August 18, 2007
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Late-Term Abortions
Recently I indicated that it was still possible to have a late-term abortion. Several people suggested in their comments that late-term abortions were no longer possible because of a ban of partial-birth abortions.
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Comments (57)
Eeek!
Oh my! I was first o.o
I don’t like them.
I will check it out, but I thought only first trimester too.
hmmm
The law only bans one procedure, it is still legal to kill your baby after it is fully developed and could live if it were not killed. Another method is to pull the baby out piece by piece.
Some are blind and believe it all a lie. Some don’t care, and think we should kill all the babies you want to.
That’s terrible. We had better eliminate that loophole.
Oh wah wah. Gag me with the fetus.
if there is someone willing to do it, it is *not* “impossible.”
How many months does a fetus have to grow for the liberals to consider it ALIVE??
I’m pro-abortion myself, mostly because I could care less about that stupid “murder” rap those upfucks keep giving it, and also because really. There need to be so many less people in this world.
Oh yes, after all who wants a child of rape, that no one wanted in the first place out walking around? who wants them to be alive anyways? idiots who rape often end up being killed by their own children.
13th!
Children born to rape survivors and other exploited women and girls in conflict zones like Darfur may be particularly vulnerable to abuse, neglect, psycho-social health problems—and even infanticide—according to humanitarian workers interviewed as part of a National Science Foundation-funded study led by Pitt faculty member R. Charli Carpenter.
The final report of that study argues that evaluating and mitigating such risks should be a priority for child-protection advocates in emergencies, but points to a lack of consensus about how to do so in the best interests of the children.
Here is the Boston Globe article.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/08/10/shots_assist_in_aborting_fetuses/
Look, I’m no abortion fan, but I think you are misrepresenting the articles. You said something about aborting a baby that was very, very, very close to being born. Even in partial birth abortions it is my understanding that these babies are not as close to being born as that child you were talking about.
interesting. whoever that lawyer is sucks
That’s sad.
fuck Boston Globe. what do they know? most people born of rape are picked on. they are condemned. people pick on them and say they are evil and soulless. people are idiots.
YEAH ABORTION!
let people do what they want.
“partial birth abortion” is just a term for a specific procedure of abortion.
Asthma_is_Sexy
The doctor who has done more late term abortions than any other in the USA admits to doing them as late as the 38th week.
And a baby may be viable in the 21 week. Look up when amniocentesis is done. That is the test that indicates some birth defects. It not even done until after viability.
Very sad. I have a friend who was born 4 months premature. She weighed 1 pound, 1 ounce. She survived and is now a healthy woman.
It grieves me that babies who are larger than she was when she was born, are still being killed. I honestly don’t know how women can survive the emotional consequences… it changes them forever.
<What a waste of so much life.
“Low casualty rate”? It’s still 3,000 lives!!! My god. People are just spitting on their graves by saying that.
Take them out of Iraq NOW.
This was a comment on the post about 3,000 US soldiers dying in the last 4 years in Iraq. Here’s the same person’s take on killing babies:
Oh wah wah. Gag me with the fetus.
8/18/2007 10:20 AM forever_llamas
Talk about consistent.
Just for fun: there are about 2,000 abortions performed every week.
If it wasn’t for stupid ruling on Roe v. Wade we wouldn’t even be having this problem
hmm, this place is getting too crowded anyway
:X
I recall seeing a bumper sticker saying “ABORTION KILLS BABIES: Over 400 babies are killed every minute worldwide.”
If you do the math, then that happens to be 24,000 babies an hour, and 576,000 babies a day, and 210,240,000 babies knocked out of the womb-hell in a single year.
Good lord!
The whole abortion thing is just wrong. Its a baby. its ALIVE. it can live. Why kill it?
Righteousness is “right standing before God”
But we all KNOW God is not a consciousness and to attach human attributes to God is blasphemy, right?
So how can we stand right before God? How can anyone really know?
Babies, babies are… well sometimes they can be a real pain in the ass. Sometimes babies can suffer.
Sometimes a baby is better off dead.
Inject the fetus, KILL IT, GET IT OUT, what is IN MUST COME OUT, if that is the desire of the mother, because you don’t know what the fuck God wants, actually, God does not care.
Righteous is ignorant. Two more years to start my religion, and it wont be here.
Because God is unknowable.
Let abortion go. Global warming and shit. Too many people. Jeez…
There’s still other ways of going about having an abortion. The ban on partial birth abortions only bans one procedure and therefore makes it possible to have late-term abortions legally.
So yeah, it’s fine.
From This_Is_Important:
This was a comment on the post about 3,000 US soldiers dying in the last 4 years in Iraq. Here’s the same person’s take on killing babies:
Oh wah wah. Gag me with the fetus.
8/18/2007 10:20 AM forever_llamas
Talk about consistent.
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Good call.
I never understood why someone who is pro-choice should care if the baby is terminated pre-birth, regardless of how far along it is. When someone does make a distinction, to me it’s pretty arbitrary and tied to emotions (oh, the baby can suck its thumb, we can’t kill it now). Can’t people just decide when the baby is officially alive and then rule out abortion after that point? Scientifically, I say it’s conception. It’s awfully inconvenient for some, but sex carries with it responsibility, whether you’re responsible or not. [If you're thinking about rape or whatever, please don't argue exceptions. If you're right, you won't have to retreat to that.] If it’s birth, you shouldn’t mind how violently they kill the unborn. If it’s when they can survive on their own, you should be fine with them being killed up to 4 years old or so, depending on what you consider surviving on one’s own. I don’t mind if people disagree with me, I just hate the irrational thought (on my “side” or theirs).
I am Pro Life. I have miscarried. I know what its like to love a little one and loose them. It’s sad.. people get distraught when they find kittens drowned in a pail of water. but not when babies are all piled up in the garbage can.
Christina
Partial-birth abortion is just one particular type of abortion that has been banned. There are other types of late-term abortions that are still perfectly legal.
“I honestly don’t know how women can survive the emotional consequences… it changes them forever.”
Right on, IssyMae. This is what Planned Parenthood and others in the abortion industry don’t want women to know, so they downplay the gravity of the decision and dehumanize the baby by using words like “fetus” instead of “baby” and describe it in terms of a problem or inconvenience instead of a child.
I like your new format.
Maybe not so new? I’ve not been here for a while.
It’s very classy.
I’m pro-choice and even I’m disgusted by late abortions. The more human a fetus is, the more it does seem like murder to me.
-David
If there was No abortion imangine how many people would be on this Planet !
I am Not a Fan of it either , But…………………..
I’m sure there is much about our laws that we do not understand.
I’m so tired of this debate.
Hah, gag me with a fetus. Seriously.
Partial-birth abortions are fucking retarded. They made up a type of abortion, outlawed it and declared themselves the winner of the “Abortion Debate.” What the hell is a partial-birth abortion? When they take out the baby’s head while the rest is still in the mother’s womb and smash the head with a sledgehammer? Come on.
Consider this: there was a woman who was one of those heavy churchgoing, abortion hating people. She became pregnant. During her pregnancy, she was informed that her child didn’t have a brain. It just didn’t develop. Since she was against abortion of any kid, she decided to deliver the baby and then have a funeral for it. Unfortunately, when the time came, the baby would not come out. The doctor had to cut the umbilical cord and do some other things, essentially “killing” this brain dead baby. Partial-birth abortion.
This woman was shunned forever by her church. Partial-Birth abortion sucks.
Meat is murder, abortion is just a lifestyle choice. Haha.
So the fuck what? It would be okay if we all were aborted, right? I love it so, that we can debate this topic as we sit behind our grand computers and not behind a vacuum.
Thanks for Fox! how sad we think of so many ways to kill…..maybe we will success to kill hope.
No kidding…very sad that there are other ways to “kill”, and that’s the truth – that’s exactly what it is.
Abortions performed after the first trimester should be banned.
The ban is not on 3rd trimester abortion. The ban is on a specific procedure where the baby is delivered feet first except for the head. With the whole baby out and the head just inside the birth canal so it’s not a real baby yet, the doctor stabs the base of the baby’s scull and sucks it’s brain out to kill it. Then the collapsed head is delivered. If the baby was simply delivered it would be a live baby, more developed than many of the preemies in our NICU’s. There’s no need to kill the baby in the third trimester. If the woman needs to not be pregnant, life is in danger or whatever, the baby can simply be delivered.
Disgusting. Abortion should never be used as a means of birth control. No matter what the stage. I do believe that the woman has the right to choose – but I also think that it should not be a free for all. There should be time constraints as in Europe. 20 or 24 weeks is more than enough time to discover you are pregnant, and then consider your options, or in some cases to undergo testing on the fetus for problems. This one issue here is why I would never vote for the democrats. If a law cannot be passed that it reasonable – then I would have to go with no abortion at all.
Glad I waited a moment before posting my comment on here, because I was just about to use some VERY offensive language in regards to this issue. I think I recall a post of yours that asked if you would support a friend getting an abortion even if you didn’t agree, and I said I don’t think I would go with her. Well let me tell you, reading this makes me want to go with just so I can break the doctor’s nose, kick him in the groin, and then drag my friend out of there. I hate abortion, and this disgusts me. I don’t know how people can look at late term abortion and not be absolutely appalled.
My mom told me she about when she aborted my first brother, and almost aborted my current one. That changed my opinion on the whole idea forever.
Abortion is yucky. And that’s a pretty sick way to get around the ban. End of story.
Now what if the baby had a really horrible abnormality where life on earth would be hell each and every day? Would all of these “pro-life” people be willing to allow a child to suffer b/c of THEIR beliefs?
Hmmm.
THAT is taking away people’s rights. Because if you’re against abortions, you’re against ALL cases of abortion.
“Now what if the baby had a really horrible abnormality where life on earth would be hell each and every day? Would all of these “pro-life” people be willing to allow a child to suffer b/c of THEIR beliefs?
Hmmm.
THAT is taking away people’s rights. Because if you’re against abortions, you’re against ALL cases of abortion.”
I hate it when people use this argument. Who’s to say that any abnormality will deprive a person of a full and meaningful life? It’s almost selfish to think you have the right to do that to someone just because it inconveniences you to take care of them or to witness how they “suffer.” Maybe they aren’t suffering at all, they’re just living the best they can.
And for the record, most children with abnormalities or mental retardation are awkward at first but don’t mind it because they know no different. They can still be happy and live. Some of them even hate the pity people tend to give them just because of their special cases.
You’d be surprised how children rise above how they were born and can never predict what kind of person a child will grow to be, nor can you predict whether their life will be hell. That is not your decision, it’s no one’s decision, it is merely how the world works sometimes.
It’s not always belief that limits acception of abortion. Sometimes it’s purely being humble to the fact that you “never know.”
If it won’t die without injecting it with poison, I’d consider that murder.
Don’t look at “aborted fetus” pictures — that “shock value” stuff is crap. But take a look at babies born early – 4, 5, 6 months, the ages they do partial-birth abortions. It’s a pefectly formed kid at that time – weak lungs and stuff still, but still a kid with eyes and ears and consciousness, who can feel pain in the womb and when being born at that age.
and who the FUCK are we to say if some kids life is worth living? “Aw, their life’s gonna suck! Better kill ‘em instead!”
If I was born into shitty circumstances and got treated horribly, I’d still want to LIVE, dammit. Same if I got some head injury that turned me into a drooling vegetable racked with pain.
LIFE isn’t just about having a problem-free, pain-free existence. And you have no idea if a kid born into crappy circumstances is gonna grow up, get a job, and spend decades of their life doing awesome. Its asinine and selfish to say “I know their life will suck balls, so I’ll just end it for them!”
I think they’re wrong unless the mother’s life is in danger.
Gah, who cares? You can just chop’em up in teeny peices and suck’em out.
Congress pisses me off. (In the way that they make that legal. I am Pro-Life)
technically late-term abortions are illegal. they are allowed when they will cause a mother’s death or serious harm. however, it is nearly impossible to find a doctor that will perform an abortion in the third trimester, even finding someone that will do the procedure in a late second term is difficult to find.
I hate this topic, not because it is or isn’t done, or because it is or isn’t done late or early in a pregnacy. I also hate it becasue it is a topic ranted over by extremists on all ends of the spectrum. I see it as an atrocity, plain and simple. I think about the person who came up with the procedure for partial birth in the first place. What kind of person decides to so that sort of thing? I am not speaking about the millions of women who have had the proceedure done. I am speaking about the one’s who created the proceedure in the first place. Killing things is wrong, that’s my opinion. It is not a matter of controlling my own body…abortion is not controll over my female body, controll is exerted before conception…DUH!
As a society we have to raise the stakes, we have to rise above ignorance and try to see truth in all it’s forms. If I decided I didn’t like the man I was dating, it would be wrong for me to kill him and bury him in my back yard, how I killed him should not have hold sway over the truth that killing him was wrong. People even fight over whether the embryo or fetus should be concidered life, that is ignorant also. I think abortion is abusive in all it’s forms. How can women rise above the stereo type, and sexisim if we can not stop buying into ignorant common sense? The information about this debate is available for everyone to find, the truth of the proceedure, the facts about when, where, why, and how it is performed are available for all to read. I have no patience for those who make statements without knowing or even trying to understand the facts.
Women felt empowered by the sexual revolution of the 60′s, but the concept of sexual revolution is a moot point. Empowerment can only be realized through understanding and education, not bra burning or free sex. If sex is so important that we have to use abortion as a means to enjoy orgasam, then we really need to re evaluate ourselves. As for rape, when a woman is raped, she should go to the police, and they will perform a rape kit, this includes something like the day after pill.