February 22, 2009

  • Octuplets Dad

    A man is claiming that he may be the biological father of the octuplets.

    He claims that Nadya Suleman convinced him to make a sperm donation but he is not certain of whether his sperm was used to get her pregnant.  He wants a DNA test to prove whether he is the father.  He has said he is willing to help her with the kids.  Here is the link:  Link

    If he is the biological father, does he have a moral obligation to help raise the kids?

                                                                                     

Comments (109)

  • It was just a sperm donation, so no.

  • He had the moral obligation to abort those kids.

  • No,but it is an honorable thing to do.

  • No, he has no obligation to help raise the kids.  On another note, I think this man is crazy.

  • Not necessarily. I mean, he was just a sperm donor. It looks like she needs all the help she can get though so now that he said that and if it turns out he’s the father it’s going to be expected.

  • If he’s willing, and he is definately the biological father, then yeah, he should help out in raising those kids.

  • No. He only donated his sperm to her. 

  • Omg yes duh i mean tey kud b de nex duggar famly!!!!!!!

  • nope i should think not. 

  • No but it would be nice for someone to help her. Even though she is Angelina wana-be and is a little crazy.

  • @Dare2BDiferentt - hahahaha.

    Anyway, he will have a legal obligation, I believe; and on a moral standpoint: if he can help out, he certainly should help out. Even if that lady is wack-a-doo, those poor kids are going to go through hell with just her supporting them.

  • No. It wasn’t as if he was involved with the mom in a romantic relationship…if that were the case then it would be a different story. But if he were just a sperm donor, then then would have no moral obligation to those children, unless he wanted to help take care of them, of course.

  • not azza sperm donor no however azza humanitarian thatza whole uther ishue 

    but i wud be caushis if i wuz him she seemz reely reely needy

  • All that guy wants is attention.

  • @hellaz - That is horrible. Just because the mom is over her head and a bit crazy doesn’t mean that the babies deserve to die.

  • i dont understand why they’re saying if she dosent get help asap she’ll have her kids taken away. its not right, she didnt hurt them or anything. i think if he was the dad, he could help out.

  • Nope.  As just a donor he did his job already.  If he did help, that’s great, but I wouldn’t blame him if he didn’t.  

  • no, but, it seems like it would be a nice thing for him to do.

  • @lauraiswhoibeee - Why would/should/could they be taken away?  She is unemployed and has 14 kids to take care of.  How on earth, even with state aid, can a woman provide for 14 kids without steady income?  One kid is incredibly expensive – 14 is unbelievable.  It was truly neglectful on her part to put those babies in this situation. Those babies deserve to be taken care of and if she can’t do it, that’s neglect.  Not being able to provide for your children IS hurting them.

  • well no he doesn’t have to at all. it’d be admirable if he did though.

  • He was just a sperm donor, so no. But if he is the father, and wants that recognition…then he should take the responsibility that goes with that.

  • He isnt the dad he’s only the sperm donor.. Way to get on the Octomom train, dickhead!

  • i could care less. SHE is an idiot !

  • in this case, he has no moral obligation to help those kids.

  • No.

    He’s the sperm donor, not the father.

  • how much more attention is this crap gonna get?

    she is pathetic, the Dr. should lose his license and this guy is nuts! Next week we will hear they werent even her eggs, they were mine!

  • Hm.  I really don’t know.  Shouldn’t it raise questions in your mind if someone is asking you specifically to be a sperm donor instead of going to a bank?  Why did he just hand over his swimmers–half his actual DNA– without question?
    I don’t know the actual laws but from my understanding, sperm donors–through banks–have their identity protected and their rights and obligation to the children waived.
    Maybe Suleman is actually a super genius and, as a means to support her large family, decided to go around these “stupid” rules put in place by the sperm banks and use sperm without any sort of paperwork involved so that she could eventually take him to court to get him to pay child support.
    Her plan isn’t going so well.  It’s just not as evil genius-y if someone volunteers to do it.
    She will never be Angelina Jolie if she can’t better hone in her evil genius PR-manipulation skills.

  • No, but the fact that he’s willing to help, especially after he made a sperm donation specifically for her and not just for cash randomly is very responsible.  It’s too bad more men won’t step up and take responsibility for their children.

  • If we hold sperm donors responsible for the raising of the childern, that will be the end of  sperm donors being used were husbands are infertile.

    So no but this guy seems interested in willingly taking on some responsibility.

  • he is just a sperm donor. i seriously think he wants the attention more.

  • No, but if he wants to help that’s fine.

  • It depends on how you define moral obligation.

    If you’re talking about his responsibilities as a father, then no, because he is not the children’s father.  He is merely a sperm donor, as many other posters have noted.

    If you’re talking about one human beings moral obligation to make a difference in the lives of those in need, then that is a much deeper question.

    Personally, I think that we should all do what we can to help each other.  I don’t think it is a strict obligation, but it certainly doesn’t hurt.

  • @DirtyAndShaken - i had a great grandma who had 14 kids, only 4’10″ just like me, i dont know if her husband was dead or what but she took care of them, so i dont know why she couldnt either.

  • Yeah, I’d say so.  People are saying it’s just a sperm donation, but the only real difference is that his penis didn’t enter her vagina.  He had a choice to make a sperm donation and he could have chosen not to.

    ETA:  This is different when it’s an anonymous sperm donor at a sperm bank because of the fact that the men and women involved don’t know each other…man, it’s way too early for me to be talking about this…

  • it’s a sperm donation so there’s no moral obligation but i suppose it’s nice to want to help out.

  • No.  I don’t see him any differently than a mother who gives up a baby for adoption.  Like others have said though, it would be the honorable thing to do. 

  • He’s not obligated, but if he’s willing to help, she shouldn’t deny him.

    However, he’s probably just doing it for his 15 minutes of fame…just like that 15 year old girl that had the 13 year old boy’s baby…now all these other “potential fathers” are popping out of the woodwork.

  • No,But if he is the father and he does help out, then he is a wonderful man. because it’s not about the crazy mother…its about those 14 kids. 

  • I hope he isn’t doing that just for media attention. 

  • no, because it was a sperm donation. if he wants to help out? more power to him.

  • She went through the legal channels to make it so that the sperm donor had no rights to the kids. He’s free and clear. If he wants to step in, then good for him.

  • I would say no.  If a guy is a sperm donor, he usually will not even know if his sperm fertilized an egg.  Just because this guy thinks that his DNA may be in the octuplets, it doesn’t mean he has a moral obligation to raise them.  He donated the sperm with the intentions of never knowing whether his sperm helped make a baby or not.

    This is probably some ploy to spread who the father is around the media…

  • No.

  • Not necisarily, because he was only a sperm donar, but if he’s willing, then of course.

  • she dumb but i think that the dad should be found. it would suck being one ov eight kids and not know who was ur father. id be pissed

  • No, but that’s nice of him to do it.

  • Of course he does.

  • Absolutely not.  This is exactly what they both want… attention. 

  • Given that it was a sperm donation, he has no obligation towards those kids at all.  It is still an honorable thing for him to do.

  • Even if he had a moral obligation to do so, any help he could provide would be nearly insignificant. My mom was telling me today she heard it was going to take over 100,000 a month to adequately provide for 14 children, 8 of them newborns. Unless he’s a multibillionaire, he won’t be able to do too much.

    AND…if it was a sperm donation, it’s an entirely different situation. Sure, he’s the biological dad, but only because he collected and sold his little swimmers.

  • The dude wants attention, fame and money.

  • According to her interview the dad is a good friend of hers who was willing to donate his sperm and she made sure that he would not be legally responsible for them. If this is true and he’s coming forward I believe he may be wanting some attention.

  • moral obligation? yeah, i’d say so. especially in this economy and the fact alone that she has 14 kids now, 8 of which are premature and i’m SURE those medical bills are through the roof. it would be the right thing for him to do, and i’m impressed that he wants to help.

  • Yes. He is the only father these kids have, no matter how they were produced.

  • no because he was just a sperm donor

  • all done for TV…

  • No, he has no obligation.

  • He isn’t obligated, but it’s amazing that he’s offered to help. I hope he’ll be a good father for the kids.

  • No, but if he wants to, then what a nice guy. I wouldn’t want to have anything to do with her!

  • no
    the IVF doctor has a lot of moral issues though

  • @ClockworkBunny - or. he’ll just get famous

  • None, but what a terrible day that will be when he gets a letter in the mail, asking for child support!

  • If it had been me I’d have kept my mouth shut!!!

  • @relaxolgy - I hope he’s not doing it for that reason. This kind of story is something we probably won’t even remember 6 months from now. It’s a fifteen-minutes-of-fame thing, I bet.

  • No, he does not.

  • Sounds like he just wants his 15 minutes.

  • Nope. He just wants his 15 minutes of fame, just like her.

  • Keep your syrup to yourself cuz it can  become a sticky situation as in this case.

  • Nope he was just a donor. 

  • Wow. What a gentleman!!  He’s not obligated.  He may be the sperm donor and didn’t anticipate on having any responsibilities.  

  • i don’t think so, he was a sperm donor. that’s a lot different than having sex with her. though it would be nice if he did

  • No he doesn’t. Do you know how many guys going to college donated their sperm to help pay for tuition? Some have fathered hundreds. There is no way they should be legally responsible.

  • No since he just donated the sperm. Why someone would want eight kids is beyond me? He must be insane.

  • Well, whether he has a moral obligation or not… his being willing to step up, especially for EIGHT BABIES, is refreshing.

    But I think the moral obligation has more to do with the willing act of sex, not just donating sperm. Actual sperm donation I wouldn’t think is gratifying to the guy doing it like sex is… I don’t know, I guess just the intent of sex for gratification vs helping people who can’t get pregnant (even if it is for money… I mean, sperm donor pregnancies are 100% on purpose), alters his amount of obligation. Though no one was really -helping- her, just enabling her.

  • i dont think its an obligation but it is def. the morally right thing to do.

  • no, because he just donated sperm.

    of course, i’m sure many baby daddies who got their baby mommas pregnant the conventional way would like to claim the same thing and get out of child support….

  • No.

    He’s a sperm donor. He didn’t even get to make the darn things.

  • Yo, nigga, top bloggers are stealing my posts.

  • no, he didn’t fuck up her life

  • @hellaz - lmao.

    No, people who take sperm donations know that the father is not at all connected to them or the resulting children.

  • only if he wants. he just “donated” his sperm, so he has no full obligation. 

  • I don’t necessarily think that he does, I mean if they were in a relationship when that happened then yeah…He’s not really a dad just a sperm donor, I mean what if it had been a random guy… 

  • If I was a guy, I don’t know if I’d feel right knowing my biological offspring were struggling.

    All you folks who are saying he has no obligation because he’s “just a sperm donor”…  I don’t really agree with that.  The woman will always look like she has more of an obligation to the child because she can’t just donate her seed and walk away and expect a baby in nine months.  She actually has to carry the child.  But it takes an egg and sperm to create a baby, so I think both biological parents need to assume some responsibility.  If you’re a guy and you don’t want to assume that responsibility, don’t donate.  It’s pretty simple.

  • a “moral obligation” to the kids yes, but not to himself.

  • Well if he finds out he is the father, then yes!

  • He has a moral obligation to kidnap them in the middle of the night and save them from octo-mom! Ahhhh!

  • Uh, yeah. It wasn’t a random donatiion of some stranger. She knew him and he agreed to donate sperm to help get her pregnant on multiple occasions. She didn’t look through papers to find the right background of the sperm donor. She picked out the man and he agreed. They dated for two years. And he also said that he would help out if they were his kids. Sticking to his word is a moral obligation that he has. Even if they are his kids and since he was “just a donor” may not carry any sort of obligation in some people’s opinions, he still said he would be there and there’s your moral obligation right there.

  • No. He’s just a donor. If that sets precedent, then no guy will want to donate sperm!

  • No, donating a sperm does not make him a father.

  • I don’t think he is obligated to but it would be nice if he did. She could use all the help she can get. She’s saying they aren’t his though.

  • He just donated the sperm. No.

    Man. DRAMA

    but I guess if he wants to help. He could.

  • Sperm donation issues are tricky. I would have to say he isn’t legally obligated, but morally it might be the right thing to do.

    Personally, I wouldn’t. She’s proven that she’s into making bad decisions that could possibly lead to unnecessary complications.

  • No, he doesn’t have an obligation. Think about it. What about all those other men who kindly donate their sperm to a SPERM BANK? Do all those men have an obligation to take care of the child/children?

    Because a man did something nice, he has to carry a financial burden for this rest of his life? I don’t think that makes much sense. And he shouldn’t be responsible for Nadya’s craziness.

    But in this case, this guy just seems to want attention.

  • dad? what is this more news about this retarded mother? he totally wants attention from camera and ppl viewing tv news… i mean why say that now? “oh i might be the father of the octuplets that were just been born by blah blah blah… ”

  • i think he should also take the time to re-think what he’s just said… seriously… you’re not sure if they’re yours, and you wanna help raise 14 kids?

  • @popcultureref - agreed.

  • I believe if he had’ve had sex with her, then YES, he would have a moral obligation. However, since the woman chose to have kids this way, I believe all moral obligation falls on her shoulders alone, in essence. I find it respectable, if he be the “father” though, that he would be willing to help raise the family.. And I hope that it would be for the right reason.. To give these children a loving dad, and not for money or publicity.

    What a world we live in, where you have to ask such a question these days. It breaks my heart.

    <3, ~*Akarui Mitsukai*~

    :/

  • Typically sperm donation people are not required to help support the children.  He has no moral obligation to support them, especially since he wasn’t a part of deciding if she should carry all to term or do selective reduction.  Either way, he DOESN’T have to.  So, if he is…  and he helps… good for him!

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