August 29, 2008

  • McCain Picks a Woman to be His VP

    John McCain has picked a woman to be his vice-presidential mate.

    McCain Picks Palin

    He picked Gov Sarah Palin from Alaska.  Here is the link:  Link

    The thing that is cool about this is that no matter what, a black man will be president or an attractive woman will be vice-president.  It will be historic either way.

    Which do you think is more significant, a woman or a black man reaching the highest levels of politics?

                                                               

Comments (170)

  • I think they are both pretty equally signifigant.

  • How about both? Equally?

  • I think that the US is so far behind in this area that either will be encredibe.

  • Is it true her husband is involved with Big O?

  • about the same for me.

    I think it would be more significant if it was a black woman in one of the higher offices.

  • Honestly, I have to say a woman. African-Americans received the right to vote before women.

  • Neither.  We’ve had qualified woman and qualified blacks in nearly every level up until now.  What’s the difference of where they serve vs how they serve?

  • i think it’s pretty equal.

  • I don’t know. We’re so far behind on both. Germany had a female Chancellor, Ukraine had a female Prime Minister, Britain had a female Prime Minister, even South Africa had a Black President.

  • Both are significant. But I think Obama winning would be more so because he’ll have earned it with a hard, long campaign.

    This woman, whoever she is, got picked because McCain needed someone young enough to counter his age and someone “historic” enough to challenge voters, especially former Hillary supporters, who are on the fence about Obama. She didn’t earn it. She was born at the right time and with the right set of chromosomes.

  • she’s pretty, how come he surrounds himself with not only beautiful women with nice hair and teeth but much too attractive women; especially for him. isnt he 75? yuck.

  • @wearywalden - That’s probably a bad way to view it. Seperate-but-equal was legal until 65 years ago.

  • Since we’ve had a woman V.P. candidate before, I’d probably have to go with the black man begin more significant. If only that black man weren’t Barack Obama.

  • Race and gender don’t matter to me.  Just find me someone qualified to lead our country without expanding our over-inflated government.

  • @Fuego_de_Noche - And what makes you think there is a Hillary supporter anywhere on earth who would vote for a Republican, even if she is a woman?

  • Oh, heaven forbid he pick an ugly woman.  I’d say both.  Neither.  I don’t know.  

  • Hey! I was supposed to yell “FIRST!!!” wasn’t I?

    Guess I broke the rules.

  • alaska?

    People live there?

  • @EarthsAzureLight -about the same time as the beginning of the women’s movement.

  • By the way, a great job by McCain to pick someone with a reputation of fighting corruption in government, even when it comes from her own party. I’ve thought the White House was in her future for a couple years now.

  • People are people!!!

  • To be honest, until the past 10 years I never expected to see either in my lifetime.

  • Neither.

    there are plenty of qualified people to be in politics, both male and female, and of different races.

    But, an attractive female in office…..

  • I can’t believe you said, “attractive” woman?? Kind of sexist thing to say…don’t you think?  

  • He made a good choice with that pick.

  • What’s more significant is getting either one in office that will actually prove to good for America as a whole. Personally I think this is a chess move for McCain, which is ultimately an insult to the Women’s movement. His political stance is still the same and putting a woman in office won’t change that.

  • What do -you- think is more significant: a white guy who wants to cut taxes for corporate america, or a black man who isn’t strong enough in his opinions to beat Hillary no-contest?

    I don’t care.

  • @wearywalden - Last I checked, white women didn’t have to go to different schools, eat in different areas of town and hide in fear of being lynched 70 years ago.

    Also there’s the whole Slavery thing. Women’s rights is a social status issue for the most part, not an actual legal right’s issue. Apart from voting, there hasn’t been much legislation against women for a long time.

  • It’s historic either way.  But, I’m more excited about having a female V.P. than having a black president.

  • @nidan - actually, i have spoken to a very disappointed hillary supporter who was considering doing just that…

  • @EarthsAzureLight - That is true but women has suffered a different kind of slavery which lasted a hundred years longer

  • @FlashFosgitt - Really? I’d expect the universe to go out of alignment if s/he did!!!

    Wouldn’t you?

  • I think MCCain made a wise choice for many reason…  and what a surprise!

  • @nidan - she was a bit tipsy at the time…

  • I think they are both significant, but I agree with an above comment, that said there are plenty of people qualified for politics, regardless of gender or race.

    She is very pretty, though. McCain likes to surround himself with attractive, younger women, I guess.

  • Wow… both quite significant.

  • @FlashFosgitt - ROTF!!! That must be it!!!

  • Neither. I think it depends on their skills, experiences and how great of a job they can handle stuff.

    x0x MK

  • This was a great pick! It was a much better decision than your pal, Barack Hussein Obama Jr. made last week.

    It’s equally significant. Geraldine Ferrarro’s pick in 1984 was a stunt for a ticket that never had a chance to win.

    This is real. John Sidney McCain III made the right choice here. I’m pleased. Get used to saying, “President McCain,” and, of course, Vice President Sarah Palin.

  • Vice president is not the highest level.

  • Mc Cain and his dirty tricks….

    i think this is all a ploy to convince people that things will be “different”..a black man is more significant..-adieu, stace

  • Race and gender are more and more irrelevant.  The true historic moment will be when nobody notices that a woman or non-white is running; it’s just normal.

  • @wearywalden - ? A different kind of slavery how? Slavery is slavery. Staying home and cooking isn’t slavery. It’s prejudice, its unfair, but its not slavery.

    Slavery is being forced to harvest crops while being whipped. Slavery is having your fingers chopped off if you don’t work hard enough. Slavery is having your tongue cut out for talking back.

    That’s slavery.

    Women’s rights are important, but comparing hardships women have endured to slavery is irresponsible and sensationalist.

  • @wearywalden - Just ask people like my mom how many people walk into her office for a consultation and then walk out because she’s “a nigger” compared to how many walk out because she’s a woman.

    Yeah.

  • @nidan - with this lady, you just never know…

    his choice for vp was a wise one–definitely increasing his chances of success. the question is this: is that a good thing?
    if you leave out the suppositions, innuendo, opinions, snide remarks & “news” laced with emotionally charged rhetoric, is there ANYTHING left that might actually be of some use to be help us to determine the answer to this question?????

  • Equally significant!  GO OBAMA!

  • Both are ground-breaking for us, which just goes to show how behind the times we really are in comparison to the rest of the world.

    Personally, I find it kind of sad that it has to be made such a big deal out of. Things like race, gender, sexuality or religion don’t matter to me and I don’t see them having a place in politics. In an ideal world, none of those factors would contribute or detract from a person’s chances of gaining office.

    Realistically, though, society doesn’t look at it like that. Guess me and my ideas of impartiality will just go unheard. So much for this newfangled concept of “equality”.

  • it doesnt matter…a stooge is a stooge
    whether a female or african american or even a FEMALE AFRICAN AMERICAN as P or VP….can they do a good job and take care of the people, thats what is IMPORTANT!!!!!

  • I think it would be a big deal if a American Indian were leader.

  • Why is it important that she is attractive?

    I think it is historical that she got the nomination and congratulations to her. But she is not experienced either. Not being experienced is suddenly not important to McCain or his voters anymore ?

    It is a move thinking based on the assumption that women are going to vote for her just because she is a woman. Unfortunately some old women will do just that. But she is anti-choice, anti-polar bear and pro-drilling. I don’t think young women will buy into that.

  • i think it shouldn’t matter what race or sex. i just want to see the better person in office. and i haven’t researched enough to post an opinion on who that should be.

  • I think she being on the ticket will only help him.

  • plus her hair is kinda creepy

  • A woman, unquestionably.  She’s actually different from past presidents in something besides skin color.

  • What amazes me is all these people who are saying, “Sarah was chosen because she’s a woman. She can’t possibly be qualified.”

    Disgusting.

    Palin was chosen, and excites the Republican base, because of her history of pushing reform and standing up to corruption. She’s done more to actually fight for reform in two years in Alaska than Barack Obama has done in four years in the Senate. That she’s a woman and she’s photogenic is just icing on the cake.

    There’s a whole lot more substance with her than what Democrats will tell you. But they act predictably hostile toward her, as they will toward any woman or minority who doesn’t tow their line.

    Disgusting.

  • Both are important.

    McCain may have just lost himself the presidency. I can see the remarks being made in the South and Midwest right now…”Yeh, well, that Obamer may be the antichrist, but at least he ain’t a woman!”

  • The only thing that would be more historic is if she was a black woman, I think.

  • Since McCain is 72, it also means a relatively young inexperienced woman could become the president if McCain is elected.

  • McCain/Palin in 2008!
    Palin/Jindal in 2012!

  • I remember when George H. Bush picked a relative unknown to be his running mate.  Dan Quayle become the butt of many jokes, even though he must have had something going for him to make it to the senate.

    I wonder what calculation McCain went through to pick Palin.  Did he think a young woman from the west with little political experience in washington would help balance the ticket?  Or were there people with more experience that might want to run for president next time and did not want to be on a losing ticket?

    Whatever, it does appear to be a bold move for John McCain.

    Hope God leads the country to make the right choice.

  • Even. I’d rather a black president over another white old guy though.

    Even if the vice prez is a chick. ^^;

  • what would be incredible is if a native american were in this position ~ jack

  • It’s equally historical… I do however think McCain is playing the game but whatever. Historical, nonetheless.

    @wearywalden - You’ve got a good point regarding the oppression of women but you’re also really out of touch with the plight of black people in America. That’s not necessarily your fault but it’s a very one-sided point of view.

  • If this isn’t a gimmick to pander to the undecided women voters, I don’t know what is.

  • @WilltheNeely - Obama’s not different from past presidents in anything besides skin color? Do u know anything about him??…

  • I think its more significant if women reach the highest level of politics…which is PRESIDENT, not Vice President.

    I think its great to have a male President and female Vice. Maybe America is not ready for a female Pres. (even though I think we are)…. but to have a female as VP would make it almost as good. What Im trying to say is…there are male top dogs then theres a female right behind him to help him out. Thats why there are soooooo many female assistants and such.

  • @LifeMeansChange - err………Have you not realized he is an amateur to politics? He has next to no experience! How can you even compare him to previous Presidents of the United States of America?? He wouldnt even know where to begin if he takes office.

  • @LifeMeansChange -

    I know what women have suffered does not compare to horrors of American slavery and the century of discrimination that followed. I cannot claim to fully understand the plight of black America but I was not serious in my previous comment. I was just playing devils advocate to get EarthsAzureLight worked up as he/she seemed so passionate about the issue. Needless to say, I got more than I bargained for.

  • Very smart on McCain’s part, I gotta say… but I’m still for Obama. The VP position is pretty useless unless the President dies anyway.

  • I was talking to a military mom today who voiced the opinion that we already spent 100 billion or whatever the total was on this war and history has shown us that an incomplete job leads to…

    What were we trying to do in Iraq anyway?

    What are we trying to do now?

    Why should we not leave?

    Why should we leave?

    Why is this election being decided on whether or not we will have a black president who has youtube videos with celebrities or a vice president who is a hot milf?

    Do you see why I am an alcoholic?

  • About time we had a woman in office.

    Women are smarter than men,  you know.

  • I can’t pick one or the other.  Either one will be significant for sure!

  • Both very significant, in my opinion.

  • No ugly chicks in Washington!!! Right? -_-

  • @benjimau5 - You took the words right out of my mouth.

    This election is so fucked up already.

  • I would have to say that I think a woman being vice president is slightly more significant. Though that’s just my opinion.

    I would also like to point out that Mr. Obama is only half black. It seems that a lot of people forget that.

  • Tchh.. “attractive” woman. Why didn’t you tag along “attractive” to black man…or at least some other positive adjective, huh Dan?

    I would say both are significant.
    I love this election.

  • @clynnspin - American Indian, as in, a descendant of India who has become and American citizen?

  • @jackisarockstar - Native American like me? A person born in America?

  • I would say the black guy, but really, what matters to me is who is willing and able to do their job and do it well.  Race and sex shouldn’t matter as long as the work that needs to be done is done, on time and done well. 

  • @nidan - A great deal of Hillary supporters had declared themselves for McCain long before this. Try listening to NPR or watching the BBC once in a while.

  • @oOBuBBLes711Oo - I believe that he’s proved himself in time he has had in office. He’s shown that he’s willing to work and and work for the people. He has a genuine concern for the everyday American very different from that we’ve seen in any President for a long time. And he’s an intelligent man. He’s smart enough to know when he needs help. He made a good choice in Joe Biden for VP and I believe that with his drive and focus along with a good cabinet he can make significant change in this country. That’s more important to me than who spent the most time in an already corrupted system.

    And I wasn’t comparing to previous presidents. My point was that he represents a different kind of politics than what we’ve seen so much in our country’s history. It’s also very different than the kind of politcs McCain’s bringing to the table. A much more direct, honest, approach that’s not so cut throat and underhanded. These are the particular differences I was referring to.

    And besides that, we’ve had more than one bad president. It’s not that everyone before Reagan was a perfect, pristine, law-abiding leader. Honestly, I don’t find it at all pretentious to compare anyone politican to past presidents because a lot of them weren’t that great.

  • @LordofRogues - First off I do watch BBC. The TV station I work at gets a direct Feed from BBC.

    Second: Not saying you’re lying or anything, but I really skeptical that the numers are as great as you suggest.

  • I would say both as well.  I think she is an excellent choice.  As a Republican I am very excited about this pick and I think McCain has made a gutsy choice.  The convention should be interesting.

  • Both. It’s been (usually old) white men in charge for ages

  • a woman

  • Honestly, I don’t think the color of the skin or what kind of equipment one carries between their legs should matter.  We’re electing a president and vice president, leaders of character who have differing visions for the future of our people, our country.    Will it be historic?  Yes, in the sense that it is different.  Will it matter in the long run?  I suspect not.

  • I think voting JUST for either of those two significances is dense.  And John McCain picked a good running mate for those people that won’t look seriously at the ISSUES and will vote based on the issue of Black man vs. Woman alone…………

  • either way, this looks more promising than Kerry vs. Bush.

  • A woman.

    The only reason I say this is that, yes, Obama is African American, but he is still a man, and men in general to not fave the hard-ships that woman do due to there gender, no matter the race.

  • @hoksi - doesn’t have anything to do with him personally, it has to do with him politically.. most of the people voting for hilary were only voting for her because she is a woman (morons).. he’s trying to get disillusioned hilary supporters to vote for him by giving them a consolation prize..

  • No offense, but can we look past the subjective here? I really am over all this hype about Michelle’s sense of fashion, and apparently, Sarah Palin being the first attractive female VP nominee? I don’t define this as making history. Yes, Obama being where he is today IS making history. But, about Sarah Palin, let’s get on with it, shall we? Seriously, let’s vote for based upon someone’s beliefs and promises…instead of what their next outfit promises.

    Yes, you’ve managed to piss off a sixteen year old about politics. Go figure.

  • @nluvwgreenday - my goodness, aren’t we sexist today..

  • Neither.  What will be significant is when Americans don’t make an issue of sex or skin color.

    But I am very pleased with McCain’s choice for VP.  She has built a rep for fighting corruption.  Even within her own party.  For me, that speaks volumes.  Our government needs someone like her.

  • This is certainly going to turn out to be one incredible election regardless of who wins.  I remember one of my history teachers in high school saying that he believed a black man would reach national office before a woman.  He had no opinion either way except that it was time for greater diversity amongst our politicians and I agree with that.  He said that in the mid-90s.  It’s great to know that either he will be right or wrong and that it’s going to be happening during one election.  

  • damnit. why couldnt Obama have chosen a woman for his VP? haha.

    anyone but McCain please!!

  • @EarthsAzureLight - Women are still fighting the domestic abuse battle, despite the fact that it is illegal. Slavery is done with. That being said, I don’t think it’s fair to assume that just because most (yet, most, not all) slaves were treated cruelly, that they deserve more pity than females of any race that have been oppressed practically since the beginning of time. I think they can be seen as equally painful. A different kind of pain, yes. But, weighed equally.

  • Well, you see, Dan, this isn’t the first time a woman has reached the highest level of politics. In 1984, Geraldine Ferraro was Walter Mondale’s VP pick, so a woman has been there before. Definitely have to go with a black man receiving the nomination from a majority party.

  • @heartbeatofmusic_x - Are you saying men don’t get beaten by people they know? I’m not endorsing domestic abuse, but it’s not legal, and when it happens (If the woman wants it to) the guy would go to prison, for a long time.

    Perhaps women have been oppressed, but it wasn’t legislated for. Women haven’t been property in this country ever, women have had all the same rights as men in this country except to vote for the entirety of the country’s existence.

    Now if you want to talk about women’s rights in other countries, yes, I agree women are oppressed horribly, and it’s bad. In the US though, no, I don’t see it.

  • @oOBuBBLes711Oo - Have you listened to any of his speeches? At his DNC speech he outlined specifics on plans he would (will?) enact if (once?) elected.

    I’m tired of this argument.

  • I don’t like McCain in the first place. This doesn’t add to my foul attitude toward him though.

  • While I would like to say a black man…I’m going to have to go with a woman.  It’s time to bust that glass ceiling.

  • I didn’t know that many people live in Alaska 

  • Attractive black man!

  • As long as they don’t suck I don’t care.

  • I never expected to see either because of how there is still a ton of racism. I think a woman being a VP is more significant because like someone else said, they received the right to vote after blacks. In history, women have always been fighting for their rights. Hillary’s gonna be soooooo mad when she wins, bahahahaha.

    I like his choice. She’s a super Republican and she’s not bad to look at. I’m happy with his choice. :)

  • She has more experience that the Obamessiah.  She was a mayor of a town and is the current governor of Alaska.  And by the way for those Obamessiah supporters who say Alaska hasn’t got many people.  Delaware, Biden’s state, only has a hundred thousand more people than Alaska.  So forget that stupid argument.  What are Barry Obama’s experience?  Well he was a neighborhood agitator in Chicago and has about 143 days experience in the US Senate.  Governor Palin is the commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard, a former mayor and a current governor, besides being a wife and mother, leader of PTA, coach, community leader (not agitator) and a former beauty queen (who liberal women despise with a passion).  McCain has more foreign policy experience than Joe “Hair Plug” Biden ever thought of having.  Barry Obama had to pick a white guy on his ticket to make up for his color and his inexperience in government.  McCain picked Palin for her experience of running a state government, her intelligence, her personality, her abilities, her strong family life, and the list goes on and on and on. 

    And the icing on the cake is:  Hillary is green with envy!  I LOVE IT! 

  • McCain… go back to your coffin. Ulgh.

  • @oOBuBBLes711Oo -  Lincoln had next to no experience too. Try learning, it’ll be good for you.

  • how about an asian women?  that’ll be the day.

  • Significant? Probably a woman because color isn’t that different is it? There’s still been a man in office before his skin color would just be different. If you think a black person is more significant than you’re racist. Why do people have to bring up race anyway. Or gender for that matter.

  • By far the black man (half) running for presidency. There is so much racism in certain parts of the country against black people and there is such negative stereotypes about black people too — to see one of their own ascend to such a position is a remarkable moment in American history for sure. By the way, this lady being selected VP isn’t half the story that Hilary running for the Democratic nomination.

  • @oOBuBBLes711Oo - Amen to that. I don’t think you should even qualify for a presidential candidate unless you’ve had at least 10 years political experience. What is Obama doing running for president? and more importantly why are people voting for him?

  • @theblackspiderman - Yes, they do. Don’t go during winter. It’s blacker than mollasses in hell at night.

    Hes definitley going after the Hills Clinton base with this one.

  • I was there today!!! It rocked! I’m not interested in that particular selection of black people for office (his politics disgust me- I’d rather see Colin Powell), so I’ll have to say the woman is the greater accomplishment- especially when one considers she’s a conservative who LIVES what she believes.

  • both obviously. not surprised that he chose a female for his running mate. good strategic move.

  • Black man becoming. I like my vice president’s to know what their job is.

  • a woman has been VP candidate before, so this isn’t exactly groundbreaking. running for the VP and running for the presidency aren’t the same things either. -_-

    either way, obama is much more deserving of the title “historic.” we’ve had women VP candidates before, but no black candidates. not to mention she has far less experience than he does (ironic much?).

  • Why does it matter if they can get the job done and are qualified?

  • Hmm…well gosh, doesn’t matter whether the person is male or female, black or white. What matters is the ability to inspire and lead. That being said I think Obama running for president is way more significant because of what he stands for.

    I have a really hard time accepting or trusting anything that the Repugs do. After the past eight years of nearly destroying this country, voting for McBush, err I mean McCain is asking for more of the same.

  • it doesn’t matter what the gender; qualifications and experience are what matter, but McCain’s pick failed miserably.

    that’s what we need in the Whitehouse, more fluff and no experience !

    I am afraid to say there is more to governing than trouncing around with the troops in tight pants..blah!

    sage

  • An old white guy attempting to make himself look more modern by choosing a woman as his running mate?

    Oh wait, that wasn’t one of the choices. Darn.

  • @mammaquiet - Repugs, lol.

  • @revengeoftheturtleneck - You know, that is such a different sort of comment than I usually garner around here, I was shocked for a second. Thank you.

  • Well now thats more like it……Keep America Beautiful………..Hell they can run as Beauty and the Beast………..John is one ugly guy for sure……….

  • Sarah Palin rocks!

  • This isn’t the first time that a women has been on a ticket as Vice Pres.  While she may have fought corruption w/in her own party, she has very little experience-less than two years as Governor.

  • I have to hand it to McCain.  The more I think about his choice, the more amazed I am.  It could be the best possible choice he could have made in so many ways.  A really bold move.  An unexpected turn of events that steals some of Obama’s thunder from the DNC and being the first African American predidential candidate.  We are used to that now.   But a woman republican for VP is going to dominate the news for a while.  She’s sqeaky clean, all american, a son in the military, took on big oil and increased taxes in her state so her state treasury is one of the few in the black, campaigned as anticorrupotion candidate, is a far from washington outsider, conservative pro life mom.  When Obama and Biden have to praise her for being the first republican female on a national ticket, ti glaringly points out that he did not pick Hillary as his running mate.  If they criticize her lack of experience, it rebounds back on Obama.  This is just stunning!

    The down side is that if McCain is elected president, at age 72, she would be a heart beat from the presidency, which some will think seriously about.   But when they do, they will have to also reflect on Obama’s experience.

  • Obama has already battled his way though the primary contest and won the nomination for the presidency.  That to me is more impressive than being nominated vice-president.  But either way, someone will break a long-standing barrier.  Much good could come from this.  (Of course, if either does a really lousy job, it could set back the cause for decades more…) 

  • I used to theorize that the first female president of the US would likely be a republican.  In England and Germany, the female Margeret Thatcher and – I am afraid I forget the female german chancelor’s name – are both pretty conservative.  I think a liberal female will be harder to elect in America than a conservative female, but that is just my opinion.

  • “an attractive woman”

    hahaha, so it wouldn’t be historic if she was a plain woman?

  • @nidan - I’ve also heard of a lot of Hillary supporters that were already voting for McCain.  Not only that but supposedly there is a womens movement going on to vote dems out of congress as a slap in the face to the delegates.  Should be interesting.

  • @jberg134 - Better to have someone without experience as second in command than as a leader.  At lease Palin has time for on the job training.  Obama doesn’t. 

  • neither….picking someone qualified is more significant.

  • @mammaquiet - What he stands for?  How about what he has accomplished?  What has he accomplished?

  • I believe that they’re both equally significant.

  • the US is far behind in this topic, yes, but better late than never. . to add to the list, even India’s had female prime ministers. . although both are equally significant, I l’m leaning on Obama’s side.

  • Both are historically significant, and this will be a much more interesting race now – especially since the woman is a Republican!

    I think McCain made a very wise choice.

  • I think both are pretty significant but the reality is…The world is not ready for of a black man or a woman to lead our country. I personally believe that color or sex should not have anything to do with; ‘who is the better for our country’

  • Equally significant!

    go obama!

  • I don’t think either is more important, both would be pretty cool. So far, I really like Sarah Palin.

  • I think it’s 2008 and it shouldn’t matter. The fact that it does and is touted as being something historic is pretty sad and shows that we are not yet ready to accept black people and women as equals.

  • Hey, a hockey mom who served on an ethics committee and as soon as possible fired the man who refused to fire her ex-brother in law?  Just what we need.  Beware a mother who is so happy and proud to send her teenagers into danger cause she just won’t give a sh*t about you.

  • A woman, but I don’t like McCain… so I rather have Obama?

  • Why do we keep insisting that gender or skin color is of ANY significance?

  • I think that both would be historic, but Obama definitely deserves his office more. Palin is just a no-body that no one cares about. Now, it’s for sure. If McCain wins, I’m moving out of the country.

  • She’s not bad looking for her age, but I personally think he should have chosen someone we actually know.  For this week, as much as I hate to say it. Point, Obama.  Why are we so worried about getting a woman or a black person in the oval office?  Let’s get an electable candidate that will make government smaller, will get rid of some of the public dole, and will promote healthy competition to do things like make new oil refineries,  drill our own oil, dig our own coal, push health care policy that will begin to get the gov’t out of the health care business, simplify our tax code, and get the federal government out of grade school education.  Maybe even get some of the healthy people off the welfare rolls.  While we’re at it maybe we could elect these same type of legislators to congress and to the state and local government.   Oops, someone wake me up. I’m dreaming again.

  • At first I didn’t think McCain had a chance against Obama. That was until he picked Sarah Palin to be his running mate.

    I think it’s just going to be a very interesting vote. It can really go either way.

  • Honestly we should look past the fact of gender and race and look at what either of them can do for our country to improve it.  Personally I am for Obama because unfortunately Hillary isn’t avaliable anymore, however I will not submit my vote for McCain just bc he has chosen a female as his VP. Attractive or not, that doesn’t mean she can benefit our country. Its not like looks can stop the war, or help improve our health care and cost of tuition. && anyway for what its worth she isn’t attractive she looks like an experimental rat.

  • @ayca - So what you’re saying is people who feel polar bears are important and babies are not, who don’t believe in drilling and who don’t like her hair won’t vote for her?  I’m glad I don’t fall into that category. 

  • @lightnindan - I recommend getting to know her, from the sound of your comment, I think you would like her.  She’s quite an impressive lady. 

  • It’s not much of an accomplishment to have a woman be a heartbeat away from the presidency and her not be at all qualified to hold that job.  McCain had many better qualified options to choose:  Sarah Palin wouldn’t be on anyone’s list of the Top 500 most qualified Republicans.  Hey, I’ve served on numerous committees and was twice elected to the Student Senate in my high school.  That probably makes me more qualified than a smalltown mayor who has served all of 18 months as governor of a lightly-populated state. 

    In New York, we saw what can happen when a smalltown mayor is elected governor, when George Pataki won the 1994 election of a campaign to reform the state government.  In his 12 years in office, state spending went through the roof, no state budgets were done on time (in fact, Pataki set alltime records for lateness in the budgetary process), and he left under a cloud of serious scandal.  He wasn’t qualified to be governor in 1994, and similarly Palin isn’t qualified to be Vice President today.

    If McCain wanted a woman to run for VP alongside him, there were at least a dozen qualified Republicans, including Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison.  But all of them are older, more experienced elected officials, and none of them are, to use your phrase, “hot.”  Palin’s very attractiveness suggests that McCain wasn’t using his brain when he made this choice.  And that’s not only way creepy (remember the Bob Dole Viagra ads, anyone???), but it also undercuts his claim to have good judgment.  Heaven help us!  Once again, our presidential choice is between Tweedledum and Tweedledee. . . .

  • I would say until either happens, they are equally important.

  • @theblackspiderman - I have relatives there.  I think other people live there too.  I’ve heard rumors anyway.

  • I don’t know that I care about either factor honestly.  There may be different ethnicities but there is only one race… human.  …and in either case, if we are voting for them BECAUSE of the factor then it takes away from it.  I vote based on issues… not gender or race.  The fact that so many would turn out to the polls for that one factor alone concerns me actually.  Are we so fickle as a nation?  Don’t get me wrong, it’s great that one will happen but we can’t let THAT be what we are voting for.

  • @dropsofjupiterihh - I would normally not reply to your comment but I will. I did not say babies are not important. The choice to have an abortion on the other hand is an important right protected by the constitution. And I hope your hair is not creepy as hers.

  • @ayca - From your comment it appears that you care about polar bears and see killing babies as a choice.  To me that seems like you don’t think babies are important. 

  • May the best win …

  • why would you ask me a question you already know the answer to? is your lineage of native american descent? do you color in the box which says alaskan native/native american when asked your ethnicity? don’t attempt to trivialize my ethnicity with semantics or by boasting to be a native when it’s clear you are not ~ jack

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