May 22, 2009

  • Why Xanga Can’t be Fixed

    Support of the “Ish” sites was never really support of the Xanga Team.  The xanga team went from 18 members to 12 members.

    Many of you probably remember when I wrote a post saying I thought xanga should drive traffic to regular ordinary users instead of to the “ish” sites.  Xanga had created the “ish” sites to act as ad sites.  At the time, I mentioned that xanga was driving a lot of traffic to those sites but it was a failed plan to make xanga grow.  Right after I wrote that post, you saw xanga feature a bunch of sites that talked about “Xanga Appreciation” or post that implied that people should stop being critical of xanga.

    The thought process was such that xanga needed those “ish” sites for ads and that we needed to be loyal to xanga and not be critical of xanga.  So loyalty on xanga became loyalty to the “ish” sites or at least an understanding that “Thou shalt not speak against an Ish site.”

    I then wrote a post where I said in the post that if xanga continued to not drive traffic to the ordinary user, the xanga team as we know it would break up. 

    Have you noticed something?  That xanga team had 18 members at the time I wrote that post.  The xanga team now has 12 members.
     
    What happened? 

    We were told that the “ish” sites would bring in more money to xanga.  You can remember that I pointed out at the time that the most popular of the “ish” sites was datingish and xanga team members were releasing that the datingish site was only making $500 a month. 

    Xanga needed the “ish” sites to grow and make money fast.  I knew the process would fail.  I even said in a few comments at the time that if xanga was able to multiply up to 10 ish sites that they would still not be making enough money.

    Why?  There are 12 ish sites now.  Say that the average “ish” site makes $500 a month.  Multiply that times 12 sites and you get $6000 a month.  Now I am sure datingish makes more than $500 a month.  But I also know google ads well enough that most of the other sites are not even close to $500 a month.

    So even if you are optimistic, xanga is making about $72,000 a year off the “ish” sites.  (I believe the sites are making much less than that).  Now xanga is located in New York.  So the cost of living is different there.  I believe the lowest paid xanga team member makes a little over $48,000.  That is actually an old number I heard a few years ago so it may be much more now. 

    Do you see the problem?  Those “ish” sites are probably really only making close to that $48,000 a year even if we are optimistic.  So xanga started a plan a year ago and the plan pays for one person on the xanga team after a year.

    I want to say this as clearly as I can.  Support of the xanga team is not the same as support of the “Ish” sites.

    If you support the whole xanga team, then you would support a plan that would have kept the other 6 xanga team members.  Now I realize we are in a recession.  But in most businesses, losing a third of your staff is considered to be pretty serious. 

    So we are down to 12 staff members on the xanga team.  What are those staff members doing?  Several of them are writing for the “ish” sites.  They are also editing the “ish” sites.  So xanga has not only lost a third of its staff, the xanga team is spending half the day over on the “ish” sites.

    You can actually test this.  Go over to an ish site and troll it or spam it with comments.  How quickly will xanga respond?  They will block you so fast it will make your head spin.  How can that happen?  It requires that the xanga team spend signficant time on those sites all day long. 

    What is the result of this whole process?  Xanga has lost a third of its team members.  But the team members that are left are spending significant time over on the “ish” sites.  That means there is less staff dedicated to actually fixing problems on xanga.  I predicted a year ago that xanga would see an actual increase in problems on xanga.  Why did I predict that?  I was talking to xanga team members that were spending all of their time on the “ish” sites.  I knew that it would require them to continue to spend time over on those sites.  Who does that leave to fix xanga problems?  Just a few people.

    What has happened on xanga?  Have you noticed that an increase of features do not work anymore?  I am not just talking about the recent glitches.  I am talking about problems like I have with my reply notifications.  I sent an email to xanga a few months ago and told them I had signed up for the reply notifications.  I never get them anymore.  Xanga was so nice in their reply to me.  But they didn’t fix it.  So I sent another email to them.  Once again, I received the most polite response.  You might know that I am still not getting the reply notifications.

    Why?  Because there are less people on the xanga team.  Plus the people that are left on the xanga team are taking care of the “ish” sites.  So there is less staff committed to fixing xanga problems.  Now I think you all know that the reply notifications is pretty important on xanga to traffic.  It increases communication between users.  But it hasn’t worked for me for months.  Now some people would consider me a xanga insider.  If I can’t get help, you probably can’t get help either.

    I want to tell you that this is not a criticism of the xanga team.  I think they are working their butts off.  I am sure it is frustrating for them to see all these posts and pulses talking about how xanga is not working.  But the reality is that most of us are sort of getting used to xanga not working.  We love the xanga team and we wouldn’t want to speak against them.  We are thankful for that personal note from a xanga team member that we love telling us he/she will get right on it.  But it still isn’t getting fixed.

    There are other consequences to xanga being smaller.  Xanga doesn’t have the lawyer that was a former prosecutor for online crimes working for them anymore.  He is one of the people that is no longer showing on the xanga team list.  When an underaged user told me she had met with an adult, I was able to report that to the xanga specialist.  He would jump right on the problem.  When another underaged user told me that an adult had contacted her and made sexual references to her, I was able to contact the lawyer and he jumped right on it and contacted her.

    Recently there was a case of an underaged user being contacted by a much older man.  He was pretending to be a young lesbian girl.  The underaged girl claimed that the man had sent her naked photos.  I reported this issue to xanga directly.  The response:  There isn’t much we can do about it.  A month later, the pressure on xanga built and xanga finally responded to the issue in public and said they were doing everything they could to help out.

    I have also contacted xanga about issues like threats by one xanga user to another.  Xanga’s response:  I didn’t get one.  Xanga really can’t do anything about it anymore.  Go ahead and try it.  Go threaten people all you want.  There is no process to protect people. 

    Once again, I don’t blame the xanga team.  I think they are working hard.  I think some of them are super tired.

    I do not think that support of the “ish” sites is support of the xanga team.  I think the xanga team is spending so much time working on those sites, that they are losing traffic fast.  I do think xanga is in a difficult position.  If xanga were to do away with those sites and turn off the friend bots, I think xanga would see their traffic decrease by 50% in the next six months.  The friend bots are generating some of xanga’s traffic now.

    What would I predict in the next year if xanga doesn’t change course?  I predict more of the xanga product will just not function correctly.  I also think that you will see xanga users reduce to a more loyal and dedicated group that will learn to function around the product failures.  Xanga has some loyal users that really don’t care whether the product works perfectly.  I do think you will see the xanga team shrink some more and I think xanga will become more glitchy.

    Does that sound negative?  Yes.  It was negative several months ago when I said that the xanga team as you knew it would break up.  But it was correct. 

                                                                                   

Comments (165)

  • I don’t know what to say….

  • So where do we go from here?

  • So what exactly do you think that they SHOULD do?  

  • Thank you for highlighting this. I appreciate the efforts the Xanga team had done for us all this time.

  • yes.
    (that’s all i can think of)

  • oh yeah i was wondering why i’m not getting my reply notification the past couple of weeks. 

  • uh,mmm im not sure…

  • I don’t see why they just don’t hire you. You’re on Xanga enough to be something like customer service. :P
    As you pointed out a lot of people will remain loyal to this site regardless of the glitches, but if things continue in this direction I’m not sure how well it’ll be doing a year from now. I hope everything gets worked out.

  • Like the dedicated band that played “Nearer My God to Thee” on the Titanic, I will stay here until the very end. Of course, all the band members died…

  • man, why don’t YOU just take over xanga – you know you could. 

  • They lost the lawyer? He was so helpful…

    I remember having trouble with Nazis spamming me and he jumped right on it. What the hell do they do now? I mean, I love John, Natalia, Eugenia and the gang. I hate thinking that they might spend more time with the step-sites instead of us.

    What now?

  • A very pessimistic outlook for Xanga’s future.  But I’m not convinced taking away the -ish sites is really the answer.

  • @wherethefishlives - That’s what they want you to think.

  • THE END IS NIGH! ARMAGEDDON! SAVE YOURSELVES!

  • Also, don’t get rid of the ish sites, it makes for awesome trolling.

  • you know what, whenever you post something ‘for the good’ of xanga like this, less people responded compared to other ‘meaningless’ posts…

    is my observation correct?
    does that give an accurate picture on how much Xangan are concerned about certain things?
    hmmm….

  • Yeah, they should get you to work for them. Or listen to you. Or something.
    But what can we Xanga users do?

  • I also am not getting all my email notifications. I just sent John a message today about it. I hope somehow Xanga can turn itself around. I would hate to see it go more downhill.

  • @DrugInducedDuck - It’s the end of the world as we know it….

    And I feel fine.

  • So I can go ahead and be an ish hater without fear? ftw.

  • Is Xanga dying…? :(

  • To me, Xanga is the people who interest me. Xanga is people, not a structure. As long as Xanga provides an open, easy, attractive format by which we can say what we want to who we want – which myspace etc. does not – I shall use it. The very name of the “ish” sites sounds contrived and dumb; I never go there.

  • I know I don’t like the “ish” sites much because they annoy me. Thats about it.

  • Enough of this boring stuff. You’re the soft porn guy; come over and advise me on this sex and lettuce issue, which is becoming a serious problem. People are asking questions that I’m not experienced enough to answer.

  • :(  i still love xanga!! i hope they’ do something that makes everything ok!!

    but the problems are kinda  sucky!!

  • I think Xanga should dump all the “Ish” sites and pursue other means of more income. I used to like the idea of the “Ish” sites but I recently changed my mind.

  • It’s unfortunate that this is happening to Xanga but I don’t really know what we can do….

  • yeah I’ve been bothering the shit out of them to get my name changed to something that’s taken but not used in 9 years, and they haven’t responded. guess they have a lot on their hands :/

    I can’t believe such a big weblog community has only 12 members! but I guess without a lot of money coming in, they can’t afford to pay workers like crazy.

    you should work for xanga. you’re good with the xanganomics.

  • Very well said.  I agree that the -ish sites are doing more overall hart to Xanga than good.  I wonder how many people are starting blog sites on the -ish sites?  It seems to me that the -ish sites mostly exist for the front pages.

  • i will always love xanga… what can be done?

  • thanks for the info dan.

  • I NEVER get notifications when I’m tagged in a post. I never have. It’s so annoying. But that’s my only issue.

    Now, Dan, you told us what will happen. Tell us how to prevent it and fix the issues!

  • heartbreaking
    when I started on Xanga early 2008 this place was filled with users who were super loyal and so much on love with xanga as a concept.

    I tried to make that point to John, that Xanga’s user loyalty and devotion is their greatest asset.
    … and then the ish sites kept multiplying, wateringe verything out into nothingness and sad desperation

  • But if we don’t get Xanga fixed, we’ll later have to worry about little Xanga puppies.

  • Is it downhill now?
    = (

    Remind them the 20/80 rule??

  • I am a loyal user, but even my loyalty goes so far. I wrote a post the other day called Xanga Woes, complaining about some of my irritations with Xanga not working. I don’t get my Pulse updates anymore and a host of other issues plague me/us as well. I understand we have fallen upon economic times, but it is important for the Xanga team to remember how they started and help keep all of Xanga, not just the ish sites running properly! 

  • i agree with some of the points you made…

    so where do you go from here? stick with xanga until it dies?

    i personally think xanga just isn’t innovative enough. Their blogging business model has lasted them 10 years now…but they need something else to really push forward in this new web 2.0 world.

  • @ShadesOfAnnie - I wouldn’t say they keep the ish sites running. I think all they do is editing on those sites. The ish sites sorely lack in features that xanga has had for some time. And there are many broken things on them.

  • Maybe the ish sites should be handed over to the users to edit. Just find some people who are interested in the site and that have been around xanga for some time and hand them the keys. If necessary perhaps in exchange for a percentage of the income off of that site. Frees us the xanga team, and keeps the ish sites around so they can bring in a little bit of money.

  • Oh s***… now where do we go?

  • does saving xanga fall under the realm of “editing”??? it’s quite a project, but i’m proud of you.

  • Xanga is here in NY? that explains why I heard about it so early on. 

  • I LOVE XANGA. Screw the ish sites.

  • uhhh what’s an “ish” site anyway? o_O

  • I’d rather there were just two or three ish sites and that random (good) bloggers would be highlighted so there is more to read.

  • now that you’ve mention it
    I’ve noticed about it too the email notification are not coming along

  • As long as my six years worth of daily blogging doesn’t go anywhere, Xanga is fine by me.

    Though I will say, I think the Ish sites are the *stupidet* idea.  Datingish isn’t bad though.  People really love to butt their heads into other people’s relationships. A lot.

  • : I was sad to read this. I hope they get what they need to keep Xanga going in a positive direction.

  • Just saying “I told you so…” would have summarized all that nicely.  

  • reply notification = email notification? 

    Or reply notification on our private homepage? cuz i still get those

  • Ok, I’ve obviously been slacking too much… What the heck is a friend bot?  I’d be perfectly happy if xanga would stop adding all these extra features, don’t need them, don’t want them….

  • Well done on your prediction, although I think we all would have preferred you to be wrong, and for the Xanga team to be going strong.

  • i never like those “ish” sites…

  • If Video Killed The Radio Star, Who Killed the Xanga Star?

  • thank you Dan for informing all of us about this…is there something we can do about this?  

  • any suggestions about a fix?

  • I hope they can figure out a way to get things in order soon…..

  • Yeah. I no longer receive emails updating when someone has replied to my comments or even when I get comments. Also, reply comments made on people who still have the old xanga page don’t show up in the universal inbox. Xanga is so goddamn lame.

  • ……………… Xanga can be fixed….. I kept seeing the “can’t” on my page there and it is soooo depressing….. I refuse to believe that nothing can be done…. get that Harvey Team In HERE!!!…….. Xanga’s not dead yet!!!

  • Interesting.

    Only one thing I do know, more of the “ish” sites are being edited/managed by Xangans rather then theXangateam. 

  • I found this very interesting. 

  • I just got here I hope your predictions are wrong, but they sound as if they are absolutely accurate. And disturbing. Maybe I shouldn’t unpack my boxes here just yet. :(

  • Agreed.

    I’d say the best solution would be to get rid of the ish sites as separate entities, but not to get rid of them altogether. Just make them linked to Xanga – in that they’d be like revelife.xanga.com instead of just revelife.com, for example.

  • Isn’t it rather obvious what can be done. Look at how many people who commented here have True badges but no Premium badges. If everyone would make a commitment to go premium even for a couple months, the team could use that revenue to invest in something that could get us more traffic.

    Go Primium for 2 months EVERYBODY!

    Who’s with me?

  • Funny, I just stopped recieving my comment notifications and was about to ask someone about it. Guess there’s no point if they won’t fix it.

  • @JayTrinh - The email notifications. I just stopped getting mine, and it’s frusterating because 90% of the comments I leave get replied to and I miss them now.

  • I read the -ish sites just long enough to go to the actual person’s blog and read it there. You’d be surprised just how edited those posts are too.

    And I don’t get email notifications for replies half the time either. I’m lucky if I catch it on the homepage.

  • @Da__Vinci - It’s a very good idea, but I’m a poor college student who is just struggling to eat a meal every day. I just can’t afford it. I wish I could though. Still, how would we know that the money would be spent fixing xanga problems and not expanding ish sites? We can’t really stipulate how they spend that money…

  • @Dare2BDiferentt - If you dont wait too long, and your friends and subs arent posting really fast, you can click to view the Universal Inbox ‘feedback’, rather than rely on email notifications. Personally, I get more email notifications that I want. It seems some of the same ones come in twice.

  • I’ll be staying, no matter what.

  • @Da__Vinci - I didn’t think about that. Thanks!

    Yeah, I don’t post as often for one reason now because I hate sorting email. When I post, I have like 10 emails for friend requests, 140 for comments, and the list goes on. But I’d still like to recieve them.

  • @MarksBeneathTheSkin - I think the Xanga team has a better grip on how to keep things going than we give them credit for. Plus they have a vested interest in doing so. The ish sites are fine as long as we don’t sacrifice bloggers on Xanga. I think we all could do a better job of getting people in here, plus the asian market is booming, not that that many of us in the english speaking world care, but that revenue is likely massive, and Dan didn’t say anything about that. I wonder if Xanga is publicly traded.

  • I remember the lawyer that worked for Xanga, he’s really nice.

    I love Xanga, but I rarely go to the Ish sites. For me, that’s not Xanga at all it’s just an extension.

    This was interesting, Dan.

  • Maybe Xanga could do something like AOL used to do.  Offer free services to Xanga power users that can help offer customer support and help to assess and prioritize issues for the Xanga team.  That might help free them up to address some of the growing number of issues.

  • Oh, god, head for the lifeboats, we’re all going down! Obviously, you see no hope for xanga’s future.

  • I don’t like the “ish” sites. I wouldn’t be sad to see them go. 

  • So tell us what to do, Dan. It’s hard to be angry when the xanga team are all such nice, hard-working people. I could swear that there were 24 of them when I first joined xanga. I’m sad that the remaining team members have to work such long hours and listen to so many complaints. I felt bad that Natalia ended up spending her Valentine’s Day hunting down spammers and John stays at work until after midnight. I know they’re doing their best to keep up. How do we support them and improve xanga?

  • at this point, i really don’t think there’s anything xanga can do. not enough people out there on the web want to blog to social network in order to keep their business model afloat.

  • I think I’m one of those loyal xanga users lol.. I really don’t pay much mind to what goes on around here..

  • I noticed that, too. Lately, Xanga has been rapidly declining in ‘traffic’. A lot. I can’t see ads or anything, but even the Ish sites are failing. Might as well just help the actual Xangans. I think.

  • O_______________________________o

  • Damn son. This is crazy!

  • I predict Xanga will cease to exist in a couple of years if they don’t start making dramatic positive changes YESTERDAY.  I just hope they give us a way to download all of our old photos/videos before they go belly-up.  It’s the least they can do for premium members who paid to store our files here.

  • I am a 5yr loyal customer who couldn’t care less whether Xanga works properly or whether I get any traffic beyond my Xanga friends.  But the -ish sites bug the hell out of me.  

  • I miss Stephen he was sort of a buddy. I was hoping to follow his daughter swimming career

    I’m rather sad. I hope these guys can pull it out. This recession will ether force them to become lean and mean or it will kill them.

  • Well that sucks.  What can we do to fix it?

  • @GodlessLiberal - Where do you think those little ish’s come from

  • This makes me sad.

  • @Dare2BDiferentt - oic. thanks for replying.  hmm… i’ve never really paid any attention to email notifications. I think I disabled all of them some time ago and relied only on the hompage updates :)

  • @Da__Vinci - I believe they are privative held. 44% of their traffic comes from Hong Kong. That has got to be saving them right now, they own that place.

  • Aw, you’re telling me that my -ish plans for cutters and bulemics isn’t going to work?

    YOU JUST GOTTA BELIEVE

  • @trunthepaige - Do you know their ticker name?

  • I will always be loyal to Xanga…glitches or not

  • @Da__Vinci - @trunthepaige - traffic for hk.xanga isn’t very high, unfortunately.

  • You should submit this to dollarish. 

  • @woodrowwilson - They are ranked 7th in there.  http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/xanga.com

    I think that is very good.

  • so what should they do?

  • I hope something can be done about this. :

  • I dont even glance at the ish sites.. I dont have time for that ish.. 

  • @trunthepaige - they are 7th in Hong Kong, yes, but that’s pretty small in comparison to the rest of Asia. I don’t think it’s enough traffic to say that it can sustain xanga.

  • @woodrowwilson - I think they may be partially blocked in mainland China. It will not save them, but it is still a lot of traffic. Without it they would be gone already.

  • Wow a lot has happened to xanga since the last time I logged on… I had no idea all of this stuff that goes on behind the scenes so to say. Thanks for posting.

  • Aw, that’s sad. I want xanga to stick around…

  • I was having a problem with creating a plug.  I didn’t even know where to report a bug, so I just commented on John’s site.  It got fixed though. 

    I always thought they must be making shitloads of money on premium memberships.  If that isn’t true, I think they are giving away too many features for free.  Premium doesn’t cost that much, but why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free. 

  • you remind me of a typical avg. GPA fat chick making presentation about certain issues in front of the class back in high school. hahah weak points! :P do they even make that much profit? … i dont believe so. i did check the traffic. :P

  • uhhhh … Indeed the situation is dire, but Frederick Xanga will know what to do! With his supportive wife Genevieve behind him, he has always managed to pull through. At some point, I predict he will bring the 12 disciples (i.e, the Xanga team) together for something of a last supper. Much like that previous “last supper” that made such big headlines, they will eat of the … oh never mind … the bottom line is … WHERE THERE’S A WILL THERE’S A WAY, and CAPITALISM WILL PREVAIL!

    p.s. This is not the opinion of this author. In fact, this is not an opinion.

  • I have noticed that subscription or reply alerts don’t come through to my mailbox or they come in late. After I read baldmike2004′s blog for today, I noted there have been many features added over time and more features means more things to go wrong. Also, I also have noted that more Xangans have signed up on Facebook. Some just hang out there & don’t post on Xanga anymore, others do both & some share their Xanga posts on Facebook. Some Xangans are concerned about a reduction in readers and comments. In my most recent blog (Monday’s – don’t have time for one everyday), I included a “takeoff” poem, “Where Have All the Xangans Gone?”

    I don’t know about “fixing”, but I hope that Xanga can continue to sustain itself. Maybe it is trying for too much emulation of other social sites. That’s a mistake, I think. It’s better to keep the site simple and focused on thoughtful writing, sharing ideas and ones life with others rather than cluttering with kitchy stuff.

    ~~Blessings, prayers ‘n cheers

  • @Dare2BDiferentt - @Da__Vinci - You can also just click on the feedback tab in the universal box and it will show just the feedback comments.

  • That’s weird- I haven’t been having any of those notification problems. Hmm.

  • i’ve been against a majority of the ish sites from the start for those reasons and more. though, i don’t think they should get rid of all of them. start off dumping half, or start trimming back at the least. only keep those that generate the most income, that way efforts aren’t being wasted on others that are pretty much useless.

    there’s also an idea that a group of users had to create their own “ish” site on xanga rather than petitioning for their own seperate section/site. i don’t think they get paid, they just do it because they want to. too bad there can’t be like, a middle-ground there. it might actually be a very helpful way for xanga to keep the “ish” sites, but also return their focus to xanga itself.

  • Lots of whining, but I don’t see any good solutions being presented (in the post, anyway).

    At this point, I don’t really care.  Xanga dug its own grave with those stupid Ish sites (one in particular), turning what was once a community into a bunch of enemy factions.  A lot of people have been put off by all the nonsense, and the last thing they’re going to want to do is financially contribute to a dying blogging/social networking site.

  • @andyglasser - it doesn’t help that there’s ways to buy i think a month or 3 months at a time of premium using xanga points. which, imho is completely useless. but, if they have to keep the points system, why not just remove the option completely for buying premium with it. might help generate at least some, if even just a little, extra money on memberships.

  • Mornin Glorie….As long as you don’t go anywhere It’ll all be fine…Have a Great Memorial Day Weekend!  

  • I think at least one Xanga team member should be kept for the assassination of the preditors you mentioned. I will gladly pay a fee to help supply ammunition.

    The economy is killing a lot of business. I’m sure the folks at Xanga are struggling to make it work, and the ‘ish’ sites simply reflect an attempt at financial creativity. I’m by no means a Xanga insider, but I’ve really come to enjoy this place, and I sure hope they find a way to keep it going. So far, I like it better for blogging than anything I’ve found, including my own Blogspot!

  • Unfortunately I agree with you and I am seeing more and more people leaving Xanga.  Sad.

  • Sooooo, let me get this straight. Are you trying to say that Xanga has less staff members?

    Just kidding, excellent points made. But like the others said, what should be done?

  • I don’t know. I am not here to provide people with jobs. It’s their job to run their business correctly, not mine. I am here because I like, generally, the way the site functions but if they fail at running their business, I will move on. 

  • Should Xanga go back to it’s simpler form from years back? Who really uses pulse, when there’s twitter? Can’t they just link all those things together, for example.

    Make it simple, make it work!

    Eman, that’s my name.

  • I used to post a lot and I had xanga premium and I would again if I felt it was worth it,  but it isn’t. features don’t work and it isn’t as easy to make it custom as it used to be. I keep looking for another site that used to have a close knit feel like xanga did, but haven’t found one yet.

  • i’ve never really experienced any of these problems…odd …

  • Well, I’ve noticed the same things. However, I don’t have nearly as much of the insider information as you do. What was the deal with this Facebook connection they have now whenever you make a post. I turned it off but it just seemed to come out of nowhere. Isn’t Facebook the competition? Why would they allow people to send their blogs to facebook from here? Facebook already has a blog feature; just cut out the middle man. Anyway, I fear that more problems are to come and will not leave Xanga for I have given them $100 just to have premium for life. 

  • Very true. But what’s the solution?

  • You’re right. I’ve noticed they haven’t been working on the ideas section …

    Actually, there are 13 ish sites. No one knows of hoodstars but if you sign in from xanga.com/private, it’ll show under a dropdown list.

  • Many blogging and/or social networking sites have the same problem: they go for short-term gains without looking at long-term effects. It is the way of the internet.

  • I have never commented here, but this brought me out of lurk mode. I’ve been here almost 9 years. I’ve seen a lot…and I do mean a lot.

    There has never been a keen interest from the team in ‘protection’ of members. It’s not that it used to exist but somehow stopped, it truly did not ever matter to them enough to really make it a priority. Abuses, harassments and stories of people just like those you’re talking about and worse have been part of Xanga since the start…and should you be interested in a story about how far back it goes, and how little they have cared about protection, I can tell you one or two of a very personal nature. The lawyer was only here because of the legal mess that happened on MySpace, and the million dollar fine that Xanga had, not because it was a perk for US. The lawyer was for CYA purposes, when the public ’heat’ went away, so did the lawyer.

    I like the team myself, as human beings. But as an entity that is supposedly offering US a product…they lack, severely. The ish sites are part of some other agenda, it just hasn’t been made clear yet what that is. But bet your butt it’s not to ‘help’ the users of those sites, or any of us on Xanga.

  • =[

    i will die if Xanga shuts down. that is all i have to say on this issue.

  • Can we help if we click on the adds that are on our sites and other peoples sites? Will this create more revenue for them?

    If so, then perhaps your next post should be “Click on an add to save Xanga”.

  • Wanna Get Laid Tonight! use the link(:->
    http://www.xmate.org

  • Xanga has been dead ever since the great migration toward Myspace. It seems as if you’re sugar-coating your words, here, and this post is quite redundant…

  • There’s 13.. people have forgotten about hoodstarz.

  • I unsubscribed from the ish sites I was reading a few months ago because of all this. Not sure if one person unsubscribing makes a difference, but oh well.

  • ish sites are dumb.

    i’m buying premium and hoping for the best. 

  • what’s an “ish” site and why should I care about them?

  • I will remain blissfully ignorant.

  • i haven’t been on xanga very long but i hope xanga doesn’t die. of all the sites i’ve been to, xanga is the few that has a real community

  • So that’s why I haven’t been getting the comment reply emails…

  • what can we do to help?
    i would seriously hate to see xanga go under completely and obviously we all can’t rally into some kind of voluntary mass with increased privileges that would be a bloody nightmare.
    is there anything at all besides just remaining users and doing what we all have been since the creation of the first account?
    there are many reasons why i love xanga and for each of those reason i can not idly sit by and watch it die slowly if in fact that is the case.
    i am open to doing anything i can to maintain and further it’s existence if anyone knows how?!?

  • I know that the traffic to my own site has never been tremendous but I used to get far more than 30 per day. Now I’m lucky to get 10.  I do not visit the Ish sites as I feel like they’re siphons.  Now I know the rest of the story.  

  • remember *ryc*’s ..?  i think the reply feature was responsible for cutting down xanga to xanga visiting. is that old school? maybe. and the ish sites, you can tell they’re sort of contrived. i mean, when you go to one and the automatic-generate a sub back to you, ugh. it’s just not personal enough. i think xangans enjoy personal. i think it’s getting away from that, but then again if it’s about $$ then you gotta do what you gotta do. *don’t* you?

    ahh…the good old days. i hope xanga makes it…i really have come to care about the staff – the ones who’re still here.

  • Some of the ish sites I like, like datingish and the one about being healthy, but now the stuff they have I think is a little bit overkill :( I’m not sure what to do to help Xanga grow into a better and more profitable site.

  • I love Xanga.  But the Ish crap is really doing the site in. 

  • I’ve not had any problems with applications not working within Xanga other than slowness, but I attribute that to the amount of Internet traffic. I love my Xanga site, use it to keep in touch with family and friends, make friends, and would hate to see it fold. It is the only site that I have found where I am comfortable to be me, and it’s not horribly tacky and full of teens playing Mafia Wars……

  • why dont you work for xanga? might as well at this point

  • @maniacsicko - Nice observation. I bet it’s pretty accurate too. 

  • i am very alarmed, i go on xanga everyday but well i like the ish sites too…is there’re anything we can do?

  • I’m glad you brought some of these problems out for others to see. Xanga is a really decent place for honing your writing skills, keeping in touch with friends, meeting new ones. There are many great things to do and see here so I hope more people get involved to try and improve it and keep it form going under. This place is much better than FaceBook,  just my opinion. Awhile ago I had the same problem – not getting notification of comments/replies but mine seems to be working fine now. It must be an awful strain on the remaining folk that put this site together and run it. I admire them for their dedication and hard work.

     A friend of mine, actually he was my boss as well gave me a piece of advice I try to use all of the time. If you have a problem or see something wrong, don’t just run to the boss with the complaint. If you can do that, make sure you come prepared with some sort of suggestion to fix it as well. If more people got involved here and put their heads together, it would bebefit everyone. By enlightening us with these facts today, this could be a step in the right direction for others to find ways to help. I’m sure many people that are concerned about Xanga will put their thinking capas on and hopefully come up with some ideas. We need to participate as well.
    In the past few months I’ve been involved in some very good discussions about various topics. One of them was -  why do so many meaningless, idiotic stories get headlined or the top 10?  The basic conclusion reached was the fact that these things were written by young people and attracted the same. I’m sure there’s a time and place for some of this but, without sounding prejudiced or mean spirited, couldn’t there be a way to set up a specific site, maybe have a spot for people over 35 or 40 years old? This is an idea I had awhile ago.  What do you think?

  • I still don’t know what an ‘ish” site is!

  • I disagree with your assumptions here. I view Xanga as a winning operation with much growth potential. I’ve seen a great many new users arrive on the scene in the past year, probably partially due to the “ish” sites, which by the way I think are an excellent concept ripe for further development. I don’t view Xanga’s staff reduction as a sign of collapse, but rather like any good business, they need to do what it takes in order to remain profitable. As for technical glitches, I use Xanga almost every day and I can’t remember having any technical problems since 2005. Xanga is free and it’s fun. It provides in my opinion the most dynamic blogging and social networking platform on the internet today. I don’t see anything to complain about here; Xanga rocks! So much of success revolves around personal attitudes. The ship isn’t sinking so please climb out of the water and get back to rowing your oar Captain Dan. The team needs you to do your part and resume your leadership in blogging excellence.

  • What the heck is an “ish” site?   

  • I hope you are wrong, but I fear that you may be right.

  • I’ve been here for 6 years now and things are definitely not the same anymore. I still wuoldn’t ever dream of leaving, though. I also can’t stand the “ish” sites. I think they sort of do what blogrings were originally intended to do, but in a bigger and more annoying way.

    I haven’t had any problems with my Xanga site itself, but In the past couple years there have been a few instances where I would go a few weeks without any email notifications at all, not even my subscription emails. And then they’d randomly start again. Weird.

    Your predictions seem accurate, but for our sakes and the sake of Xanga in general, i hope you’re wrong! 

  • As you say I am a loyal user of Xanga but I never went on the ish sites . My own blogging and my friends on Xanga are sufficient for me .
    Are you in the Xanga team yet ? iI remember you were in .
    In friendship
    Michel ( frenchman)

  • oh no its the end of the world….
    NOT

  • that’s a good and a bad thing.
    there won’t be any xanga left
    but at least you’ll be gone too

  • I find the ish sites annoying. The only one I look at is the Christian one and it is so full of fluff and no substance that it makes me puke, so I have unsubbed it and everything. The power of xanga when I was new here (several years ago) was community. You could easily find people who shared an interest. This is what the blogrings did. Blogrings were never perfect, but they were also never promoted all that well. We want writers, but we also want community. I’ve met some wonderful people through the xanga site, a few are now lifelong friends in real life apart from xanga. I am thankful to xanga for these friends. Facebook and myspace are both very shallow, and xanga isn’t myspace and shouldn’t try to be. Imho that’s exactly what they’ve been trying to do and it is the wrong way to go.

    Themes
    I don’t like the themes and turned them off. They are clunky and don’t work all that well. A lot of features (including the help system) are based on the old platform and don’t support themes. I opened a new site a while back to do some experiments, but found that it started out a themed site and unless you knew about the old format, you couldn’t get there. With themes there’s less incentive to go premium.

    Home
    I also tried the new home (personal) page. I hate it. It looks just like myspace. I don’t want that. Too much nonsense and not easy enough access to my own posts and my subs.

    Friends
    I’ve never understood this concept. Perhaps if you’re into the myspace/facebook thing it might make sense, but it doesn’t make sense to me. Subs provide daily reading from those I want to read. Friends doesn’t appear to do much except give people warm fuzzys and give you an extra option for spamming via private messages.

    Messgaes
    I think xanga would do well to cut down spam by removing the ability to send messages to entire sub/friend lists. I get spam from people I otherwise like and it really is unnecessary.

    Sites that do it right
    I blog at shelfari and multiply. Shelfari has the model down for group discussion. It does what xanga’s blogrings should have done but utterly failed to do. Multiply has a group blog feature that doesn’t work so well, but it has the best filtering do control the level of access users have to each other. In other words, if you aren’t friends, you may not be allowed to comment or even see personal blogs. There’s also good group administration features, though not quite as good as shelfari.. Xanga would be a lot smarter to loot at the strengths of these sites instead of trying to be what they are not. Build a good business. Big will follow.

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