February 28, 2009
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How To Tell If a Person Will Date You
There is an easy way for you to tell if a person will date you.
Just ask the person to do something simple that makes no sense and if the person does it, they will most likely date you.
I call this the “pencil test.” I did this in high school all the time. I would ask a girl to go sharpen my pencil for me. The “pencil test” answers the question of whether the person is responsive to you. If the person asks you why or tells you to sharpen your own pencil, chances are she won’t go on a date with you. It makes no sense if you are standing by a pencil sharpener for you to not sharpen your own pencil. But if you ask and she does it, you can then ask her out on a date.
I would also do this with getting something to drink. If I was in the cafeteria, I would ask the girl to go get me another drink. If she got up and got me the drink, she would probably date me. If she asks why you won’t get your own drink, she is probably less likely to date you.
This also works for copying homework. If a girl would let me look at her homework and copy it, she would probably date me. So just ask to see her/his homework after it is finished and then copy it.
I was telling this theory to my son about a month ago at my daughter’s birthday party. I asked a woman to go get me a cupcake. The woman had to move past all the kids and get me a cupcake before the kids got a chance to eat them. But sure enough, she went over and got me the cupcake.
Think about this for a second: If a person you find attractive asks you to do something, are you more likely to do it without question? Sure.
So to reduce the number of people that say no to you on the date issue, ask them to do something that is simple and that you could easily do for yourself.
Comments (341)
WTF? Another real blog?
Wtf, Dan!
Crap. Guys do random stuff like that for me all the time. Good thing I wouldn’t date any of them…bahahahaha.
I’ve noticed this actually :] haha
There are some guys at school that will do absolutley anything for me but others question my motives, so it’s true that’s how you know
If someone asked me to sharpen their pencil I’d probably do it without question, either way.
Better idea: If you want to know if a person will date you…ask them.
Interesting. Now would you kindly visit my site?
That’s pretty funny.
Although, I do question if that might eliminate some who would otherwise date you but don’t want to go fetch random things.
I do shit like that for everyone… and I have no intention of dating every single one of them. Sure, there are a few, but everyone that I’m nice to?
No thanks.
I like to think I’m just nice.
If I have nothing better to do or I’m feeling especially hyper, I’ll probably do anything.
wow just wow
What is this?
Dan. You’re just a question man.And a Xanga commentary man.Don’t deviate.
Amused. I ask people to do silly things for me all the time. <33
wow interesting observation
But if they’re a push over – they will do anything people tell them to do
That’s an interesting theory. I may try it out one day.
Haha, but I have a reputation for being a sarcastic asshole. If I asked someone to sharpen my pencil, they’d probably tell me to go fuck myself with it.
…:S
eh, not bad
Makes sense.
Haha I guess this is actually true, I’d do almost anything for my crush, but my guy friends I tell to do it themselves.
I don’t need to test them I already know they don’t want to date me.
@phuck_diz_shiz - You’re hot. Would you like to sharpen my pencil?
I can have it in the mail by tomorrow.
Seems to me you should just ask the person on a date. The little test is kinda wierd. Rejection is just the first step in the negotiation. Rejection twice move on, but making a mini slave first is really kinda wierd.
You just explained why I had so few dates before I met my husband (who, by the way, never asked me to do stuff like that for him).
Hmm. See, if a guy I liked asked me to do something stupid for him, I’d probably tell him to go do it himself. Then I might laugh and do it anyway… That’s if we’re already on speaking terms/friends, though. So I guess this works for random people. However, some people are just too nice to say no, so what if you get the completely wrong impression when they go do it for you but have no interest in you whatsoever? I’m making myself dizzy. It’s not like I ask anyone on dates anyway.
HAHAHA cute theory! AWESOME. But hopefully my guy friends don’t interpret things that way..or I’d be in deep shit!
@huginn - what age are you from ? who still sharpen their pencils ? we have mechanical lead pencil now
LOL IM JUST KIDDING – I’m not that mean
I’ll send you a blueberry smelly pencil – made from 100% recycled newspaper – so its ECO-FRIENDLY
i disagree b/c there’s a lot i will do for a stranger b/c i try to be a good servant, but that doesn’t mean i’d date the guy.
not to mention, looks and attractiveness are not important to me at all. i’d much rather date a guy with character and integrity. if anything, i go for the “hidden treasures”. i’d probably date the guy who was too shy to ask me for a favor; the guy being ignored in the back of the room more than any guy who was attractive or popular. 9 times out of 10 those types turn me off.
Haha that makes a ton of sense actually. Except when people ask me to do simple tasks and I’m attracted to them, I usually ask why and engage in playful banter before actually doing it (:
This is actually so true.
If they are nice to me, I’d do it for them. I haven’t thought of the “pencil test” before… good job!
This reminds me of the Dave Chappelle episode where he does Rick James.
“Bitch get me a drink! I’m Rick James Bitch!”
All this time he was just trying to find a date…
Brilliant
doit yerself jeeeez fynda nuther way to geta date
I think you’re onto something
Wow I never even thought of that.
Haha. Interesting. It makes sense, but there are also people who would do random things for people regardless. And then there are people like me, who would do random things for other people, depending on who the person is/what the task is, even if they don’t necessarily want to go out with him/her.
hmmm… very interesting. it sounded crazy at first, but as i thought about it, it totally makes sense. a person with no interest or care for you would not go out of their way to do something for you and therefore they are not worth dating anyways.
hermm.. i should try this out.. cuz people could do things just cuz they’re nice yknow… but… we’ll see.. hahaha
Wow, I can’t believe I’ve never thought of that. That’s a really good idea. A really good idea.
but i use MECHANICAL PENCILS.
i’m definitely going to start asking for more favors.
not the scandalous kind… baby steps, of course.
Except I think I might no longer be attracted to them if they did that…
this idea has holes in it. for me it would just depend on who was asking and what my mood was. overall i tend to be a helpful person but sometimes im just gonna tell you to go get it yourself or whatever.
Never thought about that before.
That’s cool.
lol!!! good advice
This is to make up for that real blog last time eh? ;P
“Go make me a sammich, Woman.”
Huh, never noticed that. Then again, I never really ask people to get me cupcakes or sharpen pencils. Maybe it’s time to start.
Haaaaaahahahaha. This is the best thing of all the things. I’ll have to do this sometime.
I am definantly going to keep this in mind
“Will you sharpen my pencil?”
Sure. (I like the noise the machine makes)
“Will you get me a drink”
Sure. (I need to get up and pee anyway)
“Can I copy your homework?”
No. (Fuck you)
“Will you get me a cupcake?” (guest at a party I’m hosting)
Sure. (I’m being a gracious hostess).
Yeah, none of those are in any way related to whether I want to date someone.
I don’t care how head over heels I am for you, God gave you legs just the same as he gave me. Get off your butt and sharpen your own damned pencils.
That’s probably the attitude that made most guys stay away from me in high school. LoL.
i prefer to cut straight to the chase and just pull up beside them and say,,, hey baby,,, hop on my bike and lets go for a ride,,,,
i dunno about dating tho,,, ill just take them for a ride,,,, a date sounds like moneys to be spunt,,,,
@Tom@revelife - Haha. I am such an ass. I probably wouldn’t sharpen a pencil for anyone unless I was already sharpening one for myself, regardless of who asks.
Even if my beloved Alex Gaskarth asked me to sharpen a pencil, I’d still probably be like “Pssh, do it yourself, lazy.”
“Bitch, will you get me a god damned beer?”
I tend to make people do their own shit regardless of whether or not I find them attractive/dateable.
A guy asked me to get his paper for him and I said yes, but then afterwards I was like “why did I say yes? freaking jerk what am I his slave?!?”
It’s funny how mad I was afterwards now that I think about it…
Oh oh and then once I asked this guy I had a crush on to do “the monkey” dance and he totally did it. XD Does that count?
This is a clever theory you came up with, Dan. I actually think this is true. But it would depend how they are asking me. If they said it nicely (weather they were attractive or not) I would probably say sure.
agreed! when the guy i liked asked me to do something, i did it within a heartbeat !
this test would result in failure with me. I would do stupid things for people depending on my mood and not whether I was attracted to them or not.
this is kind of interesting. I may have to put it to the test.
I like this post and agree with it a lot. I just never gave it much thought. Good stuff!
yuck! guys who ask you to get their drinks are usually whiney assholes.
no offense, danny boy. but i don’t generally like guys that play mind tricks on my poor head.
i wouldve never thought of that!
I’ll try it the next time I want to go out with a guy.
Very clever.
thats actually a really insightful… never thought about it. i think id totally be the one who fit the mold.
I have much to learn from u master
@phuck_diz_shiz - push-overs would most likely be easily pushed into a date.
Dan you are an utter genious–if I wasn’t married already I think I would go sharpen your pencil for you.
BTW–a guy brought up the same theory a while back but he called it the purse theory–he told me that if a guy was going to go out of his way to carry my purse, especially a girly one, then he was into me–and although it’s not 100% I think he had a point, and you seem to clarify that point even better.
hmm prolly doesnt work all the time but thats a good observation interestin imma ahve to field test this piece yadadayee ahah
I was worried when you mentioned the pencil test, girls do a different kind of pencil test, totally unrelated.
I think that all of the other ploys will work except for the homework one. It depends on the morals the person has. It’s cheating. Getting a drink for someone, sharpening their pencil, or getting them a cupcake isn’t something that you can wind up in punishment for. And one must also take in the factor that that person may just be that nice of a person. If someone asked me to go get them something that they can wait in line for themselves, most of the time I will do it just because that’s the type of person I am. I’m nice beyond what nice should be to people when I was in school. Just because someone does something nice for someone doesn’t mean that they will go out with you or be more inclined to go out with you. It all depends on the type of person they are and who you are yourself. I’m not saying this approach won’t work though. For me, it wouldn’t.
Another fantastic blog entry Dan.
Seems to me that your school tests of girls will only get a response from particulalry submissive girls. That is alright in itself but reduces the range and indeed, will repulse girls who don’t like to see thelmselves as the dogsbody of a guy.
i dunno about this dan.
i never sharpened anyone’s pencils if they asked me to, not even friends.
i would get you something to drink in the cafeteria.
and i only let friends and gang members copy off me because it meant protection when walking through certain parts of school.
Surely one criteria for the girls to respond one way or the other is whether you had any lead in your pencil.
Why do you share this stuff now. I needed this information before I got married
…i’ve just walked round the city centre of my home-town asking girls to sharpen my pencil.
I got some funny looks. Does that mean they might like me?
I do these things usually because I’m a gentleman, not only for teh hot chix.
that is actually very true
gotta say, Dan, I agree with you on a lot…but the girls who you’ve tried to date–who would sharpen your pencil, get your drink, or let you copy off their work–were all submissive, weak women who didn’t respect themselves or understand what a real relationship entails.
Wow, I don’t think I’d do the first two things for anybody! lol Must be the reason why I’m single. lol
@playdoughKID -
i question everything, so its not a good indicator for me. but still interesting.
now guys will get sued for sexual harassment when asking a girl to sharpen their pencils.
I wouldnt date you.
Ill be damned if a guy asked me to sharpen his pencil or get him a drink. I dont get bossed around that easily. Now…..if he was my bf already, Ill do it All and more.
He needs to go sharpen his own pencil or get his own drink and Ask me if I need anything.
So you were a lil playboy back in the days huh THEOLOGIAN? Good job. But, too bad for those loser girls who fell for your trickery.
wow that’s impressive!
i never thought of it like that.
hmmm…
Haha, Dan, you’re a genius.
Your son’s gonna be a pimp.
Does this mean if someone won’t comment you, that also is a sign they wouldn’t date you?
If so, me and you must be sought-after men. Lawlz.
Oh wow! A second real post! And it’s about dating too!
I’ve never really thought about this. I have lived in a culture where the males do everything for the females, whether they wanted to date them or not. And of course I’ve lived here, where the guys look at you crazy if you ask them to do something for you. Turn it around and it makes more sense since girls are more likely trying to please the guys.
I’m about to go on a double date soon, later this afternoon, actually. I’ll test out this theory – but I hope he won’t laugh at me and tell me do it myself… in front of the other two people.
(Also, I’m taking this as another sign!) <– gosh, I’m so lame LOL
ha that does make sense I suppose but then if you respect them you are more likely to do favours for them anyway and not have any incentive towards it.
The only thing I wonder though is how you work with those that already go out of their way to do simple things like that for everyone.
Is there a second test that you do if you know the girl is nice to lots of people?
Sounds like “game playing” to me. Sort of a schemer are you Dan? Actually this does not surprise me, but it never would have occurred to me.
I would say that is close to being accurate, but I also know how I am. I am a natural “server.” I look for ways to help people. It doesn’t always mean that I would go out with that person. On the other hand, if a certain someone (my choice) asked me to do something, I would make sure I did my best to accomplish the task. Example: I would get the coffee and bring back a fresh homemade cookie besides.
I definitely agree for the most part. Although I’m the type of person that will gladly do things for others even if I don’t like them much. Though I guess I’d be more eager to do something for them if I was attracted to them.
Dan, Dan, Dan…you’re old enough to know that nice guys finish last. You may get a few dates this way, but not much else.
You’ve become the dating guru!
This seems more like a test for seeing who would be a pushover. LOL when I was a kid I was a bit of a pushover but I prefer to think that maybe I wouldn’t be one now. LOL
Wow, that is interesting… Where have simple ideas like this been all my life? lol
Sounds clever…
I think I will try that pencil trick one day.
Thank’s.
you must be really attractive for girls to do that for you
i disagreed with your entire blog entry except the last sentence u saved yourself.
Probably the same theory that Obama is applying to see if he could rule the world.
That’s actually a good idea. Huh. Whaddaya know?
the pencil test?
“Hey Sarah, would you please bend over and pick that up for me?”
“Sure!”
things that make you go hmmm….
@the_evil_tamica - ouch.
@la_faerie_joyeuse - I knew that you would say something like this. I was even going to mention you, but decided to comment first w/o mentioning you, then see if you commented.
I approve.
It depends on the person I think…my ex would totally be like “get your own muffin” at first (I’d do the same to him) but if I really wanted one, he’d do it.
You naughty boy! But that doesn’t always work on stubborn gurls….(smiling)
Haha. I guess it is true at least to some degree.
Sounds good in theory but my ex always asked everyone to do everything for her. So I would probably see that as a sign of laziness now.
I don’t completely agree. You said that if the person asks why, they are unlikely to want to date you. If the guy I currently like asked me to sharpen his pencil, I would ask why. I might even tell him to sharpen his own pencil (we’re used to the banter).. I don’t know. But that certainly doesn’t mean I wouldn’t date him. However, if someone asked me to do something simple like sharpen his pencil when he could easily do it, I might take it as he was trying to use me or something. That’s not a good idea.
On the other hand, I do think you have a good point overall, though I’m not sure it’s the best test to use.
It’s so stupid. It’s so brilliant. Why didn’t I think of this before?
I don’t like it. I’d feel like a jerk if I did it, like I was taking advantage of her liking me. No offense.
There’s a thing called “courtesy” or doing someone a “favor.” Not to be confused with “I’m crazy about you.”
@weakerlink - GENIUS!
LOL… That’s very enlightening…..No wonder I get asked out so much and then have to wonder what I did to make the guy think I wanted to date him… hee hee……..When someone asks me to do something for them if I can do it, I always do. It Doesn’t even occur to me to wonder why they would need me to sharpen a pencil if they are standing next to the sharpener. You might want to remember that just because a girl is nice does not always mean she wants to date you. Some of us simply enjoy people and don’t mind helping out when we can……… ~Echo
That actually makes sense in a weird way.
I know I would definitely do something for someone if i’m attracted. This is a great idea, Wish I knew this earlier.
@mayanao – true, that’s a possibility too
I never even thought about that. Well, now, that basically answers a question I had about a boy liking me.
i like this idea dan. keep this shit up.
@Tom@revelife - But why would you want to date someone who doesn’t fetch things for you? They don’t say a dog is a man’s best friend for nothing.
Also, extremely useful and relevant blog, Dan. I’m totally using this from now on; thanks!
Good rule. But, some of us are generally kind and would be glad to serve others. So, it doesn’t always work the best.
That’s clever, Dan.
hmm. i’m curious about this theory but there is nobody i’m interested in dating right now.
lol no offense, but the way you make it sound, you make it sound like those girls are your bitches.
That’s not true! I’ve let a lot of people copy my homework before, and by no means would I date any of them.
And if the guy I would date asked me to sharpen his pencil, I would probably tell him to go puck himself. Or, if a guy I didn’t like/or wouldn’t go on a date with asked me if I could sharpen his pencil nicely, I probably would.
I’m just nice to friends, and a bitch to my “crushes”.
I can see how this would work though. It is funny to me that you would do this though, it just strikes me as odd. @litoaznbabi501 - I wouldn’t have said it like that, but I kinda agree.
“Hey, would you take your shirt off for me?” A simple request I make, but its success rate is disappointing.
Haha, brilliant. Kudos.
I don’t think that works……
When guys ask me to do stuff like that, even if I would date them, it kind of annoys me, because they are so capable of sharpening their own pencil or getting their own drink. It’s not a good indicator.
Hmmm….Unless you’re like me, and you just do stuff when people ask you to, regardless. I’d probably just figure there was some strange reason they were disinclined to sharpen their own dang pencil…maybe they have a pencil-sharpener phobia…how should I know? Seems, like it’d be rude to ask, you know? And I’m very picky about who I date. So perhaps the theory isn’t quite so all-emcompassing…it does make a lot of sense though. Weird requests to do things that people have given me in the past are coming to mind now. agh.
I noticed this phenomena when I was in grade school. Boys would ask me to ridiculously absurd things (like sharpen their pencils).
NO, this is not reliable unless you are in grade school! Seriously!
I would happily do something nice for anyone, like them or not, I am a nice person who believes in treating those around me with courtesy. I would not date just anyone though.
There is a WHOLE lot more to dating than asking someone to do something silly. You know… like eye contact, conversation, body language….
Asking someone to do something silly might be considered a flirting technique… so use it if you must.
You can in no way count on it to tell you who is going to say yes or no, though.
Aha.
Well, one of my guy friends always asks for little favors like that, and I do ‘em without questioning.
Doesn’t mean I’d date him. xD
Doesn’t also depend on the way you ask it?
Delivery…
so true
I actually disagree with this! XD lol…
When guys demand that I do something for them when they could do it themselves (and these are guys I would date), I’m like, “No!” because I want to show them that I actually have a brain and standards enough that I won’t let them push me around. There are exceptions of course, like if we’re both just as far away from the punch and he asks me to get him some and he’s sort of where he can’t get it himself. And sometimes, I volunteer to pick up his plate or something. Sometimes, when I refuse, they’re impressed and have actually told me so.
this is pretty funny. sounds like your just being lazy but i get it. there was this kid in my bio class that i’d always do this kind of stuff for. lol :p
I will keep this in mind at work lol
i disagree.
i have done stuff like that for people i would absolutely not date.
and i have refused to do stuff like that for people i absolutely would have dated. in fact i think as a rule i’m more likely to do it for people i’m not interested in and less likely to do it for people i AM intersted in.
i agree with @jediwa72 - its better to just ask them.
That’s quite a funny theory you got there.
I have done this to people many a time, it’s absolutely true.
I think that actutally makes some sense.
wow i agree, and it’s true. haha
i’m the person that’ll do something for somebody purely out of service to them, and in essence, God. it doesn’t mean i’d date them, because i probably wouldn’t.
haha I used to do this! When some guy would say no or ask questions, I would say “That was a test, and you just failed.” Then I would nonchalantly walk away.
What if a girl is playing hard to get ?
One night, I asked the dude I like if I could try on his coat. He shrugged and said ok. Then I asked if he would take a picture of me in it with my camera. He shrugged and took the picture.
Considering we don’t even say hi to each other in the halls, is this a sign of “Hey, I’d date you” or “Indulge the crazy person before they bite and give me rabies” ?
Damn if I was feeling lazy that day I wouldnt get a cake/drink/pencil for ANYBODY man :X
this is all kinds of awful!! all i see is that you only dated push-overs.
Reality.
if the guy i found attractive asked me to do a meaningless task, i would honestly probably tell him to do it himself. i’d be teasing him and flirty probably, but i still wouldn’t go through with it. if he can do it himself. he can do it himself.
interesting way of looking at it.
Hmm… I can see the logic here. Might have to test this out for myself. Thanks!
LOL THAT MADE ME LAUGH!
Awesome.
Sure, makes sense to me ^^
According to Chris Rock, a woman can decide in the first 10s of meeting you, whether if she will sleep with you.. much similar to men, but longer time, i assume..? haha..The person asking must be foremost, be perceived as dateable for her to say yes.
haha awesome. but what if that person says no–is it embarassing? i’d imagine it could go both ways?
(oh and did you go to high school in houston/hisd?)
I would probably laugh and say “do it yourself” but whether the laugh was a laugh of derision or a flirtatious laugh would give you a clue about whether to ask me out or not.
ahhh…i learned something new today!
Or they could just be a really nice person. My male friends & female friends will do stuff like that for me, because we’re FRIENDS, not because their interested. Or maybe someone would do it because their a pushover. Either way, doesn’t prove anything.
I find that simply saying ‘I find you intriguing…how about dinner and a show?’ works pretty good, too! And you don’t have to break your pencil tip before asking!
One thing’s for certain. THAT girl isn’t going to have any lack of offers!
These are compliance tests. You do them during seduction to find out at what stage the person you are generating attraction with is at. If they comply you give an IOI which makes them feel good. Then you escalate.
Eventually you might have sex. There is other stuff before that.
I don’t necessarily agree. I mean, I’m just a nice person (read: pushover) so, if someone random, attractive or otherwise, would ask me to sharpen their pencil or get a cupcake, I probably would. Probably not the drink thing, though- especially if I had to pay for it. Also, if someone asked me to do something, and I smiled and asked why don’t they do it themselves, and then cause them a teasing name, I’m probably trying to flirt.
Maybe it has less to do with whether or not the person will date you and more to do with whether or not the person will let you walk on them when you are clearly capable of doing something yourself.
so? my dad would often give me trash for me to throw away while I’m up. doesn’t mean he wants to date me.
I really wasn’t thinking straight one time. but once at college I asked a random guy really close to me to cross my name off a list instead of saying “Excuse me” and crossing my name off myself. He did it, and I found out later he’s married now.
I dunno, whenever people would ask me to do simple things I assumed it was because they were being lazy. And me doing those things for them didn’t necessarily mean that I would date them, just that I’m too nice.
so basically if a woman acts like your bitch she would date you? great test. awesome thing to teach your son.
I guess that makes me a very datable person or just nice. Unless, I find this guy a douche bag I probably do those simple favor if he asked.
I’m a nice person. I’ll help people with random things!!!
Brilliant. I am going right out and do this very thing!
Haha. Is it all really that simple?
this is a great technique….. but i think he’s doing it a little wrong. asking someone to serve you won’t work with certain people, even if they are into you. try instead asking them to do something a little nonsensical, or cute.
for example…..i was in class taking notes and i drew a humpback whale on my paper. i passed it over to the girl sitting next to me and asked her if she could draw a better one. she wrote back that she did. i then told her to go ahead. she said she was gonna take it home and draw it for me. now, she’ll probably forget by the time she gets home…. but just that was proof enough for me that she was responsive.
makes sense.
im going to try it.
Some people will do it just cause they’re nice. If someone I don’t know very well asks me to grab them something (and it was on my way), I would probably do it. Doesn’t mean I would date them!
i guess no one would ever ask me on a date agaain if they read this. im not a pushover. and silly games like this are well, sillly.
I’m sorry, but I completely disagree with your whole theory.
there must be a whole lot of people that find a pencil drawing pretty darn attractive
lmao..What an ignorant blog.
I was at MY daughters birthday party and asked a GUEST to get me a cupcake… She did it son! She likes me! See!?
What the fuck… Dumbass.
@Nope_Ive_Never - Finally someone with some common sense? Or perhaps someone who isnt 10 years old?
personally, it would depend on the situation and the “relationship” i have the with person. if some random guy asked me to sharpen his pencil, even if i thought he was attractive, i’d think to myself, “wtf? who do you think you are? and who do you think i am?”
i’d be less likely to date the person because i’d get the impression that he thought he was hot shit and could get girls to do shit for him.
and if i did do it, for a random guy, i’d still be thinking the same thing.
now, if we had been flirting and hit it off on some level, sure. or if we were good friends, sure…but that also doesnt mean i’d date him.
Well, I pretty much would ask Why to any of those things regardless of whether I liked them or not. I mean hell, sure I’m crushing on you but I might not be anymore if you can’t sharpen your own damn pencil, you.
XD
I’d probably even be more likely ask Why if I did like them, just to start a random conversation on your Pencil Sharpening Disabilities. Oh the wonder.
but Dan… will you do a post for me? because I have lots of girls around me… I ask them to do something (yes, I did your test!), and they do, but they won’t date me! What’s up with this?
so if someone does little chores for you they’d date you? i would never sharpen anyones pencil or get them a drink, even if i did like them…to be perfectly honest
This is not true.
An independent woman, or a girl that is NOT a doormat, will NOT get you a fucking cupcake…
oddly, this makes sense.
Hahaa, so totally true.
I think this only works with certain personalities… there are people who will be accommodating to everyone’s requests and there are people who will be bitchy even to the people they like
interesting………
what if i ask her to tie my shoelace?would that work??
nice, the meaning of life and everything that is good is carried out in this xanga blog ~
More like the person is just more likely to take orders. I think asking people to get you stuff isn’t the best way to determine if someone will date you. Maybe just TALK to someone to determine if they are someone who would date you rather than order them around. Honestly I would probably ask why they can’t get their own drink/cupcake, etc regardless of who asks (unless of course they are handicapped or elderly or a child of course). And I NEVER let people cheat and copy my work.
very interesting! i’m not sure if that’s always the case, since i tend to be attracted to the strong, opinionated, sarcastic type. but maybe.
I employed this technique a lot when I was a bit younger. Usually in a party environment, I’d ask a girl to grab me a beer, even though it’s obvious that I can just as easily grab said beer myself. Although ironically, I found it more effective to deny girls their
random requests if I was interested in them, because it usually
resulted in them chasing me even harder. Girls love a challenge
In the end though, it’s not really proof. Just learn to read people’s reactions, it’s not hard.
if i was interested in someone and they asked me to sharpen their pencil or do something silly for them, i would tell them to do it themselves and not be lazy. honestly, i might even laugh at them. unless, they were cripled or had something broken and actually couldn’t.
@snashy13 - AMEN!
Me: Hey would you give me a blowjob?
Her: Why? Give yourself a blowjob!
Me: I guess you wouldn’t date me either huh? ^.^”
I get your logic.
Haha, this is so true I have to say.
I worry about the “douche” factor inherent in such requests.
Very intelligent technique. Not only it would give you an idea of how attracted she is to you but also would give you an idea about her personality and nature. Now all you ladies, would you get me a glass of water please?
HHAHAHAHA From experience, I think I agree.
I always ask why, hahah… no matter what.
And I do stuff like this for guys all the time mainly because most of my friends are guys and they would do the same for me. But, by no means would I date all my guy friends. We do stupid stuff for each other all the time. Sure, it has some type of meaning they’re like my big brothers. But, nothing as far as attraction goes.. and I’m not gonna lie many of my friends have had crushes on me but it happens. I usually talk to the guys who are shy and strike up a conversation because for one I don’t consider myself hot, I’m not any better than them, and because they are shy, alone, not talking to anyone. I loathe big shots so, that’s probably why. I don’t like attention myself so why seek a relationship with someone who feeds off of it. I had this one nerdy-ish (ugly) guy completely fall in love with me (according to his 10 pg letter) because I was the first girl he ever had a real conversation with. I felt so happy that I spoke to him all the time but at the same time I was sad because I couldn’t return the feelings he developed for me…
So, in terms of strangers. I am nicer to the ugly people than I am to the good looking people, so if a hot guy and an ugly guy were to ask me for the same favor I would probably do what the ugly guy says. Mainly because I’m sure the hot guy always gets what he wants, granted… so why not make a not so attractive guy happy? Same goes for the female strangers, although I never really interact with females on account that they suck, for the most part I do what the ugly girls say.
So, I think this theory might be true for some people but, not me.
I guess I work backwards.
lol yet true but then again what if you think someone is attractive and you ask them for there phone number and they give it to you but later the next day when you decide to call them and leave a message to call back but they don’t call back? uh huh. lol or does it just pertain to getting them to do something else such as buy you a drink or sharpen your pencil?
Except there are a lot of people I would do anything for, who I wouldn’t date. I think it works the other way better…if he/she doesn’t do something pointless for you, they most likely won’t date you. Interesting theory though…
THANK YOU for this!
Wow, this is very interesting. I will have to try it sometime. Never really noticed it, but now that I look back…My boyfriend did a lot of little things for me before we started dating, but then again, we also work together…and everyone helps out each other at work. We’re all a good team…Hmm…we’ll see…
Interesting, i like it. i’m more of a serious dater, but this still is a very simple, yet telling thing to do.
Hmm.. Never really thought about it that way…. Now that I do… it does make sense, unless the person is just naturally a kind person.
@randomneuralfirings - No.
well okay.
you ask your guy friend to do those things for you.
hahah
maybe those are true.
i do things for people everyday without asking why
unless it involves me jumping off a bridge
Haha, true.
I felt disturbed by this (no, not because you’ve deviated from your normal format.) It bothers me that in order to gauge whether or not a person will go out with you, you’d have to ask for something stupid. If a guy came up to me and asked that, my first thought would be one of two: why can’t you do it yourself, and, why are you asking me? Maybe I’m just not nice enough, but… shouldn’t you just ask someone instead of stooping to strangeness? Great that it worked for ya – but I find it baffling.
i think it’s going to be useful, thanks for sharing
Are u like back in high school or something, come on Dan! Sometimes people do things just because, it doesn’t have to mean that they would date you (or anyone for that matter). Misty
People who will do random tasks for you without questioning why you would do it for yourself clearly are either already attracted to you, a good friend, a complete pushover, or something similar.
Therefore, it’s most likely that you WILL get a “yes” if you ask them out.
Here’s the problem.
If you onyl ask out the people you can control easily, where is the equality in teh relationship?
It would be less like having a relationship and more like having a chain of servant girls.
Which may be fine for you, but some guys want something different.
Thus; my warning.
Don’t be afraid to ask out the girls who won’t sharpen your pencil for you.
These are the girls who question things that don’t make sense, who will bring playful banter, wittiness, and jokes into play when conversing with you….these are the girls who are more likely to believe in equal rights and fairness in the world.
This doesn’t mean she won’t go out with you, like you, maybe even love you.
It just means that she won’t let you trample all over her.
Simple test, yes.
But it’s not necessarily a test of what you meant it to be.
Good luck, boys.
Kudos, Dan! That makes a lot of sense. I’ll try it out ever I’m ever dating again.
@FallenReign - You may not date them, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t want to date you. Which is the point Dan is making.
this is overly complicated.
just ask the girl out.
besides, if i asked a girl if she wanted to sharpen my pencil, she’d probably take it the wrong way.
@middlegirl92 - I don’t think Dan did these tests to see if the girl would be will to do stuff for him like a “slave”. Like he clearly states at the beginning “The ‘pencil test’ answers the question of whether the person is responsive to you.” I don’t think he said, “The ‘pencil test’ answers the question of whether or not the girl will be at your beck and call 24/7″
Just sayin…
@woodrowwilson - HAHAHA. That’s awesome.
@phuck_diz_shiz - Oh man…your comment about the mechanical pencil just cracked me up… I am 29 years old and I haven’t used conventional pencil for at least past 10 years… I think last time I used pencils was when I was taking my SAT…=)
I don’t think so – a lot of people say yes just to be polite.
some people are pretty analytical. They want a reason for everything. I know I want a reason for most things, even if a girl I liked asked me to give her a pencil.
Makes sense!
That is really degrading. Some people just have a harder time saying no than others. Taking advantage of someone who is a doormat when it comes to stupid favors is kind of cruel and doesn’t necessarily indicate anything about his/her personality.
I don’t think this’ll work if someone did it on me. I question everything normally.
lol. that;s interesting. x’D
Weird. As a Southern-raised girl, I kind of expect men to be chivalrous and do those sorts of things for me, not the other way around.
And I’m the random sort of person that I’d pretty much do random things for anyone I liked as a friend, it doesn’t mean I’d go out with him. Nice theory, though
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I am not too sure about this “theory”…I think I would only get you that cupcake or sharpen your pencil half the time, the other half I would be mean and give you witty remarks on why I would not do it….ha ha ha ha
: )
I’ll try and see what happens. It’s worth a shot right???
: )
Hmmm…I don’t think this will work for me.
If someone ask me to do something simple and I’m capable of doing it, I will help. No probs for me but it doesn’t mean I like the person.
Maybe I’m just to much of a nice person and not a typical girl…lol
@phuck_diz_shiz - Ha, that’s me! The pushover. I wouldn’t necessarily date the person to which I’m doing the favor. Good idea though, Dan! xD
that’s not a completely reliable test…sometimes demanding irrational tasks like sharpening a pencil when you’re standing by the sharpener makes you seem like a jerk. no one wants to date a jerk.
What if your a girl? How can you tell if a guy will date you, a guy that possibly could only be in it for ass?
Thats my situation right now and im SO confused!
Deep
There’s been a lot of “pencil” tests apparently. And I actually tried this out. I asked someone to do something I very well could have done on my own. He did it without question and it was great. I smiled b/c I remembered this post, lol. Gotta kick it up a notch!
Cool!!! I’m totally going to try that!!!
I’m not sure the pencil trick is always correct, i mean i know a girl at school that would never say no to going out with this one guy called mark but she’d prob say no to sharping his pencil
a lot of girls/boys will say no cause they think the boy/girl is being lazy or will just not want to do it them selfs… it doesn’t mean they dont like you.. but i can see if someone said yes it could mean they like you. but it could just mean their being very kind (:
Hahahaha.
I’ve noticed this pattern. XD
you my friend, IZ (with a z) a genius.
although it sounds kind of logically, theres still exceptions. Sometimes whether i feel like doing something nice for someone or not depends on my mood. Other time i can remember when someone i had a crush on asked me to do something for them and id say no as a way of flirting. I do think you could probably do this as a “test” but dont base decisions only off this outcome.
This is ridiculous.
huh. user! haha
omg thats kewl..i never knew that…lolzZ..good to know…good to know..
If a hot guy asked me to sharpen his pencil I’d say sharpen your own.. most likely depending on the situation I want to date someone who knows how to do stuff on their own..
Thats the funniest thing ive read all day.
make lots of sense.
i read this, and then i was like, “no way.”
but then when i really think about it, it actually does make sense. xD
XD
Happens all the time.
= D
i dont think so..if it was extremely inconvienient then i prolly wouldnt even do it for someone i did like. then again, i would do it for someone i didnt like either.
people ask me to get them a beer or run to the store or something like that, ill do it. it feels good to be nice (karma), regardless if ur attracted to a person or not
it’s the benjamin franklin theoryy
This is especially true with guys…it is almost sad…
The pencil test isn’t exactly foolproof because of people like me who just can’t say no. But if you’re good at reading body language, you would be able to tell.
Haha… This reminds me of the times when random guys would volunteer to do stuff for me and I’d get suspicious an say things like, “Okay but I don’t have any money to give you, you know.” lol
That’s so true.
haha, if someone couldn’t get off their ass and sharpen their own damn pencil i wouldn’t date them.
Perhaps more likely in some cases, but it really depends on the person being asked…fun to consider, though.
Girls aren’t your fucking slaves! it has nothing to do with dating you, why the hell should a girl half to go do something to see if you can date her? and what is this grade school? who the hell dates someone based on wether or not you sharpen their pencils???
wow
sharpen your pencil eh?
Hmmm…that is food for thought. I don’t think I’d ever thoguht about it like that. Then again I would’ve been the girl saying “Hey, I’m going to get a cupcake. Do you want one?” And even then I’m not sure it would mean that I’d date you.
I was raised in the south and some things like that just come across to me as good manners…especially when one is in company. Definitely food for thought.
Genius! I’ll try it ASAP!
wow i am seriously gonna try this
Fabulous!
If a person you find attractive asks you to do something, are you more likely to do it without question?
My answer is no. I’d ask more if the person is attractive. If not, I probably would not mind asking questions.
I’m the type who almost always asks for reasons first before I do some things other people would ask me to do. Sharpening pencils are no big deal, but if the guy asks to let him copy my homework or asks me to go get him a drink, I might oblige *but I’d be turned off*. The more I would not date that person.
jejeje nice theory
i have never realized that
this guy i liked last year,
when he’d ask for gum, he’d be the only one id give it too.
but yet he showed no interest in me..
epic fail for me
I don’t know about that… I’ve always been the coquette type…if a guy were to ask me to do something dumb that he could easily do for himself, I would have told him so, even if I had a crush on him. (Of course, I’m thinking more in the past as I am married now and have a definite crush on my hubby only! But if he were to ask me to do something dumb, I probably would do it for him depending on what it was. So maybe I just never had any real crushes before him, lol.)
props. thanks for the tip.
good to know
- rise n shine
If a person whom I am attracted to suddenly asks me to do something when he can move his own ass, I’ll kindly decline. Any woman you can get this way shouldn’t be worth your time, trust me. Depends on your taste, I guess. Unless this is sarcasm, but I doubt it. And I’m too lazy to read through the comments to see if it is.
>.< The guy I like asked me to do something that I felt sure would turn into a perverted joke somehow, and I didn’t feel like doing it. I was probably sending some wrong signal. xD
How To Tell If a Person Will Date You…
Why don’t you ask, dumm ass!
that’s hilarious!
Isn’t it kinda weird that you asked a woman at your child’s birthday party…. assuming you’re married. According to that theory:
1.) She’s interested in you, a married man.
2.) You’re scoping out the territory.
Hmmmm…
This entry is just as mind-boggling as why everyone somehow knows your first name and calls you by it.
I’d like a cupcake too.
This honestly disgusts me. Any girl who would sharpen your pencil or get you a drink (unless you’re injured, etc.) WOULD probably date you… and she probably has no respect for herself either. And if you want to get into a relationship with only women who have way more respect for you than herself… well, that’s your issue.
Snap. It makes sense, but I do stuff like that for people all the time without thinking about it.
can’t you argue that people do things they don’t want to out of the sake of keeping a harmonious relationship? or to avoid awkwardness?
wow… it was sort of interesting but I don’t think this theory would work all the time for everyone!
so simple.. so brilliant!
So that’s why all these girls tell me to sharpen my own pencil…
The problem with the tips presented in this entry is that if the person that you get to do the pencil sharpening is a friend, then they might just be trying to be a good friend and not see you as more than such.
@jediwa72 - Amen to that! *high five*
would it be mean if i tested this and if it worked and they accepted a date, i would tell them sorry, it was just research?
thanks for sharing . it do makes sense , will try that out too !
i dont think they work on every single girl
probably the ones who have dignity -_-
This is crap. My Dr asked me to off the air-conditioner because he was simply too fat and lazy to walk like 2metres to get to the air-con remote. I off the air-con for him; no questions asked, but that doesn’t mean I find him attractive and that I’ll go out with him (if he asked)! Like over my dead body!
I’d look at him funny and try to figure out why he’s so lazy he can’t do it himself. Not interested in lazy men. Good thing the one I’ve got is not lazy.
@jediwa72 - Funny, that’s what I said too!
kewl!
im giving this a try
Hahhaa I wouldn’t date most of the people who I let copy my homework. There’s some who I wouldn’t mind, but most of them? Naaaah.
But I can see where this logic would apply. Interesting observation – should test it out on the cute guy from my 8am class
i never thought of it that way.. but i shall be using it from now on. Often times, this probably won’t apply to relationships that are more mature, but who knows, love makes you do crazy things.
@Pawleeen - well you don’t have to ask them for a date, it’s just a test of IF they would date you, right?
clever
Haha- I’m going to have to disagree on this one. If someone I liked asked me to go sharpen their pencil for them, I would smile at them and tell them to sharpen their own pencil, and while they’re at it, here’s mine…. lol. I guess I’m attracted to guys who don’t ask me to be their little go-fer?
But if I’m up already and sharpening mine, sure…let’s make this efficient!
Excellent advice! Good test.
Eh, I’m more willing, but if a guy asks me to sharpen his pencil while he’s standing right next to the sharpener or get him a drink when I’m not already getting one for myself, I’d just think he was being lazy and arrogant. Not attractive qualities. I’d never ask a guy to do such things….If I did them on my own, that’s another matter.
Woah I’ve been trying this all week and apparently there are very few people who wouldn’t date me.
Ok I’m just kidding.
But that makes sense.
@amli2005 - Exactly.
i would tell anyone to get it themselves or ask why just because i’m like that, not because i wouldn’t date them
Shoot, that actually makes a lot of sense.
what if they did what you requested only because the person they were really attracted to was present to the area you asked them to go to and it only gave them an excuse to start up a conversation over there?
I’ve done it.
Well then I’m not likely to date a lot of people. I’m pretty much always like do it yourself or why can’t you do it? I’m not about to get my lazy butt up and walk across the room when you’re capable.
It’s also a nice indicator of whether or not that person is susceptible to hypnotic suggestion and easily manipulated into performing all kinds of tasks for you – meaningless, absurd, illegal or otherwise.
not the best advice… what if the person is just a nice person… will that person date you because they are nice… no… there are other signals that you don’t have to initiate if you want to check if dating is a possibility
What if the person is genuinely nice?
Hmmm….I would say that is still kinda iffy…
I would get up and do things for anyone…if they were already in the middle of something. However, even with the boy i liked, if he asked me to get up and do something and he wasn’t engaged in anything himself, i would tell him to get his own cupcake. But, I’m probably a minority, I don’t like the feeling of being used. And I feel that if a guy wants to date me, he would offer to get me a cupcake.
Guess it does depend on the person…. but I’d as easily do something for a friend as for someone I would date. Now, if this person was someone I just didn’t like… it’s unlikely I’d sharpen their pencil for them if they were right there… but they would all ready know I don’t like them.
1- if anyone asked me to sharpen their pencil for them i’d ask why they couldn’t do it themselves.. i don’t care if brad pitt is asking me.
2- if anyone asked me to go get them a drink i’d ask why they couldn’t do it themselves too.. i mean i’d probably get it wether i wanted to date you or not, but i’d still ask why. deffinately has nothing to do with my chances of dating you.
3- i’d let almost anyone.. with the exception of people i cant stand.. copy my homework.
“Think about this for a second: If a person you find attractive asks you to do something, are you more likely to do it without question? Sure.”
umm, nope. if im friends with someone i’m more likely to do something for them. attractiveness plays no role in it.
lol. it does work.
Good theory, but what if you’re just a nice person?
i’d sharpen the pencil, then keep it for myself, i hate lazy guys.
Dunno if this is a joke or not.. but many girls might get the impression you’re a jerk if you do this.. so this might work.. Lol There’s tons of girls that will go out with guys that are jerks. Why? i dunno i cannot explain this female crazyness.. But i do know that this just might work.. just like asking them out on a date directly haha
RUFF RUFF!
Man can that girl bark any louder?
What a “but her face.”
This is brilliant. Why didn’t my father teach me this?
Of course, the important part is HOW you ask her to do it. Whether she perceives you as a jerk or someone attractive is up to skill. Body language, eye contact, etc.
You know, I keep finding myself involved with women who refuse to do anything for me, in spite of what I do for them… If I tried this, maybe I could avoid the train wrecks I get trapped by.
hmmm… very interesting perspective, but I have to question it due to me usually doing the opposite for people I find attractive. You know, that elementary school complex where you bully the person you like lol. I guess for all other circumstances it would work
I consider myself to be a generous person, but despite how much I like someone (or if they liked me) I would have never asked them to do such ridiculous things to “test” their attraction. It seems kind of childish to be playing games and taking advantage of their generosity.
I’m going to have to try this now that I’ve been presented with evidence…
Mr. Dan is very wise.
I would probably sharpen the pencil or get the cupcake if someone asked me too. I still wouldn’t go on a date with them though. Never was big on dating.
This makes me a little happy. I randomly asked the guy I liked to buy me a box of teddy grahams and his reply was “Where can I find these teddy grahams and when do you want them?”
And he bought them! So sweet… but he’s nice to everyone.
Simple and very cool.
Hm… this does make sense. I wouldn’t just go do something pointless for anyone. haha
Uh, no. I disagree. If I like someone, I’m actually more likely to tell them to sharpen their own damn pencil.
xD;;; It’s the complete strangers I don’t care about enough to sass.
Hm, interesting. It makes sense.
Hahha, nice post.
i don’t care i like the person or not, i don’t want them to think i’m their personal freakin assistant! get your own damn cupcake!
what if its just common courtesy? bc no one recognizes common courtesy anymore
lol, amazing.
sounds like you dated a lot of doormats!
False. I’d be more coy than to be your easy bitch. I’d still ask, why don’t you get your own cupcake? But I might get it after rolling my eyes at his answer, “I’m lazy” if I’d want to date him.
just because i’m interested in dating someone doesn’t mean i’m interested in being their errand boy. or girl, in this case. it doesn’t show a lot of respect for the other person.
never thought about it this way but it’s true! HAHA! i am very “attitudey” when people, namely guys, ask me to do shit for them, so i would DEFINITELY be the one saying, “get your own drink, you stupid boy!” and then give him a shove in the shoulder. but if i find him attractive, then o hell yes, i would get him a drink and then some. lol
BUUUUUT there are also those jackasses who want to be assholey no matter what so they might just say NO to every one who asks for any simple favor.
Haha that is all well and true, but more and more girls are more empowering and even if they would go on a date with you, i doubt she’ll get you it {sometimes}
Or you could skip the games and just ask her out.
Maybe she’ll say no now because she thinks if you’re so lazy you cant even sarpen your own pencil you’ll make a crappy boyfriend.
This is BS. If a guy asked me to go sharpen his pencil, I would be LESS likely to do it if I had any intention of ever dating him. I wouldn’t want to set a precedent of being a pushover and having him be in control of the relationship.
Even if I liked a guy, I don’t believe I would sharpen their pencil or get them a drink if they asked, unless I was already on my way to go get myself something. I’m usually reluctant to go grab my own boyfriend a coke from upstairs when he asks. Why can’t they get it themselves? I don’t like when people are dependent on me for things.
I got a laugh out of reading this somehow haha… never thought of it that way xD
you are amazing.