September 26, 2008

  • Purity Rings and Masturbation

    Is it inconsistent to wear a purity ring and masturbate like crazy?

                                                                         

Comments (115)

  • Lol, I’m not sure on that one. Surprise, surprise, I don’t masturbate either. I would think it’s inconsistent though.

  • I have sex a lot, and still masturbate like crazy. hmm…

  • I think it is inconsistent. But, even among Christians I’m sure that view varies a lot.

    What’s with the obsession with sex?

  • I have not given that much consideration, about as much consideration as I gave to being pure myself.

    I suppose lust is not all that pure. But then I have never been much into masturbation except when someone . . . that is not a pure thought a all.  Dan better get back home quick I am in need after this entry

  • No. A purity ring – at least to me – is a commitment not to have sex before marriage. There is nothing immoral about masturbation.

  • Hhahaha, masterbate like crazy.

    Nooooooo. We have hormones and its going to kick in; we gotta do what we gotta do to “release” it, right? Besides….masterbating is not sex

  • @Tom@revelife - Clearly, you have none, virgin.

  • IT really makes you wonder doesn’t it…

  • Well, it ain’t sex. 

  • it’s o k unless it is pierced thru your foreskin !

  • I guess it would depend on the person’s views on in. Personaly I would have to say that would be cheatiing but thats just me.

  • That’s like a cock ring right?  Adds to the pleasure.

  • masturbation is A DEFECT OF THE MIND.
    ew.
    ew.
    ew.
    wanna look at the breviary or the code of canon laws? :|

  • @captain_jaq - Sadly not even close unless . . . but then if your not alone is it really masturbation?

  • I think a bit, yeah. They aren’t really talking about ALL purity when they throw those on. They are talking about fooling around with another person. However if they are so intent on staying pure as to put on a ring they might as well not masturbate either.

  • didnt we just have this topic before?  and for a guy, does he needs to jack off to release otherwise get ED? or something like that.

    for girls… who the heck knows, i sure don’t. i suppose it is all about what runs through your mind. if u masturbate with lust, then it is wrong. but if u did it just to feel good or cuz u just happened to be doing it… i guess thats  different.

    i have had this debates a lot before in youth group i went to … only if they knew… .

  • @simply_riva33 - No it’s not.  Check the DSM-IV.

  • @momma2babies34@revelife - Not really, that’s just what men say to “excuse” the behavior.

    Masturbation is really just to relieve sexual tension.  What’s worse?  Getting off on your own, or just fucking everything until you’re satisfied?

  • @The1Stacy -  thanks for clearing that one up for me. make sense. and i agree, get off on ur own. please don’t use me and then if i am not available, find someone else to do it! that would hurt.

  • hahaha. well, its not sex….

  • It compensates for not getting any, no? :P

  • If I don’t masturbate, it just means that I’ll probably make a mess in my sleep and wake up without time to shower.

    And who the hell wants that?

    I’m not planning on saving myself, but I’d be fine if that’s the way it happens. I tend to be attracted to girls who want to save themselves, and I would never pressure a lady into having sex. That’s high crimes against humanity.

    And just… I don’t know, it’s stupid to deny yourself pleasure and stress relief and feeling sexy because your God is an angry father. God, what a simplistic thing to say. I’m not trying to belittle any guy who feels differently, I just don’t understand why He would take such offense at something that hurts nobody. Unless you get addicted to porn and your social life and ability to love become crippled… but other things factor into that, not just beating the bishop, no pun intended.

    On the other hand, porn is rather unnecessary for me, but I’m probably fortunate in that regard.

  • Masturbation is not a defect of the mind! It’s a defect of my fingers.

  • In walking with Christ there is going to be all kinds of impurity.  Even Christ said to think about someone sexually is sin just as if you really had.  Something that one must repent for and seek not to do.  However, scripture also says it’s going to happen at times.  We have our spirit and flesh fighting as reborn believers.  So I think the ring signifies the “spirit” of the pledge and not the exact and literal meaning.  Impure thoughts and actions will come, but unless someone is acting “sexually” with someone else then I would the “spirit” of the pledge is sustained.  IMHO.

  • Not as long as you take it off while you masturbate. 

  • Good question. I can’t answer, though. I’m an atheist.

  • hmmm i kinda must admit that i don’t care at all…yeah, at all!

  • i guess its not sex…

  • LOL. defeats the purpose really. 

  • Dude, I am going to blog about this someday, in my current xanga name. I have taken masturbation to it’s extremes and I suggest anyone who ever was curious do the same.

    Great way to break a habit

    Girls of legal age are AWESOME!!! Cause I already did everything else you can think of.

    Purity what?

    I soil purity.

    Very well.

  • Dan…what the fuck? 

  • masturbate like crazy? define crazy, please

  • you see the thing is. heh.. i think masturbation would hel greatly in the quest to remain pure, as in, abstain from having sex with eachother until marriage..so um,no

  • @justfinethanku - haha

    masterbation is healthy, that is honestly ridiculous for any greater being or any human being to expect a person to have no sexual release until they are married. Seriously?

  • First purity rings are pretentious pieces of junk, Victorian era minded parents force on brainwashed kids, at least thats my take on it.

    And I would assume masturbation might keep people pure for their rings sake.

    People are sexual creatures, you really cannot deny that any more than trying not to use the bathroom. Biological needs will prevail.

    People are also thinking creatures, and I don’t need a trinket to decide how and what defines the limits of my sexuality.

  • Great post. I think the idea you pose is funny.

    There are a couple of ways to look at it, in my opinion.

    Technically speaking, Wikipedia describes Purity Rings with:

    “Purity rings, or chastity rings/promise rings originated in the United States in the 1990s among Christian affiliated sexual abstinence groups. The rings are sold to adolescents, or to parents so that the rings may be given to their adolescent children as gifts.

    It is intended that wearing a purity ring is accompanied by a religious vow to practice celibacy until marriage. The ring is usually worn on the left ring finger with the implication that the wearer will remain abstinent until it is replaced with a wedding ring.”

    Which then leads to the Wikipedia description of Celibacy:

    “Celibacy refers to the lack of participation in sexual intercourse. A vow of celibacy is a promise not to have sex and not to enter into marriage. The term involuntary celibacy has recently appeared to describe a chronic, unwilling state of celibacy. Sometimes the word is also defined as the state of being unmarried.”

    So technically, no.

    The other way is determined by interpretation. Some may say the spirit of the Purity Ring is broken with that act.

  • @ducati623 - Works every time. :)

  • a purity ring represents what you’re about and what you want to attain.  i may not share the views of those who wear it, but i respect it.  what they do behind closed doors (and PLEASE let it be behind closed doors!  keep the mouse in the house, buddy!) is on them.  being “pure” these days is so hard, and people have varying degrees of how they define that word.  sex is used as a marketing tool, for crying out loud!  the media have no regard for age when they market teenagers in some very… unflattering ways. 

    i won’t judge either way, because people have their own reasons.  unless, of course, they wear the ring to keep up appearances.  then i’ll be chucking stones like crazy.  just kidding… but seriously.  people need their “release”.  i’m still waiting for the Above The Influence ad that goes like this:

    “Masturbation is my anti-drug.  Above the influece.”

  • Well personally I’ve always felt that it’s the thoughts that go along with masturbation that make it impure, not the act of touching oneself.  It doesn’t make much sense to me why executing a bodily function could in and of itself be sinful…  There has to be an outside force.  Just my thoughts on the matter.

    God Bless,

    Chris

  • I really don’t know.  I think that purity is more than technical virginity.  I think purity is a beauty of heart.  If someone is masturbating like crazy, what is their inner life like?  How do they feel about themselves?  Are alive to their full potential or are they just getting by?  If someone feels completely innocent and good about his or herself and are not lying to his or herself, then leave it at that. 

    This is slightly off topic, but is one of my favorite all time stories.  Since most of the time people wear purity rings because of religious reasons, I hope you don’t mind if what I share is Christian in nature.  It is a true story, though it has been a long time since I have read it.

    A woman converted to Christianity and began attending a fairly traditional Christian church.  She was in the habit of having various sexual encounters with both men and women.  No one told her this was wrong.  And she continued to have them.  But shortly thereafter she realized that she didn’t like how she felt the next morning and made adjustments accordingly.  It wasn’t all sexual activity all at once, but bit by bit over a relatively quick amount of time including masturbation if I remember correctly.   She wound up having an ideal sex life according to Christian standards without ever being told that she had to. 

  • @wxcruiser - Best. Comment. EVER!

  • I guess they need to do something to avoid to explode until they marry with 18.

  • I was wondering…if my boyfriend of 2 years cheated on me, what should
    I do? He is in Florida interning, while I’m in NY. Is it easier to get
    over him since he’s far away or harder? How do I get over him &
    stop thinking about him?

  • I guess kind of…

  • @momma2babies34@revelife - is there such a thing as un-lustful masturbation?

  • lol… the image is too funny

  • Masturbation is natural, as is sex. The ring is only a social commitment not to engage in intercourse untill marriage. Doesn’t say anything about letting curious fingers walk…..

  • Nope. Masturbation is healthy.

  • You’ll go blind…………

  • Simply stimulating, Dan !

  • I don’t know.  My morals seem to be way off base on topics like this compared to your average Christian.  I myself wouldn’t feel immoral for partaking.  But that’s just me.

  • Is it inconsistent to wear a purity ring and masturbate like crazy?

    That depends on where you attach the purity ring.

  • Are you trying to soothe your conscience?

    Probably is, since a lot of the time masturbation involves so called “impure thoughts”.

  • It’s completely inconsistent, unless you can manage to masturbate without having even one impure thought; not even one thought that even comes close to being sexual.

    If you can do that; then I don’t know whether it’s right or wrong.. but I don’t know ANYONE who can touch themselves like that and NOT think about anything remotely sexual.

    Moral of the story?  If it’s questionable, better safe than sorry.

  • Temptation is a part of life and giving up the temptation to have intercourse before marriage is temptation enough.  To take away the temptation to release the hormonal pressure (even though it will happen in the form of nocturnal emissions if you don’t) is crazy in my mind.

    I understand how you can give something up if you’ve never had it, but once you have… well kudos to anyone who can give it up after tasting the forbidden fruit of servicing your own tool.

  • I like how you said like crazy.

  • @Don_Cauchi - Well, it would be hard to argue that sex isn’t natural, but what makes you say masturbation is natural as well?  I mean, last I checked masturbation wasn’t part of natural human instinct (or animal instinct either, for that matter), but a learned behavior.

    Personally, I’d call it an unorthodox manifestation of a natural desire.

  • @ArphaxadHunter - I don’t know if it’s necessarily learned behaviour…. masturbation has been observed in very young children and animals before. Sex in humans isn’t really instinct either.. socialization plays a lot into it. Sex drive is natural but knowing what to do with it is almost entirely learned.

  • Well, it does kind of kick out the whole “purity” part of its title. They should rename it to be the No-Sex-With-Another-Human-Before-Marriage Ring so they can go touch themselves at will, but that title just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

  • @peanutconqueror - lmfao……best reply so far!

  • Well, the Catholic religion believes masturbation is wrong, because it only gives yourself pleasure, so I assume, if you are catholic, than it is wrong.

    Of course, I’m not Catholic.

    But a little inconsistent it is.

  • I don’t think so. For me, my purity ring (if I had one) would be to wait until I’m in a committed relationship to have sex (it is your choice what your agreement is with your god in your religion). Masturbation doesn’t count.

  • not sure about men, but women can orgasm without even thinking about sex during masturbation and it that case, i dont feel guilty at all.

  • Someone wears a purity ring as a covenant that they will not have sex until they are married. Masturbation is NOT having an intercourse with another individual, so it is not sex.

    And as far as whether or not masturbation is a morale issue or not, that truly is individual. 

  • Not at all. The purity ring has to do with what sort of intimacy you will have with another person. There’s nothing wrong with masturbating, unless you become so obsessed with it that it gets in the way of other areas of your life. People feel sexual urges. It’s part of life and nothing to be ashamed of. When you masturbate, you don’t have to worry about STDs or pregnancy, you’re not hurting anyone, and it’s just harmless fun. 

  • aw man, i really wanted to share this site with my friends. but after my last comment, i think ill wait a while. 

  • After you have had some good sex in your last two marriages and then become single,you do masterbate.I am used to having it so I have to masterbate.Plus,I find that it takes tension away..so yes!!!

  • It all depends on the person’s beliefs.
    It’s not about other people’s opinions, it’s about the person wearing the ring.
    Like what it means to them.

  • @emy_LAUSD - LOL! 

    You should ask Dan to delete for the sake of your self preservation. xD

  • “Like crazy.” Hahahaha…

  • It depends entirely on why you wear the purity ring, and what purity means to you. If it simply means, “I won’t have vaginal intercourse,” then, purity ring or not, a person will masturbate all they want.

    But if a person has taken on a purity ring in an effort to remain completely pure in their sexuality until the day when they offer themselves as a complete gift of self, through God, to their spouse, who make a gift of each other back to God and share themselves completely in Him and for Him, well, then they will not masturbate.

    Personally I believe that it is entirely inconsistent to wear a purity ring and masturbate at all.

  • @trunthepaige - Hahahaha no, then it’s foreplay ;]

  • I do not look at masterbation as sexual activity. Otherwise, I would be cheating on my husband everyday of the week. I know TMI but seriously. I am more comfortable with my kids masturbating as teens then them having sex right now. So, No, it is not inconsistant.

    There was a movie called the Road To Wellville, a group of people were caught masturbating (because no one was allowed to have sex) They said that they were not masturbating, they were massaging their sexual organs.

    Masterbation is just a form of release of sexual tension. Other animals masterbate. We are animals. It is a natural thing. My cat, before she was fixed, my friend’s cats, dolphins, dogs,..monkeys..animals masturbate. 

  • I think it depends on your reasoning behind getting a purity ring.

    If you’re a Christian, I think that anything that detracts your mind from God and makes you think only of your own pleasure shouldn’t be done. But I can’t know for sure, God didn’t ever say anything on the topic of masturbation, did he? 

  • ha ha ha ha…. oooooh boy

  • Oh, thanks a lot. Now I can’t masturbate to anything other than images of girls wearing purity rings. What did you do to me?

  • how else would you keep your sanity if you didn’t masturbate as a virgin? seriously, you can’t suppress that natural urge.

  • 1.) It seems inconsistent.

    2.) I believe it’s all about what runs through your mind; all the time.  What are you thinking about when you’re working out your frustration?

  • I’d say no, unless you are using the ring to masturbate. Then you are just sick and disgusting and should burn in hell.

  • man, why are so many of your questions so inappropriate?
    i don’t mean to be mean, but maybe you should begin asking more thought-provoking questions again, instead of ones like these.

  • Masturbation IS pure.

    C’mon, organized religion, throw us single people a bone here!

  • @ClockworkBunny - …No innuendo intended in that comment. -_-

  • So wait? You can’t be pure and masterbate?

    I mean, I’m not….(cough) pure, but even if I was…..I couldn’t be pure while masterbating?

    Not that I do

  • @Tom@revelife - why the historical and present Christian obsession with prudery?

  • @eightiesfan - Dan is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse, the one who could only afford a donkey.

  • Are you kidding? It’s perfectly consistent.

  • It defeats the purpose of wearing the ring.  If you are masturbating you are commiting fornication with yourself.  Yes, masturbation is sex.  I don’t care what DSM-IV says.  It written by a bunch of godless, liberal quacks.  I listen to God, who says chastity means abstaining from ALL sexual activity.

  • I don’t get the idea of purity in the first place. But the image of some guy wanking it 5 times a day to 10 on 1 gang bangs porn flicks, yet still being “pure” for marriage is kind of funny. Besides, for guys, even if we don’t wank it, it’ll come in our dreams anyway.

  • @SuperEvilPopTart64 - 
    cause you fail more. :P
    but seriously, look at those books.
    that’s our freaking lesson in cl class. :|

  • I don’t know about inconsistent, but the friction from the ring would sure make it uncomfortable after awhile.

  • Haha, “Masturbate like crazy”.

    I am pro-masturbation. Some people are jerks if they haven’t gotten any in a while, and this is a nice remedy.

  • masturbation is healthy and normal.  and it doesn’t take your virginity away.

  • hahahahahhaa

  • I’m Switzerland on this one.

    If you’re REALLY dedicated to not having sex before marriage, why would you need to wear a ring to tell yourself that? Just sounds like people can’t think for themselves.

  • God created our sexual needs.  Masturbation is just a way to satisfy those needs without sex. 

  • I dont think it is, really. Masturbation and sex are two different things, as sex involves two or more people…..

  • I think so. If you’re Christian you’re supposed to have pure thoughts too as well as pure actions, and masturbation generally involves fantasizing sexually as well as the physical action, so it would fit the definition of “sinning” or being “sexually impure.”

  • What makes masturbating impure?

  • @mistress_onixx - You don’t necessarily have to think impure thoughts while masturbating.

  • @rdgardner - Well, then what does one think about in order to become aroused while masturbating- something holy, like angels? I don’t think so.

  • I would say that the majority of people who are so obsessed with being what they refer to as “pure” are badly misinformed/misled.

    @Tom@revelife - Do you mean on this site, or in general? I believe that, in general, the world is obsessed with sex because at the absolute barest bones of all biological existence, its the point of being. Go forth and multiply.

  • @mistress_onixx - I think some people might already be aroused before they start to masturbate, and you don’t have to really think about anything.  Baseball.

  • @rdgardner - But if your goal in masturbation is to arouse oneself further and perhaps achieve orgasm, I don’t think “thinking about nothing” or thinking about baseball will do that.

  •  @mistress_onixx -  For a person wearing a purity ring, the goal is not to want it anymore.  And once it’s done, the thought is out of your head, and you can think a lot more clearly—like about how silly it is to masturbate.

  • @rdgardner - I was just thinking- if you don’t want that desire anymore, then why don’t you just go do something else entirely unrelated to masturbation? It’s easy enough to tamp down one’s desire- I chose to be celibate for close to a year and never even felt a twinge of desire. It just takes willpower. Understand, I’m just playing devil’s advocate here and encouraging a healthy debate- I myself don’t believe in purity rings or waiting until sex for marriage.

  • @mistress_onixx - I would need willpower to not do things that I think are wrong.  I don’t think it’s unvirtuous to masturbate. 

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