January 30, 2008
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Large Breasts Discrimination
British women have won an important battle in the fight for large breasts equality.
The second largest food retailer that is owned by Wal-Mart, will “no longer charge women more for bigger bras in its George fashion range.”
Now all bras will be the same price whether the bra is an A cup or a F Cup. Here is the link: Link (Many of you know that I have fought for large breasts equality for 36 years).
Do you think a woman should have to pay more money for a bra just because she has larger breasts?
Comments (126)
Yes- it’s never more than a buck or two, and it’s simply more difficult and requires more raw material to make.
But it’s nice that this company is taking the initiative to make them all equal. It kind of irks me to pay more when I wouldn’t have to in another brand.
Well larger bras do require more material don’t they?
More material. More labor. They take up more space. Logically yes.
Yup.
Hell yeah! They got the goods, they got to pay the price.
This is the illusion of feminism.
In the end, no matter how much progress is made, the truth is women control only one thing.
Who to sleep with. Who do you submit to?
Then of course, we are back to square one.
Yeah, get your bras for larger breasts at the same price, material or not. This is a victory.
The role of the male will always be penetrator.
Think about that.
no. i hate it! ><
Well, bigger bras DO need more cloth and wiring and other materials, so of course the bras should be of a higher price. It makes sense.
@dragonflyshine - not all women who have “the goods” actually WANT the goods. i’d give dang near ANYTHING to have small breasts. ><
No.
I didn’t know that. Haha. I’m not so big myself so I wouldn’t really know.
Haha. I don’t care really. Bras are just bras.
Larger sizes = more fabric.
Basic sewing 101. It’s not “discrimination”. Stop whining and lose weight if it’s worth the extra buck.
I do not think it will hurt them to do that ,they make up for it in thongs,which are the same price and sometimes even more expensive than regular underwear but take less fabric to make .
This all depends, I shop at Victoria’s Secret..I usually spend about 50 dollars for a bra. So, I wear a D–and if that meant I needed to spend another 20, then I would say..NO. If it meant spending an extra 5, then whatever, I am already spending 50, what is 5 more?
well, yeah. it’s not discrimination, it’s just common sense: larger bra = more material required = more costly to make.
Ben- um, I don’t know what you’ve been smoking, but you’re wrong on all counts. Even sexually, women can penetrate men with the right strap-ons (or there is homosexuality). Also, there’s cunnilingus, which is definitely not male-penetrative.
Porcupinesol- breast reduction?
NightCometh- losing weight will not help women with a small band size and large cup size. If you’re a 34DD, you can probably lose 20-30 pounds and still be within a healthy weight… and you MIGHT go to a 32D/DD. Or, like me, you might keep the same cup and band size even when you lose weight.
No. The biggest cost in making any manufactured consumer good is labor, not material, and I don’t think that it’s going to take a great deal more labor to make a bra any bigger. Really, I would expect the cost of making a bra a few sizes bigger would be very small.
YES!
But Dan, why we have to talk about thing like this all the time? It does get old.
I guess economically it makes sense to charge more. And it probably just means that people who buy A cup bras in that line are being overcharged to compensate for the money lost on the F cup ones anyway…
@la_faerie_joyeuse - yes, girl, i need it.
and amen to replying on the “lose weight if you want smaller boobs” comment. jeesh!
no
She’s not paying more JUST BECAUSE she has bigger breasts; it’s not a discrimination type of deal. She’s paying more because of the EXTRA MATERIAL needed to make that D or DD cup. Thus, its all relative, yes, but its simply due to the extra material. Much like what everyone has already stated. : )
Do we ask people to pay more money for a size 10 jeans vs. a size 6? Or a t-shirt that is a size large vs. a size small? No, that’s absurd.
Same money for same product, of all sizes. It’s only fair.
I don’t think this is really a discrimination issue, but I wonder why people don’t usually pay more for an XL shirt than for a small one (of the same style and brand, of course). I wonder why they would price bras differently.
Yes, I think that’s only fair.
@la_faerie_joyeuse -
Nope. I went from a 36 DD to a 36 C by losing 30 lbs. Boo yah.
And another thought…
They will now all probably pay the HIGHER price instead of the A cup price. Nice going, Brits.
@porcupinesol - *I MYSELF* lost weight and got smaller boobs as a result. If it’s the truth, can it be discrimination?
No. Nothing else works that way. Children’s clothes are not any cheaper even though they use far less material. The costs involved are mostly labor and that shouldn’t be any different from one size to the next. And did you really mean to say FOOD retailer?
@nathanswife05 -
ASDA is where those clothes are sold…and they are a food retailer. They sell food and clothes just like Walmart.
It makes sense. But why don’t we do that for all clothes?
It would be incentive for people to weigh less
Why not just raise the price on all of them? Just raise the price of the A cup to whatever the Z cup is priced at.
@NightCometh - while it’s great that you’re happy about losing weight,
you have to realize that everyone has different bodies. I lost a
little over 20 pounds and my bra size changed from a full 34/36F to a
32/34F. I really couldn’t healthfully lose more than 10 lbs after
that, as my waist was already 24/25″. I am doomed to a large cup size,
unless I get a reduction.
So like I said, there are some people whose breasts change a lot (2+
cup sizes), and there are some people whose breasts don’t even change a
full cup size when losing 30+ pounds.
Well, I’ll Boycott then. I’m wear a 38″ inseam pants and size 16 shoes and they charge ME lots more. So I want a break too. ummmmm, see my point, give certain folks a break and EVERYBODY wants a break. I say sorry, pay the price…or wait for sales like I do
OK, for all you peeps saying they should pay more because they cost more/are harder to make, I worked at Victoria’s Secret, so here’s a fun fact for you:
Unless the item is made of inherently valuable products (like the million dollar bra that’s completely covered in diamonds), no bra costs more than 50 cents to make.
No, seriously. Most undewear you buy costs 3 to 10 cents. Bras are a little bit more, but not much.
So if they’re going to charge 3 more cents to make up for the production cost, fine. But there’s no reason for larger bras to cost any more than smaller ones. Almost 100% of what you pay is pure profit for the company.
I don’t know, actually. On one hand I want to say… sure, more fabric/material = more money. But on the other hand, everything is soooo marked up from actual cost anyway… it probably doesn’t really matter.
@elvesdoitbetter - Hummmm, next time I go to Victoria’s Secret with my wife, can I tell them I want one of those 50 cent bra’s for my wife.
yes, it uses more cloth for larger breasts. Now that they are charging the same, it means that MY bras are going to go up in price. This stinks!
what about all of the small tits out there????? what remorse do we get?!??
i don’t think it’s a discrimination issue – it’s a fabric issue…aren’t many of the plus sizes or maternity clothing items more money? I think if they want to charge more, they can – if there is a reason for it (like more fabric). However, wouldn’t it be easier to just make it all the same price? In the case of bras, is it really THAT much more material? We aren’t talking a size 4 dress versus a size 28 dress here.
Sure, we use a bit more fabric, but you don’t spend more to buy size XL clothes over size S clothes, so why should bras be any different? Especially not the $20-$30 more expensive that you have to spend if you’re going to get any support at all. It’s really NOT fair. Just because we’re naturally blessed doesn’t mean we’re inherently wealthy! Bra prices for well-endowed women are just insane!
Well, more material=more money. They probably raised the price of the smaller bras instead of lowering the price of the bigger ones. Clever move. They get more money out of the deal and all the feminists flock there to buy their bras because it’s “non-discriminatory”.
Yes.
Larger breasts = larger bras = more material required = higher total material cost = higher price.
As I said before, it’s not rocket science, people.
For those who are complaining about how it’s not fair…
SO IS LIFE. GET USED TO IT.
NO! and I agree 100% with porcupinesol. some of us really do wish we had smaller breasts, but because of genetics, we weren’t born like that! As you go past an F, I agree that one should pay more, though I am damning myself as I say that, but its still blown way out of proportion. Also, they should make SEXY lingerie for big busted women..and none of the ugly floral crap for 70 year olds. its not fair when I am a normal size around (36) and my boobs are bigger than any of my friends…(waaay bigger than DD)…NOT FAIR!!
They charge Too Much Already….. It’s the girls with itty bitty titties that are Really Getting Cheated!!!!
and yes agreeing with @la_faerie_joyeuse, I lost 20 pounds and went up cupsizes to go from a 38DD to a 36H. yeah, losing weight doesn’t always mean that you lose boobs. its in genetics like i said before. Don’t be so quick to judge. They are the LAST place I lose weight.
No, I don’t.
Sure…the XX-large shirts and all cost more for men and women, so I guess bra’s should too.
But then again, we don’t pay more for bigger shoes sizes, or hats.
Wow, I just stumbled onto something.
L.
I think it’s like shoes or shirts… different sizes; same price (except adult/kids size differences)
I think they should make more better, smaller bras available.
@madame_butterfly137 - “hell yes!” on the sexy lingerie for bigger busted women! do you know how hard it is to find a bra in my size that isn’t “off white” let alone comes with matching panties?!! wait, i’m sure that you do know!
@la_faerie_joyeuse - let’s get reductions together.
@elvesdoitbetter - you’re right. all this “more material, higher price” crap is just that — crap. they’re all being mass produced by machines in a run-down factory somewhere, with material that costs 14cents a yard.
@seedsower - i always wondered about that…
It’s up to the seller. I’d probably charge more since it requires more material.
Yes. Because it’s more material.
Well, the larger bra sizes tend to have more material and need better support than smaller sizes of even the same style.
It does seem like a bit of a shaft to me when you go look at bras and the bigger sizes cost a bit more, but I don’t really see it as discrimination…
does it matter? big breasts, small breasts… the bras are ridiculously overpriced. that’s why they’re willing to not charge extra for larger bras… b/c the profit is so huge.
I wear a size 46F bra. If i buy a CHEAP bra, it costs me over twenty dollars, I get no support and this causes severe backaches. If I buy a GOOD bra it costs me over 40 dollars and it is usually unattractive and industrialized. It isn’t fair that women like me get ugly bras at quadruple the price other women pay. I have seen sexy and cute little b and c cup bras for less than $10.00 at retail stores and it infuriates me. I didn’t ask for these knockers! I’m glad someone is finally being fair about it.
Requires more material to make.
That being said it requires a higher cost to produce a larger bra.
Do people with size 12 feet pay more for their shoes?
I did purchasing for a well known bra company for 6 years back when. It really doesn’t cost more in material and/or labor to produce larger sizes but it sure helps the companies make you think that it does.
Fabric is bought in millions of yards and bras are made in countries that pay way below minimum wage than the USA. Our two biggest manufacturing sites were in Mexico and Manila, Philippines.
The fabric itself was bought in Hong Kong for cents per yard.
It makes sense to charge more, but I really don’t care much. Because my chest isn’t unreasonably big. :] So I win.
no, i don’t think they should have to. some people really can’t help it. so it’s not like they could “lose weight” to get a smaller size. plus, i think taxes on hygiene products should also be removed…. since a lot of the big stinky people are like, “eh… i wanna spend money on muh candy bar…. eff the price of this box of soap… i need the money from the taxes to buy candy…” that way, there would be no excuse for stinky fat people.
no, it’s not like she CHOSE to have that big of breasts. it’s geneticand she can’t pick.
I understand more money for more material in a bra, but can someone explain why a tiny thong costs more than big granny panties?
no i dont think so.. although i’ll never need to pay more. LOL
Um – no… She should have to pay more for a larger bra because more material is used to make it. (duh!)
Same thing with XL shirts – they usually cost more than S, M, and L size.
This isn’t discrimination!
For those of you talking about size being the reason for the added cost: a lot of the cost comes from mass production. The common sizes are produced in larger production runs and reduces the set up costs. Since there are much less double D ladies, there are much less double D bras made, hence more set up changes, and more cost.
There is also the stronger elastic and fabric that it takes to hold up those “massive ta-ta’s”.
If it takes more material to make a bigger bra, then why shouldn’t it cost more? Not trying to be rude to anyone, but it does make sense.
Gosh, I didn’t realize Walmart sold F’s… I’ll have to check it out!
Everything for a larger person in general costs more money. My “beef” is trying to find one that actually fits, feels good, and looks good.
I’m so glad you have taken up this fight all in the name of “equality.” BIG of you, Dan!
@porcupinesol - you’ll be happy to know i am accepting breast fat donation! I wouldn’t mind making my iblt bigger… if only it were that easy
Well I haven’t ever paid more for larger clothes, so it’s not fair to pay more for bras.
No. I can’t control the fact that I have big boobs.
It makes more sense to charge more, but I still hate it.
She should get a refund! Boobs….gotta luv ‘em!
@NightCometh - Ummm… my daughter has the same size breasts no matter what her weight, and believe me, she’s not happy about that. Believe me her breast size is not a matter of fat. But I’m sure she”ll be happy to know that their are people who think that if she would just diet and become aneroxic the big breast issue would go away for her, maybe she could look like Nicole Ritchie then — and guys would stop talking to her chest and maybe look her in her beautiful eyes once in awhile….
Do we charge more for larger clothes or larger shoes?
Bras are already way too expensive. $50 for a good one. I think they make enough profit without upping the cost of larger ones.
I don’t see the big deal – more material, more labor, like many have said – it’s only logical.
wahhhh, discrimination!! enough already.
I am against it, because they will just raise the price of the small bras to make it coincide with the large bras. Then, small-chested people such as myself will end up having to pay more.
@enigmatic_intent -
While you don’t pay more for XL, you do pay more for XXL or XXXL.
And I like you icon.
I pay more for pants because I have longer legs. Sometimes it’s annoying, but it’s also because a 36″ inseam requires more fabric. They’re also less common, so less demanded.
well as a b cup i’ve never really experienced a problem. nor do i shop at walmart stores so i’ve never had this specific problem. the logical question would be is this an increase in price across the board in all larger products in their line. if all larger products carry a higher price because of being more output in general then i see no problem. if this higher fee was somehow only applied to bras that would seem odd. also it should probably be comparable in the mens department with their house line having variable rates depending on the number of x’s in front of l.
yeah, it’s like shirts, if u need more than a 1x @ most places, it’s a bit more. They use more material. But they don’t do that with jeans??? hmmm….maybe not. It’s up for discussion.
This is actually a quasi-serious issue. It is quite hard, and usually really expensive, for my wife to find bras that fit her well. She usually has to go to custom bra shops.
I gladly suffer through this.
Does this mean my 2X shirt and my “Big and Tall (big for me.. lol)” pants will be less now – cost just the same amount as other clothes? I guess some could argue that big breast are given to women (genetic) – but dont some have big breasts because they are big (choice)?
This is too odd to continue.. ha ha
Daniel (doubledb)
WTF??!?!!! This is ridiculous! More material = more work = more money. It’s as simple as that. There’s no such thing as “large breasts equality”! And what about the women who have enlargements? Should they not have to pay more? They CHOSE their state. STUPID QUESTION.
@azcason -
Talk about a strawman!
Check what I said…I said *nothing* about anorexia, or Nicole Richie. Not everyone has the same body, that is a given. But there are ways to lose weight and reduce breast size. Breasts are made up of fatty tissue and mammary glands. I am not calling your daughter fat. I lost weight and went from a 36 DD to a 36 C. Don’t attack things I did not say.
A company should be able to charge whatever they want for any product. Stupid Collectivists.
it’s not about discrimination, it’s just about maximizing profits… i think it would be more fair to do pricing of everything on a sliding scale for material used, but obviously that’s not practical. so, just like regular clothing, bras should be one price for the “average” range and a little bit higher for the slightly larger range. if you want to be really nit-picky (which this is), it’s also discrimination against women who have small boobs… just making them pay more for fabric they’re not using. heck, i have small boobs… i want a discount on my bras!
@nicumom -
Supply and demand.
Although it is fair to have one product all one price, I have always thought bigger bra’s, shirts and many other things cost more material. I have seen in magazines and sometimes stores XS, S, M, L and XL are usually regular prices but when it comes to XXL, XXXL, XXXXL and XXXXXL which I have seen before, cost more money because it needs more material to make, also more time to make it and everyone knows that time is money.
I pay more for pants than shorts.
I think it`s fine.
Also I didn’t know TheTheologiansCafe was a girl.
I’ve always assumed it was a guy because of the picture.
Also if super extra large clothing is more expencive, should they have cheaper prices when it comes to smaller clothes? I’ve seen S, XS, XXS and rarely XXXXS.
yes. It’s very simple. Larger boobs = more fabric. Fabric costs money. Therefore, bigger boobs = more money.
Basic economic cost theory.
The bra uses more material. More material means more money. Fork it over ladies. Seriously, you get all the attention from men and the social advantages that brings. Just pay the freaking money and shut up. Come back when it’s a real problem.
Yes- That’s the way it is for some clothes– More fabric = more money. Makes perfect sense to me-
ehh I dunno…I mean it is more fabric..but then again they use more fabric for a C cup than an A so if that was their argument then they should all be different prices…I say YAY to the Brits!
@Completely_Compelled -
Actually, people do have to pay more for larger sized jeans and shirts. ..
and it is more fabric so yeah.. more money..
Of course we should. It takes more material to make the bra. I’d rather the companies continue to give quality products than to worry about price. You know they will make up for the difference some how.
Besides, what are women who wear a size 36F complaining about? At least you can go in a store and find 36F. Try finding a 32 or 30F cup. HA. I can’t get a bra for less than $30.
@NightCometh - Ummm… my daughter has the same size breasts no matter what her weight, and believe me, she’s not happy about that. Believe me her breast size is not a matter of fat. But I’m sure she”ll be happy to know that their are people who think that if she would just diet and become aneroxic the big breast issue would go away for her, maybe she could look like Nicole Ritchie then — and guys would stop talking to her chest and maybe look her in her beautiful eyes once in awhile….
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Exactly. Some people just have bigger breast due to genetics. My breast have the same cup size whether I way 98 pounds or 170 pounds.
Ugh. All these silly arguments. Besides, everyone that is well endowed knows that you can’t get a decent bra at WalMart no matter how much you pay for it. #1 It’s not discrimination- they do it for really big shoes and really long pants…#2 different women lose weight in different areas and unless it disables you in some way, insurance won’t pay for a reduction, so unless you fork out the bucks, you have to live with it…#3 social advantages???? That’s only if you are well endowed, thin, and drop dead gorgeous. Big boobs don’t get you anywhere if you are plain Jane.
That’s descrimination against the larger busted! Should people who don’t have any control over their breast size be punished? It’s enough to be ridiculed, but then to charge more? Unless you had them enhanced its NOT A CHOICE, its genetics.
Besides, all the really cute bras with the frilly lace & stuff are made for the smaller bust. Just look in your local lingerie shop, I was there last week, and the “Full Figure” section has very few beautiful bras.
I don’t mind paying the extra money as long as I get a good fitting one
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yes. you also have to pay more for extra large clothes. why? MORE MATERIAL
does this mean walmart will no longer charge $2 more for 3x shirts?
Initially I wanted to say Yes because of the whole material thing, but I think it might be a little harder to calculate than cup size. What about someone who is a 34D compared to a person who is 38B? There would have to be some pricing formula that included both a band size and cup factor. However things end up being priced, they can’t use the word discrimination. If i had a kid, I wouldn’t yell discrimination because food on the kid’s menu was cheaper than the food on the regular menu. The kids food is cheaper because it comes in smaller portions.
@squeakysoul - i get no attention from men because of my big boobs. (nor do i want any.) …wait, social advantages?! are you SERIOUS?!!? …SOMEONE’S a lucky A-cup!
@steph843 - let’s trade breast tissue.
I don’t think you should have to pay more, but I would think it would cost mroe to make a bra that’s an F rather than an A, so maybe that’s why it costs more.
Bigger bra’s require more material than smaller bra’s. Therefore there should be a commensurate increase in price. You buy a bigger car, it costs more than a small car. Its not discrimination, its simple economics.
i think a women should pay more for a bra if it costs mroe to make. like using more materials because it’s bigger?
Well reductions aren’t free so maybe this will allow those who want one to squirrel away some money. I would imagine it would suck to have really big ones. I doubt very much that it requires all that much effort to make the larger sizes anyway.
@dragonflyshine - wow, they *got* the goods, as if we somehow got to pick whether we were and A or an F? Bull**** where the hell is my form I would like to resubmit it please…
@NightCometh - wow, lose weight if its worth the extra buck…
I have never been smaller than a 36 DD and I was 130 lbs at the time (5’6″ tall), After my kids were born and breast fed I sky rocketed to a 36 F so you wanna tell me how I could lose weight aside from having it surgically removed???
I call bull**** on this one…
That’s wrong…but a larger bra does require more material. You pay for more if you have more. That’s sad it has to be that way though, but it just is
No, it’s not fair.
honestly? i think bras should be cheaper. they’re too damn expensive. i’m low income, and i can’t afford them…so what do i do? i wear camis. i wish i could afford a fitting bra, not one from goodwill tho…thats nasty
I dont think i should have to pay more….
They should pay less.
A lot of clothes cost more in XL or XXL sizes, because they take more material to make. Not a whole lot more, but a few dollars. On the other hand, there are bathing suits, that take very little material, but cost way too much. C’est la vie.
No, it is bull crap, and it isn’t that much more material.
Well, fat and/or tall people sometimes have to pay more for XL-3XL sizes.
i’m fat! i have big breasts! but i believe that it’s only economically logical that the more materials used to make a product, the higher the costs! the people who have been fighting for this are whacked! however you compare it, large breasts are not equal to small breasts! note the adjective of degree! “large > small”
it’s not feminism to have equal bra prices! it’s abusing the power of the image behind feminism! it’s not equality either… i think it’s stupid! just pay for the bras already!
but i understand the shirt and pants size difference sans price difference. so then it makes me wonder…
No. Bras for large breasts may seem like they require more material and work, but since they do not require padding for the cups (different material and stitching) nor do they require metal underwires to hold up what isn’t there. they should not be paying more!
Yes, they should pay more. This is not discrimination against large breast. It’s simply because the bigger the bra the more material it needs that require more money. Let say you want a super size hamburger. Should it be the same price as the regular hamburger? No, because it’s bigger and have more stuff. In Hong Kong, different size cost different including shirts, pants, and bras.
No I don’t think they should have to pay more money. It’s not like it’s the woman’s fault in most cases.