your comment, I’d say I’m a pretty aggressive reader
In actuality, there’s no way I’ll get halfway through that list, but a girl can dream.
if not, then so many of us are going to hell..
allowed? jesus certainly had no qualms against alcohol in its rightful place. the apostle paul told timothy (a young man at the time) to use wine for his ailments/illnesses.
Sure. In moderation. Cheers!!!
Hey, this works perfectly with the “good puke” that you mentioned!!!!
I choose not to drink alcohol but I have no problems with other people, Christians or not, consuming alcohol so long as they do not abuse it. I do have a problem with people who abuse substances.
Beer . . . it’s what’s for dinner.
OK, seriously, this whole “Christians shouldn’t drink” thing is BS. Where on earth or in the bible does it say that. For freakin’ sake [you know, sake - the Japanese wine] the first miracle Jesus performed was turning water into wine.
I’ve heard pastors preach from their pulpit that men with certain haircuts who drink BudDUMBER were going to hell. Yeah, I lasted in that church for a minute.
*goes to drink a beer*
I believe it was Ben Franklin who said ‘beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy’. I’ve heard that the reason why beer was invented was because of bad water supplies….I have no problem with Christians drinking. I am not so sure that I have a problem with Christians getting drunk now and then. I do have a problem with partying becoming the epicenter of one’s existence / lifestyle.
Of course, but why would you want to? It’s disgusting and decidedly un-classy. Ask DMV for where it’s at.
As long as it’s in moderation, sure.
I could use a stiff drink right now, too. >.<
Heck yes.
We’re just not supposed to overdo it.
Presbyterians are. Heh, heh. Just kidding, my husband was raised Southern Baptist, and he drinks the occasional Bud Light.
Oui. My dad drinks it alot.
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and so does my pastor. I think its just the drunk factor.
My husband and I are both Christians and we both drink. I think the Bible states it’s wrong to get drunk, but not to drink.
Of course not. Christian’s aren’t allowed to have any fun.
RYC: I agree with you. If we got something that we could fill up now, it would get junky as the years went by.
Yes we are, if not you need to believe one of two things. That wine is is holy and beer is sinful, or that Jesus was a sinful.
I need to introduce Jill to good beer. She obviously has been raised on bud, coors and other assorted yuck that calls itself beer.
Anyone over the age of 21 can legally drink beer.
this is one of those areas where each individual Christian must follow the “liberty of his or her conscience”- referring to the Pauline letters (I believe Corinthians) if a Christian is strong enough to do something that’s really morally neutral (the example given in the text is eating meat sacrificed at pagan shrines) and not bother his or her conscience, then it is OK for that person- HOWEVER, if this stronger Christian causes a weaker Christian to stumble in the process of exercising their liberated conscience then it is a sin. Soooo if you’re a strong Christian in the sense that alcohol is not an issue of abuse or drunkeness for you then it is OK, but NOT if you do it around or encourage a fellow Christian for whom drinking is a BIG issue of NO- NO…
I think that about covers it..
no. christians shouldn’t do anything. especially vote.
Christians are allowed to do anything..
Just encouraged to not do certain things..
like getting drunk!
of course! it never says you can’t. just says not to get drunk.
why not? the only problem is not drinking in general but excessive drinking or drunkenness. Everyone can enjoy responsibly.
Hezekiah 3:5 – Thou shalt not dring beer or hard liquor during the harvest time.
uh why not? its not like you could drink the water back in the day so what do you think they drank besides wine? is this really an issue of dogma for anyone on a christian-ness level? seems silly if it is.
Thank God, yes.
FUCK YEAH WE ARE!!
there is nothing intrensically evil about alcohol. The sin is when it comes to drunkeness. Some of the men whom Christians would harold as being the great theologians of our time (C.S. Lewis) drank beer on a regular basis.
Alcohol, not a sin
Drunkeness, a sin
short answer: yes Christians can drink beer as long as it does not cause someone to stumble in their faith.
I think so…but I’m not sure. I’m not too keen on the big book.
As long as they don’t get to fucked up, I’m sure it’s all good.
xoxo
[abby]
I used to have a priest that would always kick back a few brewskies with the altar boys, so yea I guess so.
But seriously, I was told in Catholic school that you can drink BUT you can’t get drunk. So for Christians unless you really enjoy the taste of beer there’s no point.
Yes, of course. Christ used wine in communion. Especially true if you’re Lutheran (German roots = good beer).
No we must drink Wine like Jesus made at the wedding of Cana Of course we can drink beer.
No, they should be reduced to drinking alcohol-free beer that tastes awful.
duh
They are not?
in moderation. Actually, all people that drink should drink in moderation.
There was a story of a son who disgraced his father, looking at him naked and drunk.
NAKED AND DRUNK!!!
And disgrace.
According to the bible, if you are going to piss God off, it involves being too drunk.
So you can do crack, just not too much.
Personally I don’t see the problem with it as long as it isn’t in excess, however…
My Catholic friends can drink, no problem.
Pentecostals that I know believe it’s a S I N!
Baptists I know believe it’s a S I N!
*Shrugs*
I don’t understand it…
yep. though all my reasoning has been so carefully worded by everyone else…
Yes, why not?
allowed to drink? yes. wise to get drunk? no–but that goes for everyone. but a few beers is fine.
I do.
Well, actually, no, I don’t. But I will. When I turn 21. And the rest of my family does, although we’re more of a wine family than a beer family.
I dont drink because my personal convictions. And I don’t think Christians should. That’s just my opinion.
Okay, I can’t resist the cheap joke:
Only Irish Catholics.
Hah! Stereotypes are funny. FYI: I’m Irish. I don’t drink at all.
yes for catholics and most religions, but a definate no for mormons, most baptists, nazarrene and a few others
You mean like “allowed” or you’ll get arrested, or “allowed” like you’ll burn in hell?
Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible, but not everything is constructive. 1 Corinthians 10:23
I believe it says something to the effect of “all things in moderation”.
It’s all a muddle anyway.
i find it amusing how many other people on here are saying what others are “allowed” to do.
yes…
Sure, but everything in moderation. It isn’t drinking beer that is bad, it is the addiction to drinking beer that is bad.
However, Christians are not to be stumbling blocks to others. So I think if you are having dinner with an alcoholic, you probably shouldn’t drink a beer if it is going to create a problem for the alcoholic.
:] I think so.
True Story: An English minister was visiting a German minister at his home. They were eating a family dinner when the Germin minister started pouring beer into people’s glasses. The Englsih minister said, “No beer for me, please. English Christians don’t drink.” When everyone was served, the German minister started to pray a blessing on the meal, to which he concluded, “…and let us be thankful that we are not English Christians”.
Just a very little glass full
It depends on who u ask… A “Mormon” Christian will say no to even a coffee or Soda because they have caffeine…The bible says that drinking to EXCESS is bad- that U should not allow yourself to become DRUNK… It also says that it is not what u put in your body that defiles u…but it is what comes out of your mouth.
Why not? Didn’t Paul suggest that Timothy drink wine in the bible? (1st Timothy 5:23)
I signed a covenant with The Salvation Army that I would completely abstain. Personally I tried beer when I was much younger … hated it. Abstinence has been no problem.
I know so many christians that drink beer and whatever.so i guess they can.i mean you can ask for forgiveness.
Okay time for a lesson in hermeneutics. God strictly forbids drunkennes… here: I Sam 1:14, Proverbs 23:21, Ecclesiastes 10:17, Isaiah 29:9, Luke 21:34, Romans 13:13, I Cor 5:11/6:10, Galatians 5:21, Ephesians 5:18, I Timothy 3:3, Titus 1:7. This of course is not an exhaustive list becuase there are other times when God figuratively uses drunkenness to explain that you shouldn’t be doing something.
Jesus DID make water into wine at a wedding feast which must mean that it is okay to drink wine, however remembering the verses above that say not to get drunk. Both the new adn old testament stress this. Also, some people have quoted I Timothy 5:23 that reads, “Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.” The reason Paul said that wasn’t becase you’re SUPPOSED to drink wine, but because Timothy was so dedicated to the Lord that he drank only water so he wouldn’t be tempted in any way. The water that he was drinking wasn’t exactly the Dasani that we have today and it was causing him to have stomach pains. A moderation of the wine that they had during that time and the water they were drinking would calm the stomach. Also wine does have certain healing properties that help with an upset stomach; kinda like 7up.
I understand drinking to be fine. But, as others have said, getting drunk is another issue.
Well, it’s OK at the Church of the Blessed Six Pack.
Yeah, but they cannot get drunk. For many MANY reasons.. But if my husband drank, I would allow him to only drink Non-Alchoholic beer. Take no chances.
But, remember that Jesus drank Wine I believe contained alchohol. But you never saw them get DRUNK.
Why not…?
Absolutely!
Everything in moderation (including moderation).
Romans 14 through like the middle of 15 has really helped me with this issue.
I’ve heard it put this way….Sex, Alcohol, and Money have the same effect on a person. They force the person to act in a way that is not like them, therfore being susceptible to compromising their relationship with God. Those three are gifts by God and can be a beautiful thing, but they all have the potential to be very dangerous.
Cheers…*clink*
yea,
but i would get fired from church if they found out.
J
In moderation.
yes, as long as they don’t get drunk. or at least..i think that’s what the Bible says.
We seem to do it. Nothing in the ten commandments against it…
Yea, of course. Alcohal isn’t bad until you abuse and/or get dependent on it.
well a…i mean come one the first miracle by jesus was making wine, and wine has a higher alcoholic content then beer…..It’s fine, as long as you don’t abuse it
drink beer, liquor, wine; drink whatever you what AND how ever much you want to drink. It your life, drink up.
chug, chug, chug!!!!!
I wish I had a alcoholic buzz right now……
I don’t see why not.
From what spawned this question? Not that I think it’s completely worthless, there are plenty of non-Christians out there who willfully keep themselves in ignorance and glory whenever they see a Christian drinking. “there, there, see, he doesn’t follow the rules!”. Yeah. For the ignorant ones, get out your bible and turn to . . . oh, honey, any NUMBER of passages where the word wine is used in context to Christians consuming it. Timothy says to “take a little wine for your stomach”. Paul warns against drunkenness (moderation, moderation, moderation!). Nowhere is alcohol specifically forbidden. Where the confusion in the Christian ranks lies is that some people, namely souther Baptists, belief the word in it’s original greek/aramaic, refers to grape juice. Which it does . . . and doesn’t. See, it’s the same word used for grape juice that has become wine. As I see it, if God didn’t care enough to make sure there was a distinction between the two, then it isn’t an issue. Christians should argue about more critical issues than this, like whether or not salvation can be lost, if baptism is essential to salvation, etc. Alcohol? Puhlease!
They didn’t say beer,but we can definetly drink wine.
Why not? I loves me some beer.
Yes Christians can drink beer. It is drunkeness we should not become part of. And heck Jesus busted out the best wine at a phat wedding after everyone was throughly drunk. I mean if Jesus made beer like that wine, I think it would be the “King of Kings of Beers” =)
Ditto IssyMae. Though I will add that I also think a Christian shouldn’t drink if a) they’re underaged or b) it offends their conscience. It also can get tricky with “weaker brothers.”
Regarding passover, I’m not a Jew and don’t care.
Sure… it’s getting drunk that’s the problem.
Personally, I don’t drink. But that’s because I don’t like it… not because I’m morally against it.
It just needs to be in moderation…
i think it’s perfectly acceptable for Christians to drink beer. after all, in the catholic church, we have wine for communion. moderation is the key and know thyself when you drink (i learned it the hard way). and of course, stay away from promiscuity and all is swell.
Read 1Timothy 5:23
Depends I imagine on the denomination they belong to. Our church uses grape juice for Communion.
Yes, drinking in moderation is fine. It’s the whole getting drunk thing that is being unwise we should not do. But that really isn’t such a bad thing because why would you want to be out of control? You’ll most likely do something you’ll regret later.
yes
everything is permissible according to paul. jesus drank. if someone said we’re not allowed to drink, *cough SBC*, they should be excommunicated from christianity.
The Bible says we should avoid drunkeness, but alcohol falls under christian liberty
I don’t think Jesus made non-alcoholic wine at that wedding. Whats the moral difference between wine and beer?
Yes.
I’m sure its in one of those chapters, in one those books, “Thow shalt not partake in the Wise of the Bud”, or some such thing. Well if not somebody will interpate something to suit there needs. “Cheers”
Oh Yeah , Yeah, theres that passage that says, “thow shalt not drink until he pisses himself” Yeah, thats the one. Cheers
What a weird question.
Well if not those fuckers are gonna burn in “Hell”
i think christians are allowed to drink alcohol as long as it is in moderation because the drunkenness is the sin, not the consuming of it.
this Christian does.. lol
I think a lot of people don’t take into account cultural values when they look at this question. In American culture, especially in the South, drinking is seen as off limits to Christians (let’s make that evangelical Christians). The culture is changing somewhat, but still if someone I knew saw me drinking alcohol, they would say, “Hey, look at her! Miss Goody-Two-Shoes is drinking! I thought she was supposed to be a Christian.” Because of the culture, many churches (including mine) forbid drinking or selling alcohol. So I am not allowed by my church to drink alcohol, even though it isn’t expressly forbidden in the Bible. In other countries, sometimes the culture allows for Christians to drink in moderation.
“Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.” Proverbs 20:1
wwjd?
You have got to be kidding? If Jesus did not drink alcohol, such as beer or wine, what could the intake of communion have aluded to? He would never have substituted water for wine, in His plan for the Preist to follow in Holy Communion, for the Church after His Death, Resurrection, and Giving of the Spirit at Pentacost. (That was another miracle…or was that substituting wine for water?) The Mediteranean was, and still is a sewer. The water was undrinkable. If Europeans, including any Christians amongst them, are not allowed to drink beer, because of the usual stigma, that it conatins alcohol, the result would turn out that they would all become either very sick, or very thirsty. Not to say the least, that communion isn’t even considered crowd-pleasing at all, unless it refers to the Blood of the Lamb, by the shedding of His blood at Calvary, being originally turned into blood from wine. Yes, drinking alcohol such as beer is acceptable by Jesus…He loves the sinner. Then we get into whether a church should accept into their fold, a person who would wear sandals and long hair?
i don’t know. let’s pray and ask. maybe god gives a fuck whether we drink beer. or maybe he just doesn’t want us to kill other people in our cars when we’re wasted. i don’t see any sort of correlation at all. but, yeah. to be on the safe side i’d say no beer. ever. because once that bottle is open, you don’t have the judgment not to get wasted and kill people.
Beer and wine are found all throughout the Bible—it’s what they drank, since nothing else could stay safe. Christians today can still drink beer and wine, using good judgement, and making sure they don’t abuse the privelege or let it lead them to behaving irresponsibly about anything.
NO! Christ was not a bartender, and Christians are to be sober! Read the Bible, people!
yes…in my opinion. drinking is not a sin…its when you become a glutton and drink too much…thus becoming drunk.
Is the question “can or should?” for I believe it is part of the tithe ( Deuteronomy 14:22-27).
Why would they not? Jesus clearly was for public intoxication, judging from that wedding where he gave even more wine to the already drunk crowds.
The christians invented beer! When the puritans settled in America they needed a nutritional suppliment because too many people were dying from malnourishment. They needed a drink that was high in calories and cheap and easy to make. Thus beer was born (and also why it makes you pack on the pounds. That was the point in the first place!)
I believe the Bible says essentially that getting drunk off your ass is a bad idea because it makes you stupid, you can’t glorify God, etc., but that doesn’t mean that you can’t use it at all.
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NO! My Beer!
Well, as long as it is Christian Beer.
Killian’s
We can drink wine with the best of them. If it’s a question of beer vs. wine then maybe there’s a debate, but using beer as a generality for alcohol, then we Christians are very merry. I personally drink beer though.
There’s wine in the Bible–why not? Heck, there’s wine at Communion. We’re SUPPOSED to drink wine. I’m taking it to mean that as long as you don’t get spanking drunk, alcohol is okay.
I believe so ,it is the warning of getting drunk that is mentioned.
Why not… Christ drank wine…
Of course… it is only when rinking to excess when alchol becomes a problem… so if you think of things that way and consider that rules are sometimes set for the weakest… then you could say no…
Personally… I feel that it should be an individual choice… Ang
I would hope so. Or I’m in trouble.
I’d ask the various monestaries who go about brewing the stuff, eh?
No getting wasted and acting like an idiot – that’s another issue.
Yeah. Not to excess though. Beer is kind of gross though. Maybe try a different alcohol if you must drink.
I think so… just don’t get drunk.
Sure, why not?
Christians can drink whatever they want to drink….
It’s all in how they were brought up or their convictions about it ro culture… I know some of the most Godliest people who live in Germany and that’s all they drink, pretty much… I’m not judging anyone…
I don’t drink because I don’t like the taste of it and because too many people are killed from drunk drivers, etc… not because I’m a Christian…
Tootles!
I personally don’t drink alcohol, but I don’t have a problem with other Christians drinking, as long as they don’t get drunk. I don’t like other things to “master” or “control” me. Alcohol has a way of making a person do things they wouldn’t normally do. The best way to avoid that is to not drink alcohol. My 2 cents…
I agree with everyone else that has commented. As long as you don’t get wasted or anything like that your fine.
BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
didn’t you read the bible, dan? people who drink beer go to hell, right behind the fags and the people who bounce checks.
Yes totally. I’ll go drink one right now.
That’s towel head laws, silly.
i dont mind beer. and im a christian. but im also a catholic, so for some people that makes me not a christian
I’d rather not start at all than try to control myself later on.
Why not? Just because I choose to not consume alcohol does not mean it is wrong for all believers in Jesus.
yes
as long as it doesn’t stumble anyone present
I don’t think there’s a problem with it as long as it is not done in excess. When done in moderation it can still be a sin for some while not a sin for others. Some may argue that you can’t drink beer during passover [the whole yeast thing]. Depends on how you feel about passover I guess!
Umm yeah.
Or at least I hope so. Ha
Although.. I don’t like beer. I do like other alcohol though.
RYC: Great minds think alike.
Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible, but not everything is constructive. 1 Corinthians 10:23
The drinking itself isn’t a problem…it’s the getting drunk part that’s the issue when it comes to Christians and alcohol consumption.
“allowed” by who?
yes, and i’m a christian so i’d know haha. as long as you don’t get drunk.. it’s fine.
Everything in moderation.
lol – I’m drinking Vodka as I type this. There’s no issue with Christians drinking – Calvin was paid in wine. Luther loved his beer. The only issue with drinking, when it comes to Christianity, is drunkness – I’d say that’s a no-no.
Jesus’ first miracle was turning water into premium (read: non-watered down) wine. As with many things in life, it’s all in how you use them.
No, which is reason #1 I am an atheist.
Sure…why not?
Not only are we allowed to drink it, but we are allowed to enjoy it as well. If you can show me in the bible where God says, though shalt not drink beer, I will stop. Till then….cheers.
I dunno. Do they serve beer in church?
I’m not really sure..
I guess if they dont get themselves trashed everytime, and can control themselves, its fine.
Personally, If I ever drink beer (Its NASTY.), It’d be non-alchoholic.
My Dad drinks.. I’m wanting to say ‘Sam’.. -braindeath-
i do…
the bible says don’t get drunk .. it doesn’t say not to drink at all.
so if you think you can drink a beer or two and not get tempted to get wasted, then go ahead!
amanda
uh sure. why not??
Yes!
It’s a personal conviction whether you want to or not, though. I choose not to because I think that at my age [20] most drinking is not constructive or healthy, and I don’t want to contribute to the epidemic drinking problem facing college students.
I also choose not to do it out of compassion for my fellow Christians who struggle with the addiction. I don’t want to make them stumble. This sprung out of a church service I attended in inner city Chicago, where recovered alcoholics made up about 15-25% of the congregation.
And as quite a few people have already said, drunkenness is forbidden in the Bible. (So is gluttony. But that doesn’t mean we can’t eat.)
I dunno, I’m not Christian. But look at it this way. God made beer or at least put the idea in the head of the guy that did. So beer is God’s creation. Drink up.
“I dunno. Do they serve beer in church?”
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They don’t watch cable in church (hopefully), but that doesn’t mean a Christian can’t watch TV.
You have to look at the Bible. The church can teach a bunch of bull, but the Bible is always correct when it comes to our beliefs (with the right translation).
I have to add… a third reason I choose not to do it is that I’m underage. Almost forgot about that.
It sure doesn’t seem to matter much to a lot of other people nowadays.
I dunno, I’m not Christian. But look at it this way. God made beer or at least put the idea in the head of the guy that did. So beer is God’s creation. Drink up.
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God isn’t responsible for all our thoughts. If so, why do men have ‘fantasies’?
ha ,either way,i dont see nothin stopin ‘em!.lmao.
Scripture warns against being drunk. Not against alcohol in general.
Besides–the existence of Guinness is one of the best arguments for the existence of a loving God.
WWJD? lmao
I drink beer, so if Christians aren’t allowed to, then I’ve got problems. I prefer wine, but beer is fun, too. Cheers!
yeah, just as long as we don’t get drunk. I’d drink with my family/friends, but I’m always careful not to get drunk.
yes in moderation and with control.
can’t stand self-righteous pricks
who say drinking alcohol is a vice.
Jesus drank wine- some people need to
just chill and allow others to live
their lives (granted they are not
a hazard to society or themselves).
“Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.” (1 Tim 5:23)
wine is set before the apostles at the last supper. oy, there’s tons of stories about the drinking of wine in a good light. hell, jesus turned water into wine at a wedding because they had run out of the stuff
“drink and be merry”
yes, just not in excess
Absolutely not. Drinking beer = hellfire and damnation for all of eternity. Do not stop at Go, do not collect $200.
God says only Jagermeister.
yes,but not to excess.
gina
do not get drunk.. but a christian needs to be mature enough to have that freedom before they are allowed to drink… me, I choose not to excercise that freedom.
Daniel (doublebd)
yes, as long as u don’t get excedingly drunk
I’m Christain and I drink occasionally, but I don’t get belligerent
It’s kinda like dancing . . . some can, and some just can’t.
You have to baptize the beer beforehand.
Goddamn you, Dainel (doublebd)! Stop tutoring me!
I hope not. Beer is fucking nastiness. Vodka is way better.
But yes, Christians are allowed to drink alcohol.
Did someone say beer?
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Might want to actually read the Bible before spouting off inaccuracies and commonly-misheld stereotypes, sweetheart. Know what you’re saying before you say it. It’ll make you look a lot less stupid.
Christians can drink beer, however would you see Jesus getting drunk? He drank wine, ha – he turned the water into wine. But, drinking beer is being more OF the world and not just LIVING it it. I know that as a Christian, I won’t drink beer. I would hate for a non christian friend to come over and open the fridge and see a beer can. What kind of example as a Christian would I be setting? “It’s ok to live OF the world like everyone else.” So, it depends on the Christian, everyone has differant views – I know that I won’t drink beer. I still debate about wine. Jesus drank wine – he didn’t get drunk though. So would it be ok to drink wine on occasion for a special event? I don’t know yet. I do what I feel is right, and I still don’t have an anwser yet.
Only in America is this even an issue. Maybe we should ask things like: “When driving their cars, are Christians allowed to act like jackasses?”
Yes, WE are not allowed to get drunk.
Incidentally, I prefer brown ale. My favorite is made by a bunch of Christ-loving monks in Europe known as Trappists.
Well, in response to your comment, I’d say I’m a pretty aggressive reader
In actuality, there’s no way I’ll get halfway through that list, but a girl can dream.
if not, then so many of us are going to hell..
allowed? jesus certainly had no qualms against alcohol in its rightful place. the apostle paul told timothy (a young man at the time) to use wine for his ailments/illnesses.
Sure. In moderation. Cheers!!!
Hey, this works perfectly with the “good puke” that you mentioned!!!!
I choose not to drink alcohol but I have no problems with other people, Christians or not, consuming alcohol so long as they do not abuse it. I do have a problem with people who abuse substances.
Beer . . . it’s what’s for dinner.
OK, seriously, this whole “Christians shouldn’t drink” thing is BS. Where on earth or in the bible does it say that. For freakin’ sake [you know, sake - the Japanese wine] the first miracle Jesus performed was turning water into wine.
I’ve heard pastors preach from their pulpit that men with certain haircuts who drink BudDUMBER were going to hell. Yeah, I lasted in that church for a minute.
*goes to drink a beer*
I believe it was Ben Franklin who said ‘beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy’. I’ve heard that the reason why beer was invented was because of bad water supplies….I have no problem with Christians drinking. I am not so sure that I have a problem with Christians getting drunk now and then. I do have a problem with partying becoming the epicenter of one’s existence / lifestyle.
Of course, but why would you want to? It’s disgusting and decidedly un-classy. Ask DMV for where it’s at.
As long as it’s in moderation, sure.
I could use a stiff drink right now, too. >.<
Heck yes.
We’re just not supposed to overdo it.
Presbyterians are. Heh, heh. Just kidding, my husband was raised Southern Baptist, and he drinks the occasional Bud Light.
Oui. My dad drinks it alot.
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and so does my pastor.
I think its just the drunk factor.
My husband and I are both Christians and we both drink. I think the Bible states it’s wrong to get drunk, but not to drink.
Of course not. Christian’s aren’t allowed to have any fun.
RYC: I agree with you. If we got something that we could fill up now, it would get junky as the years went by.
Yes we are, if not you need to believe one of two things. That wine is is holy and beer is sinful, or that Jesus was a sinful.
I need to introduce Jill to good beer. She obviously has been raised on bud, coors and other assorted yuck that calls itself beer.
Anyone over the age of 21 can legally drink beer.
this is one of those areas where each individual Christian must follow the “liberty of his or her conscience”- referring to the Pauline letters (I believe Corinthians) if a Christian is strong enough to do something that’s really morally neutral (the example given in the text is eating meat sacrificed at pagan shrines) and not bother his or her conscience, then it is OK for that person- HOWEVER, if this stronger Christian causes a weaker Christian to stumble in the process of exercising their liberated conscience then it is a sin. Soooo if you’re a strong Christian in the sense that alcohol is not an issue of abuse or drunkeness for you then it is OK, but NOT if you do it around or encourage a fellow Christian for whom drinking is a BIG issue of NO- NO…
I think that about covers it..
no. christians shouldn’t do anything. especially vote.
Christians are allowed to do anything..
Just encouraged to not do certain things..
like getting drunk!
of course! it never says you can’t. just says not to get drunk.
why not? the only problem is not drinking in general but excessive drinking or drunkenness. Everyone can enjoy responsibly.
Hezekiah 3:5 – Thou shalt not dring beer or hard liquor during the harvest time.
uh why not? its not like you could drink the water back in the day so what do you think they drank besides wine? is this really an issue of dogma for anyone on a christian-ness level? seems silly if it is.
Thank God, yes.
FUCK YEAH WE ARE!!
there is nothing intrensically evil about alcohol. The sin is when it comes to drunkeness. Some of the men whom Christians would harold as being the great theologians of our time (C.S. Lewis) drank beer on a regular basis.
Alcohol, not a sin
Drunkeness, a sin
short answer: yes Christians can drink beer as long as it does not cause someone to stumble in their faith.
I think so…but I’m not sure. I’m not too keen on the big book.
As long as they don’t get to fucked up, I’m sure it’s all good.
xoxo
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I used to have a priest that would always kick back a few brewskies with the altar boys, so yea I guess so.
But seriously, I was told in Catholic school that you can drink BUT you can’t get drunk. So for Christians unless you really enjoy the taste of beer there’s no point.
Yes, of course. Christ used wine in communion. Especially true if you’re Lutheran (German roots = good beer).
No we must drink Wine like Jesus made at the wedding of Cana
Of course we can drink beer.
No, they should be reduced to drinking alcohol-free beer that tastes awful.
duh
They are not?
in moderation. Actually, all people that drink should drink in moderation.
There was a story of a son who disgraced his father, looking at him naked and drunk.
NAKED AND DRUNK!!!
And disgrace.
According to the bible, if you are going to piss God off, it involves being too drunk.
So you can do crack, just not too much.
Personally I don’t see the problem with it as long as it isn’t in excess, however…
My Catholic friends can drink, no problem.
Pentecostals that I know believe it’s a S I N!
Baptists I know believe it’s a S I N!
*Shrugs*
I don’t understand it…
yep. though all my reasoning has been so carefully worded by everyone else…
Yes, why not?
allowed to drink? yes. wise to get drunk? no–but that goes for everyone. but a few beers is fine.
I do.
Well, actually, no, I don’t. But I will. When I turn 21. And the rest of my family does, although we’re more of a wine family than a beer family.
I dont drink because my personal convictions. And I don’t think Christians should. That’s just my opinion.
Okay, I can’t resist the cheap joke:
Only Irish Catholics.
Hah! Stereotypes are funny.
FYI: I’m Irish. I don’t drink at all.
yes for catholics and most religions, but a definate no for mormons, most baptists, nazarrene and a few others
You mean like “allowed” or you’ll get arrested, or “allowed” like you’ll burn in hell?
Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible, but not everything is constructive. 1 Corinthians 10:23
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Exactly!
Allowed? Who says anything has to be allowed?
I believe it says something to the effect of “all things in moderation”.
It’s all a muddle anyway.
i find it amusing how many other people on here are saying what others are “allowed” to do.
yes…
Sure, but everything in moderation. It isn’t drinking beer that is bad, it is the addiction to drinking beer that is bad.
However, Christians are not to be stumbling blocks to others. So I think if you are having dinner with an alcoholic, you probably shouldn’t drink a beer if it is going to create a problem for the alcoholic.
:] I think so.
True Story: An English minister was visiting a German minister at his home. They were eating a family dinner when the Germin minister started pouring beer into people’s glasses. The Englsih minister said, “No beer for me, please. English Christians don’t drink.” When everyone was served, the German minister started to pray a blessing on the meal, to which he concluded, “…and let us be thankful that we are not English Christians”.
Just a very little glass full
It depends on who u ask… A “Mormon” Christian will say no to even a coffee or Soda because they have caffeine…The bible says that drinking to EXCESS is bad- that U should not allow yourself to become DRUNK… It also says that it is not what u put in your body that defiles u…but it is what comes out of your mouth.
Why not? Didn’t Paul suggest that Timothy drink wine in the bible? (1st Timothy 5:23)
I signed a covenant with The Salvation Army that I would completely abstain. Personally I tried beer when I was much younger … hated it. Abstinence has been no problem.
I know so many christians that drink beer and whatever.so i guess they can.i mean you can ask for forgiveness.
Okay time for a lesson in hermeneutics. God strictly forbids drunkennes… here: I Sam 1:14, Proverbs 23:21, Ecclesiastes 10:17, Isaiah 29:9, Luke 21:34, Romans 13:13, I Cor 5:11/6:10, Galatians 5:21, Ephesians 5:18, I Timothy 3:3, Titus 1:7. This of course is not an exhaustive list becuase there are other times when God figuratively uses drunkenness to explain that you shouldn’t be doing something.
Jesus DID make water into wine at a wedding feast which must mean that it is okay to drink wine, however remembering the verses above that say not to get drunk. Both the new adn old testament stress this. Also, some people have quoted I Timothy 5:23 that reads, “Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.” The reason Paul said that wasn’t becase you’re SUPPOSED to drink wine, but because Timothy was so dedicated to the Lord that he drank only water so he wouldn’t be tempted in any way. The water that he was drinking wasn’t exactly the Dasani that we have today and it was causing him to have stomach pains. A moderation of the wine that they had during that time and the water they were drinking would calm the stomach. Also wine does have certain healing properties that help with an upset stomach; kinda like 7up.
I understand drinking to be fine. But, as others have said, getting drunk is another issue.
Well, it’s OK at the Church of the Blessed Six Pack.
Yeah, but they cannot get drunk. For many MANY reasons.. But if my husband drank, I would allow him to only drink Non-Alchoholic beer. Take no chances.
But, remember that Jesus drank Wine I believe contained alchohol. But you never saw them get DRUNK.
Why not…?
Absolutely!
Everything in moderation (including moderation).
Romans 14 through like the middle of 15 has really helped me with this issue.
I’ve heard it put this way….Sex, Alcohol, and Money have the same effect on a person. They force the person to act in a way that is not like them, therfore being susceptible to compromising their relationship with God. Those three are gifts by God and can be a beautiful thing, but they all have the potential to be very dangerous.
Cheers…*clink*
yea,
but i would get fired from church if they found out.
J
In moderation.
yes, as long as they don’t get drunk. or at least..i think that’s what the Bible says.
We seem to do it. Nothing in the ten commandments against it…
Yea, of course. Alcohal isn’t bad until you abuse and/or get dependent on it.
well a…i mean come one the first miracle by jesus was making wine, and wine has a higher alcoholic content then beer…..It’s fine, as long as you don’t abuse it
drink beer, liquor, wine; drink whatever you what AND how ever much you want to drink. It your life, drink up.
chug, chug, chug!!!!!
I wish I had a alcoholic buzz right now……
I don’t see why not.
From what spawned this question? Not that I think it’s completely worthless, there are plenty of non-Christians out there who willfully keep themselves in ignorance and glory whenever they see a Christian drinking. “there, there, see, he doesn’t follow the rules!”. Yeah. For the ignorant ones, get out your bible and turn to . . . oh, honey, any NUMBER of passages where the word wine is used in context to Christians consuming it. Timothy says to “take a little wine for your stomach”. Paul warns against drunkenness (moderation, moderation, moderation!). Nowhere is alcohol specifically forbidden. Where the confusion in the Christian ranks lies is that some people, namely souther Baptists, belief the word in it’s original greek/aramaic, refers to grape juice. Which it does . . . and doesn’t. See, it’s the same word used for grape juice that has become wine. As I see it, if God didn’t care enough to make sure there was a distinction between the two, then it isn’t an issue. Christians should argue about more critical issues than this, like whether or not salvation can be lost, if baptism is essential to salvation, etc. Alcohol? Puhlease!
They didn’t say beer,but we can definetly drink wine.
Why not? I loves me some beer.
Yes Christians can drink beer. It is drunkeness we should not become part of. And heck Jesus busted out the best wine at a phat wedding after everyone was throughly drunk. I mean if Jesus made beer like that wine, I think it would be the “King of Kings of Beers” =)
Ditto IssyMae. Though I will add that I also think a Christian shouldn’t drink if a) they’re underaged or b) it offends their conscience. It also can get tricky with “weaker brothers.”
Regarding passover, I’m not a Jew and don’t care.
Sure… it’s getting drunk that’s the problem.
Personally, I don’t drink. But that’s because I don’t like it… not because I’m morally against it.
It just needs to be in moderation…
i think it’s perfectly acceptable for Christians to drink beer. after all, in the catholic church, we have wine for communion. moderation is the key and know thyself when you drink (i learned it the hard way). and of course, stay away from promiscuity and all is swell.
Read 1Timothy 5:23
Depends I imagine on the denomination they belong to.
Our church uses grape juice for Communion.
Yes, drinking in moderation is fine. It’s the whole getting drunk thing that is being unwise we should not do. But that really isn’t such a bad thing because why would you want to be out of control? You’ll most likely do something you’ll regret later.
yes
everything is permissible according to paul. jesus drank. if someone said we’re not allowed to drink, *cough SBC*, they should be excommunicated from christianity.
The Bible says we should avoid drunkeness, but alcohol falls under christian liberty
I don’t think Jesus made non-alcoholic wine at that wedding. Whats the moral difference between wine and beer?
Yes.
I’m sure its in one of those chapters, in one those books, “Thow shalt not partake in the Wise of the Bud”, or some such thing. Well if not somebody will interpate something to suit there needs. “Cheers”
Oh Yeah , Yeah, theres that passage that says, “thow shalt not drink until he pisses himself” Yeah, thats the one. Cheers
What a weird question.
Well if not those fuckers are gonna burn in “Hell”
i think christians are allowed to drink alcohol as long as it is in moderation because the drunkenness is the sin, not the consuming of it.
this Christian does.. lol
I think a lot of people don’t take into account cultural values when they look at this question. In American culture, especially in the South, drinking is seen as off limits to Christians (let’s make that evangelical Christians). The culture is changing somewhat, but still if someone I knew saw me drinking alcohol, they would say, “Hey, look at her! Miss Goody-Two-Shoes is drinking! I thought she was supposed to be a Christian.” Because of the culture, many churches (including mine) forbid drinking or selling alcohol. So I am not allowed by my church to drink alcohol, even though it isn’t expressly forbidden in the Bible. In other countries, sometimes the culture allows for Christians to drink in moderation.
“Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.” Proverbs 20:1
wwjd?
You have got to be kidding? If Jesus did not drink alcohol, such as beer or wine, what could the intake of communion have aluded to? He would never have substituted water for wine, in His plan for the Preist to follow in Holy Communion, for the Church after His Death, Resurrection, and Giving of the Spirit at Pentacost. (That was another miracle…or was that substituting wine for water?) The Mediteranean was, and still is a sewer. The water was undrinkable. If Europeans, including any Christians amongst them, are not allowed to drink beer, because of the usual stigma, that it conatins alcohol, the result would turn out that they would all become either very sick, or very thirsty. Not to say the least, that communion isn’t even considered crowd-pleasing at all, unless it refers to the Blood of the Lamb, by the shedding of His blood at Calvary, being originally turned into blood from wine. Yes, drinking alcohol such as beer is acceptable by Jesus…He loves the sinner. Then we get into whether a church should accept into their fold, a person who would wear sandals and long hair?
i don’t know. let’s pray and ask. maybe god gives a fuck whether we drink beer. or maybe he just doesn’t want us to kill other people in our cars when we’re wasted. i don’t see any sort of correlation at all. but, yeah. to be on the safe side i’d say no beer. ever. because once that bottle is open, you don’t have the judgment not to get wasted and kill people.
Beer and wine are found all throughout the Bible—it’s what they drank, since nothing else could stay safe. Christians today can still drink beer and wine, using good judgement, and making sure they don’t abuse the privelege or let it lead them to behaving irresponsibly about anything.
NO! Christ was not a bartender, and Christians are to be sober! Read the Bible, people!
yes…in my opinion. drinking is not a sin…its when you become a glutton and drink too much…thus becoming drunk.
Is the question “can or should?” for I believe it is part of the tithe ( Deuteronomy 14:22-27).
Why would they not? Jesus clearly was for public intoxication, judging from that wedding where he gave even more wine to the already drunk crowds.
The christians invented beer! When the puritans settled in America they needed a nutritional suppliment because too many people were dying from malnourishment. They needed a drink that was high in calories and cheap and easy to make. Thus beer was born (and also why it makes you pack on the pounds. That was the point in the first place!)
I believe the Bible says essentially that getting drunk off your ass is a bad idea because it makes you stupid, you can’t glorify God, etc., but that doesn’t mean that you can’t use it at all.