July 1, 2007
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Moral Dilemma
A man raped a 10-year-old girl. He attacked her in a park and removed all her clothing and raped her. He then took her back home and sexually assaulted her.
But in this case the judge was faced with a “moral dilemma.” The girl had “regularly wore make-up, strappy tops and jeans.” She also wore a “frilly bra and thong.”
The judge said, “It is quite clear she is a very disturbed child and a very needy child and she is a sexually precocious child. She liked to dress provocatively.”
He also added, “Did she look like she was 10? Certainly not. She looked 16.”
The judge gave the man a two-year and an 18-month sentence and allowed him to serve them concurrently which means he gets credit for serving both at the same time. Since he was in jail waiting to be sentenced, he gets credit for that time and will have spent 8-months in jail for raping a 10-year-old girl. Here is the link: Link I found this issue on the site of http://www.xanga.com/mightymarce.
Since the girl looked older than 10-years-old, should that be a factor in the sentence?
Comments (242)
no. the sentence was ridiculous…
Absolutely not! Rape is rape is rape. No woman (or girl) should ever be told she was “asking for it.” That’s horrific. What, if she HAD been sixteen it would have been okay for him to force himself on her?
No. Some people want to be raped though. As found on that postnote website.
i don’t know all of the circumstances. other than she was 10.
NO! That is insane! I can’t believe people in this day and age are still blaming victims for being raped. Even if she was 16, he still raped her. She is NOT 16, however, she is 10! Thank God we now have some form of Jessica’s law in Texas: http://www.billoreilly.com/outragefunnels.
That is just…sick.
It really is. I agree with Kitt Katt.
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Thats seriously effed up.
No, rape is rape and I don’t care how od the girl looked. He still raped someone and he should get the full sentenced, not reduced. What was this judge thinking???
You know what the death penalty would be too good for people that sick. I should get to torture them.
Absolutely not!!! As Kitt Katt said, rape is rape!! It doesn’t matter if she was 10 or 35… it’s still rape! That judge is an idiot if he can’t see that.
He raped her– how is this even a question?
Someone should look into the mental stability of the judge on this one, not the girl. (Though, I do agree that ten year olds shouldn’t be dressing that way, and there is probably some underlying problem. But seriously.)
That shouldn’t be a factor at all. But I think the real question is that of her parents who let her wear thongs and dress that way at 10 years old. Though it doesn’t justify the rape, it needs to be addressed.
So the kidnapping and rape of a 16 year old, is not so bad? kidnapping alone can get you a life sentence. This judge should not lose his job. No he should be shot dead after a good anal raping. All while he siting on that bench of his, as an example to other judges.
I’m for the death penalty and all, but the other day I saw a 7 year old girl in short shorts and a bra, with tons of makeup on and I’d have to say it’s a fair treatment. He still should get more than eight monts though. 4 years would be appropriate.
Should not matter what she wore or how she looked……….she was still raped………..and she is still 10 years old. My question would have to be…..where are the parents?
No.
That judge should be removed from duty.
that is crazy. my 10 yr old cousin dresses like a 16 yr. old…b/c she is trying to be like her big sister. she doesn’t even have the slightest idea what sex is, and def. doesn’t want it. 10 yr. olds don’t even have sex drives yet. this story is ridiculous and very sad.
absolutely not! and besides, its still just as wrong to rape a 16 year old as it is a 10 year old. why is this judge still on duty? craziness!
I think I am physically sick with this one. My 14 year old looks 18. I don’t have her wear sweatshirts and jogging pants to “dumb down”. She wants to look pretty like any girl does. I don’t care how old the girl/woman is, rape is rape and it should be given severe penalities. I can think of a few penalities that aren’t in any law book – except one.
so if an adult woman got raped the suspect would only get basically 2 years in jail? that’s insane. I guess i thought it would be more. like 5 years? i don’t know.
no way shes still a minor man, throw the book at him!
wow. this story really upsets me.
geesh, i duuno. that is really a tough one.
WHAT!?!?!?!?!?! Please tell me this is a sick joke. Please, Dan, tell me this isn’t true.
it’s still rape even if she was sixteen, age doesn’t matter! i agree with Kitt_Katt_306, no woman is ever asking to be raped.
That is absolutley obscene! NO her looks should absolutely NOT be a factor in that animals sentence. What the hell was that judge on anyways? The world never ceases to amaze me.
That’ll show that girl. Dressing all slutty and all.
NO!
No, it shouldn’t!
wow. no, this is absolutely ridiculous. whether the girl was 16 or 10 she got RAPED. what if we started judging people that got shot? well, they werent exactly pure, so we will only give you a couple years instead of life. urg!
How a woman (or in this case, girl) dresses is not part of the law. The law does not read as an if/then statement. It says rape is wrong. Period. Quite frankly, the judge in this case made a disgusting call. If he wanted something to be handled about the way this little girl was dressing, then he needed to refer her and certainly her parents to family court and to Child Protective Services. How dare he do more damage to her psyche by insinuating that, at the age of 10, she was asking for anything like this to happen to her.
Sickening. Simply Sickening.
I do not have the words to express my disgust and sadness over this.
The judge is way off base! He should be taken off that job, he is obviously unfit.
No. That guy is still a sick fuck.
This was in Britain… Just to show how fucked up it is there and they bitch at us. The age of consent was 16, but supposedly she wanted it so he didn’t know what to do. I think that if it happened here they would give him a harsher sentence.
The judge was completely wrong and needs to be removed from the bench. The sexual offender needs to have his genitals removed.
Hell no. What, is it okay to rape 16 year old girls now, just not 10 year olds? When people start thinking the “she was asking for it” excuse is okay, that’s when you know our legal system is truly screwed.
what the hell?!?!! NO !!!!!! this is so freaked up. so now we can’t just wear clothes that we like because hmm, we’d get raped?! *pardon my language* but that’s just fucked up. i feel horrible for the girl..
rape is rape. no matter who perpetrates it, no matter who the victim is. this story makes me nauseous.
Dan, how can you even ask that question. The man should be casterated and put in jail for the rest of his life. The judge should be disbarred for making such a horrendous statement. I don’t care if she is 10, 20 or whatever age, rape is rape, period.
Wtf? It doesn’t matter if she was 16 or 60, if she’s assaulted, she’s assaulted. That kind of little kid pisses me off like no other, but that’s really no excuse.
Guys, guys… try to find the humor in this. The judge has an Australian accent.
Man, it’s like you have to get killed to make any difference anymore.
That judge is sick.
Rape is rape! I don’t care if she was running around wearing only that “frilly bra and thong.” (Though, if she were, I’d be seriously disturbed.) What a sick, sick world we live in.
Oooh, I get now that the guy thought she was at the age of consent. Still, age of victim really shouldn’t make any difference.
no
That is so disturbing. A woman who sells her body can still get raped – from dictionary.com: “any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person. ” …it doesn’t matter if the woman or girl is dressed provocatively!!!
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That judge ought to be shot.
That’s wrong on so many levels.
No! Girls that age don’t understand the power of clothing. They dress like that to look grown up, not to look seductive.
No! Girls that age don’t understand the power of clothing. They dress like that to look grown up, not to look seductive.
if it was statutory(in other words consentuall with the only crime being the age) then he might have one very weak leg to hobble around on. as it is… no. not at all. and, people dont seem to have read the article. this isnt this judges first go at something like this. ordering a different pedophile to give his victim money for a new bike. sounds like the judge may have a thing for the kiddies himself, hence his willingness to simply let them off.
No freakin way!! Even if she were 16, wouldnt it still be rape? Who cares what type underwear she wore, I mean no one should know that unless they are looking. My sister is almost 8 and she wears tank tops…what little girl hasnt? That is not, and should not be a factor in the sentence!
Honestly rape is rape, no matter how you slice it. It shouldnt matter if you 6 or 60 its still rape. And it shouldnt matter if your wearing sweats or a bikinni its still rape!
Age should not be a factor! He raped someone.
Hello???? 10 or 110 she was RAPED !! How she was dressed is immaterial. A RAPE was committed. And the sentence is unjust. He’ll be back on the streets to prey on more women.
If there’s a different penalty for raping someone younger….maybe. But how about the death penalty for this????????
….so, it’s ok to kidnapp and rape a 16 year old then?
no, she was still raped. he probably would have raped her no matter her age or the way she looked. women of all ages are raped. it’s not her fault that she was raped, it was his, and he should pay for it.
It shouldn’t be a factor if she was a fifty year old naked woman. He took something that wasn’t his.
That judge needs his lisence revoked, that pedofile needs his testicles revoked.
It doesn’t matter how a girl dresses, they should never be raped. Ever.
Rape is rape. No questions asked. Age has nothing to do with it. Regardless of weather she was ten, two, sixteen, thirty five—
He raped her. He should be tried.
hands down.
Hell no. Sure, the girl may have looked 16. But that’s still rape! It doesn’t matter how they dress. Pedophiles are pedophiles. If it wasn’t this girl, it would have been another.
That idiot judge needs to be removed from the bench.
doesn’t matter what you wear…doesn’t matter that you go home with the guy. doesn’t matter if you start kissing and you decide you don’t want to kiss anymore or go any further… if you say no, that MEANS no. rape is rape at ANY age.
jesus god. legally speaking, absolutely not.
No it shouldn’t matter, she is a child and no matter how she dresses, no one should touch a child like that! The judge is not a wise one…
So if she was 16, it would be okay to rape her?
So I’d like to hear this judge’s opinion on how raping a 16 year old girl is any better than a ten year old child.
Even if she looked 16, she’s still a minor, and even if she had looked eighteen, IT’S STILL RAPE!
“it’s still rape even if she was sixteen, age doesn’t matter! i agree with Kitt_Katt_306, no woman is ever asking to be raped.” -every_step_of_the_way
…Exept for that woman on PostSecret.
sometimes i hate this world
right… because it is SO much better to be raped at 16 than at 10… WTF?!?! How do these judges get on the bench in the first place… and how the hell, especially after stuff like this, do they get to stay there?
No. No ONE EVER asks to be raped. Most women are raped in jeans or nightwear. Women, girls, or teenagers do not asked to be raped. The judge should be disbared.
No. No ONE EVER asks to be raped. Most women are raped in jeans or nightwear. Women, girls, or teenagers do not asked to be raped. The judge should be disbared.
That’s absolutely ridiculous. Rape is wrong no matter what age. Gall.
so, being 16 makes it ok? give me a break. so…wearing a bra and strappy clothes obviously makes her WANT to be raped right? moral dilemma my ass. a rapist is a rapist, whether the victim is 10 or 90. … castrate him.
I don’t care if she looked 100. He raped her. Why does it matter what she was wearing? She didn’t ask him to violate her.
hell no. rape is rape. that judge is…i dont even know.
even if she was 16…it’s still statutory…and its still RAPE. he needs to be shot in the testicals and hung with fishing line.
Wtf. that is absolutely ridiculous. The girl is just TEN. She can’t be held accountable for dressing the way she does because she’s only a CHILD. The judge is an absolute idiot. Raping a 16 year old is also not ok. When I was ten, people regularly thought I was much older, even though I didn’t wear “strappy shirts” or whatever. Imagine getting raped and having a judge practically dismiss it just because I looked older. It’s sickening.
This is the most ridiculous thing ever. Just because a girl manages to imitate an older person doesn’t mean she ‘deserves’ to get raped ? Young or old, raping a female is already a crime. Furthermore, we are talking about about a 10 year old kid here. Lowering sentence because the judge factor in such a daft reason gives justice a bad name. I hope someone will reopen this case or something and sentence the bastard heavier. Phew. I feel like slapping the judge or something, i wonder if he will say the same thing if its his/her kids being in the shoes of the victim.
no! rape is rape.
it was unconsented. it was… ugh. i cant believe hes only getting 8 months.
:-/ This really, really upset me. Is there anything that we can do?
“The same judge caused uproar earlier this year by setting free another pedophile and telling him to give his victim money “to buy a nice new bicycle”.”
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rape is rape…no matter the age. what a ridiculous decision by the judge….there was not any moral dillema!!! this sends a message to this girl that no one cares about her…she has been under the care of authorities since the age of four…so why was she alone in a park? did the judge even investigate that road?
that is so ridiculous.
so she looked older then ten. rape, at any age is not right.
you are no more justified in raping a 20 year old then a 10 year old.
and if the girl was “sexually conscience” i’m sure she didn’t actually want to be raped. i’m sure if she wanted to have sex with him, lacey thong or not, she would have given her consent.
oh, is there an age limit on rape?
if she was actually 16, it’s still a stupid sentence!!! this stuff makes me sick.
Rape is rape, kill the bastard.
Um. No.
Its still rape if she was sixteen.
This judge is SICK. The girl didn’t ask to be raped.
rape is rape. The book Lucky by Alice Sebold [yes she also wrote the lucky bones] is kind of like a memoir of when she got raped when she was 18 or so. maybe a tad older. but the point is, anyone who goes through that is going to have a lot of psychological damage, no matter the age. id think this rapist’s sentence should be upped a little more. that judge sounds like a quack after reading the link.
I’m pretty sure rape is rape no matter what age someone is. I agree with Kitt_Katt.
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Absolutely not.
This judge needs to be taken out back and beaten mercilessly, then shot.
That is so fucking ridiculous. Such a load. That judge should be put in jail and the case should be reopened.
What does it take to be a judge in Britain? Not much apparently.
No! Just because the girl dressed older than she is doesn’t make that the equivalent of wearing a big sign on her back that says “Rape me, please.”
Heavens, no. Rape is rape, no matter what the age.
No and the sentence should be longer.
That Judge should be debenched and then tarred and feathered. Saying a 10 year old wanted to be raped? WTH? What’s his name? Bill O’Reilly needs to get on this judge’s case.
Well forget Bill O’Reilly . . . it happened in the UK. *shakes head* I just defended the Brits too!
The (male) authorities need to get their head where the sun shines. What the hell? Is raping a 16-year-old okay? When did that happen? Why then should a man who raped a 10-year-old who looked 16 be given such a lenient sentence? The girl is TEN YEARS OLD! Is it for the judge to decide that just because a woman or girl is sexually active, that she is “asking” for a rape? In that case, nearly every woman in the United States is begging to be violated. The ruling was ridiculous.
wouldn’t it still be illegal to rape a 16 year old? Also, isn’t it worse if they are under 18?
Even if the judge treated her as a 16 year old, rape and sex with a minor are both illegal. Two years is far too short.
How about… NO. 10 years old, 16 years old, 100 years old… no one deserves to be raped, and I don’t think women of any age dress to be raped. Should a 10 year old be wearing stuff like that? I don’t think so, but that is the job of the parents, not the judge. What a sad story.
I don’t care how you dress, what you do or even if you have slept with the person before, if you don’t or can’t say yes it is rape.
That’s really upsetting… But to answer your question, rape is rape, no matter how provocatively the girl was dressed.
that just makes me sick.
What the fuck. so he’s pretty much saying/implying that she was ASKING to be raped? people are so fucked up these days
No.
That is so screwed up. I don’t care if she ‘looked 16′. She was still under-aged and didn’t ask for it. Doesn’t this judge realize we live in a time where the majority of young girls dress older than they are? Doesn’t mean I like it or agree with it, but it’s just how it is. Sure as hell doesn’t mean she desreves rape.
No.
That’s disgusting ……..
I think the 2 should receive a harsher sentence, but I mean a 10 year old looking 6 years older then she really is? That is absolutely sickening >_>
if she looked 16.. she’d still be underaged. and rape is still rape…
Well I’m naked under my clothes so I guess that gives any man the right to do what he pleases.
Was it rape or statutory rape?
If it was a regular rap then no.
If it was statutory then yes.
that is all
not at all!!
Can we just get someone from the Insane Asylum to run this country? Oh wait, we already did that?
Big damned DUH! First, the rape of a child is the rape of a child regardless of what the child was wearing, whether the child was attractive or not, even regardless of of any “flirtations” a minor may be capable of. Children cannot comprehend the full consequences of their behavior, it is one of the defining factors of childhood.
But regardless of all that…Rape is rape. No means no. There is never a moment in sex where no means yes. To me, it wouldn’t matter how a woman is dressed or even how she acts. The first time she says NO…everything should stop.
There can be no doubt that the judge who ruled in this matter was a man who had no concept of love for his mother, wife, daughter, or granddaughter. I refuse to believe that any female judge would ever rule in this MANner.
absolutely not. this judge is basically saying that it’s the ten-year-old’s fault she got raped because of the way she dressed. no matter how she dressed or how old she looked, that doesn’t give him the right to rape her.
I guess people can’t read the question? It asks about sentencing, not guilt. Yes raping a 10 year old is worse than a 16 year old. Although either way it should still be stat. Oh well.
No,not at all.
I’ve heard of guys getting way more jail time for raping prostitutes!!! This girl must of had a really bad attourney.
this judge needs to be raped.
I think it should be taken into consideration at least, but he definitely shouldn’t get out of trouble.
I heard about something that reminded me of this… A guy picked this girl up in a bar (the girl was drinking) and they had CONSENSUAL sex. The guy later got sent to jail for statutory rape because she was 16 and he was over 25. Now, if you find a girl at a bar and she’s drinking, you’re automatically going to assume she’s over 21, right? Sometimes this stuff makes no sense.
It just goes to show the ignorance and stupidity of the world that people continue to blame the victim in some way. it’s absolutely ridiculous and annoying and it pisses me off!!
It doesnt matter how a girl looks. That’s just a lame excuse rapists use to justify the behavior. sounds like the judge himself could be a rapist.
The judge should rot in…. well you know where.
NO. WHAT THE FREAKIN’ HELL. Just because she’s older, doesn’t mean you have a special permission to rape her you sick fuck! (talking to the rapist)
rape is wrong, does it matter if she is 16?
I wonder if we are hearing the whole story here. This sound smore like the sex was consensual (Or ok between them both)/ meaning is was statacha-whatever-rape (sp?) because of age and not because she said no. If that is the case then I may be inclinded tot change my mind.
Daniel (doubledb)
It’s still rape!
no, rape is rape, that sentence is ridiculous…that girl may have dressed provacatively, but she did not asked to be raped…that judge is ridiculous
I think if that judge really wants to point fingers at anyone, he should point them at the parents.
That being said, they should burn them both; the rapist and the judge.
Sentence for rape: at least 25 years. So many rapists get out of jail after only a few years’ sentence, then go out and rape again.
that is just terrible. i want to cry for that girl and the justice system… all at the same time.
It doesn’t matter what she wore, how old she looked, whether she was 10 or 20 years old. Rape is an act of violence. What I think is sick is that the judge would even consider that a 10 year old asked for. Whether or not the girl has issues, no one deserves to be raped.
That pisses me off.
That should NOT be a factor whatsoever.
Even if someone “dresses provacatively” doesn’t mean they want to be fucking raped.
rape is rape.
NO.
It doesn’t matter if she looked 10 or 16, he still raped her. The only difference is that because she IS 10, it’s automatic rape. If she was older than 13 it would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
Rape is rape.
But I bet she learned a lesson.
Girls are way too slutty looking these days.
The man should have been jailed for a much longer time no matter how old the girl was. He’s a sex offender.
i just have to say. Girls should be able to wear whatever the hell they want. Just because it doesnt meet some peoples standards doesnt mean shit. Those people can go shove their self righteous standards up their ass. Girls may be ”less clothed” or whatever, but you can choose to look somewhere else, and rapists can learn to have self control. It’s no excuse for rape. and it’s really no excuse to judge! And to say that someone looks slutty when they dress a way YOU dont aprove of it just goes to show how childish that person is.
Absolutely not!!!! He should get the freakin death penalty just like anybody who rapes anybody should!!! I wish I could find this judge & give him a piece of my mind. 18 fucking months, and then he’ll be out on the streets ready to rape again. This is sick. This is just disgusting.
Maybe.
No, it does NOT matter that she dressed/looked older than 10. Granted, if she were my 10 year old daughter, there wouldn’t be a chance of getting out of the house dressed in what is considered “strappy tops” by today’s standards. But regardless of what she was wearing, she’s still 10! If a 16 year old had been raped, but looked 20, the charges wouldn’t be altered because she appeared to be a legal adult. Lowering the sentencing because this girl appeared to be older is just wrong!
NO! What does age have anything to do with is it right to rape her or not? I don’t care if she is 16 or 75 years old. A rape is a rape! Period!!! Jesus, things like these makes my blood boil. Sorry, I’m just mad how something this injustice still repeat itself to this very day. Instead of telling men what they did was wrong, unacceptable, and lack of respect to all women in general the judge basically said “yeah I have to punish you because it’s the law but, really she deserve to get rape. You know men can not control ourself and think of all women as sex object. She should known better to not be to wearing something attractive.” So, is the judge applying women who does not want to get rape should lock themselves up in their house wearing turtle necks, 15 pants, and all their underwear. That’s ridiculous! Women should be able to wear what she wants with out feeling she deserve to get rape because of what she is wearing.
Absolutely not! No question. This judge is a complete dodo bird. At the least he should be taken off the bench, and I think he should be investigated. I have a strange feeling there is a rape related skeleton in his closet.
This may sound like a stupid question, but what’s the difference between sexual assault and rape?
That judge is a bone-fide idiot. He should just be kicked off, period.
Everyone agrees on one point of view: no rape is condonable. No age is the ‘ok’ age. So how exactly is the judge to truly justify the sentencing?
’nuff said…
If the judge looks old enough, could he please retire?
He raped a ten year old. It doesn’t matter how old he looked. The laws shouldn’t chance just because the kid was a mini-slut.
I wouldn’t call it a “moral dilemma,” it’s pretty clear that this guy’s a creep. Same goes for the judge, from what I’ve read here.
ridiculous.
Wow, that judge is effed up. What a ridiculous sentence. So effing ridiculous. So what, she looked sixteen, it’s okay to rape her now?! What the effing hell?!
No!!!!!!!!!! Rape is rape, no matter what. Even if a 10 year-old looks 16, the man kidnapped her and raped her. Appearance and habits of the victim do not apply. If the judge could only hear the proceedings, he would most likely be less offended. Also, did the girl buy the frilly underwear herself? As she is still a minor and under working age, I doubt it. The way she dresses is affected by standards set by her maternal figure. Quite simply, common sense should have mattered to the judge. The judge incorrectly saw a GIRL as a woman. The defendant still raped a girl and she wasn’t “asking for it”! I’m 13 and look 16, so if I was raped, would the defendant still get a lesser sentence? Also, the idea of statutory rape is outdated. What many people in this society refuse to see is that the scar of a rape victim is still deep, whether they are 10 or 16! Frankly, its just wrong. Why must our society set such low punishments for these people who deliberately choose to surpass any sanity and attack a girl? Because we suck like that.
Isn’t rape always rape, no matter what the age? Who cares how old she looked, he still raped and kidnapped her.
That is upsetting. A moral dilemma my ass.
Uh, no. Rape is rape.
That’s like saying older women are fair game.
Not one stinking bit. The saddest part is that when he gets out of prison, the statistical likelihood that he will do something similar is very high. And that result should be laid at the feet of the judge who let him off easy.
This is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard. Even if she had been sixteen, or hell, forty, it would have been RAPE to force himself on to her. Believe it or not, it’s still a crime to rape adults.
The idea that clothing provokes rape is ridiculous. Thousands of individuals visit beaches each year and don’t rape people in bikinis. Rape isn’t about finding someone sexually attractive, it is about forcing sex on someone against their will. Thousands of “attractive” people and thousands of “unattractive” people are raped each year. When rapists are asked what clothing they look for in a victim, most actually say they look for baggy clothes that are easy to grab, cut and/or rip off.
a rape is a rape is a rape, he raped her, he needs to go to jail for that, no matter whether the girl was dressing provacately or not. a rape is a rape. He destroyed her life, his life needs to be destroyed.
Not looking her age, no. Dressing provocatively, yes. For example, when I was 12 people thought I was in high school, and I certainly did not dress older than my age.
Honestly, 95% of girls out there are asking to be raped when they dress the way they do. Girls: Dress modestly and you’re probably less likely to be raped. Dress provocatively and you might get raped by your own boyfriend. Or maybe even your brother or something.
I’m not excusing rapists, but if girls dressed more modestly it would make it much easier on the guys.
I think I am going to be sick.
IF they were ASKING to be RAPED, there WOULD BE NO SUCH THING AS RAPE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVEN FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT!!!!!!!!!!!!! RAPE BY IT’S VERY DEFINITION YOU MORON, IS SEXUALL ACTS WITHOUT CONSENT, HENCE NO PERMISSION, HENCE NOT ASKED FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those of you who think a girl ASKS to be raped are simply ignorant of uman rghts and of the law!
It doesn’t matter if the child looked older then her actual age. So, like if I look 21 I can go to a bar and get drunk even though I’m 17. Hmm… It isn’t right. I can’t believe that judge. He has a cold heart.
He also added, “Did she look like she was 10? Certainly not. She looked 16.”
So… if she was 16, it would have been ok? It doesn’t matter what age they look like, as long as they look good to the person. But either way, it would still be wrong.
most certainly not. it wasn’t her fault. she may have been dressing provacatively, but that doesn’t mean it was in invitation for her to be raped.
Ha ha ha. It is totally okay to rape a 16 year old. Questionable if she is 15 or younger. Because, you know. Girls that old have breasts, and they’re asking for it.
This makes me want to vomit. I hate all men. Okay not all. Just the stupid ones. So, 95% of them.
Was it the same judge who gave Paris Hilton three weeks in jail? If she dressed more conservatively and did not have a DVD released exposing her as a hoser, would she have gotten 1 to 3 years for the same crime? There should be no “moral dilema” when sentencing not only a rapist but in the case of a 10 year old, it would be a child molester. If the child be a victim of circumstance, does it make her a willing participant? I wonder, too, if the judge himself has a predeliction for young girls. Hmmm……
I’ve always said I’m not fond of rape, but who am I to tell someone what they should/shouldn’t do?
Same with most of you people and abortion.
No! For Christ’s sake, just because she dresses “provocatively” doesn’t mean she was asking to be raped.
hell no! Rape is still rape!
OH MY GOD! if anything he should be put away longer!! that poor girl.
dammit, I hope someone shoots that judge, he obviously never had an children, or he would have put that man away for as long as he deserved.
it’s not like the guy that raped her saw her thong and bra before he raped her….GOD!
What the hell is happening in America? the guilty walk free while the innocent are terrorized.
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“He raped her– how is this even a question?” ~xthread
Ditto.
did i really see someone mention abortion in thier comment?
Hello!!! Abortion is an opinion issue, Rape is a crime. Why the hell is that so hard to understand!!
I sure hope that individual never gets raped….
Fuck no, that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
Besides, rape is still rape! What the hell was this judge thinking? Is it any worse if the girl is not a child? Dan, is this for real?
This is one messed up world we live in and it’s getting worse and worse every day.
The man raped her.
Oooh so if she was 16 it would all be okay?
Who cares!
He RAPED her…. RAPE.
Who cares what the hell you wear, it doesn’t make it right.
Reading that just ruined my entire night.
Rape is rape.
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He deserves two sentences of hanging.
absolutely not. how much did that judge get paid????
that is unbelievable. . .so is the judge saying it would be okay to rape a 16 year old ? ? ? rape is rape, no matter what she was wearing.
rape is rape.
end of discussion.
not just a ‘no’, but HELL no!
16 is still underage
Rape is Rape
Thats rather prickish of the judge. No one should EVER be blamed for ANY type of abuse. Especially rape. Thats just….ugh. ANd he only goes to jail for a little over 2-3 years?!!! For rape!!! Thats not right! That little girl is going to be damaged for the rest of her life.
That is revolting. It’s RAPE, it doesn’t matter how old she looked. Two years for rape is beyond ridiculous. I’m appalled.
I think that its really bad to actually rape somebody, age doesn’t matter, but if I were to put myself in the shoes of her parents or guardian, where were they when she was on the street? Who did they leave her with perhaps. Yes it is a sick thing he did, but then again some of the blame should go toward whoever was supposed to be with this 10 year old at the time of the rape. Why was she alone? I would not let my ten year old dress 16. She would dress her age. I would do whatever necessary to protect her. An older girl/woman/adolescent knows better than to go places to put herself in danger. A ten year old doesn’t. I don’t blame the girl, but I think that somebody responsible should have been watching her. It sounds like nobody was. That is unfortunate. I don’t believe though, that this guy should have to die for that. Thats not a fair punishment either. He didn’t kill anyone. They should put her in counseling and care for her and help her with this all they can before its too late. I do perhaps think that this guy should get sodomized in prison with a very large broomstick, and then repent like a motherfucker.
so now age is a factor in rape? is rape any more or less damaging to younger women or older women? What bullshit.
Kitt Katt is right when she said that no one deserves to be raped.
even if she was dressed inappropriately for a 10 year old, even if she looked like she was 16. it doesn’t matter.
she didn’t deserve that sick fuck to touch her like that. that’s HORRIBLE!!
so that judge should be taken off the bench for the mentality that people ASK for rape… it doesn’t matter how the person is dressed, how old they are, how inebriated they are, how flirtatious they are. It doesn’t matter if they are boy or girl, man or woman, child, adult or elderly. NO ONE DESERVES TO BE RAPED.
not anyone.
not for any reason.
not at all.
and the blame needs to be put where it belongs: on the rapist, NOT the victim.
You know what, she shouldn’t have dressed provocative yes, but she looked sixteen??? Um s’cuse me but I don’t think that 16 is any age for an excuse to be present to be raped.
N she’s a minor in any case, (some ten year olds do have sex drives and very large ones I may add..) to Tine_Been019
Having not read the transcripts from the court, its impossible to decide or judge for ourselves the situation as it occurred.
However, 10 or 16, it really doesn’t matter.. he is a predator, trying to find anyone whom he can control for long enough to meet his depraved objective.
Removal of his balls is really the only thing good enough.
Its an intersting double
What? Like, really? Was there ever even mentioned that the sicko raped what he thought/or may have percieved was a 16 yr old girl? I don’t care how they dress. The freak RAPED a minor. Lock him up with Bubba and his pals. Forever or until he dies. whichever comes first.
i don’t think that ten-year-old girls should dress like that.
Uh, No! Rape is rape.
Modest goes a long way!
No its not a factor. Because last time I checked it was against the law to rape 16 year old girls too. I do with girls would not dress so provocatively, but that is a separate issue.
No, what does the way she was dressed have to do with her being violated?
The key word here is “Rape”. Forcing someone to act against their will. It doesn’t matter if she(this little girl) was walking around naked; No one has the right to force anyone against their will regardless of age,race or sexual orientations
The law sometimes reads like the bible.It is open to interpretations. Too many times i have witness criminals being set free due to technicalities.
It amazes me that this man is a judge. There is no moral dillema,. The guy attacked and raped someone and deserves a longer sentence no matter who he raped or what she was wearign!
Modest goes a long way!
-single4eternally
That’s a really fucked up response.
Just so you know.
I think we should start a petition to have that sentence overturned. A crime is a crime, no matter how you dress it up.
That horrible! Rape is rape and that judge should be removed of her/his post!
She’s 10. 10 year olds don’t even think about sex (ok, well maybe guys) but thats not why she dressed like that- she might’ve idolized some celebrity or older sister and did so. Big deal. THATS NOT THE CASE THAT HE HAD TO DECIDE. He let something completely irrelevant interfere with his choice on the case.
The deal IS that, no matter how old she looked, she was still 10 and he was so far in the wrong. Take away her age, take away what time it was, ever detail that would indicate age- now you have a man raping A woman in A park and then kidnapping her. It still wrong, still punishable for 30 years. Now, factor in the fact she’s 10. The sentence should double.
The judge wasn’t there to decide if the girl was being provocative or where her parents where or why she dressed like that- it was because a GROWN FUCKING ADULT RAPED A CHILD! Both men are disgusting and makes me question why that man still sits on the bench. I don’t care how she was dressed, she wasn’t asking for it. A 10 year old girl doesn’t even know what sex and sexual appeal is.
Since the girl looked older than 10-years-old, should that be a factor in the sentence?
No.
She’s 10. 10 year olds don’t even think about sex (ok, well maybe guys) but thats not why she dressed like that- she might’ve idolized some celebrity or older sister and did so. Big deal. THATS NOT THE CASE THAT HE HAD TO DECIDE. He let something completely irrelevant interfere with his choice on the case.
The deal IS that, no matter how old she looked, she was still 10 and he was so far in the wrong. Take away her age, take away what time it was, ever detail that would indicate age- now you have a man raping A woman in A park and then kidnapping her. It still wrong, still punishable for 30 years. Now, factor in the fact she’s 10. The sentence should double.
The judge wasn’t there to decide if the girl was being provocative or where her parents where or why she dressed like that- it was because a GROWN FUCKING ADULT RAPED A CHILD! Both men are disgusting and makes me question why that man still sits on the bench. I don’t care how she was dressed, she wasn’t asking for it. A 10 year old girl doesn’t even know what sex and sexual appeal is.
Since the girl looked older than 10-years-old, should that be a factor in the sentence?
No.
absolutely not.. this goes back to when many people were under the impression that a woman asked for it depending on how they dressed. Just becuz i wore pajamas every night to bed didn’t give my father the right to abuse me but under the judge’s comment i would have been asking for it?? i think that judge needs to be removed from the bench.
I also think any 24 year old adult with even a half of mind would be able to tell by her height or conversational skills she was not 16, if i were the child’s parents she would not have been in any park by herself tho.
blaming the victim sucks a fat one! he should be given double the punishment simply because he was dumb enough to rape someone and GUESSTIMATE her age. it’s kind of demeaning and insulting to think that the courts would lower the punishment because he thought the 10 year old looked slutty. the judge should realize that in the America we live in, 10 year olds are getting that way. he can’t stop that, but he can stop rapists. he didn’t. if that guy rapes anyone else, the judge should be disbarred–or whatever they do to judges who suck at life. but of course, the good ol’ boy system is against the agents of the system being held accountable for the actions of the people they handle. who would work those jobs if they did? but still, that seems like VERY poor judgement.
1. She shouldn’t dress like that.
2. He shouldn’t have done that.
3. He deserved way more than 8 months.
4. That judge ought to serve that 8 months with him for giving him only 8 months.
5. poor, poor girl.
First of all there should be such outrage that the judge should be fired. I could care less if the girl walked around naked the man had no right to even touch her let alone rape her. Sometime during the assault the man must have realized that this is just a baby and backed off. He needs to have his testicles and penis taken off and spend the rest of his life in jail, maybe if he is raped repeatedly he learn. I have no compassion for a “man ” like this, I’m sick to my stomach I have to leave
No. Rape is rape. It’s equally violent and sadistic.
i can always be cliche and ask “where the hell were her parents/guardians?” which does need to be asked. and do we know what her conduct was?
some kids are surprisingly “older than their age tells,” and this girl could be one of them.
*but if the advance was not invited, rape is still rape, and i think the man needs to be sentanced to a bit more than those two years or so. afterall, she was ten – and he needs to realize that part before anything else.
Even if she “looked 16″, isn’t it still rape? And while I agree that no 10-year-old girl should be wearing thongs or lacy bras, that still doesn’t neccessarily mean that she brought this horrible thing upon herself! It’s not as if guys cannot control themselves. And while I think the guy should be punished, I think the parents of the girl really need to get their act together. After all, no 10-year-old girl buys all her clothes by herself…
what a terrible thing to even suggest.
“It would’ve been OK to rape her if she was 16; lookit how she dressed!!” Wow. That’s disgusting.
That’s like people who think rape is OK within marriage, or against hookers. It’s not.
RAPE IS NEVER OKAY!!
if she dressed that way its fault. is it not? she choose to not her parents. she wants to grow up way to fast!! but still her looking 16 or 10. thats illegal and gross. and he should be punished on the main fake he raped a child that was unage. and just RAPED somebody in general. her looking like a slut shouldnt have anything to do with that!!!!
strappy tops and jeans…it sounds to me that it’s a tank top and jeans which doesnt sound immodest. Also the frily bra and thong woud be under those clothes so you couldnt see them unless you took off the clothes. So anyone who says she was dressed immodestly and shouldnt be dressed like that have no frickin clue what they’re talking about. And you can wear a tank top and jeans and not look like a slut. The only people who will call you a slut are self rightous ass holes!
I disagree with a 10 yr old child being allowed to dress provacatively but the point is someone allowed her to dress that way and she was a CHILD and probably didn’t understand the impression she was giving off.
To answer your question: 16 is still a minor! I don’t get the difference. Yeah if she was 16 and lied and said she was 19 in order to get consentual sex that is different. But it was rape of a minor whether she was 10 or 16 or wearing a thong or nun frock. What the *$@% is wrong with that judge? He feels raping a child who is “very disturbed” is less of a crime than raping a child who is niave and innocent?
no, that’s stupid. if she had been 16, would that have made it okay?
i don’t care if she looked 35. rape is rape.
even if she was/looked 16, what’s the age of consent in that state. likely older than 16.
Absolutely not. There’s no excuse for rape. If the girl HAD been 16, it wouldn’t have been any better!
Blaming the woman (or girl) for the rape because of the way she dressed just makes me furious! It doesn’t matter how old he thought the girl was, he had no business raping her. It would still have been wrong if she’d been 16 like he thought she was. He should get the same sentence as if he knew she was 10 years old.
Ugh. WHen it comes to rape, why is the victim always blamed?
He should be removed!
Absolutely not! That’s completely ridiculous.
Are you fucking kidding me…rape is rape for godsake, what does age matter in this case? Nothing at all.
Are you fucking kidding me…rape is rape for godsake, what does age matter in this case? Nothing at all.
absolutely not.
NO.
Why should the way she looks be a factor in the sentence - the FACT is, she IS 10, and she was RAPED. And I don’t care how much make-up she was wearing, or what kind of bra she was stuffing, how do you not tell the difference between 10 and 16??? Emotionally, behaviorally, and PHYSICALLY it would be OBVIOUS to tell the difference, even if she was emotionally disturbed. Oh my gosh, I cannot express my disgust enough over this. Both the judge and the rapist should die, but the judge in a much more painful and humiliating way I think, because he is prolonging the pain and humiliation of this girl and abusing the system rather than seeking to help her which is his JOB.
This is the craziest & saddest story I may have ever read. I’ve seen other comments where people are blaming her parents for letting her dress provocatively. I went to the link provided & read the article which stated that she’s been a ward of the state since she was 4 years old. Should the state not be heald responsible here as well? Why was a 10 year old allowed out at any time of day or night without adult supervision? How is she coming by these age-inappropriate clothes through the state? The whole thing does not make sense, but do they not have madatory sentences for certain charges in Britian as they do here?
no it should not matter what she wore how old she looked or any of that! rape is rape!
Wow.
That’s all I can really say to this. Wow…
What would a female judge have concluded?
No, it shouldn’t be a factor, lock the scum bag up.
But i also must say it’s pretty sick that her parents, if they’re even around, allow her to dress like that. What a wonderful country we live in *please note the sarcasm, i don’t want nasty emails*
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Heath
That’s disgusting. I don’t care how old the girl is. NO ONE should have to go through something that horrific. I’m 16, and I should hope if someone, God forbid, ever raped me, they would get the sentence they deserve. Rapists can be lower than murderers in my mind…
PS No one wants to be raped. If they wanted it, it wouldn’t be classified as rape… it would be SEX. Duh.
I think the judge is a pervert too, even him/the judge could not separate from right to wrong. Even if the girl looked like a 16 year old girl w/ makeups, the other pervert had no right to rape her! Sickkk!
That judge needs to get put away along with the rapist.
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certainly not, no matter the age….if she was 10 or 16 or 20 or 26 years old…..rape is illegal at any age. It is unfortunate that a 10 ear chooses to dress in such a way……but the whole thing is just bullshit. That judge made an awful call. That’s disgusting.
No. I mean… That Judge is a fucking idiot. It doesn’t matter if she “looked” sixteen. Hell, it doesn’t matter if she looked 25, and you know what? It doen’t matter is she WAS 25, and a bloody hooker to boot. Rape.Is.Still.Rape. And in this case, it was a bloody child! A freaking child. I wonder if the judge has children, and if he/she does, how they would feel if this was THEIR child, if THEIR child was blamed for being raped, because they “dressed provocatively”. I wonder how they would feel, if the rapist of THEIR child was only given 8 months in jail. In all honesty, that judge should be fired. It seems to me he’s not upholding justice as he should, and it seems he also has a tendency to let pedophiles slide. Someone, please explain to me how in this day and age something like this could happen. I mean honetly.
not at all! that’s probably the most lenient rape sentence I’ve ever heard!
No. Also the fact that she still looked younger than 18. Also the fact that rape is rape.
The ONLY moral dilema should have been execution by lethal injection or by electrocution. It should not have mattered her age nor what she wore that day or any other day for that matter. Rape is rape is rape. Period.
Why her parents let her get away with being dressed like that is an entirely different issue. But she did not deserve to be raped. No one does.
Women (or girls) who dress provocatively are putting themselves more at risk. However, it doesn’t excuse perpetrators.
Even if she was very physically mature for her age, it doesn’t excuse him either. Her age should have almost nothing to do with the sentence.
A 10 yr old does not look like a 16 yr old, puberty happens between then. Plus, even if she were 16 it would still be rape.
Reading this entry and that article made me feel physically sick… this is a sick world in which we live.
this judge deserves to die
Little doubt, the dude is completely just.
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