July 15, 2008

  • Dildo and Selfishness

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    Here we go:

    I received a message tonight from a woman who told me she was unsubscribing to my site.  She was pleasant about it and mentioned a few issues she had with my content.

    One thing she mentioned was that I posted a dildo on my site with condoms.  I told her that I didn’t think that the posting of the dildo with condoms was antichristian.  (In fact, a dildo with condoms teaches abstinence and safe abstinence at the same time).

    She responded to my message with another messaged that included this comment:

    “The dildo is a form in many young womens life a way of self pleasure, I see it as selfish.”

    Is the use of a dildo selfish?

                                                      

Comments (173)

  • I don’t think it’s selfish, but I’ve been called selfish before.  

  • Not if you share with your girlfriends.

  • No, because it’s not choosing yourself over another person. It’s pleasuring yourself when you don’t have another person. Not using it would be suffering. 

  • No way. Sometimes a woman has needs. They can’t just use their hands to do it the way men do.

  • Not tonight dear, I have a headache…..

  • no, men play
    why can’t we play?

  • Selfish? o_0 I don’t get it. I admit.

  • @XINERGY - Now now, there are plenty of boys who would love to share, too.

  • It’s as selfish as having your period.
    Think of all those eggs teenage girls have wasted by not being pregnant!

  • ***ROLLS EYES*** Man Dan, the stuff you get yourself into. You do push the envelope pretty far bud even if you think it’s harmless.

  • it is selfish. you take all the pleasure for yourself and dont share it with the man. plus it’s like peeking at the gift of sex if you’re waiting til marriage to lose your virginity. that’s what the bible would try to impress upon its readers…

  • Fuck…I’m going to hell. 

  • if you are in a relationship and you choose to deny your husbands needs/requests for fulfillment and would rather fulfill yourself, then it is very selfish. on the other hand if you use masturbation as a form of release to help in abstinance, or as a form of foreplay in a monogomous relationship i see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

  • Ha, if using a dildo is selfish, so’s jacking off.

  • AHAHA! Well I personally own a couple, my husband knows and neither of us feel it’s a selfish thing. A lot of women own them. I’m pretty sure lots of military spouses such as myself own them because we spend long periods of time without our husbands. It’s hardly selfish. And if it DOES make me selfish, the person who says I am can bite me. ;)

  • @retired_at_21 - But, but, but…. Who’s gonna stand behind the camera?  Who’s gonna hold the boom mic?

  • lol theo, u seriously need to stop asking questions we all know the answer to. obviously that girl was crazy.

  • You know the majority of what we ALL do is selfish. I’m sure this lady is selfish with things of her own. Heck, if you feed yourself you are selfish.You are taking care of yourself

  • Only if you don’t share it with a friend!

  • @College_Ruled11X85 - For someone who sounds pretty religious, you sure do use a provocative profile picture.  Hmmm….

  • Selfish for who?  Her husband?  I am not sure what she is saying exactly.

  • I throw dildos from my dildo float at all local parades.

  • I don’t really see why it would be selfish, especially if you’re abstinent, since then nobody would be sharing in your pleasure anyway.  The way I see it, if you want to pleasure yourself, you’ll find a way to do it, dildo or no dildo.  In a way I guess the woman is saying masturbation is selfish, but I find that occasionally rubbing one out when the mood strikes makes me happy, which in turn makes me more likely to be kind to others.

  • only if she shoves it up her arse !

  • No, but I may be biased ^_^

  • @wherethefishlives - Sharing.  Sharing is good.

  • @XINERGY - lol, oh we’ll get robots for that. 

  • Wow, if I am not supposed to have sex with someone other than my spouse, and I am not married, what am I supposed to do just sit around and be horny all the time.  If you don’t get out those urges in some way you are going to end up having sex…more christians should buy their baby girls dildo’s

  • @XINERGY - *sigh* I guess it’s time to invest in a tripod.  And the homeless guy from the overpass will have to rig the sound.

  • @wherethefishlives - where are you and when is the next parade?

  • @XINERGY - right.  what about a double sided one?

  • @wherethefishlives - That is a good idea. You see, I’ve only been throwing sex shop flyers. But you’ve got the real deal there.

  • Not selfish at all unless you are choosing it over the person you love.

  • All form of solo self pleasure is selfish – it’s supposed to be a team activity! You’re just denying your spouse the fun if you do it yourself. And if you’re not married you shouldn’t be having that fun anyway. I know I’m going to get attacked for that one!!!

  • Selfish or lustful? There’s a heavy mental and emotional component to sex. It seems like shakey ground to me. If its use violates someone’s conscience they should avoid it – otherwise it seems like meat sacrificed to idols.

  • I see where she felt uncomfortable with the posting of that picture. No one’s going to walk around in public flaunting a thing like that, let alone the length of three coke cans.

    And she was focused mainly on protecting young women who are more impressionable, not necessarily older women or those who are already married and have experienced sex. There are definitely religious aspects and virtues tied with sex, so it’s not always something to be taken lightly.

    So by asking the question, “Is it selfish?” rather than asking the community about her reaction as a whole, your presupposition is that everyone already agrees with you.

  • In order for an act to be considered selfish, its pursual must incure some sort of a cost to others.

    Many of our acts are completely independent to the well being of others. I have a wicked collection of math and engineering textbooks. I do this for myself. This hobby of mine cannot be selfish because no one’s else well being is adversely effected by it.

    Likewise, a woman’s owning or use of a dildo effects no one else. It’s not in and of itself selfish.

  • Oh yes…I’m horrible for masturbating.  Can’t believe myself sometimes.  Using self pleasure as a method to relieve sexual tension and frustration…even going so far as using a dildo makes me completely morally bankrupt.  Especially if I use it as a method to keep myself from having sex.  You’re right…I should just go out and fuck random strangers to satisfy my high libido.  Either that or just sit and twiddle my thumbs getting pissy at people because I want something in my vag or ass. 

    I realize that most people would respond to this with “self control” advice.  But you know what?  I suck at self control.  For me personally, masturbation is a safe way to get out my sexual energy.  Yes I use…dildo type objects…but I don’t see how it’s wrong.

    As for selfish…every fucking thing we do as humans is selfish.  Altruism is a nice concept but really a load of bullshit.  We are all using each other for validation or money or sex or whatever.  Why do we do good things?  Because it makes us feel good.  Why do I masturbate?  Because it makes me feel good.  Suck it up and leave me and my dildo alone.

  • I am sick of Christianity’s abstinence clause.  We are animals, built to have sex, and to deny that impulse or ignore it, turns you little Christians into smarmy hypocrites and perverts.  You can pretend it doesn’t exist and feel guilty that your body needs it and hide behind your sin, or you can meet some person who you are ill-fit to marry because you are so hungry to have sex then divorce a few years later.  Nevermind the Catholic priests who aren’t getting laid and have to molest kids to satisfiy their needs, or the Evangelical leaders Ted Haggard, Earl Paulk, Jimmy Swagart, Marvin Gorman, Frank Houston, John Paulk, Douglas Goodman,Coy Privette, Joe Barron, etc.  Grow up a little and be honest with yourselves.

  • @logicalemu - YES.  Exactly, thank you.

  • Umm…no? What you do in your bed alone at night is your business. Most people, probably including the women that sent you that, would decline if you offered to share it with them. Therefore, how is it selfish?

  • I received a message tonight from a woman who told me she was unsubscribing to my site.  She was pleasant about it and mentioned a few issues she had with my content.

    You know what, Dan? The very act of this messaging is selfish. If she wants off your site, the mere act of unsuscribing is enough. There is no need for her to message you and to point out this fact.

    Nothing is gained from her end– she’s unsuscribing. On the other hand, she must realize that the act is hurtful. Informing you of her leaving can’t be, in any way, positive. She is handing out a condemnation of the site and its contents when doing so– has no real world impacts.

    She wanted to be noticed, and she was selfish for it.

  • using a dildo to pleasure yourself instead of pleasuring someone else.. yeah, i guess that is selfish. you might as well not feed yourself if you get hungry because that is selfish – you should be giving others food, right?!

    ridiculous.

  • i dont think its selfish…many a guy would love to watch a girl play with her dildo, or play along with them. just because you own a dildo doesn’t mean its always for one persons use, the couple could use it…

  • I don’t see how it is selfish.

  • selfish? would she rather young girls be offering their sex toanyone who wants it? would that be the polite, giving thing to do? It might be selfish if, say, some girl just got married and on their wedding night she said “Oh, no that’s fine. I don’t really need you here for this.” Then whips out her dildo.

  • Is self pleasuring selfish?  Maybe.  Is a dildo only used to self pleasure?  No.

  • no. …some people should just look at it as….either make yourself happy or wait and waste time for that happiness.

  • I dont think it is. I mean, so to be unselfish one should go out and have meaningless sex inorder to not be selfish. Sounds like a stupid reason to be selfish.

    Xo

  • selfish I’m not so sure. Anti-christian, maybe not the picture, but the use of one yes

  • @droptop11 - she already has a stick up her ass. I don’t think she could fit a dildo as well …

  • @droptop11 - Damn rights…up the ass is always more fun

  • @ddearcaroline - you may be surprised !

  • Even if she found it that way, why would she unsubscribe to you?

    The use of a Dildo, to me, isn’t selfish. Like you can use a dildo while have sex, and besides guys like to see girls use a dildo. So they are giving joy to people which doesn’t make it selfish. If there isn’t a guy present, then it is just practice for when you have a guy/ or girl.
    Also pleasuring yourself, is self loving, not selfishness. Not enjoying the joys God gave you is Selfishness and stupidity.
                    -jisatsu自殺

  • Where do people come up with these ideas? Never would have thought such a thing up on my own, lol.

  • She was a nutty prude.

    Its not selfish, and furthermore, whats wrong with focusing on yourself at times?

  • You have had better reasons for a Christian to unsub than the dildo…
    that is a LAME excuse.

  • i s’pose it is if you ain’t givin’ yo man any! mmhmm

    8P

  • better than one night stand and STDs.

  • @huginn - haha! My thoughts exactly, bro. 

  • has to be a magnum, for sure.  cos that’s how they roll/

  • Well if it is, then call me selfish! LOL

  • What would somebody think when they know someone has a dildo?
    Well, It is normal. But if a man has it? 

  • Almost all women have long fingernails. What do you think? It is very painful.

  • Something like that thing must be cleaned before using and must not be shared to someone else. It is a personal thing for pleasure.

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  • Hm…is using dildo a sign of abstinence? I mean, you are still…you know…not that I care…you guys tell me :)

  • I don’t understand people.  Seriously?  Selfish?  

    People are driven to be sexual.  It is often very difficult to find a loving, caring, worthy mate.  We are sexual creatures, EVEN WOMEN.  It’s not just a male thing to be sexual & having a need to masturbate.  Having a dildo and using it (frequently) is so not a big deal.  Selfish? Please.  Masturbating is NOT selfish, it’s a need. 

  • Some of your subscribers are waaaay too sheltered, Dan.

  • I’m laughing way too hard at this question. Way too hard.

  • ahh get a life. it’s not selfish. it’s practical. 

  • i must be pretty selfish then.. or is it selfish if hubby is the one operating it most if not all the time lol…

  • There are times that it pays to be selfish. I dunno if using a dildo is selfish; perverse, maybe, but not selfish.

  • Selfish as in not sharing?

  • HA!!

    No. 

    I’m sorry, but what a freaking idiot.  Kindly mail her a dildo.

  • @huginn - Yes, well said!

  • Dildos rock. And roll. And vibrate. So yes, they are selfish. In a cool, orgasmic kinda way. People need to lighten up.

  • @lotta_valdez - I like that idea!

  • @wxcruiser - perhaps we can hold some sort of Xanga dildo drive?  This woman needs our help!

  • no more than the rest of our immature, self absorbed, socialist society we currently call the US

  • lmao thanks for a god laugh, er, interesting typo…

    Using a dildo is not selfish in any way and I’m not sure how it could be perceived as so although I’d be *very* interested i knowing how she could possibly have come to that conclusion. It seems a bit deluded.

  • Yes, think of all those poor young men out there who are so much more deserving…

  • I think it is selfish if you use it by yourself.  Sex is a matter of  cooperation. Selfishness is not acceptable in sex.

  • …I don’t understand why that’s selfish.

  • This woman implied that women would rather play with their toys than their spouses…doesn’t say much for her relationship with her spouse if she automatically assumes women would prefer their toys to their boys.  How sad.   

  • No, especially for unmarried women.  Helps keep them out of immoral relationships with boyfriends.

  • I dont think so.  A woman has needs,.

  • No! It’s better than sleeping around! 

  • And we’ve got one more for retroactive abortion.

  • Let just say “IF” self pleasure is a selfish act;  What is your selfish act?  It could be eating, or shopping, or self mutilation.  I personally believe that sex is a very beautiful gift shared between a man and a woman.  This is my conviction, even if my husband lives 100′s of miles away and I only see him occasionally, which for right now is my case.
    Again, my conviction.   I feel for me and unless asked, such as this post, I would never throw my opinion out there.  I would simply not read your post until I see one that is of interest and if I did not like the photo, I would skip or back space.   I do still have the control!

  • Uh, no. self-sustaining, maybe? LOL

  • Only if you never plan on sharing that pleasure with another human being ever for the rest of your life.

  • i don’t think it’s selfish, even though i understand what she means.

    another way u can look at it is that you want your virginity (if you’re one) all to yourself! that’s selfish! aha. but really, dildos. they can’t get you pregnant (yet) haha.

  • No, because the usage of a dildo is by choice. There’s really nothing selfish about it. :

  • @College_Ruled11X85 - If you’re not in a sexual relationship, or if he’s unavailable or unwilling, then it’s not taking any pleasure away from him.  Also, masturbation before marriage only makes you more comfortable with your own body.  The reason to wait is that sex is something special – the most intimate parts of you – that you want to share with the most special person in your life, your life-long partner.  But, how can your sexual desires and pleasure be too intimate to allow them to yourself?

    Plus, women who masturbate usually have much better sex lives, because they know what they like, instead of you both fumbling around together.

  • Have you been around a girl who hasn’t had any sexual release for a while? It’s selfish to NOT use one, because then everyone suffers.

  • I sell them. So I’m gonna go with no. Not Selfish. The company I work for teaches women about empowerment and their own sexuality. It’s important to know your own body. And there’s nothing wrong with knowing what works for you…

  • Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    *Catches breath*

    Hahahaha…

    How many subscribers do you have,  anyway?

  • I think that learning about your body and how to make yourself feel good is not selfish b/c it makes you a better lover- b/c you can communicate what you like and don’t like to your partner. I think giving them that knowledge will make them happier b/c they can confidently satisfy you.

  • It has as much to do with selfishness as it does abstinence. -

  • Depends.

  • just be glad you didn’t post the pics from wanabperfectordead site where there are 2 pics involving condoms, one of which 3 girls are wearing them while still in the package as like bikinis the other is a very colourful dress on a manquin of opened condoms…

  • seriously…wow.
    A dildo, if used correctly is all about self loving man!
    If you can’t get someone else to do it, do it yourself!
    Sounds like that lady has her panties in a twist

    She needs a dildo asap

  • Uh, are you really Rupert Murdoch or something?  I’ve noticed you are dwelling a lot on sleazy stuff lately.  C’mon, there are many more interesting things out there to talk about. . . .

    But to answer your question:  using a dildo isn’t selfish, it’s just stupid.  Sex is about intimacy with another person, not about self-stimulation.  If our society ever got that understanding through its thick skulls, we might actually have healthy relationships and less depression, etc.

  • I must say – NO!

    http://www.intimate-expressions.com/jbravata

    We encourage couples to use toys together.  In a man-woman relationship:  A man can use his hands for self pleasure, right?  (we know they do if they say they don’t, too much adjusting going on), there is nothing wrong with bringing toys into the bedroom. 

    http://www.themarriagebed.com (CHRISTIAN WEBSITE)

    Everyone needs to explore their own sexual desires.  You didn’t get sexual parts for nothing.  Grab a mirror and give it a go, you should know what is down there and you know should what down there enjoys most!

  • @ghosthouse - But to answer your question:  using a dildo
    isn’t selfish, it’s just stupid.  Sex is about intimacy with another
    person, not about self-stimulation.  If our society ever got that
    understanding through its thick skulls, we might actually have healthy
    relationships and less depression, etc.

    Not a lot of people realize what they like and don’t like.  A lot of couples have a very hard time communicating with each other.  Do you know everything your partner likes and doesn’t like?  Most likely the answer is NO.. Sex isn’t something most people sit down at dinner time and talk about.  “I’m horny, let’s have sex” and that’s it.  I hear it A LOT in my business.  It doesn’t even HAVE to be a dildo, there are many different items couples use in a relationship to help each other explore.. even books, obviously porn but that really depends on the person..

    Healthy relationships involve a lot of communication, 90% of the time all communication is LOST behind closed doors… causing depression.  If you’re not sexually satified with your partner, you’re going to be unhappy.

    Learn and welcome new things!

  • @hugxlaughxsmilexlove - I was assuming communication would be a part of “intimacy with another person.”  Full intimacy involves two people fully engaged with each other–mentally, emotionally, spritually, as well as physically.  The reason most people (those I know well, anyway) seem to struggle with intimacy is that they emphasize the physical so much that they let the other aspects slide.  The couples whose relationship works well have the other kinds of intimacy throughout their relationship, even when they are not able to be physically intimate.  And if they have that intimacy on so many other levels, why would they need to enhance the experience by using props and “sex toys”?  That’s like substituting an imitation for the real thing.

  • in a way.. yeah it is..

    in other ways it just grosses me out..

    I’m not sure why..

  • Umm no.

    I mean most of guy friends confess they have a wank every other night or so… so what’s wrong with girls essentially doing the same?

  • I don’t think selfish is the righ towrd to use, but masturbating is a sin, so maybe she thought you were promoting it, and that’s why she unsubscribed.

  • @College_Ruled11X85 - “it is selfish. you take all the pleasure for yourself and dont share it with the man. plus it’s like peeking at the gift of sex if you’re waiting til marriage to lose your virginity. that’s what the bible would try to impress upon its readers…”

    Actually, I would argue that it’s all the hypocritical, uptight women who have never had an enjoyable night in bed that try to impress that. I have never come across anything in the Bible that has said anything good or bad about masturbation. Plus, one particular book of the Bible has some very detailed descriptions on sex…almost like a how-to.

  • Everything we ever do is selfish. Everything.

  • Not so much. I see it more like as a way God provided out of temptation. Maybe.

  • This question is ridiculous.
    Of course it isn’t selfish for a woman (or a man, if that floats his boat) to own a dildo, or a vibrator, or whatever method of pleasuring herself she wants.
    95% of men masturbate, and the other 5% are liars.  Why, then, should it be unclean or selfish for women to seek release in a similar manner?

  • @College_Ruled11X85 - What man?  Isn’t that usually the point??  LOL

  • isnt masterbation suppose to be selfish?????????

    @XINERGY - Best answer yet!!!

  • Well, then all forms of masturbation would be selfish… >__> When really it’s more just relieving yourself.

    Plus, not all women are gifted with penis-shaped hands.

  • @XINERGY - LOL. *thumbs up for this one* 

  • no, but it’s gross. i’m never sticking one of those things up me.

  • @wishful - great point!

    I think we’re over generalizing this…  I’ll use wishful’s example.  I’m really hungry, so I’m about to go make myself a pizza.  I will probably offer my roommates some of my pizza…  But, what if I’m home alone and I don’t have anyone to share my pizza with?  Does it make me selfish to eat my pizza when I don’t have anyone to share it with?

    You can’t call me selfish because I didn’t run out of my apartment to find the nearest homeless person to share my pizza with…  Selfishness isn’s necessarily based on individual actions…  It CAN be, but it isn’t always…  We do things for ourselves every day, does that really make us selfish?  We have to consider the incidents OUTSIDE of what we do for ourselves when we DO and are ABLE to do things for others.

    My point:  Not everyone has someone to share their pizza with…  So, I can’t see the problem in satisfying your own hunger in an instance like that…

  • I have no problem with it, but a person (male or female) should be careful to not desensitize themselves to their partner if they’re in a relationship. If it got to the point where she prefers a toy over her man (or for a man to prefer a toy over his woman), then there could be a problem.

  • It’s CALENDAR, not calender.  Yeah, I’m a pain.

  • Men use dildos too but….anyway. lol.
    I don’t think a dildo is selfish. Couples can use dildos, it’s not just for a single person.
    ALSO sex can also be looked at as selfish, so can eating, driving a fancy car, not giving money to the homeless, etc.
    She won’t be missed.

  • As a minister, I say “no”. People always bring up the story of Onan in the Old testiment of the bible as proof that masterbation is a sin, but God didn’t kill Onan because he masterbated, but because he didn’t follow the mid Eastern tradition of  giving his dead brother’s wife a child to be his brothers heir.

  • If using a dildo is selfish, then so is using your hand. Masturbation is masturbation (God I hate that word haha we need to replace it with something that sounds nice) no matter which you slice it. I have a boyfriend and I KNOW he’s “shaken hands with the unemployed” when I’m not there and I’ve done the female equivalent to myself. Hell I have a vibrator and he thinks it’s hot. It’s not being selfish, if anything it’s the best way to get off without the possibility of getting pregnant (as you told her Dan). I’m sorry, but what a stupid comment.

  • Does that woman have a thing solely against dildos? I don’t think so. It sounds as though that woman just has a thing against masturbation, period. I think she thinks masturbation of any kind is selfish. I’ve met these type of people before, they are the most sexually frustrated individuals you will ever meet.

    No I don’t believe using a dildo or masturbation in general is selfish, so long as you are not allowing it to take the place of your significant other. Howver, if you are using the dildo or masturbation as a way to quench that sexual desire when your significant other is away or if you do not have a significant other, that’s fine. Also, using dildos and other sex toys while making love with your significant other can add a lot of spice to your love making.

  • @ralahinn1 - Exactly… he used the “pull out” method when he had sex with her. But you can’t tell that to the fanatical fundamentalist Christians who are scared of their own bodies and sexuality.

  • Did she say why it was selfish? I don’t get it. Is eating a candy bar selfish to? What about a nice long hot shower? Or soft pillows? Or slippers? Is this woman a some sort of nun?

    Bah. Crazy people.

  • Oh and one more thing… a lot of commenters have stated something along the lines of a woman and her fingers… i.e. long finger nails hurting, not being blessed with penis shaped fingers, ect. The majority of women are mainly stimulated by their clitoris therefore they attain clitorial orgasm much easier than vaginal orgasm. Why do you think there are so many vibrating dildos and vibrating sex toys specifically made for clitorial stimulous? We ladies don’t need penis shaped fingers or a penis at all to get off… just massage the clitoris is all… and vibrators do the job faster. We just need a penis or a penis shaped object to obtain that vaginal orgasm. And nowadays they have G-Spot stimulators that are garunteed to get a woman to that vaginal orgasm.

    This brings me to another good point. A lot of women have a hard time obtaining a vaginal orgasm. If her partner really wants to please her, why not use a dildo (a G-Spot stimulator) on her to give her what she desires. Isn’t that what love making is all about… to satisfy one another because you love one another?

  • @Rantastical - That was somewhat profound.

  • @JessicaAshley7 - 

     “it is selfish. you take all the
    pleasure for yourself and dont share it with the man. plus it’s like
    peeking at the gift of sex if you’re waiting til marriage to lose your
    virginity. that’s what the bible would try to impress upon its
    readers…”

    Actually, I would argue that it’s all
    the hypocritical, uptight women who have never had an enjoyable night
    in bed that try to impress that. I have never come across anything in
    the Bible that has said anything good or bad about masturbation. Plus,
    one particular book of the Bible has some very detailed descriptions on
    sex…almost like a how-to.

    lol, you’re right, i dont really read the bible…but the purpose of saving the gift of sex til marriage is defeated when if you masturbate because by definition virginity is lost…saving it til marriage doesnt say whether it’s selfish or not, but i think having sex by yourself sounds selfish.

  • I don’t see how that is “selfish”…

    then again… I am kind of bias. :P

  • I did not even know what dildo was until you bring it up.  I guess anything relating to sex or self pleasure is a touchy subject for all Christian.  This makes me wounder, is it a sin to masturbate before marriage?

  • If you think any action that doesn’t include/benefit other people is selfish, then I guess so. But then I guess my eating a candy bar is selfish, too. Oh noez.

  • I got it, I know what her issue is!  She is probably upset because she lost her dildo and thinks that the one that you posted on your site is hers!  Now, that is selfish…taking a poor woman’s dildo….For Shame!

  • @College_Ruled11X85 - I take issue with your assertion that “by definition virginity is lost” with masturbation.  I guess you have the right to define virginity for yourself, but the dictionary definition is not having had sexual intercourse (genital contact between two people).

  • LMAO!

    Oh well!  She’s not worth keeping.

  • Nope… if you guy have a smaller pecker and can’t do shit about it… I rather prefer the real thing… though…

  • Well, all forms of masturbation are selfish.  It’s trying to get a feeling that should be reserved for self-giving sexual intercourse in the context of marriage.  There’s nothing giving about masturbation; it’s just empty.  And no, it is not a need.  It is an attempt to either fill loneliness or boredom, and I feel great sadness for those addicted to that.  I’ve talked with some who cynically say that “everyone does it” and yet I know there are people who’ve never done it and one for sure who freed himself from the addiction of it.  

  • @enigmatic_intent - ok, i thought losing your virginity meant the hymen is broken…wow, that must mean im not a virgin anymore, see it doesnt make sense.

  • no, Let’s share lol

  • . . .probably in the category of “all things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial.” (?)  I think what she meant by “selfish” is that God created sex to forge a bond between husband and wife — that the “two become one flesh.”  So in that way it doesn’t really serve the purpose.

  • @College_Ruled11X85 -  A big part of what makes sex what it is the fact that it’s being shared between two people…  When masturbating, you’re not sharing it with anyone, so, it really isn’t comparable to actual sex…  Masturbating and having sex are two different things.  And, by the definition, virginity is NOT lost from masturbation…  Think about it; if guys don’t do it consciously, they end up doing it in their sleep due to sexual tension…  No guy would be a virgin under the pretense that masturbation loses virginity…

  • @maje_charis - There are all kinds of things that are “not needs” that we do every day…  If you’re going to call out masturbation, you need to call out everything else…  We don’t NEED the internet, Xanga, video games, TV, yata yata yata…  And they are all the same, too, things you generally do when you’re bored… and there’s nothing giving about any of those things, either.  Is it good to be addicted to them?  No, it’s not good to be addicted to anything… but we aren’t talking addiction, we’re talking general fulfillment.

    This isn’t a black and white subject…  Just because there’s nothing giving about something, that doesn’t automatically make it selfish…

  • @sugar_and_charm - That’s what I shoot for!

  • It’s selfish for a woman to have pleasure?  What century is she living in?

  • I’m back after reading some comments. A few of them are astounding.. “well if you deny the man his pleasure and take some for yourself then you are selfish.”  HELLLOOOO!!!  It’s not my “job” to please another person, it’s a shared thing.  And “no” is always my right.  Just because I might not want someone’s hands on me doesn’t mean I might not like them on myself.  Ridiculous.  And like someone mentioned, it doesn’t have to be a singular or spectator sport either.

    Thankfully, most of your commenters actually have common sense today. When I sold Fantasia, they would have kept me in business, hehe.

  • @droptop11 - I would be surprised actually.

    I do not believe. I would need to see it to believe it

  • If she finds it selfish, then she should share.

    Next time she has an itch on her body, she shouldn’t scratch it.  Cuz that’s selfish, too.  Or if she’s hungry, she shouldn’t eat. That, too, is selfish.  And if she needs to take a crap, she better hold it in.  Also selfish.

  • No.

    And um, news flash: We’re no longer in the Medieval Era!!!

  • @ghosthouse - thank you

    why do we need imitations? Intimacy has lost some of its value, maybe because we have cheapened it with marketing underwear as ‘intimates’. I think if I randomly surveyed people on what comes to mind when I say ‘intimacy’, I would get a physical description. Call me a prude, but I’m pretty happily single (without a dildo). Sure, I’m curious, but I want to experiment my sexual preferences with someone I know and trust on a mental, emotional, and spiritual level. No, I’m not naive; I understand my options very well. I’m just saying that there’s more to life than physical desire, so it can wait.

    On a second note, I don’t think a dildo is an efficient abstinence tool. Just my opinion.

  • @Rantastical - 

    Your comment provokes a good question; what makes masturbation different from other ways of seeking pleasure, like watching TV or going onto Xanga?

    Because the sexual impulse is something far more important and far more sacred than watching TV or checking Xanga, etc.  No one says, “Well, I’m not going to watch TV until I’ve found that special someone to watch TV with.”  How silly that sounds to most of us!  But with sex, particularly those waiting for marriage, masturbation seems like a cop-out. 

    Imagine, too, that a couple gets married.  One spouse has habitually masturbated, while the other has not.  After masturbating for so long, that spouse finds it difficult to stop during times when his or her spouse is away or is somehow unable to have sex.  Isn’t this almost like having an affair with oneself?  Masturbation and sexual intercourse may be somewhat different, but they stem from the same impulse, an impulse meant to express itself with another person.

    This is not to say that I look down on people who do masturbate, but I find it very sad.

    Thank you for your reply!  Have a wonderful day.

  • Of course using a dildo is selfish.  It amazes me that so many people claim to not see how it is so.  I think what’s more likely is that they are suppressing the knowledge of how it is.

    I notice that people keep saying things like “God gave us sexual parts for a reason” and “we have sexual parts for a reason”; it is assumed that everyone will understand and agree that the “reason” is to obtain sexual pleasure.  But under both the paradigm of theism and evolutionary atheism, sexual parts are for the propogation of the species. 

    Christians are permitted to believe, of course, that God provided sexual pleasure as a means of expressing intimacy between those who have become “one flesh”, but there is absolutely no godly support for the notion that sexual pleasure was meant to be obtained outside of the marriage bed.  And to the argument that there is no express biblical condemnation of masturbation, I must say–to be quite frank–that any person saying such a thing does not know God, or at any rate knows Him very shallowly.  Such people still think from within a mindframe of maximizing one’s own pleasure and minimizing one’s own suffering.  Such thinking had no quarter in the mind of Christ Jesus and has no place in the minds of those who claim that He is their Lord and Savior.  In the minds of Christians, at least, the question when approaching any choice should not be “what CAN I do?” but “what OUGHT I do?” 

    To the rather dimwitted argument that since the act of masturbation itself does not–at the time–harm anyone outside one’s self it therefore cannot be selfish, I would ask if the same reasoning can apply to the act of drawing pictures involving the torture and murder of others.  It, too, is an act where–within the time frame of the act itself–no one is being harmed.  But if one thinks a little harder than at the level of self-justification, one sees that such an act would have a high probability of being harmful to others in the future.  In reality, all of our acts are of such a nature.  They are either making us more or less selfish.  In biblical terms, they are making us more or less sinful.  In moral terms, they are making us good or bad. 

    The vast majority of masturbation involves fantasizing about another person.  Fantasy is not reality.  In reality, the object of your fantasy may not and indeed probably IS not so willing to be merely the object capable of sexually satisfying you in the method of your choice.  Even were this the case, a desire to be merely an object to be used by someone else is masochistic and–despite the objections of the S&M crowd–should not be encouraged or desired.  To put it in concise terms, routinely practicing such thinking cannot but make you think of others less as independent people in their own right and more as objects to be used (which is of course selfish).

    Another reason masturbation is selfish (and thus harmful) is because it promotes the thinking that instant gratification is the norm and that denying one’s self is “unhealthy” or unnecessary.  For Christians, the fact that Jesus said explicitly “Deny yourself.  Take up your cross and follow Me” should be enough to dispel with such foolish notions, but for others, it can be pointed out that the root cause of selfishness is an unwillingness or (should the unwillingness have been practiced long enough) an inability to deny one’s self for the sake of others.  Any thinking along the lines that “well, that may be true, but as little as I do it, it will never be such a problem for me” only indicates that it HAS become a problem for you.  There’s a reason Jesus said “Be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.”  Anything less (and for those of us who have not yet attained it, a desire for anything less) leads to the same place: utter evil/selfishness and damnation.  In theory one may be able to “allow” a little selfishness and not let it turn them into a demon, but in practice, saying “yes” to small evils inevitably graduates into saying “yes” to big evils.  We must lose our lives to save them.  We must die so that we can live.

    I speak neither from hypocrisy nor from perfection.  I have masturbated in my life; in fact, for nearly half of it (I am 22), but there came a point in my Christian walk where I was faced with the hypocrisy of claiming to want to be a selfless/good person while at the same time practicing something that made me less capable of being so.  I converted to Christianity four years ago and stopped masturbating two years ago.  At first, and after having done so for so long, it felt like torture trying to stop.  But such is the way for the breaking off of most habits/addictions, and that feeling cannot sustain.  Eventually, one passes through the final wave and is blessed to see calm seas ahead.

  • @maje_charis - 

    I think another question, though, is what makes a specific body part, that happens to be more sensitive to other body parts, so sacred?  I think it feels good to gently stroke the soles of my feet…  Should I not do that on my own because it would be more “special” if someone else did it for me?

    I’m all for sex after marriage and sex with only ONE person and all that, don’t get me wrong.  I just still believe there’s to huge a difference in sex and masturbation to say that one should not masturbate because it’s too much like sex…  It isn’t.  There are so many major differences.

  • I don’t think it’s very tasteful to post about condoms and dildos, in consideration of the younger members of your readership.  I would not say that I have ever been one to promote Christian values, but some things are just not very tasteful or “edifying”.  If I were raising kids, I wouldn’t like them to be focused on those things.  It isn’t all that interesting for adults, either, but mostly because it seems out of context for a site that suggests something of a Christian slant.  There are other sites to go to for those who wish to browse condoms and dildos, and anyone of any age who is inclined to do so, can.

    I wouldn’t post about those things on any site of mine.  But your site is tremendously more popular than any of mine!  So maybe it’s a “wow” thing.

    I haven’t got a clue if using a dildo is selfish.  But I do know a mom with young kids who keeps sex toys, and her children are familiar with the fact.  The nicest thing I can say about that mom is that she is tacky.

  • Jesus Christ NO!

    I eat ice cream… for pleasure… not even to give myself proper nutrition… it just tastes good… and it wont get me pregnant or give me STD’s.

  • That’s basically saying masturbation is selfish. If so, then treating yourself to anything is selfish, really if it’s not benefitting someone else.

  • hahaha…

    I hope so.

    I heartily advocate selfishness in contexts like this.  Make yourself feel good.  You’ll be happier; you’ll be more pleasant to be around, everyone’s better off.  But who cares about that aspect of it?  Enjoy it ’cause it’s what you enjoy.

    People seem so desperate to undermine their own value…

  • no, i don’t think it’s selfish.

    and haha that was really funny what you added about the condom-covered dildo being safe abstinence. i like your humor!

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