November 19, 2007
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Paternity Test
As I mentioned in my photoblog, Australian men’s groups are wanting mandatory paternity test on all newborns.
They have a more men that are finding out they are not the fathers of the children they thought were theirs. In fact, almost 25% of men getting a paternity tests are not the father. Ten years ago, the ratio was one in ten. Here is the link: Link
Do you think all newborns should be given paternity tests?
Comments (96)
FIRST!
I’m not sure.. But I could have lived without seeing that picture.
Ok.. here is what I think. Yes. Bitches screw guys all of the time with pregnancy. Even people who have been married for a long time, you never know. I know if I was a daddy and not a mommy, I would worry (“Was this bitch cheatin’ on me?”) I think I watch too much Maury.
It may help someone in the long run…………..
I don’t like that, but if it’s fast like a quick poke in the heel (which they get ANYWAYS), then do it.. DO IT!!
Unless it’s a huge long deal and they have to poke a baby a lot
Wow, that’s really sad. If they can’t trust that their significant other isn’t having sex with other men, then, well, they shouldn’t be having children together. Also, Dan, was there a need for the hairy man? Google Image Search is to be used for good… not evil.
I don’t think it’s necessary in every situation, but there’s nothing wrong with it being required if there’s a question of fidelity, etc…
I don’t know 25% seems kind of low to be requiring a paternity test. Especially since you wouldn’t be getting a paternity test unless you thought it likely that the kid wasn’t yours.
The truth hurts sometimes.
I think wives should submit to their husbands and husbands submit to their wives.
ONLY.
And what’s with Australia these days? Isn’t that where Santa can’t say “Ho, Ho, Ho?” They’re falling apart faster than the US, I guess!
No way!
some things are better left alone, eh?
No, it’s a waste of resources. Some kids? Sure. All? No way.
Sure.
RYC: That’s where I am getting the money for today, from money that is taken from Kevin’s check each week. But, house taxes are due, also, so that’s where more than half of it is going.
Nope. Some people are better off not knowing.
I think the rate of babies with no fathers would go up if we did that.
No. But God, women should stop acting like bitches and men should stop acting like bastards, then the problem wouldn’t exist in the first place (or at least wouldn’t be so large, God!).
I, too, could have done without the picture! And where did he get that 1970′s style haircut?!?!?
How is it that these men don’t know their women better? Could it be that this is a result of the decline (in my opinion) in social moral values where monogamy used to be considered the desirable standard? Humans were not created for multiple partners. Dogs, cats, etc. operate in that way, but humans were meant for something higher.
Ok, I’m off my soapbox. I’ll probably get some rebuttals on this.
Concerning the question, I don’t have an opinion.
Well if the lady in question knew there was no way the baby could be anyone else’s, then what’s the problem with the paternity test? And if she thought it might be someone else’s then the gentleman in question should be notified.
Sure, if someone else pays for it.
I am faithful to my husband. When i took my vows i promised that i would always be faithful….he knows that and he trusts me and i him so we would see no need have to give our children a test like that.
Bleh,who cares.
Don’t know why not, if that’s the case. And as long as they can pay for it. I’d be screaming if it was coming out of my taxes.
If you wanna save on child support…the way to go.
If it’s that big a problem, maybe so. It might be more effective for men’s groups to promote condom use instead, though.
P.S. The guy in the picture looks like he escaped from Saturday Night Fever.
wow… this is sad….
If trust is that much of an issue, I guess it would make both parties feel better. I think they should also test those guys for STD and AIDS before they ever stick their “you-know-what” in another human being.
ryc:
Thanks for mentioning that you watched Alicia Keys’ video on You Tube. Always forget about having that, but going there now, hehe.
Have a great day, dearie.
Lelo
i think it is a fine idea…
ummm i think there was a reason for blood tests before marriage….
didnt/dont we trust then?
might give some people a reason to behave
No
No, I don’t think it’s necessary to do it for every child.
Well, in my opinion, if you choose to be involved with someone UNTRUSTWORTHY, you get what you deserve. Once the trust in that area has been broken, there’s no going back. And besides, the paternity test works both ways in trust. How does the woman feel when the man didn’t trust her and wants a paternity test and the test comes back that he IS the father. Seems that would bring about a lot of sorrow and hurt that the man didn’t trust her when she did nothing to deserve being mistrusted. Again, it all comes down to the type person you let yourself get involved with. One other thing about a paternity test, it doesn’t fix any problems, it just confirms something one way or the other. There will either be anger on the part of the man if the child ISN’T his or anger on the part of the woman if the he is the father. Moral to the story, only get involved with someone you KNOW you can trust, and abstain from sex til marriage. That should get some folks disecting my comment LOL!!!!!
No. If the family would live happily with the man assuming he’s the father, leave it alone.
I also think this is really bad towards the women. It’s basically calling all women whores.
Yes
I think it should be an option for couples, but mandatory seems problematic to me. Perhaps, if it’s that serious of a problem (which I don’t think it is) then have it as a standard procedure that couples can opt out of. If I married a man and was expecting and he told me that he required a paternity test, you better believe there would be some major trust issues from him simply requiring it. I would start to doubt his fidelity since so many people who are cheating tend to turn on their significant others with accusations.
This really is a sad statistic. I wonder what the percentage would be in the U.S. I think that a paternity test might be a good idea. A child has potential to inherit certain medical tendancies, so if the father is another then it is useful to know. Also, there are legal ramifications concerning parenting. Also, it might keep men and women more honest.
Either way, this should be another piece of evidence that God’s way was, is, and always will be the best.
Men think it should be ok for them to have sex with women before marriage, and often have affairs after marriage, should they be surprised if women don’t consider the marriage as sacred as it used to be, either?
Of course, if I were happily married and the test were standard procedure, I may choose to demonstrate my fidelity as a way to show him that I’m trustworthy… if the couple is in the right mindset then the test could be something that brings them closer together. I still think that would be the exception rather than the rule, but it’s certainly another aspect.
this reminds me of the Maury episode that my best friend and I thought up. I would go on with her daughter, N and my husband. Let me set this up for you, I’m a red headed white girl, the husband is asian and N is 1/4 black, 3/4 white.
So we would roll up on the show and Maury would ask my husband, “why dont you think N is your child?” and he would be like.. “because I dont think she looks too much like me”
and i would cry and throw a shoe and say, “but she has his eyes!”
and the audience would boo and hiss and Maury would bring out the dna.
“well, we have the proof in this envelope right here. Husband, it turns out..
you are not the father!”
and the audience would howl.
“But there is more!” Maury would exclaim, “S, you are NOT N’s mother!”
and pandemonium would ensue…
he should so have us on for sweeps week.
Wow, I didn’t realize the numbers were that high. Yea, it is very sad. I still don’t know about mandatory paternity testing. I am all for optional testing.
I think all “coupling” should be done under the contract of marriage. That would eliminate STDs, AIDS and the like. But…that’s in an ideal world. If you just “screw” around and don’t spend enough time and emotion in a relationship before thinking it’s “love” then one certainly will suffer the consequences. If a man doesn’t want the responsibility of parenthood, well then he really should think several times over whether he want to spend the $1500 up front for a paternity test or spend the next 21 years supporting a child who is not biologically his. Once he makes the choice to go for the expense…he then knows for sure. If he doesn’t… accepts and acts like a parent for a number of years….he should NOT BE allowed to take the damn test! He “is” the father!! BIOLOGY is NOT that factor which makes a man the father.
I would like to think that a father would know that his wife’s child is his own.
“A wife of noble character, who can find? She is worth far more than rubies. Her husband has full confidence in her”
But, I suppose there ARE those couples who may wonder if the child is or is not theirs. And I suppose they have a good reason to get a paternity test.
Well its a sad fact that too many people are either messing around, worse still is that its to the degree people are no longer certain who fired the round that made the baby. Still I think its up to the individual to decide.
naw only if the couple really want to know. It shouldn’t be absolutely required
Scary statistics.
Given the low risk and relative low cost of paternity testing, a general policy for testing seems like a no-brainer.
All newborns…no. Only 25% of them.
I had to, with my daughter, so she could get her dad’s insurance, I even changed her last name to his (darn). Go ahead and do the test, it’s just a little prick anyways.
They should only test if there is a significant possibility that the father may not be the father. I couldn’t imagine how difficult it would be to not know the father of my child. That jump in the ratio is crazy…are there more and more people being unfaithful?
Since they already take a blood sample, it isn’t too hard to imagine taking a sample of that blood and running it through an entire low-cost genetic screen (including paternity.)
Work out the privacy issues, and it’s almost bound to become part of normal life. I’d guess 15-20 years.
You’ll probably see a slight bump in abortions though from the unfaithful women who don’t want to be exposed.
sounds good to me
I think it should be up to the supposed dad. If he has doubts, do a DNA test.
i dont see why not but that is pretty sad.
ryc: you shoudl buy it for me. LOL! no i just got tired of paying $4 a month and im too cheap to get a package deal. its not a necessity and i have better things to spend my money on anymore.
If the kid comes out a different color than the father…sure. I’m just kidding!
I think this would be a good idea but it could be costly in the long run…however, it will kill any doubt the father has years down the road. I still can’t understand why women have to cheat on their husbands. IF she does get pregnant with another man’s baby then either tell the husband or get an abortion, don’t hide it and lie about it. There is no point in lying for so long either because now the child has to grow up unwanted. I wouldn’t want my husband thinking I have deceived him in any way. I’d willingly get a paternity test if ever any doubt arose.
No…that is just wrong. You go to court to get the paternity test if you wish to determine paternity. Anything beyond, to me, is an infringment on the mother’s right to privacy. The simple truth is you don’t pay until you determine parentage. If you choose to pay without the bloodwork, then you are just a big sucker.
fuck paternity tests… australian women need to stop being fuckin whores.
yeah, fuckin whores
25% is a lot of men! A fourth of all babies aren’t even theirs? What’s going on in Australia????? I guess it’s only fair to make sure they are fathering their own child.
25%?!? That is unbelievable. I just watched a Gilmore Girls episode about this kind of thing.
I don’t think it should be mandatory. It should be up to the mother and/or father.
I imagine that the number of abandoned mothers/babies would increase by a lot…
I dont know if all men should of course if theirs a case that the man is questioning if their child is theirs then by all means they should get one, but to just give them to all men may start arguments within the homes of these families.
It should not be mandatory but available when necessary.
Poor Amber.
Why are people having unprotected sex with strangers? Why should baby’s have to suffer because people are selfish? People need to take responsibility for themselves and look to the future instead of just the moment they are experiencing right then. It is sad that people are having sex,randomly with people they neither like or respect!
I don’t think nothing good will come out of this system, seriously. I agree with one of the comments above that, more babies will end up fatherless if you do that. And, this isn’t fair at all, we do not (and cannot? ARGH) run a test on the males whether they screw around. People should take things as it is, and if you love the female, love her baby even if it is not biologically yours.
TheWistful
don’t think nothing good will come out of this system, seriously. I agree with one of the comments above that, more babies will end up fatherless if you do that.
You would rather have the alternative: Falsly assinging non-Biological fathers to children and forcing that “father” to pay two decade’s worth of child support?
People should take things as it is, and if you love the female, love her baby even if it is not biologically yours.
All a paternity test provides is information. Better decision would be made with more accurate knowledge. The man still has a choice, even if the child isn’t “his.” The only difference here, is a more informed decision.
I guess it should at least be optional. I’ve worked with newborns for years and one would be surprised how many fathers pull staff aside and ask about the babies blood type and if it excludes him as a father.
up to the parents (or mother, I guess)
It should only be given if the husband suspects something, that would just be too expensive
The problem is how accurate are the paternity tests.
I mean I know that they say DNA testing is almost infalible, but they were saying the same about finger printing just ten years ago.
Look at howmany prisoners have been let out of jail because DNA says the opposite of fingerprinting.
Have you ever cover that question Dan?
no. Only in cases where there is a question of who the father is. Why open a can of worms?
RYC: It’s all right. In the throes of incredulity I can get a little… hot-headed.
Even one in ten is enough to be getting it. . .I mean if one in ten men are forced to help take care of a child and pay child support to a child not even there’s. . .that’s sad. . .I mean the child could use a father, but making them think they’re something biologically when they are not. . .is sad. . .
nidan
The problem is how accurate are the paternity tests.
I mean I know that they say DNA testing is almost infalible, but they were saying the same about finger printing just ten years ago.
Pretty damn accurate. Unless 1.) The person has an identical twin, 2.) The person has a clone, 3.) The lab tech was mentally incompetent (mislabeled, switched samples).
doughhgirll
Why should baby’s have to suffer because people are selfish?
Babies themselves are products of human selfishness.
I think if there are any custody/ child support issues then yes. But I don’t think it’s necessary if the couple don’t want it or think it’s necessary. It shouldn’t be mandatory if the family unit is still intact.
Um…nope
Have a good day…Dan^^
if the father wants the baby too.
i think they should…would be best to know then than later!:P
and any women that have a problem w/ it it…stop being whores!.lol.:P
so,YES!
That is just disturbing.
I think they should….of course what would be on all the talk shows and court room shows?!!!
It’s a simple test and a verification of a fact. For those of you who keep saying people should always use protection etc etc, nothing said those couples weren’t married. It is not the man’s fault if the woman cheats on him and if he doesn’t WANT to he shouldn’t have to pay for a child that is not his.
The guy in the picture looks creepy. I hope he doesn’t reproduce.
There seems to be a widespread misunderstanding of the 25% statistics. It isn’t that 25% of most Austrialian births are out of wed-lock or out-of-relationship. The statistics is of the percentages of men who actively seeked and obtained a paternity test. These guys probably had strong suspicions or hunches as to the child’s parentage.
Likewise, most men in Alcoholic Anonymous meetings have had drinking problems. This doesn’t mean taht all men have drinking problems
Considering the failure rate of marriages, perhaps it’s a good idea.
Almost 25%?! That is absolutely pathetic. I wish people who screwed around on their significant others would either stop cheating or just not reproduce. Ugh. However, I would not necessarily support paternity tests being a requirement. I’d rather let suspicious men decide whether to get a paternity test than to have the government make a blanket decision about everyone.
It’d be nice to know if I was the father of my own child. In this specific country this is definitely a good idea. Definitely kills future problems involving child support and other legal issues.
I don’t see why anyone would be against it so long as the father is charged for the test and they don’t subsidize it from government taxes. Maybe make it an optional but recommended program. That seems to be the best idea to me.
-David
I guess if there was a question about it then they should have the opportunity for one..but if they are married or something and there has been no foul play…thats just insulting! The man is basically calling his wife a slut.
I think if the couples are unmarried yes. I know some married people cheat but I think it would be a waste to be testing babies of married couples, I’m sure, or at least I pray, most married people are faithful to their spouses.
I don’t see why not.
I would hope that men trust their women. I have advised several young men that I know though to get a paternity test on a child. Unfortunatly, there are women that like to play guys by tricking them into thinking a child is his, when they know it’s not. Usually, these girls want a “cuter” guy, or one that has more money than the “real” father.
not mandatory. idk, i’d just find it offensive.
yes!
Unfortunately, YES. Especially from a genetics standpoint.
I really don’t know… That fact is rather disturbing.
Maury would be off the air.
Very sad. If the couple are married and committed to each other, and there is trust, there should be no reason for this.
If there are definitely times/dates in question and valid reason to believe there is a doubt about baby’s paternity, then if he wants a test, get one.
NO not unless the woman is a whore.
Well, if 25% are finding out they’re not the father… then hell yeah! Truth like that can hurt worse down the road, but the bond between a father and son is unbreakable (if done right). I adopted my oldest son, and I will always be his father. How do I know this? Well, at the wise old age of 9 he told me so. ‘Nuff said. lol
> Nope, unless Dad absolutely insists, and will foot the bill. Who else should pay for it, the taxpayers?
Peace
Not as weird as having your significant other’s name tattooed on your chest. They may leave, and unless the baby’s mom lied, your kid will always be your kid. Basically the chances of your kid not being your kid are less than the chances of that girlfriend/boyfriend leaving you.
I don’t think so. It should be the parents choice whether to have a paternity test. Why stir up problems when you don’t have to? It seems like mandatory paternity tests will just lead to a lot of additional broken families.