June 20, 2008
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The Best Diet For Our Prisoners
A man in prison has won a civil rights case over his diet while in prison.
The man was sentenced to life in prison after he was convicted of beating his 5-year-old son to death. The man is a Buddhist and said the prison was violating his “civil rights by denying him a vegan diet.”
The prison had offered him a “standard vegetarian diet.” But he wanted the diet to exclude “all animal products, including eggs and milk products.” Here is the link: Link
Do you think a prison should be forced to give a vegan diet to prisoners if it is to allow for their religious rights?
Comments (158)
All I know is I hope vegans get beat in hospitals if they get as whiny as some of them are to me.
“I can’t eat there, they have chicken on the menu.”"Well, you don’t have to eat the chicken, you trendy fuckface.”
Let me guess, he was beating his son to teach him to suffer?
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no.
their rights got extremely limited the moment they violated the law.
i don’t think prisons should be FORCED to provide it, but i think they should make it an option at some of them. even though the prisoners did something wrong, they have strong beliefs that are very important to them. depending on the severity of the prisoner’s crime, i think his or her beliefs should be respected.
If Buddhism requires vegetarianism… then yes. Our law system gives all sorts of leeway in order to keep people from feeling like they will go to Hell in their current situation.
People might of course point out that beating a child to death isn’t exactly conducive to going to Heaven.
I guess I’m always a tad suspicious of how people are convicted in this country. I rarely feel confident enough to say someone DEFINITELY committed a crime. Generally confessions are the only thing that can make me sure of it.
They should be happy they’re given anything. Unless you have a severe food allergy, you eat what you are given or you starve. One less mouth to feed from taxpayer money is not going to gain any sympathy.
maybe it wasn’t a good idea becoming vegan in prison. I think it’s possible to be a Buddhist, without being vegan.
@fullmetalbunny - I’m pretty sure he violated Buddhism when he killed his son.
But don’t quote me on that.
Aren’t Buddhists respectful of all life, to the point where they don’t even kill vermin or rodents? This jackass beat his SON to death!! I say NO SOUP FOR YOU!! He’s got some fucking nerve, that’s what I say.
I’m reading a story of prisoners under Communist Romania and the conditions they lived in. Food was a blessing, whether kosher or not. But, in our world today of quasi-tolerance, I suppose he should get it.
vegetarian should be enough for the vegan. if he really is buddhist, then beating his son to death is rather the opposite of considering all life precious..
If you beat a child, or anyone for that matter, to death then you give up your rights. You take the life and rights of another, you forfeit yours.
If the man is vegan for religious reasons, the prison does not have a choice. They have to respect his faith.
what about the right of his dead 5 year old son to live? If he is that strict of a Buddhist, isn’t he supposed to respect life? Not killing is part of respecting life isn’t it? sigh.
Nope. This guy lost the right to control his diet (or any of his life) when he killed his son. It’s prison, not vacation.
no
@wearywalden - He beat a child to death, so the prison has to cater to his needs? I dont think so. You are crazy!
@adifferentkindofbeautiful - Well, like I said, the way people get convicted in this country worries me. I wouldn’t want an innocent person to be sent to prison, then be told on top of that that they had to violate their beliefs.
I’m such a bleeding heart.
@fullmetalbunny - He beat his five week old son to death AND attacked the mother.
I have no worries for him in the least.
If a man beat his kid to death, I don’t think he should be getting ANY options.
I agree totally with what SladeTheGreyFox said.
Kathi
@adifferentkindofbeautiful - Okay, I can see that… if he’s guilty, then he is. It’s just I’m also thinking of the system as a whole. We can’t take away the vegetarian option from only the people we’re absolutely certain are guilty but leave it for those who we think might not be. I mean, the law figures anyone who’s incarcerated IS guilty. So….
It’s not exactly about this guy. It’s about policy. But I’m not arguing, only saying.
Absolutely not. He lost his right to chose his diet when he committed a crime. Vegetarian fare is offered. He should receive no more special treatment than that, and he should be glad that is an option.
@fullmetalbunny - Well he was prosecuted in Boston; I’m thinking he had a good defense.
wouldn’t it be cheaper to make all prisoners become vegans?
Nope. But I think he should be offered a last cigar.
yes, but only if the prisoner is white.
@SamsMom1004 - @CrazyXBeautifulXDisaster -
The reason they need to provide it is in the Constitution. You don’t give up your rights for committing murder. He has the right to practice his religion and one of the facets of Buddhism is the sanctity of all life. That murder goes against those facets is irrelevant; he chose Buddhism years after his incarceration.
A citizen of the United States, with every right of a citizen save voting, should be granted a meal that complies with his religious beliefs.
@woodrowwilson - …LOL!
@woodrowwilson - Good point… they should grow their own vegetables too, although I’d be wary of prisoners with garden tools.
@another_rebel_without_a_cause - I simply just dont agree
@Drakonskyr - Amen!
I honestly don’t care about the civil rights of prisoners who have been convicted of beating 5 year olds to death. It seems that others rights don’t mean much to him…so let him stew with his vegetarian diet.
If he could get beans and rice from the canteen, why was the rest of the vegan diet necessary? It follows the 2000 statute to allow him a vegan diet, but I personally believe that the man should be grateful that he has food. He is paying for a crime; personal peace is not a part of paying for a crime. He lost his rights when he killed his son. He should be thankful he’s alive and Karma isn’t instant.
The guy beat his son to death he should consider himself lucky that he’s getting off so light so in this case I would say no fucking way.
Yes. We’re not animals and we shouldn’t treat people like they’re animals, even if they are criminals. Plus, he is a citizen and citizens deserve all their rights.
i think the fact that he’s in prison means he’s given up his rights.
I’m really surprised by a lot of the comments here.
uh, no way. they’re in prision, not summer camp! our tax dollars are better spent somewhere else!
I think the notion that prison inmates retain the same rights as you and I is a load of crap. Especially in this guys case. He lost his ability to make his own decisions when he killed a 5 year old. Has anyone else noticed that prison seems to be the best place to get religious all of the sudden?
It was always my understanding that you give up your rights once you violate the law. Thus it is my opinion that any attempted lawsuit brought about by an inmate or on behalf of an inmate should be immediately thrown out.
@shanella - There are still their basic human rights. He wouldn’t have won the civil case if this was not true.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
@Irish_Russian - He was religious before he was incarcerated.
I’m glad most of you don’t operate in any legal field and can’t actually have any impact on these type of cases.
@pnklace - Here is a portion of the story from FOXNews.com
“Yeboah-Sefah, formerly known as Henry Boateng, is serving a life sentence for beating his 5-week-old son to death in 1992. He converted and changed his name while in prison.”
Well, really, if the man wanted a vegan diet, he could just not eat the stuff with eggs and milk in it… So essentially fruit and veggies and nuts. If I were strictly vegan, I’d try not to make a fuss about it.
But I do like my milk and eggs and meat.
I think so.
Not all vegans who are in jail are in jail for murder. And not everyone in jail is actually guilty anyway. And I can think of a few different eastern religions that require a very strict diet. I think its cruel and unusual to force someone to commit sacrilege on a regular basis.
Frankly, I think it would be pretty inexpensive to provide simple vegan meals (beans and rice are cheap and good for you) and maybe they should think about doing it for the entire prison population. You don’t really need to eat meat to fullfill your nutritional requirements and its expensive anyway!
That man deserves to be beaten just like he did to his kid not get meals of his choosing!!!!
I think religious diets need to be accomadated, but I did not know that Buddhists had issue with all animal products.
@CrazyXBeautifulXDisaster -They cannot discriminate against his religious beliefs. Do they serve kosher meals to Jewish imamates, pork free meals to Muslim imamates, and meatless meals to Catholics on Fridays during lent? Probably. A prisoner is still allowed to practice their religion and often that includes eating a restricted diet. A person does not lose their right to the free practice of religion because they are convicted of a crime
@wearywalden - well they should
no O_o killing your son is against buddhism ideas ._.
Its against MY own personal religion…
To let the Bastard live.
Who in hell runs these chicken scratch courts?
Sissies
Idk. As a vegetarian, I wouldn’t want to be denied my lifestyle, but I can see how he made the choice to limit his own rights when he killed his son.
Ntm…I’ve never heard of a buddhist murderer…hypocrite? check!… But I suppose I don’t know the whole story.
It is not the Burger king,they can not make special orders for every inmate .
Has nobody considered the idea that he could have become a Buddhist WHILE IN PRISON? Much like there are stories of prisoners becoming Christian while in prison.
Anyway, yes, I do. He is still a human being.
@Drakonskyr - I like the Jim Gaffagan approach.
“Do you know what they do to those chickens?”
“No, but it’s delicious.”
Give him the diet, but if he complains about his clothes, well that’s just too bad.
I thought he lost his civil rights when he beat his five-year-old son to death….
And by the way, the kid was 5 WEEKS old.
@barbaradesmond - Life in prison with no parole is light? I’d say that’s pretty just.
@seedsower - It is not the Burger king,they can not make special orders for every inmate.
You’re trivializing the issue. It’s not as if “veganism” and “Buddhism” was faked by the inmate to get a juicy whopper.
Gross violation of an inmate’s religious beliefs would constitute cruel & unusual punishment. If denying this man a vegan meal is fair, then so is forcing pork onto a Muslim prisoner and beef onto the Buddhist prisoner.
no- you gave up your rights, all rights, when you were arrested. you broke the law. if you wanted your rights, you should’ve thought about that before killing someone.
@mileyfan08 - I thought he lost his civil rights when he beat his five-year-old son to death….
This doesn’t mean that the many inmates still possess rights of some form. It is still illegal, for instance, for prison guards to torture their prisoners.
You’re in jail. You don’t like what’s served? You don’t eat it. The only exception, I would think, would be to accommodate allergies.
@CrazyXBeautifulXDisaster - Why?
no – i don’t think they should get a special diet – i think when someone gets convicted of a felony they lose their rights as a citizen of this country… they lose their right to vote so why should their get special food – if someone was so uncaring enough to hurt another person – why should we be caring about how they feel…. i sincerely doubt that this guy cared about how his little boy felt as he was getting beaten…
Nope. His problem. He should’ve NOT beat his son to death.
@huginn - Well, yes. My wording was a bit off. I mostly meant the prison system was similar to the school system in the fact that you have to take what you get. Civil rights just came into my head as I was writing because of the type of case it was….Sorry for that.
hahaha man it be funny if they start giving them selections as to what to eat. you know how much that would screw up heads when they get out???
Don’t you loose just about all your rights in prison?
Tough shit. You beat your son to death then deal with it.
Choices have consequences
@huginn - It is not as if pork and chicken are the ONLY options at a meal,My brother was in prison and ate mashed potatoes and vegetables at almost every dinner,he now hates mashed potatoes. If there is a meal with meat such as chili then they should offer a non meat item. There should always be something they can eat but to get a whole vegan diet is not something I see as “a right”.
Dan…. am I reading the story on the link wrong or doesn’t it say 5 month old son? No… I’m wrong.
It says the son was 5 weeks old.
Seriously? I don’t think by eating vegan his karma will improve at all. There are more important things than food.
@mileyfan08 - Civil rights just came into my head as I was writing because of the type of case it was….Sorry for that
Both Dan and the article used ”civl rights” in describing the guy’s rights. I avoided the term for clarity.
I mostly meant the prison system was similar to the school system in the fact that you have to take what you get.
To a certain extent. There is a line in the constitution against cruel and unusual punishment. The exact standards of this, to me, would vary from person to person. For instance, being forced to burn the Koran, while blase to the atheist, would be deeply hurtful for a Muslim inmate. Denying a Buddhist vegan meals is as bad as offering a Hindu nothing but beef and the Muslim nothing but pork for their meals.
I think when you beat your own child to death, you lose your right to eat what you want.
What kind of buddhist beats his son to death?
@seedsower - It is not as if pork and chicken are the ONLY options at a meal,
My Muslim/ Pork and Hindu/ Beef example was an intellectual test. If offering nothing but pork to the Muslim and nothing but beef to the Hindu is violates the rights of inmates of these persuasions, then offering non-vegan meals violates the rights of the Buddhists.
Agreed: In practice, it is tougher to cater to the Buddhist; but it’s not to the point where it’s unreasoanble. The rights of the inmate, though, would outweigh the slight inconvinence with the prison shopping list.
@huginn - I had never thought of it as being cruel and unusual punishment, because I don’t really understand the whole religious restriction of food. But I guess it would be like me being denied turkey (a substitute for beef and pork due to the texture and chemicals in the meats). Thank you for putting it that way, I understand a little better now.
@xxmusicxxfreak - What kind of buddhist beats his son to death?
You’re right. This is the sort of crime we’d expect atheists and pagans to commit.
@mileyfan08 - What got me is that this guy lobbied for his darn vegan meals for 10 years. -_-
@xxmusicxxfreak - Once again, he became a Buddhist while in prison.
I don’t know. That’s too hard of an answer. How can a person that beat his child to death be a vegan anyway? So weird.
In the state of California, the Board of Corrections standards for Jails states that you must feed meat to inmates everyday. It is a state requirement. An inmate can request a vegan diet, but it is up to the facility Commander (the Warden) to make the final decision. The Warden will consult with the Chaplain to find out if there is a definite religious command to be a Vegan and with the medical department to make sure the inmate will reamain heqalthy while eating a Vegan diet. In almost every case I’ve seen, the Medical Staff will state that they cannot assure he will remain healthy if he is not eating some form of animal protein. A pregnant femake inmate will never be allowed to have a strict Vegan diet. The inmate is a ward of the state and as such. so is her unborn child. I have seen this ruling upheld in court on 3 seperate occasions.
Michael
as far as justice is concerned this man is not entitled to the same rights as every other citizen. he forfeited his rights to everything (including his own life) the moment he took the life of another innocent human being- namely his son. he can just refuse to eat the dairy and egg products and get over it.
@Drakonskyr - ROFL
Yup, that’s for sure.
But I think they should still try if it really is for religion.
@barbaradesmond - The guy beat his son to death he should consider himself lucky that he’s getting off so light so in this case I would say no fucking way.
If I were sureme dictator of the universe, I’d say fuck-it, and harvest the guy’s organs for our needy hospitals.
But this is the United States, isn’t it? There is due process. Even inmates are protected against “cruel and unusual punishment.”
how can you be buddhist and beat your son to death?
@woodrowwilson - Wouldn’t it be cheaper for all prisoners to only have lunch?
@TeaShaker27 - Have you wondered if he became one during his stay in prison?
Has anyone else thought this?
Well, religious discrimination cases must pass certain criteria, at least before the Supreme court. One of the criteria is that you must hold sincere belief. If this man was convicted of beating his son to death, it’s not very likely that he’s all that sincere in his religion.
But as a vegetarian, I think that prisons should offer vegetarian and vegan options to all inmates, regardless of religion. If a prisoner was actually vegan for most of his life before going to prison, then was not offered a vegan diet, the introduction of new foods can actually make him quite ill and die. Even those of us who believe in the death penalty would probably agree that the decision should be made in the courtroom, not by the jail warden.
@woodrowwilson - Not necessarily. They would still need to provide basic sources of protein, calcium, vitamin B, etc., and that can get pretty expensive if you’re excluding meat and dairy products.
@Southernlass - Just because someone is convicted does not mean that the person is guilty.
@wearywalden - Why should religious reasons be any different than, say, health reasons? If anything, I think health reasons are even more applicable because they have a basis in reality.
@fullmetalbunny - Buddhists don’t believe in Heaven.
@huginn - True. If it had been me, I would have just made do with the vegetarian meals, not eating the things with animal products if possible. And one does have to wonder if he became Buddhist to be able to have a case against the prison system, since he did convert while in prison….
in my opinion….he is lucky he is at least being fed!
The answer is yes. That would be like denying a Christian prisoner a Bible.
buddhists don’t believe in heaven.
nirvana is to be enlightened, the extinction of suffering through the end of desire.
Definitely!!!!! He is a horrible man but for the sake of getting a good rep for encouraging veganism(which helps animals, WHO ARE LIVING BEINGS TOO) they should certainly provide vegan food
Don’t you just love when people “pick” and “choose” what suits them out of their religion/Scripture? Hmmm….I like the part in Scripture about not committing adultery but hmmm…I don’t like the part in Scripture that says we should dress modestly, be charitable, etc. Everyone is guilty of be inconsistent. I wonder what this man is thinking. Hmmm…as if obeying by not eating no meat will somehow make up for killing his son.
like Dr. Smartypants (a differentkindofbeautiful) said…
there is a certain kind of irony in requesting a vegan diet after beating ones own child to death. I have the perfect animal free diet for him.. throw him in a well and starve him.
@Irish_Russian - I believe the original comment(s) to which you are referring are discussing legal, not practical or ethical concerns.
@SpiritualBattlefield - Free exercise generally implies that you can’t trample on anyone else’s rights while exercising your own religion.
@ETCACTOR - Thanks for your accurate and informative comment. I do want to point out that it is entirely
possible to be completely healthy without animal proteins. Sometimes
the substitutions that must be made are more expensive than the jail
would want to require, but they can be made, even for pregnant women.
I’m sure that beating your 5 year old to death is against his religious practices too.
Here’s an idea: EXECUTE the gutless murderer and what he eats immediately becomes moot point.
@la_faerie_joyeuse - Of course it’s enitrely possible that a pregnant woman can get the necessary protein needed for the baby’s development. It’s merely that the Law clearly states that she mustt eat animal protein.
Michael
No
No one is making him eat the stuff he doesn’t want.
@huginn - It is not just the shopping list.It is making and serving separate food and where to draw the line. I cooked and served food for 50 people for ten years and special orders were difficult to serve for the health reasons alone,low fat low salt,no salt, no sugar,no wheat,gluten free,no peanuts, soft food only.
isnt breakign the law a bigger sin?
Oh my goodness! This is the sort of thing that really annoys me! It’s like when people say “I don’t use protection because it’s against my religion” when I’m guessing sex before marriage is against their religion too! Bloody hypocrites!
How the hell can he be a Buddhist and beat his son to death?! I think the moment he touched his child in a harmful way negated any right to a Buddhist diet! How dare he pretend he doesn’t want to harm a living creature and thus not eat animal products when he does something horrible to his own flesh and blood!
He should have been fed pork fat every day!
I believe that the option of vegetarian and vegan diets should be available to all prisoners just as a matter of policy.
People who are saying he can’t be a Buddhist because he killed his son are missing the fact that he wasn’t a Buddhist at the time.
Screw him. He’s a convict. He lost his freedom and rights. He’ll have to make do with what he is given and should be happy they’re not telling him to suck a goat and make him eat it too.
@la_faerie_joyeuse -I agree that health concerns would be greater justification for having vegan or vegetarian meals. I was only considering the religious aspect in my response.
Do I think a prison should be forced to give a vegan diet to prisoners if it is to allow for their religious rights?
Well…Is it right that that man beat his 5 year-old son to death?Both fuck, no….and maybe a “Nigga, please.”
This guy doesn’t deserve to be alive for what he did. My answer is no. When you go to prison, you lose your civil liberties. He should eat what they provide him or starve.
@Drakonskyr - Agreed. I can’t stand most vegans.
I’m all for rights and the acceptance of another’s belief, but if they’re going to murder someone…sorry. The right to live (which he took from his kid) is way more important than his right to eat the food he would prefer.
The guy can rot. Vegeterian diet is good enough as any and he can just pick out the animal products from his food.
@wearywalden - I agree.
@woodrowwilson - Being vegan is actually more expensive than vegitarian or carnivore. Mmm I love meat
Not even considering this man’s request, wouldn’t it be cheaper for the prisons to serve up a totally vegetarian diet? I mean, keep it simple – save the taxpayer’s some money. It would improve their health, save money, and maybe get some of them redirected towards better thinking. Just a thought.
He doesn’t have to eat what they put in front of him. He beat a 5-year-old, for crying out loud. He’s in prison — do his food rights matter?
@wearywalden - because once someone kills someone, they are no longer human. They are monsters. therefore the should receive NO rights.
@CrazyXBeautifulXDisaster - What about people in the military? Are all of them monsters too?
I agree though, you shouldn’t be talking about your own personal rights when you’ve violated someone else’s.
@hecticmuse - Absolutely I was thinking the same thing …but w/o the ‘f-bomb’ of course. Go get ‘em Hector!!
Isn’t Biddhism all about peace? Yet he beat his son to death….
Since it’s his religion, he should have a special diet brought to him [I think it would be cheaper anyways, like @woodrowwilson says], but if it were for any other reason, he should be denied.
I think that once you violate the rights of others you’ve basically forfeited your own. You should just be grateful for the food they are providing you at the expense of us law-abiding citizens. I’m not saying we should be inhumane, but I don’t see any reason to cater to a criminal’s special requests. Religious or whatever. That is a luxury they’re no longer entitled to.
Seriously? He violates not only another person’s right to life, but his own son’s, and he is complaining about milk and eggs?
He gave up most of his constitutional rights the minute he lost his temper on his five-year-old.
ugh.
vegans suck.
Lol, In Maryland prisons they serve really bad prisoners a”special” kind of bread( I use to have the recipe to it, I got it out of a local paper) I think if the prisoner is complying with the guards and other staff at the prison, some bending of the rules is ok. If a prisoner is being a jerk though, he’s lucky to be getting bread ans water.
He beat his son to death… but he’s vegan? WTF?
@CrazyXBeautifulXDisaster - I wish the world was as simple as that. Sadly not every murder is a “monster.” Sometimes people make mistakes and sometimes they are costly.
I think from the article you linked, the man’s son was 5 weeks old, not 5 years.
As far as the guy goes, I’m at a loss.
I feel like the guy needs far more than a vegan diet and a few Buddhist rituals to cure his guilty conscience.
I don’t know, I generally think our prison system is in desperate need of reform. This is just further proof of that. Yikes!
@bboy_Nate - People in the military are protecting our country and freedom. That is COMPLETELY different
@wearywalden - true
It is part of our legal system as well as our society that we not torture or inflict our beliefs on anyone… so allowing him to adhere to his vegan diet would be the proper way to do it.
However, that no good son of a bitch should get nothing but rice laced with vitamins just to keep his ass alive so he can rot in that shithole. Who beats a 5 year-old to death????
I don’t value human life, or mind taking it, but please GOD DON’T FEED ME EGGS! IT’S MORALLY WRONG!
What a dick!! He is a Buddhist and can not eat anima lproducts, but he can beat his son to death? Again…what a dick! And nice tie in with your prior post, LOL.
I think it depends on a few things. Was he a vegan before, or is he just trying to be difficult?
Supposing
that he was already a vegan, I think he should be given a vegan diet.
I’m not saying it has to be king’s fare or anything, but let him
survive without contradicting a religious belief he wants to stand
by.
Yes, it’s true that he was flagrantly crossing lines in regard to his religion’s morals in the act that put him behind bars.
However,
denying him vegan food is not going to make him regret his actions any
more than the rest of the prison experience will.
well, it’d would be unconstitutional for the prison staff not to give him a vegan diet.
but at the same time, he’s in prison. and if he’s so serious about his religion that he has to eat vegan, why’d he beat his son to death? is that a buddhist thing, too?
that really sucks for the people he sued, because it’s a hard case.
very intersting
hes buddhist, and he beat his son to death. thats not very buddhist to me. he can be spiritual with meat and animal products.
If he doesn’t want to eat milk or egg products fine. He can just not eat them. But that doesn’t mean he should be given anything else. Or they could always just use the ultimate back up sandwich: Peanut Butter and Jelly. (Actually, I don’t know, that may have milk and or eggs. Darn it. He can just not eat then.)
That’s a hard question…I don’t know…
Yes.
@fullmetalbunny - in 1984 they get confessions for anything
yes, theyre still people. but there are many other more important things that need to change about prisosns.
is the 5 year old allowed a vegan diet? oh wait…NO because he’s dead. So this asshole should get the same as what the child gets…nothing.
@CrazyXBeautifulXDisaster - You do realize that this “protection of freedom” comes at the cost of many civilian lives, don’t you? You’re telling me that the man who kills a child’s family and leaves him orphaned is a hero just because he does it as part of the army? There’s also many different reasons for war. Sometimes it’s not even freedom that’s at stake.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not ungrateful for the service of these men and women. I just don’t think that death should be glorified just because it’s done in the name of the military.
for beating a 5 year old to death? He should have to eat raw meat for the rest of his life. Better yet….let’s go ahead and kill him since he is wasting tax payer money.
Life in prison is a waste of time, money……
Ummm I guess i will go ahead and say i know dna evidence is proving a lot of people innocence….but IF without a shadow of a doubt he killed her….then i say he dies.
Yes. Regardless of his crime, he and anyone else should be able to have a vegan diet in prison. Why get all subjective about a standard that effects more than one prisoner?
i think he should be put to a good use. i believe he should grow his own food. be put out in the middle of winter to shovel snow. be put out in the summer to sow the plant. be put out to give us “society” valuable license plate. he should wash his own clothes. why should we as a society subsidize his living when he has provided us with nothing of value. why do we as society get nothing for the well being of criminals? i don’t get anything from the government but these criminals get 3 square meals. place to sleep. leisure time. recreation time. and all these accommodations. this is so wrong.
While I agree that their rights should be restricted once they are incarcerated, especially something as heinous as beating your child, why couldn’t they do with vegetarian over vegan?
He beat his kid to death. Doesn’t that, somewhere, go against Buddhism a hundred times harder than, ya know, what he eats?
no one should be FORCED to do anything….
No I don’t believe they should change his diet because of his religion. Especially not when he was imprisoned for beating a child.
He should just be forced to eat meat and things derived from animals as an additional punishment.
I’m not sure how I feel about his case, but vegan meals should be offered simply because there might be people doing time for lesser crimes who are vegan.
Also, you don’t lose all your rights when you commit a crime; i.e. the right to legal counsel.
I don’t see what the problem is. Beans and rice, bread and water. All vegan and cheaper than a meat diet anyway. Give him a vegan diet, he’s entitled to it. But it doesn’t have to have a lot of variety in it.
What if his roomate, Bubba eats his vegan meal everyday?
it pains me to think that he considers himself so strictly Buddhist that he can only follow a vegan diet……but beating his little boy to death is a-okay…weird.
I think people who go to jail for serious crimes, I’m not talking about smoking marijuana or petty theft, have already negated their rights to ANYTHING. They should not get to choose what they eat, their religious rights have no need to be respected and they should not have access to entertainment, perhaps only books if they want them or the possibility of getting educated, but that’s all. If prison is like regular life, only it’s paid for, it becomes much too attractive to people pre-disposed to commiting crimes in the first place.
I may sound harsh, but I fing it disgusting that some criminals have better access to good food, entertainment and education than many honnest and hardworking people who can’t make ends meet on minimum wage.
you lose your rights when you are in prison and don’t regain them until you leave, so, seeing that he broke the law and the laws of his religion, vegetarian should be enough for him
No, sorry but if you commit a crime and land in jail then you lose certain rights… I personally don’t want to pay for this criminal to have his vegan diet when I can barely afford my own groceries. Unless there is a medical reason for his diet, he should take what he’s being given and be thankfull for it.
Absolutely. As long as they eat it from the rotting carcass of their favorite animal as a bowl… send all your hate mail to wrybread@ineedmorecoffee….
If prisons are willing to make allowances for vegetarians, they should make allowances for vegans.
Those fuckbags should be begging for whatever fucking food they’re given to the point that this vegan or vegetarian bull shit doesn’t matter any more because it’s a matter of life or death to them.
You know why?
CUZ IT’S PRISON.
…and my tax money
stupid hippies