November 28, 2007

  • Christian Intolerance

    A teacher used the name of Jesus in vain in a classroom in Florida.  She now faces up to six months in prison.  She named a stuff animal “Jesus” in an obvious attempt to turn the students away from God.

    She is Muslim and does not care about Christianity.  The maximum prison sentence for this six months in prison or 40 lashes.

    In jail ... British primary school teacher Gillian Gibbons.

    Here is the link:  Link

    Do you ever get the feeling that the religious nuts are taking over this country?

                                                                 

Comments (139)

  • you mean to make em turn to God?

    how is it in vain?

    and if i read about it, yea.

  • I don’t but come on… she sounds like a bit of a nut too…

    What kind of person knows you can’t pray in public schools but still brings a reliegious name in…

    Can you say stupid idiot? I don’t think jail time is right but dismissal… yeah.

  • I thought this chick was an English woman in an Arab school and called a bear Mohammad….

  • wait was this the woman who named a stuffed animal “muhammad”?

    befuddled me.

  • It started with the Jews.

  • {and the lightbulb goes on} ^^

  • Blame it on California. isn’t that where the fruits and the nuts come from?

  • The link has nothing about a woman in Florida…. where are you getting your info???

  • HEAVENS, YES.

    Very interesting way to frame your post!

  • The other side(non-christian) need a taste of their own  medicine.

  • I can already see that most commenters will completely miss your point. 

  • How does that saying go? You can fool all of the people some of the time…blah blah… but you can fool some of your readers all of the time?

  • WOW. how many of your READERS actually don’t even bother reading your posts or the links?!?? 

  • Dan, keep this up and you’re just going to contribute to the massive disinformation of stupid uneducated Americans! ;p

  • Okay! So I missed it for a second…. give me lashes!!! :)

  • While I find her actions insultive, I don’t think she should be fined or whipped for her blaspheme.

  • Clam down everybody, I read that article yesterday. 

  • No.

    I think other countries have been taken over by them, though.

    ryc: Thanks Dan, you freaked me out there…I had to double check! lol

  • I’m pretty sure no one will read that article.

    Live from the same producers who brought you the classic, “Darfur,” yet another excellently produced masterpiece depicting the peace, tolerance, and mercy of the Muslim world.

  • I’m very confused with this post.

    Where does the article say the school was in Florida?

    I thought it was out-of-states.

    And since when was the stuffed animal named Jesus?

    I’m not sure if this is a test to see how many of your readers actually read the article

    But I guess it’s more SARCASM

  • No, it is nuts of all kinds who have taken over the country, not just the religious ones.

  • I don’t know if it’s really about “religious nuts” taking over the country. We are, for the majority, a religious nation. However, what that teacher did was wrong. We have religious tolerance in this country, and the fact that a teacher wants to turn children away from a faith is intolerance. Our country was built upon tolerance. She deserves everything she gets. By saying Christianity is wrong, the teacher is not justifying her religion as being perfect and right. If anything, she’s making our school systems even worse than they were before!

  • Haha okay wow. I need to read the link beforehand, it seems. Even so, though, no matter where religion is, it should be taught with patience and tolerance. Never with disdain towards another’s beliefs.

  • Nicely done, Dan.

  • According to the link, it would appear that she did not exercise good judgement.  While she is a teacher, and an english person, she’s most definately in the minority and subject to more critical inspection.  If it were I in her position, I would be VERY careful to ensure to not offend anyone.  Do I think that Religious Fanatics are taking over our country….quite to opposite, I think that there while there are a few fanatics, people with in the common masses are living less and less according to faith based beliefs OR of beliefs of thier own making.

  • She wasn’t in Florida she was in Sudan, maybe you should rephrase your question. No one was charged with taking Jesus’ name in vain (which wouldn’t happen in the US since you can say whatever you want….except the “N” word) she was charged with naming a Teddy Bear Muhammed, which is an insult…somehow.

    But to answer your question. Our country isn’t being taken over by religious nuts, but it’s those nut jobs that make the news and make an ass out of themselves making the rest of the Christian community look like a bunch of holy rollers and faith healer. We aren’t all idiotic buffoons, we just believe in the saving Grace of God.

  • HOW DARE SHE TRIVIALIZE OUR PROPHET AND ATTEMPT TO DEPICT AN IMAGE OF HIS HOLINESS?!?

  • Dan your link was about a Brittish teacher in the Sudan, not a Muslim teacher in Florida I think you got your wires crossed.  but my comment is still applicable.  You shouldn’t walk into a predominately Christian culture and start using a saviors name lightly any more than you can be a English person teaching in a muslim society and use thier Prophet’s name lightly either!

  • That sounded so implausible that I had to read the actual story, and sure enough… ;) I’m probably a bad person for this, but it cracked me up. “What has happened was not haphazard or carried out of ignorance, but rather a calculated action and another ring in the circles of plotting against Islam.” hahahahahahaha….

  • Yes.. Christians, mostly.
    Then again, I don’t watch the news so I’m not too sure about the others.  Never hear anything about Pagans/Wiccans though

  • The students can still choose their own religion. Really, naming a stuffed animal as a prophet of any religion is insulting, and perhaps she should be dismissed or forced to become more sensitive to the religious views of her students but jail is excessive. So are lashings.

    Nice job confusing people, Dan.

  • 40 lashes? people still do that in america?
    anyway, there are students in my school who make fun of Jesus all the time. i don’t see them getting arrested or even reprimanded.

  • I think Dan is testing to see who actually reads the articles.  When in Rome do as the Romans do.  If you can’t follow the laws of the country you are living/visiting/working in you deserve the punishment they give out.  It was a stupid thing to do.

  • Everyone’s fuckin’ nuts.

  • I hate how the only religious people that non-religious people see, are the crazy ones.  

  • Jesus is a fairly common hispanic name.  I don’t see how giving that name to something is an insult.  Even in his own time, there were other men named Jesus.

  • Really, I, too, wonder how many readers think.

    Honestly, it is insane to give someone 40 lashes for a religious offense.

    However, in the US, one shouldn’t “take the name in vain” of ANY deity in class.

    But if you have a bear who happens to be named like the deity, that’s personal preference – as long as you aren’t openly mocking religion, np.

    All depends on how it was done… but it should have nothing to do with whether the woman was promoting her own religion or slandering another: in the US, neither should occur in a public school classroom.

  • Looks like someone was bored here…  

  • Fun twist. I wonder if any will catch it.  As for our country, the tolerant police seem to have taken over. As long as one lines up with their brand of tolerance, one can be deemed tolerant. 

  • I just read the link.  Muhammad is also a common name.

    The world is filled with nuts who take religions and carry them to absurd extremes.  It is no wonder a lot of people come to thing that the world would be better off without religion all together.

  • Your point is lost on most methinks.

    I am grateful for free speech, even in a world of stupid people.

  • That is riCOCKulous about that lady.

    Who cares if she named it jesus.

    Religion is overrated. Jesus. God. Myth or not, I’m not buying it and yes I was given a bible once and I threw it away……send my soul straight to hell. But let me grab my hash pipe first :)

    Nature is my religion.

  • I think you’ve gone nuts!  You have your stories confused! 

    To answer your question, no I do not.  If “religious nuts” were taking over this country, and you mean Christian “religious nuts,” I’d like to think that we would see children studying the bible in school, praying before lunch, saying the pledge before class starts, less lying, less crime, lower divorce rates, and more morality.  Sadly, for whatever reason, the “religions nuts” pop there heads up here-and-there, but they definately have NOT taken over the country…not even close!

  • This seems like a parody to me, but I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

    In any case, I fear religious nuts taking over the country, but I know that most Christians don’t fall into that category. The Falwells and the Robertsons all get their publicity and have their followers, but that sort of thing isn’t going to last.

    Having said that, I do think it was insensitive no matter what religion she was… satirizing? What the fuck was she even doing?

  • i thought this was in sudan?  but to answer your question, yes, extremism of any kind is a bad thing.  religious extremism included.  that is what is taking over and it is very uncool!

  • only all the freakin’ time!
    seriously — it’s gotta be unconstitutional to go to jail for something like this!!

  • Haha, Dan, you almost got me.  Of *course* it happened in Florida, no?

    And that punishment is ridiculous.  They should just reprimand the teacher and take the teddy away or rename it.

  • Mrcolorful stole my answer. Extremist nuts of every kind, not just religious, have hijacked reason and civility in this country.

  • Wow, nobody here is getting the point of this!

    PEOPLE, READ THE LINK!

  • Yes.
    Should they be?
    No.

  • Wow.  That is crazy. 

  • Now and then. But I really think the unofficial religion of the West is atheism. Religion is more on the decline than anything and perhaps that’s the reason people respond to things like this with sudden desperation.
    -David

  • Wait a minute, Florida? 40 lashes? Damn you got me.
    -David

  • okay first off, is it a stuffed animal that kids play with or the kind that was once alive and then died and they stuffed it!?

    second thing, how is naming a stuffed animal Jesus an attempt to turn students away from god?

    And lastly, …. I do stuff like that all the time. I just think it’s kind of funny. I wouldn’t do it around people that would take offense to it, but most people I know wouldn’t anyway.
    Watch someone comment and be like, “that is NOT funny!!! how dare you!”

  • well considering none of this stuff is in this country, then no

  • Wow, Dan, I can’t believe how many people fell for this…

  • it says its in Britain…

  • and its not Christian intolerance its Muslim intolerance…

  • Based on Dan’s sarcasm, it seems he is trying to say that extreme Islam is more real than extreme Christianity. Maybe I haven’t put much thought into it, but there are more nations governed by the notions of extremist Muslims than by extremist Christians.  As far as I know, the most extreme Christian governing body in the world is Texas.  They at least give you a couple years to appeal a death penalty sentence.

    Then again, I think the media uses stories about the extreme ways Sudan and Iran punish people to feed the U.S. xenophobia against Islam in general. 

  • Wow, some of your readers aren’t that bright.

  • ^^no kidding

  • Wait… Jesus? This is the “Muhammad” bear story – is it not?

  • It’s official your Xanga doesn’t like me. It won’t let me reply to this. Well the gist of it is I see what you’re trying to there. Cute. :) But in ways kind of scary…

  • Don’t have time to read the article as I am running to teach a class.  I really hope this is you being sarcastic.

  • this was in Sudan Dan…

    can we Sue Dan?  :X  ok that wasn’t that funny

  • I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make by switching around the religious figures/countries. 

  • Very clever Dan. But widen your focus. Try “religious nuts taking over the world.”

  • Yes.  And then it gives all of us who have beliefs in an almighty a bad name. 

  • Good thing I read the true story a few days ago.  You know Dan, many of your posters don’t follow the link so they don’t know you are twisting the story JUST A LITTLE!  

    Follow the LINK people, Dan is pulling your legs, both of them or all four of them as the case may be. 

  • I am glad I read the article before I came to your site, Dan.

  • I answered the question you know.

    I know the article is different.

  • Yeah, sometimes.

    Luckily, we have a nice SECULAR justice system that, when working correctly, keeps things like what’s happening to that poor teacher from happening here.

    Not that it always works correctly. But it’s a step.

  • …And of course, there are those who completely miss the point you’re trying to make.

    I don’t think it matters, especially seeing as how the cuddly teddy bear is no threat to Mohammad, as well as that there are many “Mohommads” in the world. AND it was in good faith; no harm intended.

  • Religious nuts?  Taking over this country?  O RLY?

  • catch the error, miss the point.. maybe im wrong, but it seems a lot of people took the bait here, even the ones who knew the true story. maybe im off, but the first thing that came to mind here was not a comparison of how things happen in different countries with different religions but rather how people react to it. ie the same people who come to the defense of islam when these stories come out, decrying them as rare, raise all hell and cry for the abolition of christianity when we here of a teacher praying in school.

  • It honestly scares me.

  • No more than the atheist political-correctness freaks.  My high school just had their yearly theatre production, Ten Little Indians, cancelled because it wasn’t politically correct. no one can say anything anymore without having tolerance crap shoved down their throats.  Face it–we’re all EQUAL–no one deserved to be persecuted, and no one deserves to have their art taken from them. 

  • Well done with the whole perspective thing.

  • Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like maybe this is a what if that had taken place in America and things were changed a bit. I would say if it had happened the way you portrayed it with the name changed to Jesus and by a muslim woman here, she would have been praised…at least by liberals. As a Christian, I would not have liked it, but I would not have wanted her to get 40 lashes either. There is what freedom of religion was placed into law for. A government can’t make a certain religion the religion EVERYONE has to have and go by or die. When it comes to religion, forcing someone to a certain religion does nothing. If our government suddenly said “Everyone has to believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God to be able to get to heaven or die” , do you think everyone would go to heaven? I believe myself that believing in Jesus taking the punishment for my sin and trusting Him to forgive me is the only way to heaven, but you can’t FORCE that on anyone. That’s what muslims try to do with their religion. It comes down to a relationship, which is what Christianity is, not some RELIGION. I read where someone said religion is manmade. This so true. Christianity is Godmade. This is His way. Man I didn’t mean to go off on a tangent  But I did, so whatever!

  • My goodness…I think the religious nuts are and have been everywhere–Christian nuts or otherwise–they are simply getting more attention these days.

  • btw…wouldn’t it be funnier if suddenly this were a Hindu nut…(We should learn from those more passive religions…)

  • Well said, bittersunday:)

  • WWWTTTTFFFFF
    maybe she shoulda gotten a talking-to or something at the worst…

  • ugh. yes the christian psychos are taking over >_>
    its sad. “all in the name of our lord and savior.”
    >_>  let me know when this country is run by common sense instead of jesus groupies >_>

  • I think you have the wrong link mixed up with your post.

  • I need to look no further than the jingling change of my pocket: “In God we trust.” In God we all regardless of our personal creed.The Plege of Allegiance is also fairly blatant.

  • You know, sometimes I think you have completely taken leave of your senses.

  • Nice one Dan! You made your point with surgical precision.

  • each and every day my dear.

  • nice satire, dan.  too bad it was lost on many of your readers…

  • Haha. Silly infidels.

  • oh dan, my views are made SO clear in my recent entry.

  • Christianity is the Great Satan – just ask the Muslims.

  • read the link people. 

  • why should others be indifferent to christianity…. we have been indifferent to different religions .so we really have no room to talk

  • You need to read the link. The woman is a teacher in Sudan and the bear’s name was Muhammed.

  • Lol. People are so friggin stupid.

  • What’s the big deal.  Lots of people are named Jesus.

  • Very nice Dan, bravo!

  • I thought she was the one who, over in Sudan [or over in that area], named a stuffed bear Muhammed?

  • Are you going to edit or repost with the correct information on this subject or is that part of the point you are making…cause the people who need to get it won’t if you don’t point it out to them…

  • I see what you did.  I thought the same thing when I saw this story on the evening news.  How would we respond if it were another religion…  someone else’s prophet?  I think maybe the teacher should have given a second thought to what she named the toy… but imprisonment?  Lashes?  C’mon!  She named the toy after a boy in the class… wasn’t the brightest idea, but it surely doesn’t deserve all this attention!

  • This is in the U.S.?  40 lashes?  I think not.

    It’s wrong on all sides.  It’s stupid and unnecessary to attack a religion in a school, regardless of personal beliefs.  Religion has no place in school unless it’s a Theology, Philosophy, or World Religions class… or maybe a Catholic school.

    Likewise, religion has no place in the law.  It is private and personal, and there should be no sentence for addressing it in school.  It’s stupid, insulting, and unneccesary but the law shouldn’t base its sentences on religious issues.

  • Religious fringe groups are trying to take over many countries…..including ours.  But I think the atheists are winning in the United States.

  • How about we just do away with religion entirely?

  • I think religious nuts would very much like to control this country.  But you make a good point.  We have more religious freedom than Sudan!  I’m free to blaspheme as much as I like, which is a lot.  I try not to influence kids though, or stupid people, which is more than I can say for religious nuts…  I don’t see why the bear couldn’t have been named God Almighty if the kids chose the name. 

    In answer to your most recent question, I think a good sound thrashing might not be a bad idea.  Honestly, I’d prefer to endure 30 days in jail rather than 40 lashes, assuming those lashes were bad-ass nasty lashes like the dude in the link got.  A lot of people in American could use a good ass-whooping, and I’m not sure if prison is all that much of a deterrent anymore.

  • And that’s why I thank God we don’t live in a theocracy (yes God can be thanked in praise of not having a form of government based around Him). B/c then that could very well happen here. 

  • What makes this even more absurd is that Muhammad is a very common arabic name. 

  • I cant believe shes been charged for asking children to name a teddy.

    Dont we have bigger issues?

  • The part that makes me laugh is when they said  “It is part of the campaign of the so-called war against terrorism and the intense media campaign against Islam.”   I doubt this lady had any idea that was disrepectful. Kids here do that same project…The toy goes evrywhere, does lots of things with the child and gets treated like their friend. This is getting blown WAY out of proportion…

  • wow that still exists today?

    im stunned…

  • christian nutcases, yes. i can’t watch those christian tv stations for too long. freaks me out. its funny how people who believe the same thing can be so dramaticly different. & that teacher was stupid. why do they allow those kinds of people to teach students? rediculous!

  • Religious nuts are everywhere – BEWARE.

  • are you trying to be absurd? just wait till sharia gets imposed in the US and you tell me if Christians were the intolerant ones…

  • omg.   I think Jesus didn’t like his 39 lashes.   How Christian!   Maybe Sudan is trying to be “fair”……or stand up for Jesus?   Some of the justice systems in africa are really interesting mixtures of tribal, etc.  oh well.

  • but you know, Jesus is a prophet in Islam.  That would be sacrilege to ISLAM….or did the artlce say that?  I was in a hurry.

  • reading your post, I thought the 40 lashes thing was an old school law left on the books from the pilgram days or something that just hadn’t been sticken like somewhere I heard there was a law that you can’t eat icecream on Sunday.  Although I did notice the background of the pic (basically cuz I luv pics) I did not Q the validity of your motives nor did I bother reading the link because I don’t beleive anything I read on most websites.  Happening here- she’s got nerve Happening there- she’s got a death wish… Is she trying to provoke war?… Armegetton? … Martordum? lol oh and btw i got deffensive to the California comment for a second til it dawned on me that ‘oh yeah, steriotypically speaking I am bouth fruity and nutty’ 

  • I don’t know where you got that it was a teacher in Fl. who supposedly brought in Jesus name in vain. Your link was about the English teacher in the Sudan that let her class name a stuffed teddy bear to be named Mohammad. Someone either didn’t do their home work or was checking to see who goes to the posted link. To answer your question……..It depends on who you are calling religious nuts, Christians or Islamists/Muslims. No Christians aren’t trying to take this country over, we were founded by Christians. The Muslims are and want to change our country into a Muslim nation to be ruled by Shri’a law. They are being catered to by the liberals on the left.

    Have a blessed weekend and God keep you safe, healthy & happy.  HUGS   

  • this and almost every other country are controlled by religious nuts.
    also, i don’t see how naming a stuffed animal muhammad is offensive.

  • way to completely make a story up dan… geez.

  • lol, nobody knows this is from that thing where the lady named the bear ‘Mohammud’.

  • YES!!! look at mitt dumbass romney

  • And she deserved it anyway

  • Religion is taking over the world!

    Hail athiests!

    haha.

  • Ha ha Dan. I think it is funny that you try to mislead us to test us. And even though you have the details wrong and this has nothing to do with the US, I would have to say yes, fundi nuts and general religious over excitement has grown too strong. I was attacked at school today for being an apathetic deist…

  • There is something going on here for aol, called censorship.  I have attempted to submit my comment twice, so far, and have gotten the aol glich.  I believe Mary, daughter to Vice President Cheney is behind this, here at aol.  Stop it, Mary.  Let me tell everyone the way it is. This is being submitted, and I will try again, with my comment to submit, here next.

  • Jesus is involved with the turning of sinners ot repentence, not to have the world order established by the murder of millions and millions of people through attacking other countries in a relious war. The Jehovah’s Witneses, majorly established in residence in Washington D.C.,  have the mistaken premise that Jesus will be king by this method.  NO.  Jesus is establishing peace, love and brotherhood, along with His teaching of the Good News for Modern Man, that we may live and not die, as more important to us than focusing on political ideas.   

  • that’s just stupid

  • it didn’t even happen in this country!

  • Get your facts right….are you anti-Christian?  Looks like you’re just hating on Christians….the article says nothing about this being in Florida…and it says nothing about the woman calling the stuff teddy “Jesus.”  She was calling it “Muhammad.”  And ignorant Christian haters just pick it up and start hating and writing hate messages on your page because they didn’t read the article….People hate us for nothing.  I’m unsuscribing cuz this blog is a waste of my time.  No good conversations, and not even good facts to begin with in the first place….Not like it matters to anyone anyways…..take care, do something worthwhile with your life.

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