August 19, 2007
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Porn and the Department of Justice
The Department of Justice wants the porn industry to give them some photos.
Does it violate the rights of the porn industry to make them turn over a list of information and photos of those involved in the porn industry?
Comments (83)
um…
i guess i have no answer
i think they should just let them do whatever, they’re going to get around it anyway..
Maybe.
Depends…I mean, minors are definitely in the news for exploitation and what have you. I really don’t have a yes or no on this one. =/
um…i don’t think so.
Shit, that’s why I keep seeing them on my caller I.D.
Yes. Any demands that a Government makes to a private industry/company is a violation of the rights of that industry/company.
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hope you are having a good day…Dan
Hey, if I spent my days at work endlessly pouring over pictures and videos of unwashed terrorists, I’d be looking for any excuse I could to expand my work portfolio.
I don’t see the harm to the porn industry. On the level of individual adult actors and actresses, however, is at least some infringement of privacy. Some of the lesser known porn stars, I’m sure, desire anonymity.
The Federal Government does have the right to regulate domestic industries. At this point, the good that would seem to come out of the policy and the right of the federal government to regulate industries seem to outweigh what individual privacy may potentially be encroached.
Yes! i think? this is a hard question!
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah… it is an infringement on the rights of the individual actors and actresses.
I don’t see how it violates any First Amendment rights; nor do I see the point of sending a list. It’s not like anyone is going to admit to using underage actors.
Hey- its a little late , they should have done that years ago, after Traci Lords exposed herself….
The First is one of the most abused and tired excuses for criminals to hide behind. I am exhausted for having to listen to them scream about their first amendment rights……
pale
How about we spend more time on hunting terrorists rather than porn stars.
Who cares? Porno makers shouldn’t have rights.
I don’t really mean that, but I would say that the list sounds like a theoretically sound idea, and you Americans make too much of your amendments anyway. Treat the constitution like a bible for atheists, where they can turn to find loopholes for all their various misdeeds.
I realise everything I just said was both largely untrue and completely unfair, but I’m in a bad mood.
Do they require lists from other industries to ensure there are no minors, illegal aliens, fugitives, etc. being hired? People lie and get fake IDs all the time. I don’t see how this requirement will make anyone safer.
No.
I mean, how is that different than just having a list of “credits” that are on a movie.
There is already a federal law stating that proof of age for every video star has to be kept on record and stated as such. This database of porn stars is really creepy and harassing.
Why don’t we just switch all our DVDs to blu-ray to crush porn if it matters? The federal government should buy every household a PS3 and porn will die.
Yep, I need a PS3 to fight porn.
We got some perverts in the justice system.
The Feds are just trying to tap into this billion dollar industry. Aren’t they a couple years too late after that underage chic (name escapes me) got caught doing porn and she was only 17?
Seems like a great way to waste time and people’s tax money.
yes
I’m not sure I truly understand why a list is needed. Most porn stars wouldn’t have much interest in directly harming others…. I just feel badly that they feel this is the only way they can make a living……
no, it does not.
Jenna Jamison looks like she’s had way too much plastic surgery.
Well, according to the article the only thing they want is proof of age, like a name. I don’t see how they’re violating anything since they don’t want addresses or phone numbers. I just think the moonlighting porn stars don’t want their spouses or bosses to find out their secret. I’d be worried about stalkers if I were them then, but again, as long as the list is secure they shouldn’t worry. Besides, why wouldn’t they be verifying age? That’s a good way to get shut down, judges don’t care if you didn’t know she was really 15.
Yes, the porn industry should be allowed to police itself to ensure that they are not making use of underage people. Unless, that is the industry proves an inability or unwillingness to do so in which case they feds should be allowed to come on any set and card everyone there.
they have to file for taxes…that is good enough. lazy people can go look it up or require them to say just how the made the money.
meh, seems like a waste to me…if they are using underage girls, whos going to tell, in all honesty?
why even be involved in it in the first place?
First Amendment rights!
good god people try reading it, then tell me were there is a right to film prostitution and then sell the results?
Porn is not a right. Our court system is so messed up, and most of us Americans are complete idiots about what is written in the US constitution.
That’s just a waste of time. Can’t they find something better to do?
Sorry, I could care less.
I dont really see why this would be an invasion of privacy when the profession in question is one that requires no privacy at all. It seems a bit hypocritical to me. Plus, I see no harm in giving that sort of information out if it might help track down producers who do not do age or real background checks on their actresses.
Porn is not a right. Our court system is so messed up, and most of us Americans are complete idiots about what is written in the US constitution.
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<LI class=itemsubmitter>trunthepaige (message)
What does the making of porn have anything to do with the First Amendment? I think you are crossing your own moral beliefs with what you want the 1st Amend to be about. People have the right to have sex and videotape it. It is a profession. Same goes to the consumers who purchase it with their own free will.
they just want to look at porn……….
In all honesty, I couldn’t care less
Does it violate the rights of the porn industry to make them turn over a list of information and photos of those involved in the porn industry?
Yes.
I really don’t know about this one.
Am I remembering incorrectly, or wasn’t Jenna Jameson making pornographic videos as early as age 15? I think it was her anyway.
I would like to know how this violates the first amendment? The article does not say specifically how, and we can’t continue to make everything a freedom of speech issue. It certainly couldn’t be freedom of press–no news. No religion. No peaceful gathering if there is an underage child involved. I think it would be stretching it to forbid this law based on the first amendment. Sorry, porn stars.
Ok so someones claim this is a right, were in the constitution is it? were is this right? You say it is in the frist amendment but I am sorry having read it I can tell you that that right is not there
I think that’s a reasonable request given the nature of that industry.
No, I think they are just trying to protect the exploitation of minors.
No – the goverment can request info from anyone at any other type of job, so why not porn?
If i am wrong on this, though, someone let me know
Daniel (doublebd)
Trunthepaige:
It’s not about what’s in the Constitution, it’s about what isn’t. Just because it isn’t in the Constitution doesn’t mean that the Government can do whatever they want, as long as the Constitution doesn’t specifically forbid it.
The Government was NEVER given the authority to demand anything from a private entity or company, and therefore, it doesn’t have it.
The DOJ just wants to watch porn themselves. I agree…..what a waste of time and tax money! Good grief!!
The Government is just looking for names and age…that’s it. They’re trying to uphold the laws they’ve already passed: that minors can’t be in porn.
Heaven forbid our government do something it’s already supposed to be doing. The only other way is to add a box on everyone’s tax form that says “Put a one in this box if your image appears in a pornographic film of any type.” I’m sure THAT would go over well with the rest of the nation…
Yes, as much as we might not like to think so, this is a “private” industry. You don’t see the government going around asking for all the plumbers, wait staff, and taxicab drivers to turn in their photos and personal information. Good grief!
I think they just want some pictures.
First Amendment right to what? Freedom of Speech?
Hah, kids can make porn vids by themselves. All they need to do is buy a camera
Down with the American porn industry. That way overseas imports will make bigger profits!
Everyone wants America to lose all their money.
Tricky position, but I essentially agree with this guy:
“Yes, the porn industry should be allowed to police itself to ensure that they are not making use of underage people. Unless, that is the industry proves an inability or unwillingness to do so in which case they feds should be allowed to come on any set and card everyone there. mrcolorful ”
Porn is a industry, with it’s own rules and regulations. Let them come up with a method of meeting this new law without being made out to be in the wrong.
’nuff said….
It seems unnecessary.
The Dept of Justice just want to be able to contact them directly for personal shows.
Are the feds honestly naive enough to believe that this list will lead to anything concrete?
This would never work… there’s too much amateur porn on the internet to ever hope to catalog all that shit.
I think it is a great idea!! Best thing I have heard for awhile. If you are a porn star, you aren’t hiding anything anyway.
There are too many amateurs for this to work.
-David
I don’t think it violates the 1st amendment.
People have the freedom of speech…and the government has the right to know who’s “ahem” …”speaking”.
i think so, but i think it violates the rights of the actors and actresses more than the industry itself.
Good for them, it’s violating no one. I think that if protects the kids which I KNOW get sucked into BS like that then it shouldn’t be too much to give a name and such. Privacy violations??? Well um if you star in a video on the free market then it isn’t so private is it???
No…if they want to be “stars” they have to put up with the attention. (So, are those really her shoulders or were they digitally enhanced?)
I like the idea…and yet. the law exists, but how to enforce? There is an assumption of guilt here…or is it simply a compliance issue? Why not dept of commerce? I think that is more their area. The justice dept shoule strong arm commerce for industry to comply, with fines. But maybe only upon request, like we do in seafood industry. Not all names all the time. But power to investigate at any time, etc.
This is another one where I haven’t a huge opinion in one direction or another. It sounds like a good idea, but it will waste valuable governmental resources that can go towards something else.
The porn industry, I daresay, already has enough rules and regulations to follow. The government should focus its attentions to the home porn videos that so often depict minors. So, instead of asking for lists of names and photos of porn makers and actors, why not focus on underground internet sites? Focus also on the boylovers and girllovers websites and their users. There are better ways to combat child porn than asking for lists of names.
Sounds like a patriot act deal…
yes… I don’t see how this would protect minors in any way. I’m PRETTY sure that if you want to be a porn star, you have to show ID to prove your age.
It’s the UNREGISTERED porn that’s made at home that people need to worry about.
No. They are protecting monors. Let the lazy people complain that its a trap for poor record keepers to get porn off the market. Its not, its protecting minors. Normal businesses have to keep records to prove they are legit.
yes & no
I don’t approve of porn – but it’s bit of McCarthy-ism if you ask me. Where is the line?
They probably already have the list anyway, just not overtly.
The Dept. of Justice really only has the right to make this demand on current and future models, not ones used in the past. The logistics of it is simply incredulous. This is a huge waste of time and money. Who’s going to pay to monitor this? I already know the answer, I’m looking at him in the mirror. More subvertly, it’s going against the real reason they want the information… Children and Families are such a right wing red herring.
no i dont think it violates their rights… i think the idea to protect minors is great! besides, if they’re the ones doing that, that those ppl should have no problem keeping records of who they are… it’s part of them as ppl (or their current choices)
No. It’s not like some society that has to be kept secret for their protection. I mean, they’re in videos having sex. That’s pretty open. What they do for a living isn’t exactly a secret.
Manly woman.
They are only against it because they would have to pay taxes on the money they made banging each other if the government knew who they were and how much they worked! Damn government always wanting our money!
They r a billion dollar industry, Im surprised they dnt have more prominent lobbyists. N just how r they gonna regulate amateur porn, where sum non-actor cpl of genetic aberrations r humpin out an appalachian poster child? Let d porn ind. agree to give a list when d govt gives us Ladens head.
The government does not need files, if they suspect underage actors then the can get a warrant and ask the production company for necessary records.
It is a violation of the Porn Industries rights, and doing this sets a precedent for the violation of all our rights.
how about we take all that money and use it for healthcare and education. yeesh.. we got all our priorities outta whack.
hah.. that list is gonna keep going after a gazillion pages. .. good luck to them.
however, i have learned through a law class that if it’s CHILD porn, it is no longer protected from free speech.
if the industries are so into the free speech rule, then ALL of their sex stars better be of legal age.
i can see those industries with the 11yr olds fighting for Free Speech rights . HAH!
oh.. and we can’t forget that YES, a lot of videos aren’t even ‘professionally’ done..
I’m not too sure about this one. I want to help kids stay away from being in the porn industry but, I see it does violates their rights knowing all their informations.
It sounds like 1 of 2 things are going on either 1: The producers are trying to cover up the fact that they use under age kids. or 2: the actors are embarrassed people will find out who they are…in that case they shouldnt be doing it in the first place.
I think so.
Talk about invasive and unnecessary.