February 20, 2008
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Barack Obama Vs. John McCain Part 2
On a more serious note, Barack Obama just won another victory in Wisconsin tonight. Although I would never count Hillary out, her chances of winning the nomination of her party are slowly drifting away.
So it is looking more and more like Barack Obama against John McCain.
Who do you think would make a better president, Obama or McCain?
Comments (135)
BUT…BUT…MCCAIN WAS SO SEXY!
McCain.
McCain
Whats wrong with Hilary? Girl power man!
McCain.
I can’t say.
McCain.
Obama is WAY too liberal and to the left. He is about as moderate as Ted Kennedy is black.
However, I will vote for Obama for a liberal Supreme Court.
mccain
Our country will go to hell if either one is elected.
Ron Paul for President! hehe
i dunno.. i’m one of those assholes who don’t vote. it’s not that i don’t care… or that i’m lazy… it’s cause i never watch anything on politics, and i feel it wouldn’t be fair of me to vote for someone when i know nothing about them… nor understand anything about them….
@vangelicmonk - You’ve managed to say the same stupid thing three different ways. For this, you deserve a hat.
@TheVajana - I hear that a lot. Which makes sense to a certian point. Well you have until November to read up on both candidates, register (if you are not so already), and find your polling place. I encourage you to vote. Even if it happens to be for Obama.
Obama
@huginn - Aww. How sweet. How did you know I was a Conehead fan. “Where from France!”
I’d say Obama. McCain just creeps me out. His cheekbone and jawbone is just INHUMAN!
Neither, because both would continue to bolster the increased power and idol worship of the bloated, unconstitutional modern office.
@vangelicmonk - i just really really don’t understand politics. it’s not that i’m “special”… i’m proud enough to say that i’m smarter than the average being…. i just don’t understand them….
@TheVajana - In my personal opinion, I’d rather someone who had no involvement not vote than have them vote without any knowledge. If it makes you feel any better.
As far as the original question, it’s tough. I don’t like either of them. I’ll probably vote for McCain though.
Duck, you do know that he had cancer in his left jaw area right?
We’ll never know…
@rebe1186 - Yeah, and it still creeps me out.
@TheVajana - Politics are an old person’s way of keeping themselves entertained by pushing their beliefs onto other, to sum it up. Also, it gives those interested in them a feeling of having an influence on what happens, when in reality all candidates end up doing the same thing when elected, anyway.
Erm, I guess Obama.
@vangelicmonk - Los Angeles. And yourself?
@DrugInducedDuck - Imagine if Abraham Lincoln lost the 1860 election. Or if FDR was never elected into office. What if Thomas Jefferson’s campaign died in its infancy?
Not all Presidental candidates were created equal.
Honestly, if we manage an Obama/McCain election… then I think no matter who wins, we’re gonna be okay. I like Obama more, but McCain strikes me as an alright guy.
Obama by a long shot. Either way though, torture would be banned.
@huginn - your comments made me chuckle in a good way lol especially your first about that person saying the same thing thrice ways……
McCain, without a doubt!
Mccain the only thing Obama knows how to say is change hes like a damn parrot….
Honestly, I don’t know yet. No clear decision made… I will make a decision by October.
I like Obama’s economic policies better, but if I like McCain’s social policies better. I don’t really think a Republican has a chance of winning this election, so I’m trying to appreciate Obama as the lesser of two evils. (The greater of two evils being Clinton)
represent OBAMA-
Our american public is tired of politics as usual. Let’s make things different.
McCain wouldn’t be a horrible president…
I think the issue here is a change of parties. The republicans have had rule over this government for too long. It’s time the pendulum swings back.
obama’s long clammy fingers creep me out. is that a good reason not to vote for him. it works for me.
hillary.
Obama! =D
@DrugInducedDuck - i HAVE noticed that… which is why i don’t understand why they even have elections… well, why they have so many at each others’ throats, i should say…
@Jolteus33 - i’m glad someone seems to understand how i feel… lol
i simply don’t want to be the one vote who effed it up for everyone else.
Obama.
To be honest, I like them both.
I disagree with McCain on way more things, but that’s cause I’m a sissy left-wing liberal, or whatever. (Can I be a liberal and be pissed off that I can’t get a CCW permit?) Anyway…
Obama would be better overall because he’s had a constant message of reaching across the aisle, whereas the rest of democrats took the easy road and just tried to ride the Bush-hate. This tells me that Obama means it when he says he’s about changing the way politics are done, because he was even saying “Let’s stop demonizing Republicans” when it was popular to demonize them. (It probably still is…)
I used to love McCain a lot more when he was the Straight Talk Express. He was a conservative, and so we still disagreed on policy matters, but I always felt like he had good, sincere reasons for what he believed. Reasons that made me question my own political bent fairly often. I particularly liked that he would not pander to the extremes of the party, and chastised the liberals (rightly) for pandering to our own extremes.
But that was old McCain. New McCain is trying to rally a fractured Republican party behind him, which includes picking up Huckabee’s evangelical vote. So now he’s coming out with all sorts of bizarre pandering on wedge issues like abortion or gay marriage. I don’t want another Colin Powell in office. I don’t want a guy who has my respect but then breaks under the immediate pressures of winning an election or taking orders from your boss to justify a war. The now-red McCain needs to return to the more purple Straight Talk Express that he once was, and join Obama in bringing the fractured COUNTRY back together, instead of just the fractured party. If he did that, then I wouldn’t care who got in office. Heck, I’d like to see an Obama/McCain ’08 ticket!
Just my 2c.
I am truly horrified with each passing day that I will be forced to vote Republican. I say that not because I believe that McCain is the next Carter or Roosevelt but I think when you compare Obama and McCain, McCain is the lesser of the two evils.
Where is Jimmy Carter when you need him???
Obama for the win.
-David
McCain has my vote
I still think we should re-elect good old Abe Lincoln.
That’s so easy. Ron Paul.
Meh. They’re both really liberal.
@MikeTwo - all candidates run saying that they want to bring the two parties together. Bush did the same. Obama has the most liberal record in congress, I seriously doubt he is going to turn purple and bring the two parties together.
Without national security we have nothing. College classes do not qualify as foreign policy experience. McCain has my vote.
I don’t like either one
@dropsofjupiterihh - You are correct that Obama has a very liberal record. Nevertheless, being liberal and “crossing the aisle” are not mutually exclusive things. Your opinion goes against both the majority of opinions out there in Op-Ed pieces (see this piece, for example, or just google “Purple Obama”); but more importantly it goes against the statistics.
He’s got the majority of the independent vote in literally every election so far (except maybe NH). Bringing the parties together is effectively the same as getting the independent vote. Those are the purple people — the conservatives who don’t care too much about wedge issues like gay marriage, or the liberals who don’t care too much about gun control. Those are the people that represent “common ground” for the parties, and those people have so far overwhelmingly chosen Obama.
Lastly, if national security were really the top priority, you should have been promoting Joe Biden. He’s got more experience in that arena than basically everyone else combined. I disagree that that is the most important issue though. Do you think our country would collapse after another 9/11? I don’t. Another 4 or 5 9/11s? I still say no!
The fact of the matter is that 3 million could die tomorrow in Chicago from a dirty bomb and the world wouldn’t end. We wouldn’t be hitting the deck with nukes, and we wouldn’t have a systematic collapse of our country ala the Soviet Union. We haven’t faced an imminent threat since the Cuban Missile Crisis. This opinion is shared by the guy who’s been advising the Pentagon in war matters since the Cold War (great lecture btw!).
So I don’t understand where your fears are stemming from…
Obama, unless you are in favor of our troops being in Iraq for a million years..
HMM….Obama …..then we will be able to prove the used to be minority will now be complete……we will become exciled to Cuba……I say put Hillary in there after all England has a queen…….
Wow. What choices… not happy with either, Dan.
McCain I suppose, but…
There is no question: John McCain is a better man and would make a better president.
I’m so wishy washy on this topic. I like these candidates way more then the ones who ran last time, but right now I’d have to say Obama.
McCain is the lesser of the evils.
McCain. I’m afraid that people are voting for obama just because he’s black.
OBAMA!!!!
Obama. Dan, do you think your subscribers are a good representation of the population? Or do you think they lean to the cons/lib side?
I don’t know, I have to read up on both of them. Any word you hear on “experience” is really “knows how to play the game”.In that sense Obama is not so experienced at making sure lobbys are taken care of when big votes come around because he hasn’t been in national politics long enough to have wracked up big corporate sponsors yet.
But he has “played the game.” He was accepting bribes in Illinois just like everyone else. If he really was president would he go after the district attorneys who threaten the corrupt Richard Daley empire as a way of saying thanks to the corrupt Illinois state politicians who helped get him started?
I would be reading up on them right now but my bedtime reading is the Federalist Papers.
I wonder if Alexander Hamilton accepted bribes?
@hello_insanity - That’s exactly how I feel!
McCain has my vote, though I’d be happy w/ Obama too. At this point, I’m ABC (anything but Clinton).
obama, but i think hilary will end up being his vice. president that is.
Obama. He will bring good change for this country.
Some of your responses scare me….they’re just so ignorant. Not who you’re voting for, but why….creepy.
They’re both going to steal my money, so what’s the use?
Gosh, Dan- That is like asking “Who would u choose to be the ‘FORK’ in your ‘MICROWAVE of Life’ “…
McCain I suspect, but that this point its more voiting for the lesser of two evils than anyone I’d actually like to see in office. Hell, I’d vote for the lunch lady in my old high school before I’d vote either of these guys in.
That’s a hard choice too. I guess Obama, since he is more committed to diplomacy and would be more interested in ending the war (McCain said we can stay there for 100 years if we have to… and we’ll be paying for that how?). I like McCain’s stands on immigration and abortion and dislike Obama’s stands/votes on abortion and that stupid border fence. As far as who would be better on the economy (the most important issue) – you know, I really don’t know. McCain seems old vanguard to me, while Obama seems to represent a younger generation, one that perhaps should be given a chance. The older generation has already had its time in power. I think that if chosen McCain would be a decent leader, and if chosen Obama would be a good leader. I actually like them both and would really have to think about the choice if it comes down to them.
I feel a little bad for Hillary. She’s been knocking herself out with this presidential bid for quite some time.
obama.
Given the choice between centrism and extreme liberalism…McCain.
obama
Obama. He has the ability to inspire us to get back on track as a nation and change the way the world looks at the US! Don’t downplay this ability! An inspired nation has the ability to enact real change!
ryc: I know you are so right!!! I just watched the vid of that police officer beating ….jeeze
@MikeTwo - Your posts make me happy.
Since when did liberal become a negative term? >.>
America stuck in the Stone Age
Obbbbbaaammmaaaaa.
@MikeTwo -
“So I don’t understand where your fears are stemming from…”
FoxNews?
@EarthsAzureLight -
LOL! It’s a dirty word, don’t you know?
The question is, who will make a better president: Obama or McCain’s vice president? I’ll be surprised if McCain lives through a full term!
i would have to go with the experience. it’s just not a job for an amateur
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Either one is a bad choice.
But I’d rather have Obama over McCain, who is like a second Bush.
Neither…they both suck!! Who wants McCain who flip flops on what he says and who wants Obama who might or might not have muslim ties? Yeah…great choices.
I want to vote for someone who will unite, not seperate. If McCain cant keep it together in his own party now, then I certainly dont want him for later. Obama is a smooth talker, but his economic plan is awesome. Plus, if you think Obama is really left, then Clinton is off the charts.
I dislike both of them, but I have a feeling that I would be keeping more of my paycheck if McCain gets elected.
Mickey Mouse
You have GOT to be KIDDING.
you would want more of the same old same old, WORSE? (with a Republican president) Egads.
As a dyed in the wool Democrat, I would have to go with…McCain.
I’m all for McCain. I think Obama would do a good job too, but McCain is the candidate for me.
I’m not sure.
Obama. I don’t like him, but he’s a Democrat with Democrat policies. McCain is a Republican with Democrat policies. McCain is a Pepsi in a Coke Glass. Obama is a Coke in a Coke glass.
The G.O.P. needs to run a Repubican in 2012
McCain by a long shot. Sen. Obama is a nice guy, but seems to have little idea how a country actually works.
Obama by a long shot!!!!!!!!!!
Obama
Not a fan of either one. I like the enthusiasm Obama brings to the field but I think I’d go with McCain as the lesser of two evils.
Let’s all move to another country and call it Xangaland. And we will be jolly and happy and … idk.
Eh. I’m not thrilled with either, but in response to your question I would suppose McCain would be the better President.
I’m not thrilled with the choices however, I think I’ll go with Obama (and I’ve voted Republican all my life)
Obama. (My spell checker says that’s spelled wrong and wants to correct it to “Osama”. Bummer.)
Anyone to defeat McCain. He suffered severely during his military service and I fear he will act according to the effects of that suffering. He is clearly comfortable with war, in spite of his own experience, and I think he has a score to settle. I’m not at all confident that he would direct his aggression in a way that is safe for America. I find the idea of McCain being President to be a very frightening thought. I have reservations about both Obama and Hillary, but they pale in comparison to my thoughts about McCain. I wish I had the freedom to vote Green, but I will have to vote democratic this time.
The fact that that is the choice left to me, sickens me deeply. I don’t want either one in office. Issues on both sides. I’m in Wisconsin. I voted yesterday. For Ron Paul. Call it a rebel vote. I know he doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning, and that not everything he stands for is rationally feasible, but he’s the most reasonable and sensible of the lot of them that started out. I got stuck like that last election as well. Hated everybody who ended up on the ballot. It’s a privilege to vote and I take that freedom seriously, but it’s deeply distressing when I am left having to choose the lesser of evils rather than someone who really WOULD do a good job.
I would say McCain. I like Obama and LOVE the fact that he is beating Clinton right now (fingers crossed- ABC HAHA I love that)
I will say I dont agree 100% with either of their views but then again noone ever agrees 100% with any candidate. I have to choose which views are most important to me personally and vote based on that. Look at the issues, Immigration, economy, security, the war. I am split between McCain and Obama but McCain leans more toward my views so thats where I vote.
I would have to say Obama.
Obama for the sake of cleaning (White) House and international relations. The rest of the world hates us, and Obama’s international upbringing could help our image.
but…
McCain is a vet and he understands military logistics more. This is important when the rest of the world hates us and we continue to invade and “liberate” other countries.
mccain
McCain, but not happily. I still prefer Pogo Possum. “I Go Pogo!” (Sorry if anyone under 65 doesn’t understand.)
McCain
Obama.
Obama, if for no other reason than he will probably still be on earth in 4 years.
McCain.
Seeing that McCain has more experience than Obama and was in a war…for sure McCain! Plus I’m a Republican…(Obama is a terrorist in disguise). lol. Uh oh, I’m going to get some backlash from other subscribers…
This is how I see it. I wanted Romney. McCain picks Romney as his running mate…McCain dies in office…Romney becomes president. yep.
im comfortably cool
Of the two, I suppose McCain…
obama
McCain
McCain. Obama keeps saying that it is time for a change, but he very rarely mentions anything about actual changes. I like his charisma, but I am beginning to think he’s a bunch of hot air.
I’d like to see a McCain/Condoleezza Rice ticket.
Obama
Obama please!
I didn’t want Obama winning here tonight and I don’t want him being President…so I guess that leaves McCain, cuz I don’t like Hillary either. Not like I get to vote or anything…
woot go wisconsin!!!
I’m sorry, President Barak Obama sounds like tongue twister. Even though John McCain is too liberal for the conservatives, I think he will make a better president. He was a brave soldier, he’s older and is more experienced in the political arena.
Did you see him escape death from the fire on the ship he was waiting to fly his fighter jet? “With his aircraft surrounded by flames, McCain escaped by climbing out of the cockpit, walking down the nose and jumping off the refueling probe.” I saw the documentary showing him jumping off the cockpit surrounded in flames! Over 150 sailors died in that fire. Also when the VC (Vietnamese Communists) decided to release him from the “Ha Noi Hilton” (jail in North Viet Nam), he refused to leave then and suggested the VC to release his roomate/buddy whom he felt needed to go home before he did.
I’ll vote for John McCain.
I don’t know. I have to do more research on both of them before choosing.
Mc Cain. and VP?
Obama
Chant with me now: . . . Obama . . . Obama . . . Obama
Obama, obviously. McCain has admitted to being racist against certain other nationalities. How the heck can we expect him to keep cooperative relationships with leaders from other countries?
Obama. I think he’s a stronger Christian than McCain, and besides McCain is racist. He even admits hating all “the damn gooks.”
Who cares. They both work for the NWO.
Obama. we’re voting for a president, not an economist that will solve our economic issues. He’s a not a politician (like Arnold in CA) and I’m sure he’ll do well by not playing any political games. He’ll get us there.
Obama…
Obama
As a female, I can say that I never want Hillary to become president (she doesn’t seem very diplomatic, and always seems to have a deer in the headlights look… just my opinion) , but between Barack and Hillary, the choice would have to be Hillary (Barack doesn’t have enough experience… he can always run for president later). However, between Hillary and McCain, it would have to be McCain (tons more experience than both… so easy choice.)
I’m surprised by some of the responses. I really am. Let’s take a few misconceptions and point them out:
randomneuralfirings said “Given the choice between centrism and extreme liberalism…McCain.”
Are the policies of the left “extreme liberalism.” Not according to the rest of the world. The US slants heavily to the right when compared to everyone else. If Obama were in England, he’d be considered a centrist and McCain would be the extreme right. Ditto for most of Europe (particularly Sweden). This doesn’t prove any one side is better (popularity does not = correct), but it’s just pointing out that the scale you use to judge how liberal someone is is different from the global one.
MyOrganizedMess said: “Neither…they both suck!! Who wants McCain who flip flops on what he
says and who wants Obama who might or might not have muslim ties?”
I won’t mention that using Muslim as a pejorative here makes you a creedist. (Like racist, except with religions). In addition, you get your news from Fox — you should branch out more. Obama’s entire life has been examined with a fine-toothed comb at this point. He has no “ties” that you should be afraid of. And it would be nice if fear and creedism didn’t play as much of a role in people’s decisions…
ncsbert said: “I dislike both of them, but I have a feeling that I would be keeping more of my paycheck if McCain gets elected.”
Instead of going with your gut, go with your brain. For one, Republicans cannot possibly bring up the “tax and spend” phrase this election, after running up the most enormous deficit this country has ever seen. (Notice this? Is that the conservative ideal of “small government?!”) Most of it is due to the war, which would continue under McCain and stop under Obama. No universal healthcare package, even one in which the gov’t basically subsidizes everyone, comes close to how much the war is costing us per year. (roughly ~$100bn/yr for Iraq vs ~$69bn/yr (high estimate, pg 4) for universal healthcare). Want to save money? Vote Obama. (Especially if you make less than 50k — you’ll get tax breaks).
SapphireEyes said: “Obama keeps saying that it is time for a change, but he very rarely
mentions anything about actual changes. I like his charisma, but I am
beginning to think he’s a bunch of hot air.”
I hate to call you out on this, but have you ever actually *looked* for what his policies will be? Speeches are not where you present the boring details of a 100-pg policy document, it’s where you inspire and motivate people.
Here are Obama’s policies on Economics (48 pages), on K-12 Education (15 pages), on Energy (11 pages), and on Foreign Policy (4 speeches and a 5-page summary). These are just 4 of the 26 Issues that each have their own page with numerous details. The site in total is several hundred pages thick, and would probably take you a full day or two to read.
So please, let’s put to rest the “he’s all hot air” charge. The soundbyte-politicians are just taking advantage of people being too lazy and gullible to check it out for themselves.