shhhh! Don’t tell them Daniel Boone, we need to keep this our little secret-but I wrote the bible…one night when I couldn’t sleep.
second?
Men wrote in God’s inspiration, I think.
A.
C, man wrote it by inspiration from the Holy Spirit
Typo in C? Or Freudian slip?
I say C. Because Paul throws in his own opinions, which he admits to being his own opinions and not necessarily God’s, in the New Testament.
Some sailors went to C, C, C, to see what they could C C C, but all that they could C, C, C, was the bottom of the deep blue C, C, C!
(I would’ve just said C, but an impromptu song seemed more fun.)
Ha! ^^^^ I HATE when people tell me “First!!!!” on my site, but this is different; I don’t think I have ever been first on your site (nor do I try to be), but still–I impress me.
And I really DID write the Bible. It was all an acid trip.
Definately C, men inspired through the Holy Spirit. 66 books written by 40 authors all under the divine inspiration of the paraclete.
A. A bunch of men.
A
c-for the most part.
Both A and C. Some books are historical accounts of events while others are Godly inspirations recorded by men.
D – Bible-Ninjas inspired by God
C – Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
Men wrote it by inspiration of God.
God told them exactly what to say
A
Martians from outer space.
E. Bible ninja pirates.
Also, +1 charisma to whoever said paraclete. I love that word.
J. – Nathan Christein wrote the bible.
REJOICE FOR HE IS RISEN!
Wait, he isn’t.
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A.
And C is a stupid answer, if God wanted it to be written he should have just done it himself so that it couldn’t be disputed. I mean, he should have known that that was coming, right?
c
A and C.
However, the Bible has been edited many times by HUMANS.
Recorded by men. Edited by men.
Hmm.. Does God even exist?
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C
a bunch of men.
c.
the men
A inspired by the notion that they can communicate with good.
A & C, like so many others have said.
of course is was number C…who else but the Holy Ghost inspired those great men…Smile
a & c
The answer is C. However nonbelievers would say A and stupid people would say B.
I personally think Chuck Norris wrote the Bible, he is all three isn’t he? (This is my poor excuse to a Chuck Norris reference lol.)
running out of questions to ask?
A and C
A. A bunch of Men
I like how people are answering as if their own response is supposed to be true for everyone else.
C.
the obvious answer!!!
A.
A. No contest.
@VaultESL - HA HA HA HA HA HA. Thanks for the laugh
I’d have to say A & C.
C
Mostly C.. but also A and B mixed together..
C. Si?
C.
Assuming you’re referring to the same scriptural canon as I am, C – men inspired by God.
2 Timothy 3:16 says that all scripture is inspired by God, so that’s what the Bible itself claims. Though a few parts, such as the 10 commandments, were actually, physically, written by God Himself.
None of the above. Or rather a combination of A and C. Some of it would have been “inspired by God”. Some of it is just accounts that were kept.
C, but I think some things may have gotten lost in translation….
C. Emphatically, C.
A
C
A
Men wrote the Bible. If it was under the direction/influence/guidance of a higher power none of us can know for certain or not.
I would say C. But I also believe that you can see the personalities of the individual writers in the parts they wrote. An example would be the differences in the Gospels. Each writer saw something a little different. The book of John for instance is very different from the other gospels. It’s a very intimate book about the loving, nurturing character of Christ because John was one of Jesus’ best friends here on the earth. That was only one example.
A
C…I would have put it in a song, but I lack the required creativity….
C.
C.
plus esther! she’s the only one that doesnt mention god right?
A
The right answer is (A) a bunch of men. Men loves to make up lies, I mean stories. The bible is biggest one of them all.
The bible contains the words of God, the words of man, the words of angels, and the words of satan.
C. Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
A.
Sea.
THE TRUTH:
C.
A.
a
C
Considering I just wrote an entry on this….I’d say a bunch of different men, who believed in God, but not completely inspired by God.
Is this a trick question or a question from “Are you smarter than a 5th grader”?
I’m going with Charlie on this one.
I think I’ve learned C
C: men wrote it by inspiration from God.
C~~~~~
C
d. walt disney.
C… and thus B is indirectly true
C. Only, men influenced by what they believed to be the Holy Spirit/God
C.
A
A and C
I would say that is was written by men with intention of showing the relationship their people and places had with God.
It had special purpose, but was written by men.
That does not make it less sacred to me.
I’d say A … but might say C depending how you interpret “inspired by” (ie. I will write a poem inspired by a flower… but that doesn’t mean that my poem is the flower’s word) … I don’t believe the whole Bible is inerrant, nor that it is all the Word of God — David’s Psalms were prayers TO God, not God’s word… many other arguments could follow, but I won’t blog your comments. (I won’t. I won’t. I won’t….!)
I believe The Holy Bible was once inspired by the Great Divine (God/Goddess), yet it was physically written by as well as translated over time by the hands of impefect men who had their own selfish agendas. That’s why I take everything that The Holy Bible says with a very large grain of salt. I don’t believe that The Holy Bible is the only spiritual text from which to gain spiritual wisdom. I also suppliment my studies with Gnostic texts such as The Pistis Sophia, The Nag Hammadi, and The Lost Books Of The Bible.
C
c
As a writer myself, I could always make the claim that I was inspired by God in everything I wrote. And who could dispute me? The answer’s A.
A.
A and C leaning a bit more towards C. But the churches always seem to cover everything up so who knows?
Since everything people do generally is a mixture of good and bad, I suppose A and C: written by a bunch of men, and by men inspired by God.
But questions like this always sound weird to me; always sound to be tied to that strange tribal deity who – though all-powerful – pokes definite instructions through the indefinite medium of badly recorded history, as though powerless go do better. Rather like an angry landlord shouting through a keyhole, because he can’t open the door.
@whataboutbahb - Men wrote the Bible. If it was under the direction/influence/guidance of a higher power none of us can know for certain or not.
From what we know, we can grade a likilihood to the proposition.
D .. A bunch of teens who wanted to drive the world insane with lost hopes so that the parents would then know what it feels like to be alone and lost and always begging for answers and help and needing solutions to make money instantly fall out of no where… . And a few women, while their husbands were out hunting.
a.
C is what most Christians believe, in case you forgot. You should read Proverbs 29:2 if you get a chance.
I used to think C but now my mind is starting to question and think A
A.) The Bible is an anthology: A fine weaving of myth and superstitious bullshit.
The claims of the Bible are no more distinguished than the holy book of any other religion. Yes: There is a factual basis to the Bible. Like any other old religion, stories and claims are made in historical context.
I can show that there is an actual, historical, Troy, but that doesn’t fucking well mean that The Iliad is true, right?
A. But of course that’s my answer.
People wrote it.
If God is really this wise, powerful being, why didn’t he beam the content of the Bibles into our heads? Or have us born with the knowledge of the Bible?
Instead, God, in all his greatness, handicapped himself with a doubtable and flawed medium. The same medium partaken by his competitors: Allah, Buddha, and Harry Potter.
Religious Multiple Choice? I suppose C…
C … 40 different authors from many different walks of life under divine inspiration, spanning a 1500 year period and all basically saying the same thing: man has sinned; no man can save himself from his sin; God so loved man (even while a sinner) that He would send a Savior … all foolishness to the natural man.
mmmm, A
C. Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
@Soultender - 40 different authors from many different walks of life under divine inspiration, spanning a 1500 year period and all basically saying the same thing
That’s only because a central authoriy collected, edited, and put together the Bible.
i believe it was Men guided by the Holy Ghost and God
@they_callmefaith - Like how the archangel Gabriel, one sunny afternoon, visited Mohammad ? Or how Joseph Smith found a bunca golden tablets?
i’d go with option C.
The bible is the word of God.
B
@huginn - i am LDS thank-You very much. yes i believe Joesph Smith by the Power of God translated the Gold Tablets that Moroni burried.
C. but, little do many know is that the catholics…seasoned the Bible with some things, in order to convert pagans….so partly A as well.
C… yet, the books weren’t settled upon until 382 AD @ the council of Rome. There were many versions then a Freemason by the name of King James had monks do some retranslating and came up with an “Authorized Version”. Language is always changing and evolving, and words that mean one thing in one century mean another thing in the next century. Perhaps that is why NIV and NASB have updated their versions recently as well.
@huginn - yes there is Jewish concepts in the Book of Mormon and We believe that the Native Americans are Decendants of out Mormon forefathers
@they_callmefaith - The thing is that there ougth to have been genetic traces of such a decendence in modern Native American tribes. So far, none has been found.
That aside. I’m sad you guys can’t drink coffee.
Al Gore invented the Bible.
I’m sure everyone involved THOUGHT they were being divinely inspired. I’m sure the people who wrote the Bible were Jewish and Christians themselves and not just nasty scientologists hoping to profit off of the spiritual hopes of the masses. But yes, I do believe there was a bit of delusion involved. -David
i don’t think it matters – it is what it is… it’s the bible and you’ll never convince some people of its significance and you’ll never get others to not believe in its holiness…
I’m an empirist first. My skeptisim is towards elaborate explainations when simple ones suffice. So I’m not too hot on grassy knolls. =P
I do like debating conspiracy theroies, though. =)
A. A bunch of men.
c
Definitely C
Men wrote it by inspiration from God. However if the Message which was revealed by God to a Prophet has not reached us exactly as it was delivered, but has been misreported and altered, then to that extent that religion may be regarded as having deviated from truth.
Definitely A. Please tally this up…I’d love to see the numbers!
i like this question because it shows how many christians like to use bad puns, and how many non-believers are jerks. i would fall into the later category, saying, “A!” with my fellow jerks.
and just to be fair, some christians are jerks too.
D. None of the Above
@huginn - i really enjoy how much trouble your comments stir up, even when it’s with me.
C- which only speaks all the more to its solidarity when one looks at the vast amount of time that spanned the writing of the two testaments. most of the writers never met each other. yet all 66 books are in tune with one another and shed light on one another as though they were written by one author. i have heard it quipped and i heartily agree: “the OT is the NT concealed and the NT is the OT revealed.”
Furthermore, the Scriptures themselves say, “Scripture cannot be broken.” and indeed it has never yet and never will as more and more archaeology, science and history continues to be unraveled and the accounts of the Bible are proven to be so perfectly accurate. It is the most accurate document known to man and it has literally changed the world- wherever it goes it brings freedom and enlightenment- and you can ask those in South America, Asia and the Middle East- it is a book worth dying for- and many to this day DO die for simply having it in their possession. Don’t believe me? go to persecution.com or Voice of the Martyrs and see for yourself. The very form of English we speak, most of the great writers of the English language which we cherish as literary giants- derived their literary genius from the English Bible- without which even Shakespeare would be a nothing inspite of all his creativity-as his wording is derived from the style that Tyndale imparted to his translations by using the Greek and Hebrew instead of the Latin. No other document is so frequently quoted in other works- indeed it is well justified to add a course to literature that serves to help sutdents understand and identify the biblical analogies and references that we find throughout Euro-American literature- and there are such courses in public schools today.
The Bible remains the best-selling book of all time- so much so that booksellers no longer bother to add it to their charts- there must obviously be something to such a book that has garnered such respect from every corner of the globe in every language into which it is translated- that evil men work so hard to suppress to their own folly.
To say such an impactful and singular work as the Bible is merely the work of men is a gross lie and misrepresentation. No man is capable of creating a work that can reach into every culture and every age and be just as meaningful as it was to its original recipients. But when men are inspired by an all-knowing God- that’s exactly what we’d expect- and that’s exactly what we have.
@PreciousOnyx - …most of the writers never met each other. yet all 66 books are in tune with one another and shed light on one another as though they were written by one author…
When Biblical canon was set, the disagreeing books were culled.
..science and history continues to be unraveled and the accounts of the Bible are proven to be so perfectly accurate…
By “science,” I really hope you don’t mean young earth creationism. -_-
…it is a book worth dying for- and many to this day DO die for simply having it in their possession. Don’t believe me? go to persecution.com or Voice of the Martyrs and see for yourself…
History will also show us that it is also a book worth killing for.
The very form of English we speak, most of the great writers of the English language which we cherish as literary giants- derived their literary genius from the English Bible- without which even Shakespeare would be a nothing inspite of all his creativity..
I would dispute the particular authors cited. But I don’t think anyone can argue against the idea of religious inspiration in the the arts. The Bible itself, though, doesn’t have to be true for it to be inspirational.
The Bible remains the best-selling book of all time- so much so that booksellers no longer bother to add it to their charts…
In the years that Harry Potter outsold the Bible, it didn’t become any more or less true. The popularity of a work has little to do with its truthity or falsity.
No man is capable of creating a work that can reach into every culture and every age and be just as meaningful as it was to its original recipients.
I’ll name one: Principia Mathematica. Take away the Bible and you’d have a lot of sad folks. Take away calulus and Newtonian mechanics, you’d have lots of dead folks.
But when men are inspired by an all-knowing God- that’s exactly what we’d expect- and that’s exactly what we have.
An all-knowing, all-perfect God wouldn’t use singular human vessels as his medium, he’d beam the knowledge directly into our heads.
both A and C
a bunch of men
A
C
A.
A bunch of bored men.
AAAAAA
C
A. A bunch of random men who don’t know what they are talking about.
N. As in Norris. Chuck Norris.
C
I think C.
Men, with influence from mental instability or psychologic drugs.
C– Men who humbled themselves to be God’s instruments in the writing of it.
C… And of course God did a little writing himself with the ten commandments.
a.
@firetyger - C… And of course God did a little writing himself with the ten commandments.
Sure.
Because, until the early Hebrews got to the foot of Mount Sinai, they thought that stealing and adultery was okay. Following Mose’s descent, the Jews were shocked to discover murder actually immoral!
C
Of course C
men even if these men think they were talking for god from god… it was merely the thought of god in story form… from the opinion and viewpoint of men… at those times… stories… most likely meant to control and guilt trip others below them… it was a collection of stories told and retold like telephone then eventually written down in one language translated into another and edited many times over i do believe in god and in a higher power and believe many stories in it are based on truth but all the you should do this and dont do that and only do this… thats all a bunch of men from a time we can no longer relate to yes i think the bible condones slavery… i also think it condones beating your wife but i also believe you can read the bible for what it is worth and take much from it that isnt hey own a slave and beat your wife… you have to keep in mind that it was just written by a bunch of men from another time and life… and that you need to know how to distinguish between what is factual and what is inspirational and what is straight bullshit and all these people that read it as though each word is meant literally are lazy and stupid
oops i just realized i mixed my answers from both of these bible questions into one big answer… its early in the morning but yeah… thats my answer for both =)
i think is C.Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
C. The children’s chatachism (from the Westminster Confession of Faith) says, “Holy men, who were inspired by the Holy Spirit.”
a
A is for athiest!
C
C. Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
C – Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
C
A and C.
Men wrote the bible. After reading many of the texts, they left out many other texts because it did not agree with what they wanted to believe. This was a time where women were more or less slaves and the texts that showed women with an ounce of power were left out. This was a time when the poor were not granted the right to read and the church used this to their advantage. …synical much…yes I am…I am sure that they had the best interests of the people at heart….along with what they could get. There were so many other religious beliefs before the bible was created. Around the time that the bible was created, the growth of Christianity. The church began converting who they could, and those who would not convert, were put to death…IN THE NAME OF GOD… And what was really going on….the church was trying to take over the world. At least Europe. At least thats the way it looks to me. I mean, What is the easiest way to control people, by playing on their fear of death and the afterlife.And if you control fear, you control people.
@KuyaD - I must be out of the Chuck Norris loop. I know there are alot of jokes about him, mainly because my son keeps making jokes, but eventully i will figure it out…LOL
The answer is C. (2 Peter 1: 20, 21; 2 Timothy 3: 16, 17)
Choice C.
A.
A. They could have been inspired by a piece of toast for all I care, because then we’d have a religion based on Toastology. Being supposedly “inspired” by something does not change the fact that they were just random men doing random men things.
Human beings wrote the Bible.
a bunch of men.
A
I agree with C. You can see that they each wrote in their own style, but it was all inspired by God. I’m surprised to see so many people say that actually.
i believe C
C.
Id say at first it was a bunch of guys who threw a couple things together… then as the centuries passed guys who felt as though they were being “inspired” added onto it. I mean keep in mind a lot of the traditions we have today were a form of marketing to convert pagans and the way religion was shaped was based on attempts at controlling the masses. (Christmas, Easter etc.)
mmm definatly C.
All i have to say is if you think it was a bunch of things slapped together how do all of these books in the bible, whether written twenty years apart or hundreds of years apart relate to each other so well and tell some of the same events?
No “D” for all the above?
@huginn - I doubt that they thought those things were okay before Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the tablets. If I could guess at what God was thinking, he wanted his people to know that these ten commandments were just that – commands, not just things that good people do/don’t do, and so that is why he went through the trouble of creating the tablets himself.
C.
it’s kindof like a really REALLY loose idea of Jesus. Being fully God and fully Man, it’s really hard for us to understand Jesus. But the Bible was written physically by men through the inspiration of God, so it is also fully Godbreathed and fully man made.
“When Biblical canon was set, the disagreeing books were culled.”
Really? What books are you speaking of specifically? the gnostic gospels- all of which the earliest christians unanimously rejected as heresy? The Apocrypha? The Jews never even took those books seriously- some do contain history but they were never held as spiritual canon. The Catholics still use it though… I am not aware of any books that were discarded that were known to be canon among the early Christians- that’s not even what the councils such as the Council of Nicea were about. The canon of the NT must match the prophesy and revelation of the OT- if they disagree then they are false- and such is true with all the gnostic gospels- they all deny something that is key to the person of Christ and pose “hidden knowledge” and not the Lord Jesus Christ as the true means of salvation. The OT is very clear that the Messiah will save his people- not hidden knowledge.
“By “science,” I really hope you don’t mean young earth creationism. -_”
You Darwinists all to convieniently forget that for the fathers of nearly every discipline of science, the Bible was their beginning reference point and they were able to make astounding discoveries by taking God’s Word seriously. Galileo and Copernicus, Bacon, Boyle, to name just a small handful. To this day even modern scientists have been able to make accurate predictions and findings on the basis of Scripture- I’ll give you one you can look into personally on his research in astronomy- Dr. Russell Humphreys- his calculations on the formation of the giant gas body planets Uranus and Neptune have proven superior to secular calculations based on an evolutionary view of the universe’s origins. He also created a thoery on how it would be physically possible for the stars to be created on Day 4 according to Genesis 1 and be visible that very night. And he is one of many many many scientists who are doing effective study and research and such in the active fields of science today. Ever had an MRI or know someone who has? A creationist invented that technology….
One final thought worth taking into consideration- creationists and evolutionists have the same data, the same fossils, the intelligence and the same capability to perform in their fields. The difference is not the facts but the interpretation each comes to based on their preconceived ideas about the world around them. Suppose you find a fossil. The only objective part of your study of that fossil is actually just finding the fossil- the rest involves subjective interpretation.
“History will also show us that it is also a book worth killing for.”
Not in the sense that killing is actually promoted by the Bible. After all the 10 Commandments lists “Thou shalt not murder.” And Jesus took it a step further in the Sermon on the Mount and made it plain that hating someone is tantamount to murder. The OT speaks of the wars of the Jews entering their Promised Land- but the people living in Canaan at that time had well over 400 years to straighten up and fly right and quit their evil child sacrifices and other dispicable behaviors but they ignored the warnings. They had an additional 40 years while the Jews wandered around in the wilderness to consider leaving the area before the Jews invaded, but did they heed the warnings? No. So their blood is upon their own heads- they had their chance. But Israel as a nation and Christianity are not the same. God set up the nation of Israel in order to bring about the fulfillment of His promise to Abraham in Genesis 12 by bringing up the Messiah in their midst- and now that Christ has come and fulfilled the hundreds of prophesies about his life and ministry and death He has scrapped the old system of a political state and sent his followers into the world under the New Covenant in order to preach the Gospel message of salvation to the ends of the Earth. Now the only warfare Christians are to engage in for the name of Christ is a spiritual battle as described in Ephesians 6. We don’t have a physical war to engage in to bring this message to the nations- in deed, Christians often died in order to tell hostile peoples about Christ and were kind to their persecutors to the very end. This doesn’t mean that Christians aren’t allowed to join the army or anything- indeed Cornelius was a centurion in the Roman Army and there is no mention made of him having to give up his job in order to convert. But to fight for one’s country is not the same is fighting for a religious cause, now is it?
The Crusades, the witch hunts, the Inquisitions, and their like were not promoted in Scripture but by men wresting Scripture to achieve political ends. Pope Urban II was probably not a true Christian if he sent tens of thousands of rather ignorant Europeans down to retake (as in it was theirs to begin with- the Muslims took it over in their own bloody crusades during the 700s and 800s- and have never stopped shedding blood- look into the hundreds of years that the Moors of Spain did great evil and violence to Spanish Christendom- or how even as we speak African Muslims make a regular habit of capturing and torturing or even enslaving and killing African Christians- ask the Sudanese especially) Jerusalem and the Holy Lands and that all who went would have their sins forgiven- obvious heresy there. The Inquisitions and witch hunts were similarly spear-headed by power-hungry corrupt politicians who used their religious influence to do harm to others. The Bible was most obviously misrepresented to the masses (who at that time were not allowed to read the Bible for themselves in their own language- gotta love Catholic history). The Reformation- while itself was not a golden age- did help to reverse this ignorance as the Bible began to be translated and distributed among the common people. Had medeval Christians known the Scriptures for themselves they most likely would’ve opposed those heinous crimes of history…
Christians don’t need to worry about fighting for a physical kingdom on this Earth- our home is not here, we’re just here until we die. The true church was never confined to any one people group in the sense of a national identity although Christians have had a prominent role in the founding of our nation and the history of Europe.
“I’ll name one: Principia Mathematica. Take away the Bible and you’d have a lot of sad folks. Take away calulus and Newtonian mechanics, you’d have lots of dead folks.”
Actually you only all the more establish my point. Newton also used the Bible for his basis in his scientific and mathematical research. He understood the universe to be understandable in mathematical terms because math in itself is a language and language presumes intelligence and thus only an intelligent being could have constructed the universe in such a way as for it to make sense to us. You secular scientists have to illogically assume this point (that the universe should make sense) in order for you to even begin to conceive of the idea of performing scientific study. Why should the universe make sense in mathematical language if it was not indeed designed? You don’t get 747s from explosions in jet hangers. You don’t derive order from non order. An effect can never be greater than its cause (another Newtonian law- for every action the must be an equal and opposite reaction) therefore an intelligible universe could never come from something that was not itself intelligent- thus God. And Newton understood this from his belief in God’s Word- the Bible was his inspiration and thus the Bible is still superior to his research.
“An all-knowing, all-perfect God wouldn’t use singular human vessels as his medium, he’d beam the knowledge directly into our heads.”
In a way He has. But men, being born with a sinful nature “suppress the truth in unrighteousness.” Since the fall of Adam mankind has been enemies with God and are willingly ignorant of the truth until God reveals himself to their hearts. While God used men to write the Bible, that has not always been His only means of reaching people. I continue to hear of spontaneous conversions of individuals living in nations closed off to the Gospel. The Muslims take dreams very seriously and I’ve read more than one account of a devout Muslim going to bed at night and waking the next day a Christian because Christ came to them in their dream and revealed Himself to them. These Muslims have never read the Bible- in many of those countries the very possession of a Bible is grounds for capital punishment and conversion too. So yes, God does “beam knowledge directly into our heads.” That doesn’t make the Bible any less inspired because the Spirit of God will never tell anyone contrary to that which is written in the Bible- that is how Christians can test the spirits they hear in their conscience in order to determine if they are of Satan or of God.
A Yay for a story of fables and passed on tales.
For how old the bible is, I think it’s funny how literal some people take it. It wasn’t written in English in the first place, so obviously things will be lost in translation. Plus it’s like the game telephone, the more it’s passed on, the more the stories are changed or exaggerated. Then people try and back up their arguements with bible phrases as if it’s some line of unchanged, absolute truth.
I was aiming to ridicule the claim that the Bible is our source of “morality.” While the Bible does a good job at codifying morality and providing illustrative examples for it, it isn’t the source of it.
A
A bunch of men.
C for some parts
A for some parts
Men who were inspired by God to write the Bible.
C. nuff said…
A bunch of male-chauvenist gay men. And I mean gay as in homosexual, not gay as in bad. I think they were homosexual because of their views on women. They were so afraid of their sexuality that they took it out on the women. Catholocism is an excellent example. Women are not allowed in the clergy and are not supposed to hold any kind of position of power.
…I’ve just realized that this argument doesn’t make much sense. I lost my train of thought in the middle of my typing. I swear it made sense in my own mind.
@melaniem89 - Ugh. God love you (no pun intended).
I’ve actually met people who don’t believe that the bible is lost in translation. It’s so ignorant to think that, in my opinion. And it’s really arrogant to think that Christianity, or any religion for that matter, is the “right” religion.
Some parts of the Bible (history texts, for instance)- A. Some parts (such as prophetic books)- B. Other parts (such as epistles)- C.
What other Book was written over a 1,600-year period in three languages and over three continents with the assistance of over 40 surrendered hearts and minds, and yet has so powerfully survived?
We have only 5 to 10 copies of the writings from such men as Aristotle, Plato and Socrates–with a 1,000 to 1,500-year time gap between their original writings and the earliest copies we have. When was the last time you heard someone question their authenticity?
However, there are approximately 5,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, only 200 to 300 years older than the originals.
When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947, we found Hebrew mansucripts–40,000 fragments of almost every book in the Old Testament–dating back to 200 BC.
When compared to our modern manuscripts, scholars found absolutely no significant differences–only minor errors in spelling, grammar, etc., which was due to being copied by hand through the years. Impossible for such integrity to be preserved??
Want more?
There are 300 definable prophecies about the coming Messiah in the Bible. Jesus fulfilled 33 of them to the “T” on the day He was crucified.
Peter Stoner, in his book, Science Speaks, calculated the probability that any one person would just happen to fulfill these 8 prophecies by chance or coincidence. He found that the probability was one in ten to the seventeenth power!
Then, there’s what God said Himself:
“All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16
Has man tampered with the Bible over the years? Oh, yes. But when you look at all what human engineers have done with their free wills, God’s message of Salvation by grace through faith in Christ and all that pertains to securing it have remained gloriously intact.
So why so many disagreements and interpretations??
It’s not the Bible that is flawed, but us!
You see, God’s Word is like a diamond with many facets. How close we are to the diamond determines how many facets we see.
We are all in different positions around this stunning piece of Truth. It doesn’t move, but we do…and as we do–as we grow in Christ and in our relationships with the Church and our Christian family–our perspectives and understandings change; we see details in the facets that we did not see before.
The Word of God never changes…but we do as we behold, embrace, and mature in its truths!
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I’m with A. Certain parts of the bible were voted on so….there ya go.
A) A bunch of men who wanted to tell a good story
A. Men wrote the Bible. Heck it took a council of men to decide which writings would comprise the Bible, and there still isn’t agreement on that. There is a Catholic version and a non-Catholic version. So who is “right”? Many parts of the New Testament are really just letters written by someone (Paul, James, etc.) to a group of “Believers” (Church at Corinth, Ephesus, etc.) and hardly qualify as sacred scripture if you ask me. Makes for good classical literature reading, but hardly something that I can base my belief system upon. Too many contradictions and inconsistencies (yes, inconsistent. Take the four Gospels and read the accounts of the empty tomb. Four different stories. Completely different. Go figure.)
C. It is used by God to counsel and guide us.
C. YAY i answereded it =P
yeah i totally believe it was C…
we had to come from SOMEwhere….right?
The Council of Nicea decided on which books to include, but different men wrote their own versions of the events
C for shizz. Mans hands, Gods words & thoughts etc.. however loosely translated it may have become through all the bajillion versions and re-edits.
C.
I think men wrote it by inspiration from god and the holy spirit.
c
A nine year old named Gerald Bostock wrote the bible.
A. Definitely.
Definitely C.
A. cannot be right. How can you get “a bunch of men” to write a book that has no contradictions? Not even two people can agree on every little thing, much less forty. And blah blah blah, people say there are contradictions, but perhaps we all just need to do a little more research.
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shhhh! Don’t tell them Daniel Boone, we need to keep this our little secret-but I wrote the bible…one night when I couldn’t sleep.
second?
Men wrote in God’s inspiration, I think.
A.
C, man wrote it by inspiration from the Holy Spirit
Typo in C? Or Freudian slip?
I say C. Because Paul throws in his own opinions, which he admits to being his own opinions and not necessarily God’s, in the New Testament.
Some sailors went to C, C, C, to see what they could C C C, but all that they could C, C, C, was the bottom of the deep blue C, C, C!
(I would’ve just said C, but an impromptu song seemed more fun.)
Ha! ^^^^ I HATE when people tell me “First!!!!” on my site, but this is different; I don’t think I have ever been first on your site (nor do I try to be), but still–I impress me.
And I really DID write the Bible.
It was all an acid trip.
Definately C, men inspired through the Holy Spirit. 66 books written by 40 authors all under the divine inspiration of the paraclete.
A. A bunch of men.
A
c-for the most part.
Both A and C. Some books are historical accounts of events while others are Godly inspirations recorded by men.
D – Bible-Ninjas inspired by God
C – Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
Men wrote it by inspiration of God.
God told them exactly what to say
A
Martians from outer space.
E. Bible ninja pirates.
Also, +1 charisma to whoever said paraclete. I love that word.
J. – Nathan Christein wrote the bible.
REJOICE FOR HE IS RISEN!
Wait, he isn’t.
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A.
And C is a stupid answer, if God wanted it to be written he should have just done it himself so that it couldn’t be disputed. I mean, he should have known that that was coming, right?
c
A and C.
However, the Bible has been edited many times by HUMANS.
Recorded by men. Edited by men.
Hmm.. Does God even exist?
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C
a bunch of men.
c.
the men
A inspired by the notion that they can communicate with good.
A & C, like so many others have said.
of course is was number C…who else but the Holy Ghost inspired those great men…Smile
a & c
The answer is C. However nonbelievers would say A and stupid people would say B.
I personally think Chuck Norris wrote the Bible, he is all three isn’t he? (This is my poor excuse to a Chuck Norris reference lol.)
running out of questions to ask?
A and C
A. A bunch of Men
I like how people are answering as if their own response is supposed to be true for everyone else.
C.
the obvious answer!!!
A.
A. No contest.
@VaultESL - HA HA HA HA HA HA. Thanks for the laugh
I’d have to say A & C.
C
Mostly C.. but also A and B mixed together..
C. Si?
C.
Assuming you’re referring to the same scriptural canon as I am, C – men inspired by God.
2 Timothy 3:16 says that all scripture is inspired by God, so that’s what the Bible itself claims. Though a few parts, such as the 10 commandments, were actually, physically, written by God Himself.
None of the above. Or rather a combination of A and C. Some of it would have been “inspired by God”. Some of it is just accounts that were kept.
C, but I think some things may have gotten lost in translation….
C. Emphatically, C.
A
C
A
Men wrote the Bible. If it was under the direction/influence/guidance of a higher power none of us can know for certain or not.
I would say C. But I also believe that you can see the personalities of the individual writers in the parts they wrote. An example would be the differences in the Gospels. Each writer saw something a little different. The book of John for instance is very different from the other gospels. It’s a very intimate book about the loving, nurturing character of Christ because John was one of Jesus’ best friends here on the earth. That was only one example.
A
C…I would have put it in a song, but I lack the required creativity….
C.
C.
plus esther! she’s the only one that doesnt mention god right?
A
The right answer is (A) a bunch of men. Men loves to make up lies, I mean stories. The bible is biggest one of them all.
The bible contains the words of God, the words of man, the words of angels, and the words of satan.
C. Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
A.
Sea.
THE TRUTH:
C.
A.
a
C
Considering I just wrote an entry on this….I’d say a bunch of different men, who believed in God, but not completely inspired by God.
@whataboutbahb - That is the best response.
C. Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
Is this a trick question or a question from “Are you smarter than a 5th grader”?
I’m going with Charlie on this one.
I think I’ve learned C
C: men wrote it by inspiration from God.
C~~~~~
C
d. walt disney.
C… and thus B is indirectly true
C.
Only, men influenced by what they believed to be the Holy Spirit/God
C.
A
A and C
I would say that is was written by men with intention of showing the relationship their people and places had with God.
It had special purpose, but was written by men.
That does not make it less sacred to me.
I’d say A … but might say C depending how you interpret “inspired by” (ie. I will write a poem inspired by a flower… but that doesn’t mean that my poem is the flower’s word) … I don’t believe the whole Bible is inerrant, nor that it is all the Word of God — David’s Psalms were prayers TO God, not God’s word… many other arguments could follow, but I won’t blog your comments. (I won’t. I won’t. I won’t….!)
C
A
Most definitely C.
C.
Btw, I love your part at the Xanga party.
http://video.xanga.com/wherethefishlives/c8789789988/video.html
C
I believe The Holy Bible was once inspired by the Great Divine (God/Goddess), yet it was physically written by as well as translated over time by the hands of impefect men who had their own selfish agendas. That’s why I take everything that The Holy Bible says with a very large grain of salt. I don’t believe that The Holy Bible is the only spiritual text from which to gain spiritual wisdom. I also suppliment my studies with Gnostic texts such as The Pistis Sophia, The Nag Hammadi, and The Lost Books Of The Bible.
C
c
As a writer myself, I could always make the claim that I was inspired by God in everything I wrote. And who could dispute me? The answer’s A.
A.
A and C leaning a bit more towards C. But the churches always seem to cover everything up so who knows?
Since everything people do generally is a mixture of good and bad, I suppose A and C: written by a bunch of men, and by men inspired by God.
But questions like this always sound weird to me; always sound to be tied to that strange tribal deity who – though all-powerful – pokes definite instructions through the indefinite medium of badly recorded history, as though powerless go do better. Rather like an angry landlord shouting through a keyhole, because he can’t open the door.
@Roninism - Good point.
C
u’ll C.
A. A bunch of men.
and that’s my final answer.
I choose C
@whataboutbahb - Men wrote the Bible. If it was under the direction/influence/guidance of a higher power none of us can know for certain or not.
From what we know, we can grade a likilihood to the proposition.
D ..
A bunch of teens who wanted to drive the world insane with lost hopes so that the parents would then know what it feels like to be alone and lost and always begging for answers and help and needing solutions to make money instantly fall out of no where… .
And a few women, while their husbands were out hunting.
a.
C is what most Christians believe, in case you forgot. You should read Proverbs 29:2 if you get a chance.
I used to think C but now my mind is starting to question and think A
A.) The Bible is an anthology: A fine weaving of myth and superstitious bullshit.
The claims of the Bible are no more distinguished than the holy book of any other religion. Yes: There is a factual basis to the Bible. Like any other old religion, stories and claims are made in historical context.
I can show that there is an actual, historical, Troy, but that doesn’t fucking well mean that The Iliad is true, right?
A. But of course that’s my answer.
People wrote it.
If God is really this wise, powerful being, why didn’t he beam the content of the Bibles into our heads? Or have us born with the knowledge of the Bible?
Instead, God, in all his greatness, handicapped himself with a doubtable and flawed medium. The same medium partaken by his competitors: Allah, Buddha, and Harry Potter.
Religious Multiple Choice? I suppose C…
C … 40 different authors from many different walks of life under divine inspiration, spanning a 1500 year period and all basically saying the same thing: man has sinned; no man can save himself from his sin; God so loved man (even while a sinner) that He would send a Savior … all foolishness to the natural man.
mmmm, A
C. Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
@Soultender - 40 different authors from many different walks of life under divine inspiration, spanning a 1500 year period and all basically saying the same thing
That’s only because a central authoriy collected, edited, and put together the Bible.
i believe it was Men guided by the Holy Ghost and God
@they_callmefaith - Like how the archangel Gabriel, one sunny afternoon, visited Mohammad ? Or how Joseph Smith found a bunca golden tablets?
i’d go with option C.
The bible is the word of God.
B
@huginn - i am LDS thank-You very much. yes i believe Joesph Smith by the Power of God translated the Gold Tablets that Moroni burried.
C.
but, little do many know is that the catholics…seasoned the Bible with some things, in order to convert pagans….so partly A as well.
@they_callmefaith - Sorry for my persumption!
And the Jewish Native American bit, too?
C… yet, the books weren’t settled upon until 382 AD @ the council of Rome. There were many versions then a Freemason by the name of King James had monks do some retranslating and came up with an “Authorized Version”. Language is always changing and evolving, and words that mean one thing in one century mean another thing in the next century. Perhaps that is why NIV and NASB have updated their versions recently as well.
@huginn - yes there is Jewish concepts in the Book of Mormon and We believe that the Native Americans are Decendants of out Mormon forefathers
@huginn - You dig conspiracy theories, right?
C?
@they_callmefaith - The thing is that there ougth to have been genetic traces of such a decendence in modern Native American tribes. So far, none has been found.
That aside. I’m sad you guys can’t drink coffee.
Al Gore invented the Bible.
I’m sure everyone involved THOUGHT they were being divinely inspired. I’m sure the people who wrote the Bible were Jewish and Christians themselves and not just nasty scientologists hoping to profit off of the spiritual hopes of the masses. But yes, I do believe there was a bit of delusion involved.
-David
i don’t think it matters – it is what it is… it’s the bible and you’ll never convince some people of its significance and you’ll never get others to not believe in its holiness…
@Soultender - Actually, not so much.
I’m an empirist first. My skeptisim is towards elaborate explainations when simple ones suffice. So I’m not too hot on grassy knolls. =P
I do like debating conspiracy theroies, though. =)
A. A bunch of men.
c
Definitely C
Men wrote it by inspiration from God. However if the Message which was revealed by God to a Prophet has not reached us exactly as it was delivered, but has been misreported and altered, then to that extent that religion may be regarded as having deviated from truth.
Definitely A. Please tally this up…I’d love to see the numbers!
i like this question because it shows how many christians like to use bad puns, and how many non-believers are jerks. i would fall into the later category, saying, “A!” with my fellow jerks.
and just to be fair, some christians are jerks too.
D. None of the Above
@huginn - i really enjoy how much trouble your comments stir up, even when it’s with me.
C- which only speaks all the more to its solidarity when one looks at the vast amount of time that spanned the writing of the two testaments. most of the writers never met each other. yet all 66 books are in tune with one another and shed light on one another as though they were written by one author. i have heard it quipped and i heartily agree: “the OT is the NT concealed and the NT is the OT revealed.”
Furthermore, the Scriptures themselves say, “Scripture cannot be broken.” and indeed it has never yet and never will as more and more archaeology, science and history continues to be unraveled and the accounts of the Bible are proven to be so perfectly accurate. It is the most accurate document known to man and it has literally changed the world- wherever it goes it brings freedom and enlightenment- and you can ask those in South America, Asia and the Middle East- it is a book worth dying for- and many to this day DO die for simply having it in their possession. Don’t believe me? go to persecution.com or Voice of the Martyrs and see for yourself. The very form of English we speak, most of the great writers of the English language which we cherish as literary giants- derived their literary genius from the English Bible- without which even Shakespeare would be a nothing inspite of all his creativity-as his wording is derived from the style that Tyndale imparted to his translations by using the Greek and Hebrew instead of the Latin. No other document is so frequently quoted in other works- indeed it is well justified to add a course to literature that serves to help sutdents understand and identify the biblical analogies and references that we find throughout Euro-American literature- and there are such courses in public schools today.
The Bible remains the best-selling book of all time- so much so that booksellers no longer bother to add it to their charts- there must obviously be something to such a book that has garnered such respect from every corner of the globe in every language into which it is translated- that evil men work so hard to suppress to their own folly.
To say such an impactful and singular work as the Bible is merely the work of men is a gross lie and misrepresentation. No man is capable of creating a work that can reach into every culture and every age and be just as meaningful as it was to its original recipients. But when men are inspired by an all-knowing God- that’s exactly what we’d expect- and that’s exactly what we have.
@PreciousOnyx - …most of the writers never met each other. yet all 66 books are in tune with one another and shed light on one another as though they were written by one author…
When Biblical canon was set, the disagreeing books were culled.
..science and history continues to be unraveled and the accounts of the Bible are proven to be so perfectly accurate…
By “science,” I really hope you don’t mean young earth creationism. -_-
…it is a book worth dying for- and many to this day DO die for simply having it in their possession. Don’t believe me? go to persecution.com or Voice of the Martyrs and see for yourself…
History will also show us that it is also a book worth killing for.
The very form of English we speak, most of the great writers of the English language which we cherish as literary giants- derived their literary genius from the English Bible- without which even Shakespeare would be a nothing inspite of all his creativity..
I would dispute the particular authors cited. But I don’t think anyone can argue against the idea of religious inspiration in the the arts. The Bible itself, though, doesn’t have to be true for it to be inspirational.
The Bible remains the best-selling book of all time- so much so that booksellers no longer bother to add it to their charts…
In the years that Harry Potter outsold the Bible, it didn’t become any more or less true. The popularity of a work has little to do with its truthity or falsity.
No man is capable of creating a work that can reach into every culture and every age and be just as meaningful as it was to its original recipients.
I’ll name one: Principia Mathematica. Take away the Bible and you’d have a lot of sad folks. Take away calulus and Newtonian mechanics, you’d have lots of dead folks.
But when men are inspired by an all-knowing God- that’s exactly what we’d expect- and that’s exactly what we have.
An all-knowing, all-perfect God wouldn’t use singular human vessels as his medium, he’d beam the knowledge directly into our heads.
both A and C
a bunch of men
A
C
A.
A bunch of bored men.
AAAAAA
C
A. A bunch of random men who don’t know what they are talking about.
N. As in Norris. Chuck Norris.
C
I think C.
Men, with influence from mental instability or psychologic drugs.
C– Men who humbled themselves to be God’s instruments in the writing of it.
C… And of course God did a little writing himself with the ten commandments.
a.
@firetyger - C… And of course God did a little writing himself with the ten commandments.
Sure.
Because, until the early Hebrews got to the foot of Mount Sinai, they thought that stealing and adultery was okay. Following Mose’s descent, the Jews were shocked to discover murder actually immoral!
C
Of course C
men
even if these men think they were talking for god from god… it was merely the thought of god in story form… from the opinion and viewpoint of men… at those times… stories… most likely meant to control and guilt trip others below them…
it was a collection of stories told and retold like telephone then eventually written down in one language translated into another and edited many times over
i do believe in god and in a higher power and believe many stories in it are based on truth
but all the you should do this and dont do that and only do this… thats all a bunch of men from a time we can no longer relate to
yes i think the bible condones slavery… i also think it condones beating your wife
but i also believe you can read the bible for what it is worth and take much from it that isnt hey own a slave and beat your wife… you have to keep in mind that it was just written by a bunch of men from another time and life… and that you need to know how to distinguish between what is factual and what is inspirational and what is straight bullshit
and all these people that read it as though each word is meant literally are lazy and stupid
oops i just realized i mixed my answers from both of these bible questions into one big answer… its early in the morning but yeah… thats my answer for both =)
@MisterMagnificent -
i think is C.Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
C. The children’s chatachism (from the Westminster Confession of Faith) says, “Holy men, who were inspired by the Holy Spirit.”
a
A is for athiest!
C
C. Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
C – Men wrote it by inspiration from God.
C
A and C.
Men wrote the bible. After reading many of the texts, they left out many other texts because it did not agree with what they wanted to believe. This was a time where women were more or less slaves and the texts that showed women with an ounce of power were left out. This was a time when the poor were not granted the right to read and the church used this to their advantage. …synical much…yes I am…I am sure that they had the best interests of the people at heart….along with what they could get. There were so many other religious beliefs before the bible was created. Around the time that the bible was created, the growth of Christianity. The church began converting who they could, and those who would not convert, were put to death…IN THE NAME OF GOD… And what was really going on….the church was trying to take over the world. At least Europe. At least thats the way it looks to me. I mean, What is the easiest way to control people, by playing on their fear of death and the afterlife.And if you control fear, you control people.
@KuyaD - I must be out of the Chuck Norris loop. I know there are alot of jokes about him, mainly because my son keeps making jokes, but eventully i will figure it out…LOL
The answer is C. (2 Peter 1: 20, 21; 2 Timothy 3: 16, 17)
Choice C.
A.
A. They could have been inspired by a piece of toast for all I care, because then we’d have a religion based on Toastology. Being supposedly “inspired” by something does not change the fact that they were just random men doing random men things.
Human beings wrote the Bible.
a bunch of men.
A
I agree with C. You can see that they each wrote in their own style, but it was all inspired by God. I’m surprised to see so many people say that actually.
i believe C
C.
Id say at first it was a bunch of guys who threw a couple things together… then as the centuries passed guys who felt as though they were being “inspired” added onto it. I mean keep in mind a lot of the traditions we have today were a form of marketing to convert pagans and the way religion was shaped was based on attempts at controlling the masses. (Christmas, Easter etc.)
mmm definatly C.
All i have to say is if you think it was a bunch of things slapped together how do all of these books in the bible, whether written twenty years apart or hundreds of years apart relate to each other so well and tell some of the same events?
No “D” for all the above?
@huginn - I doubt that they thought those things were okay before Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the tablets. If I could guess at what God was thinking, he wanted his people to know that these ten commandments were just that – commands, not just things that good people do/don’t do, and so that is why he went through the trouble of creating the tablets himself.
C.
it’s kindof like a really REALLY loose idea of Jesus. Being fully God and fully Man, it’s really hard for us to understand Jesus. But the Bible was written physically by men through the inspiration of God, so it is also fully Godbreathed and fully man made.
@huginn -
“When Biblical canon was set, the disagreeing books were culled.”
Really? What books are you speaking of specifically? the gnostic gospels- all of which the earliest christians unanimously rejected as heresy? The Apocrypha? The Jews never even took those books seriously- some do contain history but they were never held as spiritual canon. The Catholics still use it though… I am not aware of any books that were discarded that were known to be canon among the early Christians- that’s not even what the councils such as the Council of Nicea were about. The canon of the NT must match the prophesy and revelation of the OT- if they disagree then they are false- and such is true with all the gnostic gospels- they all deny something that is key to the person of Christ and pose “hidden knowledge” and not the Lord Jesus Christ as the true means of salvation. The OT is very clear that the Messiah will save his people- not hidden knowledge.
“By “science,” I really hope you don’t mean young earth creationism. -_”
You Darwinists all to convieniently forget that for the fathers of nearly every discipline of science, the Bible was their beginning reference point and they were able to make astounding discoveries by taking God’s Word seriously. Galileo and Copernicus, Bacon, Boyle, to name just a small handful. To this day even modern scientists have been able to make accurate predictions and findings on the basis of Scripture- I’ll give you one you can look into personally on his research in astronomy- Dr. Russell Humphreys- his calculations on the formation of the giant gas body planets Uranus and Neptune have proven superior to secular calculations based on an evolutionary view of the universe’s origins. He also created a thoery on how it would be physically possible for the stars to be created on Day 4 according to Genesis 1 and be visible that very night. And he is one of many many many scientists who are doing effective study and research and such in the active fields of science today. Ever had an MRI or know someone who has? A creationist invented that technology….
One final thought worth taking into consideration- creationists and evolutionists have the same data, the same fossils, the intelligence and the same capability to perform in their fields. The difference is not the facts but the interpretation each comes to based on their preconceived ideas about the world around them. Suppose you find a fossil. The only objective part of your study of that fossil is actually just finding the fossil- the rest involves subjective interpretation.
“History will also show us that it is also a book worth killing for.”
Not in the sense that killing is actually promoted by the Bible. After all the 10 Commandments lists “Thou shalt not murder.” And Jesus took it a step further in the Sermon on the Mount and made it plain that hating someone is tantamount to murder. The OT speaks of the wars of the Jews entering their Promised Land- but the people living in Canaan at that time had well over 400 years to straighten up and fly right and quit their evil child sacrifices and other dispicable behaviors but they ignored the warnings. They had an additional 40 years while the Jews wandered around in the wilderness to consider leaving the area before the Jews invaded, but did they heed the warnings? No. So their blood is upon their own heads- they had their chance. But Israel as a nation and Christianity are not the same. God set up the nation of Israel in order to bring about the fulfillment of His promise to Abraham in Genesis 12 by bringing up the Messiah in their midst- and now that Christ has come and fulfilled the hundreds of prophesies about his life and ministry and death He has scrapped the old system of a political state and sent his followers into the world under the New Covenant in order to preach the Gospel message of salvation to the ends of the Earth. Now the only warfare Christians are to engage in for the name of Christ is a spiritual battle as described in Ephesians 6. We don’t have a physical war to engage in to bring this message to the nations- in deed, Christians often died in order to tell hostile peoples about Christ and were kind to their persecutors to the very end. This doesn’t mean that Christians aren’t allowed to join the army or anything- indeed Cornelius was a centurion in the Roman Army and there is no mention made of him having to give up his job in order to convert. But to fight for one’s country is not the same is fighting for a religious cause, now is it?
The Crusades, the witch hunts, the Inquisitions, and their like were not promoted in Scripture but by men wresting Scripture to achieve political ends. Pope Urban II was probably not a true Christian if he sent tens of thousands of rather ignorant Europeans down to retake (as in it was theirs to begin with- the Muslims took it over in their own bloody crusades during the 700s and 800s- and have never stopped shedding blood- look into the hundreds of years that the Moors of Spain did great evil and violence to Spanish Christendom- or how even as we speak African Muslims make a regular habit of capturing and torturing or even enslaving and killing African Christians- ask the Sudanese especially) Jerusalem and the Holy Lands and that all who went would have their sins forgiven- obvious heresy there. The Inquisitions and witch hunts were similarly spear-headed by power-hungry corrupt politicians who used their religious influence to do harm to others. The Bible was most obviously misrepresented to the masses (who at that time were not allowed to read the Bible for themselves in their own language- gotta love Catholic history). The Reformation- while itself was not a golden age- did help to reverse this ignorance as the Bible began to be translated and distributed among the common people. Had medeval Christians known the Scriptures for themselves they most likely would’ve opposed those heinous crimes of history…
Christians don’t need to worry about fighting for a physical kingdom on this Earth- our home is not here, we’re just here until we die. The true church was never confined to any one people group in the sense of a national identity although Christians have had a prominent role in the founding of our nation and the history of Europe.
“I’ll name one: Principia Mathematica. Take away the Bible and you’d have a lot of sad folks. Take away calulus and Newtonian mechanics, you’d have lots of dead folks.”
Actually you only all the more establish my point. Newton also used the Bible for his basis in his scientific and mathematical research. He understood the universe to be understandable in mathematical terms because math in itself is a language and language presumes intelligence and thus only an intelligent being could have constructed the universe in such a way as for it to make sense to us. You secular scientists have to illogically assume this point (that the universe should make sense) in order for you to even begin to conceive of the idea of performing scientific study. Why should the universe make sense in mathematical language if it was not indeed designed? You don’t get 747s from explosions in jet hangers. You don’t derive order from non order. An effect can never be greater than its cause (another Newtonian law- for every action the must be an equal and opposite reaction) therefore an intelligible universe could never come from something that was not itself intelligent- thus God. And Newton understood this from his belief in God’s Word- the Bible was his inspiration and thus the Bible is still superior to his research.
“An all-knowing, all-perfect God wouldn’t use singular human vessels as his medium, he’d beam the knowledge directly into our heads.”
In a way He has. But men, being born with a sinful nature “suppress the truth in unrighteousness.” Since the fall of Adam mankind has been enemies with God and are willingly ignorant of the truth until God reveals himself to their hearts. While God used men to write the Bible, that has not always been His only means of reaching people. I continue to hear of spontaneous conversions of individuals living in nations closed off to the Gospel. The Muslims take dreams very seriously and I’ve read more than one account of a devout Muslim going to bed at night and waking the next day a Christian because Christ came to them in their dream and revealed Himself to them. These Muslims have never read the Bible- in many of those countries the very possession of a Bible is grounds for capital punishment and conversion too. So yes, God does “beam knowledge directly into our heads.” That doesn’t make the Bible any less inspired because the Spirit of God will never tell anyone contrary to that which is written in the Bible- that is how Christians can test the spirits they hear in their conscience in order to determine if they are of Satan or of God.
A
Yay for a story of fables and passed on tales.
For how old the bible is, I think it’s funny how literal some people take it. It wasn’t written in English in the first place, so obviously things will be lost in translation. Plus it’s like the game telephone, the more it’s passed on, the more the stories are changed or exaggerated. Then people try and back up their arguements with bible phrases as if it’s some line of unchanged, absolute truth.
@firetyger - Ha, probably not. =)
I was aiming to ridicule the claim that the Bible is our source of “morality.” While the Bible does a good job at codifying morality and providing illustrative examples for it, it isn’t the source of it.
A
A bunch of men.
C for some parts
A for some parts
Men who were inspired by God to write the Bible.
C. nuff said…
A bunch of male-chauvenist gay men. And I mean gay as in homosexual, not gay as in bad.
I think they were homosexual because of their views on women. They were so afraid of their sexuality that they took it out on the women. Catholocism is an excellent example. Women are not allowed in the clergy and are not supposed to hold any kind of position of power.
…I’ve just realized that this argument doesn’t make much sense. I lost my train of thought in the middle of my typing. I swear it made sense in my own mind.
@melaniem89 - Ugh. God love you (no pun intended).
I’ve actually met people who don’t believe that the bible is lost in translation. It’s so ignorant to think that, in my opinion. And it’s really arrogant to think that Christianity, or any religion for that matter, is the “right” religion.
Some parts of the Bible (history texts, for instance)- A. Some parts (such as prophetic books)- B. Other parts (such as epistles)- C.
What other Book was written over a 1,600-year period in three languages and over three continents with the assistance of over 40 surrendered hearts and minds, and yet has so powerfully survived?
We have only 5 to 10 copies of the writings from such men as Aristotle, Plato and Socrates–with a 1,000 to 1,500-year time gap between their original writings and the earliest copies we have. When was the last time you heard someone question their authenticity?
However, there are approximately 5,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, only 200 to 300 years older than the originals.
When the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947, we found Hebrew mansucripts–40,000 fragments of almost every book in the Old Testament–dating back to 200 BC.
When compared to our modern manuscripts, scholars found absolutely no significant differences–only minor errors in spelling, grammar, etc., which was due to being copied by hand through the years. Impossible for such integrity to be preserved??
Want more?
There are 300 definable prophecies about the coming Messiah in the Bible. Jesus fulfilled 33 of them to the “T” on the day He was crucified.
Peter Stoner, in his book, Science Speaks, calculated the probability that any one person would just happen to fulfill these 8 prophecies by chance or coincidence. He found that the probability was one in ten to the seventeenth power!
Then, there’s what God said Himself:
“All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” 2 Timothy 3:16
Has man tampered with the Bible over the years? Oh, yes. But when you look at all what human engineers have done with their free wills, God’s message of Salvation by grace through faith in Christ and all that pertains to securing it have remained gloriously intact.
So why so many disagreements and interpretations??
It’s not the Bible that is flawed, but us!
You see, God’s Word is like a diamond with many facets. How close we are to the diamond determines how many facets we see.
We are all in different positions around this stunning piece of Truth. It doesn’t move, but we do…and as we do–as we grow in Christ and in our relationships with the Church and our Christian family–our perspectives and understandings change; we see details in the facets that we did not see before.
The Word of God never changes…but we do as we behold, embrace, and mature in its truths!
A
I’m with A. Certain parts of the bible were voted on so….there ya go.
A) A bunch of men who wanted to tell a good story
A. Men wrote the Bible. Heck it took a council of men to decide which writings would comprise the Bible, and there still isn’t agreement on that. There is a Catholic version and a non-Catholic version. So who is “right”? Many parts of the New Testament are really just letters written by someone (Paul, James, etc.) to a group of “Believers” (Church at Corinth, Ephesus, etc.) and hardly qualify as sacred scripture if you ask me. Makes for good classical literature reading, but hardly something that I can base my belief system upon. Too many contradictions and inconsistencies (yes, inconsistent. Take the four Gospels and read the accounts of the empty tomb. Four different stories. Completely different. Go figure.)
C. It is used by God to counsel and guide us.
C. YAY i answereded it =P
yeah i totally believe it was C…
we had to come from SOMEwhere….right?
The Council of Nicea decided on which books to include, but different men wrote their own versions of the events
C for shizz. Mans hands, Gods words & thoughts etc.. however loosely translated it may have become through all the bajillion versions and re-edits.
C.
I think men wrote it by inspiration from god and the holy spirit.
c
A nine year old named Gerald Bostock wrote the bible.
A. Definitely.
Definitely C.
A. cannot be right. How can you get “a bunch of men” to write a book that has no contradictions? Not even two people can agree on every little thing, much less forty. And blah blah blah, people say there are contradictions, but perhaps we all just need to do a little more research.