They DO have artifical appendages. Abortion is never ok, so no, he wouldn’t be better off dead.
Well, I can’t speak for him, but I would prefer not to have been born if I was to be without limbs.
Let’s ask him in a few years.
No. Are you saying that because he wont be able to do things on his own that he shouldn’t be alive? That his mother should of had an abortion if she knew that there was going to be something wrong with her child? The baby did nothing to deserve to die, even if he would be like this.
As much as we tote the slogan of pro-life, is it really fair for this child to have to live a life of being so handicapped?
I personally think this child would be better off not born, despite how I believe every child should have a chance at life.
Wow, that’s really terrible.
I think that if a person is born with some sort of deformity, they become a stronger person mentally and emotionally than most other people do. They learn to cope with their issues right from the start. Whereas if something terrible happened to them later in life, they will more than likely be bitter the rest of their lives.
I think that if the child was mine I would say that he has the right to life no matter what might hinder him. There is ways to work with this so…but for the mother who knew ahead of time..she is the one who makes the decision in the end.
I listened to a preacher who had been born without hands and feet and he seemed to be doing fine.
His worth is not defined by his limbs.
If he ends up being a serial killer, then we’ll talk.
Well, what can you do? I think despite lack of limbs he can have a good life.
he probably would be. although the kid may learn to cope at an early age, he’ll still have to deal with being ostracized amongst his peers. kids today are cruel.
I would have rather not been born had I ended up like that, personally. That’s just not fair to make someone live life like that.
You should feel terrible for asking that.. this child is beautiful.
he can always get fake arms and legs.
xo
I know of a great motivational speaker who has no arms or legs. Such a person can still be off great value to those around him, perhaps even to society as a whole.
Never say that. Being born armless, legless or both is not a good reason to not be born.
@MsKittyCatty - iunno why you’re trippin’. no one said anything about abortion.
I think it would have been better for that kid to never have been conceived into existence.
@Kristenmomof3 - I saw that video too. Wasn’t he from Australia?
Thing is, since he will grow up not having them, he won’t fully comprehend what it is like to have them. The human spirit always finds a way to make do with what it is given in life. I can garantee you he will be glad he was allowed to live and experience life just like any baby would if they had a voice in the womb!
But here’s the thing: All of the people who are being all Pollyanna about it should ask themselves, “Would *I* want to live like that?”…and if you/they/we are being honest, the answer would be an emphatic NO! And yet, in the name of compassion, you’d have someone else live like that? Pfft.
@breaking_expectations - I agree with you. That’s one of the reasons why we have ultrasounds and why doctors give us options. Some people grow up stronger because of their disabilities, while some grow up in pain no matter how hard they try to cope.
Like some others have already said, I personally would rather not have been born at all than have been born without limbs.
omg that’s so sad I rather he/she would not have been born – so she/he wouldnt have to suffer like that =/
They have artificial limbs now, and with the advances in the medical field I think he’ll be fine.
Abortion is never ok.
@jai_ko - How am I “trippin’”? You present yourself as unintelligent by your answer. Good day.
@mtngirlsouth - wow, I just read their stories and I am just speechless. thanks for sharing.
NO! One of my best friends has deformities in her arms and she is an incredibly strong young woman. Will some of this baby’s life experiences be diminished due to his lack of limbs? Potentially. Does that mean he should not have been born? NO.
Hmm, the Pollyanna principle… I learned something today!
The more curious question to me is whether the parents would have if they had known…
The “All life is sacred” argument operates on the premise that life is inherently good, no matter what.
Living life like that? The chances are exceedingly slim that you will have a good life from that. Putting a child’s well being to that degree of chance would never sit well with me.
- John
It’s all up to him.
I’ve seen online a preacher without arms or legs, and he’s obviously doing fine. This kid isn’t the first. Still a beautiful child. He’s just got to be a little more resilient.
For those of you who think he should have been aborted, it’s not like he gets another chance to be born differently. He lives like this or he doesn’t at all. No other chance. Think about that.
everyone deservs a chance at life<3
Also, how is a severe physical handicap much different from a mental one, say, severe retardation? I find them oddly comparable. So then, I wonder how many people would find it ethical to abort a mentally handicapped child.
Who said having arms and legs defines a person’s worth.
I can’t speak for the child but if I ever ended up like that due to an accident, I’d want OUT.
No. Let it breathe, let is smell, let it see, hear and feel. It might as well enjoy life. It’s not like the baby will have another chance…
I will never put myself in position of GOD. It doesn’t really matter what I think. I just know that it’s amazing that this child is alive and hope that some day he leaves a mark on this world that will never be forgotten. Life is beautiful and I don’t believe in abortion, so therefore if GOD gave this child life as he is, then that’s my answer. It is what it is…
that poor kid. I’m sure he wouldn’t be happy if he knew a bunch of people were debating whether or not he should have been born.
Considering he is a child, his mind is not yet sculpted into what will be….maybe he would have far greater mobility with prosthetic then an amputee later in life.
Do I think he should have been euthanized? From my standpoint? Yes. As should all humans born broken/misshapen/uncurable, mentally or physically, to the point of constant support.
For me, it’s the humane thing to do
agree with those saying to ask the child in few years
I can’t imagine being happy living that type of life, but if I had never had arms and legs I don’t know how I’d feel. It’s pretty tragic anyhow.
I say no assuming that he has a loving parent that is there to give him the best life possible regardless of his issue.
I just wonder how difficult it will be for him to function as a normal child. No recess. No coloring. No anything I remember from my childhood. And kids are mean…how are his peers going to react to him. I’m sure he can survive physically, but I wonder how he will function mentally…
every child is better for being born…in fact these babies are less demanding than ones with limbs…this child should have a chance at life to live it to the fullest…smile
@Kristenmomof3 - I have too once; is he Nick Vujicic? I listened to him in my religion class senior year and he seemed like a great motivational person.
no. anyone who says otherwise obviously has been conditioned to think otherwise, thus ignoring any unlikely shred of compassion they have.
There is more to life than what the body can or can’t do. That child will experience days where they are so thankful they are alive. They will also experience days where they wish they were never born.
Just like the rest of us.
Aww what an adorable child, such a shame – he deserves to live and could have artificial limbs God bless him
seriously looking at that pic i just wanna take that baby and bring it home and spoile the hell out of it <33 poor baby but everyone deserves a chance at life and with the Tech stuff we have no a days he will live a normal happy life<3
Not sure. Sometimes I think it’s better to have an abortion then to live such a hard life.
I’ll show you a child who would have been better off not being born.
You know, I don’t know. I can’t say whats right or wrong but I can tell you this..I would hate to live without the ability to hug someone or to never know the feeling of walking. I would hate life and def would not put any child in that situation. Death is unfortunate but living as a half or less of a person is hell.
Yeah.
does he have a penis?
How can that kinda call be made when he can still have a good life? It will be tough but not impossible for him to have a successful life.
@The_Aftershock_3650 - that’s b/c with people like that (…anti-choicers…) it’s about quantity of life, not quality. after the baby is out, they don’t give a damn anymore.
this is a really hard question to answer. as someone with limbs i would say that i don’t think i would have wanted to live with out even one limb. but i’m not in that position. many people with handicaps like that are perfectly fine, some are depressed. i guess it would really depend on the person.
@striemmy - Good point. But still…. and don’t you think that those days when he wishes he was never born will be even more intense than the ones that we experience?
Hmm. Alive without limbs or…dead. If it were me I’d rather be ALIVE and have a chance at making the most of my life. Rather than having someone else determine that I was worthless because I didn’t have arms and legs. That would be cold and cruel.
There are others like him who have overcome their “disability” and have thrived. It is wrong to say that people like them should just be aborted.
Absolutely not.
Yes, I think so. Living without arms and legs (to me) seems horrid…I wouldn’t want to be that kid…I wouldn’t want that life.
@Another_Perfect_Wonder - I doubt it. The grass is always greener on the other side. I’m sure there are days a paraplegic wishes they could walk like me. There are also days I wish I use a wheelchair controlled by my mouth to get places. I believe that that child will be about as normal and well adjusted as any of us can be.
there is a great motivational speaker without arms and legs. sorry but i cant think of his name right now, but the guy is awesome ! there is a video.
Don’t know about him personally, but I doubt he’ll appreciate it. I know I would rather have not been born.
Better to have not been born. He will get bullied, beat up, or worse, molested. I hope he has a strong family to guard him from all of this. There is this chick who was born without arms/hands. But she has feet and managed to make use of her feet. And even braid her daughter’s hair. She was trained through some program John F. Kennedy ran.
depends on what hes capable of. i’d say most ppl would be better off not being born then to be born like that. each individual is different
This question should have been asked when the child was still a fetus. But once he’s born the answer automatically becomes “NO.”
Would life be harder? Sure. But then again, some of the most miserable people are the “perfect” ones who have money. It’s hard to say Yes or No.
Life is precious. But every woman is entitled to her opinion. His mom chose to have him. Life in this generation is much easier than it used to be (at least in the States) so… maybe his life will be much more fulfilled and happy than ours.
That is so sad.. Poor lil guy.. No, i’d never say anyone would have been better off not born. But, it will be a long road for him. Of course, it will be much easier for him to adapt, having the condition from birth, instead of becoming handicap later in life.
no. there’s some Russian evangilist who doesn’t have arms or legs.
Definitely this child would have been better off not being born. Additionally society would be better if the child had not been born.
No.
Science is advancing, and in a few years, he’s gonna have a sweet pair of cybernetic arms that make Arnold S. look like a girly man and cyborg legs that make Usain Bolt look like an 80 year old with asthma.
Yes. Thinking from that point of view, I wouldn’t wish to be alive anyway.
I was tempted to comment-reply to specific people, but I don’t wanna start a big thing.
All I’m gonna say is, I really can’t grasp how people are like “awww I so care about this kid, and he would be better off not being born, because I care about him and it’s just unfair for him to be like that and I really care about him.”
“Better off“? What do they mean, “better off“? No chance to live, prove himself, be something? How on Earth is that more fair than being given difficulty and obstacles and troubles – to be able to overcome those and be something special?
It really upsets me that people can be so negative.
I wish I had the link, right now, but I don’t.
Have you seen the videos of the man with no arms or legs who speaks about his life, who is so inspirational, and who stages a fall-over on stage and then lifts himself back up?
@ link – I would marry that guy, he is that amazing, to me. I really hope people watch it. I doubt they would, if they’ve already comment saying “yes”, since they probably will never see the link, but… I hope someone does.
I personally would not want to have been born without limbs, and know it’s hard enough to bring up a healthy child than to bring up one facing a myriad of physical and psychological hurdles. If my amniocentisis had revealed a fetus (not viable outside the womb at 15 weeks when amnios are usually done) to have such severe problems, It would be a difficult decision — and I’m sure a lot of you out there would object — but I would choose to terminate my pregnancy. Frankly, I also don’t think it’s anybody’s place to judge what I or anyone else would do when faced with that situation.
soon enough we won’t need legs and arms… biomechanical engineering can only become a reality if children like this survive.
If the head works, keep it
I personaly think every child has the right to live. There are certain things that I would say it’s your choice for abortion, but not in this case. Anyone born is capable of living life, even with severe handicaps. I know someone, Nick Vujicic. I’ve met and talked to him personaly. He’s an amazing guy, happy. There’re plenty of reasons this baby should be alive. He’ll never know what it’s like to have arms and legs. He’ll know how to do things without them ’cause he has to. That’s how he’ll learn and grow up. It might be harder with a lot of things, but it’s not something he’ll know as being harder and it’s not something he can help. He can still lead a happy life.
Life is a treasure, he will make of it what he will and just because he doesn’t have limbs it doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be alive. There are prosthetic limbs he can use and he could do everyday things with the help of little devices or machines. There are plenty of handicapped people out there that don’t wish they were never born and I know of an inspirational speaker that visits elementary schools to educate kids on her handicap – no limbs. This is not for us to decide, it is his life and who are we to put the idea in his head that he may or may not be better of never born.
Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned him, but Nick V. was and I think he’s enjoying life…
Perhaps you should also ask what your readers would do if their child was born this way or if they knew of his condition while he was still a fetus. Euthanize him? Drop him off at a facility that takes care of this type of children and forget he exists?
The child would have been better off aborted. (I imagine that most such cases would have been naturally miscarriaged.)
When I read the title, I was really hopeful that Paul_Partisan had a chainsaw accident. So disappointing.
I’ll toss in the old life is what you make it cliche… I am not going to be the judge of this one’s future because it isn’t up to me, for all we know things may work out better than for those who have all their limbs.
I think that only the child will be able to answer that with accuracy. I’ve never met anyone who was disabled who would go so far as to say they wish that they had not been born.
What would have to be heartbreaking for a parent is to, years down the road, for him to say “Why did you have me if you knew I would be like this?”
That child still has the chance to have limbs, but not natural limbs. They’ll be artificial. I have a friend who has a little brother who lost his leg last summer in a boating accident. He lives his life with an artificial limb and he’s still perfectly happy. Every baby deserves a chance at life…
Last time I checked, a person was more than just their limbs.
NO, NOT AT ALL
I wouldn’t want to be alive with no appendages.
@CelestialTeapot - I agree…. I know it’s sad, but I’d probably do that. I just can’t bring my child into the world to suffer.
The poor child needs prayer. This one is a potential miracle baby. I will set right to it. …Love, Sande
no?
I don’t think that “right to life” really enters the mind of someone who is facing being a mother to a severely disabled child. It’s whether they want to be mothers to a child like that. I do think this poor baby has a right to life, why not? But I would NOT want to be his mother, and if he were born to me, I would give him up.
Ultimately, it is far easier to be the “woman who terminated an abnormal pregnancy early in the term” than the “mother who gave up her baby because she wanted to have kids who can go on bike trips with her.”
Morally, it’s quite the opposite.
Well if I had no limbs, I personally would have prefered to not be born. But, I don’t know it depends, I don’t really know what I think.
Awww! And no, I’m glad he was born. He is an object for the parents to love. He is a lesson in patience, kindness, and love to those close to him. Why don’t we ask him in 5 years if he is glad to be alive. And again in 20 years. I bet he will say yes.
I think this child is beautiful. He deserves a chance.
@sexybish666 - those that grow up stronger experience the same pain as those who don’t . The difference is the ones who get stronger exploit the situation and use it to their favor and the ones who don’t focus on themselves and remain selfish. I’m not saying it’s easy, I just know too many severely handicapped people who live vibrant (if limited) lives to fall for these excuses. I also know people who have relatively minor or no handicaps who cry victim and are unproductive members of society. Just sayin’
they should have push buttons for abortions!!!!
I’m definitely supportive of a woman’s right to choose. However, since this child is a baby right now and there are artificial appendages and science is continuing to make progress with such things, there is no reason this child couldn’t have a normal life. I grew up down the street from a boy who had an artificial arm with some kind of a hook on it. It wasn’t sharp like Captain Hook’s or anything, of course. He had a birth defect, although I don’t remember ever asking. I thought it might be rude to ask, and I didn’t want to upset him. :/
Ultimately, I think something like this rests with the mother and father to decide on, however I can’t say that either choice would be wrong. But, if the only worry is whether or not this child could have a normal life without its own arms and legs, then I don’t think there would be any reason to abort. Naturally costs do come into play, prosthetic limbs are not cheap. However, the boy I grew up down the street from had several brothers and sisters, only one parent, and lived in one of the less nice houses on the street. So, apparently they found a way. Then again, the economy was different then, and the boy I grew up around only had one prosthetic.
So, hopefully the parents have the money for this. Because, as the grows it will need replacements. Even if nothing goes wrong with them, the child will grow and need to be fitted with new ones. Although, I’d figure that there is some sort of disability the child could get on that would help with this kind of thing. Considering it isn’t a matter of just one leg missing or one arm missing, this child has NO arms or legs. How could that not qualify for something?
Still, its a choice that would be individual to the parents. And totally their right to make that choice, however they choose. Personally, I don’t think anyone has a right to judge such a difficult and heart wrenching decision, no matter which choice is ultimately decided upon. :/ But, that’s just me.
I know that personally, as some above have said, I wouldn’t want to live that way. But, I would hope that if I had to, I would be able to make the best of it.
That picture immediately reminded me of this motivational speaker born without arms or legs, and only had a little flabby piece (like the child in the photo had) to get through life. I think that it really do depend on the kid and where he would be growing up, because there are some areas in the world where it would be really hard to grow up with this kind of disadvantage.
Personally though, I have no idea how I would get through life without arms or legs.
Yep.
noo they’re making wonderful prosthetics now-a-days. as long as his brain is fully functioning, he has the capability of living a fulfilling life!
(not saying people without fully functioning brains can’t.. just that no limbs and a malfunctioning brain would definitely detract from the quality of life)
I guess it depends on his situation in the future.
In nature, a child such as this would never survive. Generally speaking in those terms, why would you go through with it?
Yes,lets ask him in a few years.
Yes.
They do have artificial limbs, but it’s obviously not the same.
The mother obviously carried through with the pregnancy, but if I knew my baby was going to be born with no arms AND legs, I’d get an abortion.
Would you want to live without arms and legs? Hell no. Would you want to date someone without arms and legs? I’m sorry, but no.
Who are we to decide that? Is he any different than amputees when they come home from war? Let him live his life. I’m sure he could use his handicap to reach out to those who struggle with theirs.
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no
They DO have artifical appendages. Abortion is never ok, so no, he wouldn’t be better off dead.
Well, I can’t speak for him, but I would prefer not to have been born if I was to be without limbs.
Let’s ask him in a few years.
No. Are you saying that because he wont be able to do things on his own that he shouldn’t be alive? That his mother should of had an abortion if she knew that there was going to be something wrong with her child? The baby did nothing to deserve to die, even if he would be like this.
As much as we tote the slogan of pro-life, is it really fair for this child to have to live a life of being so handicapped?
I personally think this child would be better off not born, despite how I believe every child should have a chance at life.
Wow, that’s really terrible.
I think that if a person is born with some sort of deformity, they become a stronger person mentally and emotionally than most other people do. They learn to cope with their issues right from the start. Whereas if something terrible happened to them later in life, they will more than likely be bitter the rest of their lives.
I think that if the child was mine I would say that he has the right to life no matter what might hinder him. There is ways to work with this so…but for the mother who knew ahead of time..she is the one who makes the decision in the end.
I listened to a preacher who had been born without hands and feet and he seemed to be doing fine.
His worth is not defined by his limbs.
If he ends up being a serial killer, then we’ll talk.
Well, what can you do? I think despite lack of limbs he can have a good life.
he probably would be. although the kid may learn to cope at an early age, he’ll still have to deal with being ostracized amongst his peers. kids today are cruel.
I would have rather not been born had I ended up like that, personally. That’s just not fair to make someone live life like that.
You should feel terrible for asking that.. this child is beautiful.
he can always get fake arms and legs.
xo
I know of a great motivational speaker who has no arms or legs. Such a person can still be off great value to those around him, perhaps even to society as a whole.
@Paul_Partisan - i agree
I’m with @BebstersBlog2 - let’s ask him in a few years. Thisman and this woman seem to be okay without them. Wonder what they would say?
@Paul_Partisan - Agreed.
Never say that. Being born armless, legless or both is not a good reason to not be born.
@MsKittyCatty - iunno why you’re trippin’. no one said anything about abortion.
I think it would have been better for that kid to never have been conceived into existence.
@Kristenmomof3 - I saw that video too. Wasn’t he from Australia?
Thing is, since he will grow up not having them, he won’t fully comprehend what it is like to have them. The human spirit always finds a way to make do with what it is given in life. I can garantee you he will be glad he was allowed to live and experience life just like any baby would if they had a voice in the womb!
But here’s the thing: All of the people who are being all Pollyanna about it should ask themselves, “Would *I* want to live like that?”…and if you/they/we are being honest, the answer would be an emphatic NO! And yet, in the name of compassion, you’d have someone else live like that? Pfft.
@breaking_expectations - I agree with you. That’s one of the reasons why we have ultrasounds and why doctors give us options. Some people grow up stronger because of their disabilities, while some grow up in pain no matter how hard they try to cope.
Like some others have already said, I personally would rather not have been born at all than have been born without limbs.
omg that’s so sad
I rather he/she would not have been born – so she/he wouldnt have to suffer like that =/
They have artificial limbs now, and with the advances in the medical field I think he’ll be fine.
Abortion is never ok.
@jai_ko - How am I “trippin’”? You present yourself as unintelligent by your answer. Good day.
@mtngirlsouth - wow, I just read their stories and I am just speechless. thanks for sharing.
NO! One of my best friends has deformities in her arms and she is an incredibly strong young woman. Will some of this baby’s life experiences be diminished due to his lack of limbs? Potentially. Does that mean he should not have been born? NO.
@Another_Perfect_Wonder - Exactly.
Hmm, the Pollyanna principle… I learned something today!
The more curious question to me is whether the parents would have if they had known…
The “All life is sacred” argument operates on the premise that life is inherently good, no matter what.
Living life like that? The chances are exceedingly slim that you will have a good life from that. Putting a child’s well being to that degree of chance would never sit well with me.
- John
It’s all up to him.
I’ve seen online a preacher without arms or legs, and he’s obviously doing fine. This kid isn’t the first. Still a beautiful child. He’s just got to be a little more resilient.
For those of you who think he should have been aborted, it’s not like he gets another chance to be born differently. He lives like this or he doesn’t at all. No other chance. Think about that.
everyone deservs a chance at life<3
Also, how is a severe physical handicap much different from a mental one, say, severe retardation? I find them oddly comparable. So then, I wonder how many people would find it ethical to abort a mentally handicapped child.
Who said having arms and legs defines a person’s worth.
I can’t speak for the child but if I ever ended up like that due to an accident, I’d want OUT.
@Another_Perfect_Wonder - Agreed!
No.
Let it breathe, let is smell, let it see, hear and feel.
It might as well enjoy life.
It’s not like the baby will have another chance…
I will never put myself in position of GOD. It doesn’t really matter what I think. I just know that it’s amazing that this child is alive and hope that some day he leaves a mark on this world that will never be forgotten. Life is beautiful and I don’t believe in abortion, so therefore if GOD gave this child life as he is, then that’s my answer. It is what it is…
that poor kid. I’m sure he wouldn’t be happy if he knew a bunch of people were debating whether or not he should have been born.
Considering he is a child, his mind is not yet sculpted into what will be….maybe he would have far greater mobility with prosthetic then an amputee later in life.
Do I think he should have been euthanized? From my standpoint? Yes. As should all humans born broken/misshapen/uncurable, mentally or physically, to the point of constant support.
For me, it’s the humane thing to do
agree with those saying to ask the child in few years
I can’t imagine being happy living that type of life, but if I had never had arms and legs I don’t know how I’d feel. It’s pretty tragic anyhow.
I say no assuming that he has a loving parent that is there to give him the best life possible regardless of his issue.
I just wonder how difficult it will be for him to function as a normal child. No recess. No coloring. No anything I remember from my childhood. And kids are mean…how are his peers going to react to him. I’m sure he can survive physically, but I wonder how he will function mentally…
every child is better for being born…in fact these babies are less demanding than ones with limbs…this child should have a chance at life to live it to the fullest…smile
@Kristenmomof3 - I have too once; is he Nick Vujicic? I listened to him in my religion class senior year and he seemed like a great motivational person.
no. anyone who says otherwise obviously has been conditioned to think otherwise, thus ignoring any unlikely shred of compassion they have.
There is more to life than what the body can or can’t do. That child will experience days where they are so thankful they are alive. They will also experience days where they wish they were never born.
Just like the rest of us.
Aww what an adorable child, such a shame – he deserves to live and could have artificial limbs God bless him
@The_Aftershock_3650 - a ‘good’ life?
ask that question when he’s 15 yrs
seriously looking at that pic i just wanna take that baby and bring it home and spoile the hell out of it <33
poor baby but everyone deserves a chance at life and with the Tech stuff we have no a days he will live a normal happy life<3
Not sure. Sometimes I think it’s better to have an abortion then to live such a hard life.
I’ll show you a child who would have been better off not being born.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWTdh8eM_aY
You know, I don’t know. I can’t say whats right or wrong but I can tell you this..I would hate to live without the ability to hug someone or to never know the feeling of walking. I would hate life and def would not put any child in that situation. Death is unfortunate but living as a half or less of a person is hell.
Yeah.
does he have a penis?
How can that kinda call be made when he can still have a good life? It will be tough but not impossible for him to have a successful life.
@The_Aftershock_3650 - that’s b/c with people like that (…anti-choicers…) it’s about quantity of life, not quality. after the baby is out, they don’t give a damn anymore.
this is a really hard question to answer. as someone with limbs i would say that i don’t think i would have wanted to live with out even one limb. but i’m not in that position. many people with handicaps like that are perfectly fine, some are depressed. i guess it would really depend on the person.
@striemmy - Good point. But still…. and don’t you think that those days when he wishes he was never born will be even more intense than the ones that we experience?
Hmm. Alive without limbs or…dead. If it were me I’d rather be ALIVE and have a chance at making the most of my life. Rather than having someone else determine that I was worthless because I didn’t have arms and legs. That would be cold and cruel.
There are others like him who have overcome their “disability” and have thrived. It is wrong to say that people like them should just be aborted.
Absolutely not.
Yes, I think so. Living without arms and legs (to me) seems horrid…I wouldn’t want to be that kid…I wouldn’t want that life.
Tell this man he should not have been born
@firetyger - as usual you make sense
@Another_Perfect_Wonder - I doubt it. The grass is always greener on the other side. I’m sure there are days a paraplegic wishes they could walk like me. There are also days I wish I use a wheelchair controlled by my mouth to get places. I believe that that child will be about as normal and well adjusted as any of us can be.
there is a great motivational speaker without arms and legs. sorry but i cant think of his name right now, but the guy is awesome ! there is a video.
Don’t know about him personally, but I doubt he’ll appreciate it. I know I would rather have not been born.
Better to have not been born. He will get bullied, beat up, or worse, molested. I hope he has a strong family to guard him from all of this. There is this chick who was born without arms/hands. But she has feet and managed to make use of her feet. And even braid her daughter’s hair. She was trained through some program John F. Kennedy ran.
depends on what hes capable of. i’d say most ppl would be better off not being born then to be born like that. each individual is different
This question should have been asked when the child was still a fetus. But once he’s born the answer automatically becomes “NO.”
Would life be harder? Sure. But then again, some of the most miserable people are the “perfect” ones who have money. It’s hard to say Yes or No.
Life is precious. But every woman is entitled to her opinion. His mom chose to have him. Life in this generation is much easier than it used to be (at least in the States) so… maybe his life will be much more fulfilled and happy than ours.
That is so sad..
Poor lil guy.. No, i’d never say anyone would have been better off not born. But, it will be a long road for him. Of course, it will be much easier for him to adapt, having the condition from birth, instead of becoming handicap later in life.
no. there’s some Russian evangilist who doesn’t have arms or legs.
Definitely this child would have been better off not being born. Additionally society would be better if the child had not been born.
No.
Science is advancing, and in a few years, he’s gonna have a sweet pair of cybernetic arms that make Arnold S. look like a girly man and cyborg legs that make Usain Bolt look like an 80 year old with asthma.
Yes. Thinking from that point of view, I wouldn’t wish to be alive anyway.
I was tempted to comment-reply to specific people, but I don’t wanna start a big thing.
All I’m gonna say is, I really can’t grasp how people are like “awww I so care about this kid, and he would be better off not being born, because I care about him and it’s just unfair for him to be like that and I really care about him.”
“Better off“? What do they mean, “better off“? No chance to live, prove himself, be something? How on Earth is that more fair than being given difficulty and obstacles and troubles – to be able to overcome those and be something special?
It really upsets me that people can be so negative.
I wish I had the link, right now, but I don’t.
Have you seen the videos of the man with no arms or legs who speaks about his life, who is so inspirational, and who stages a fall-over on stage and then lifts himself back up?
EDIT: I found it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MslbhDZoniY&feature=related
@ link – I would marry that guy, he is that amazing, to me. I really hope people watch it. I doubt they would, if they’ve already comment saying “yes”, since they probably will never see the link, but… I hope someone does.
I personally would not want to have been born without limbs, and know it’s hard enough to bring up a healthy child than to bring up one facing a myriad of physical and psychological hurdles. If my amniocentisis had revealed a fetus (not viable outside the womb at 15 weeks when amnios are usually done) to have such severe problems, It would be a difficult decision — and I’m sure a lot of you out there would object — but I would choose to terminate my pregnancy. Frankly, I also don’t think it’s anybody’s place to judge what I or anyone else would do when faced with that situation.
@UnworthyofHisgrace - i agree with you. everyone deserves a chance at life.
soon enough we won’t need legs and arms… biomechanical engineering can only become a reality if children like this survive.
If the head works, keep it
I personaly think every child has the right to live. There are certain things that I would say it’s your choice for abortion, but not in this case. Anyone born is capable of living life, even with severe handicaps. I know someone, Nick Vujicic. I’ve met and talked to him personaly. He’s an amazing guy, happy. There’re plenty of reasons this baby should be alive. He’ll never know what it’s like to have arms and legs. He’ll know how to do things without them ’cause he has to. That’s how he’ll learn and grow up. It might be harder with a lot of things, but it’s not something he’ll know as being harder and it’s not something he can help. He can still lead a happy life.
Life is a treasure, he will make of it what he will and just because he doesn’t have limbs it doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be alive. There are prosthetic limbs he can use and he could do everyday things with the help of little devices or machines. There are plenty of handicapped people out there that don’t wish they were never born and I know of an inspirational speaker that visits elementary schools to educate kids on her handicap – no limbs. This is not for us to decide, it is his life and who are we to put the idea in his head that he may or may not be better of never born.
Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned him, but Nick V. was and I think he’s enjoying life…
http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org/
i jus wanna noe is that a tail? seriously.
That’s racist.
Perhaps you should also ask what your readers would do if their child was born this way or if they knew of his condition while he was still a fetus. Euthanize him? Drop him off at a facility that takes care of this type of children and forget he exists?
The child would have been better off aborted. (I imagine that most such cases would have been naturally miscarriaged.)
When I read the title, I was really hopeful that Paul_Partisan had a chainsaw accident. So disappointing.
I’ll toss in the old life is what you make it cliche… I am not going to be the judge of this one’s future because it isn’t up to me, for all we know things may work out better than for those who have all their limbs.
I think that only the child will be able to answer that with accuracy. I’ve never met anyone who was disabled who would go so far as to say they wish that they had not been born.
What would have to be heartbreaking for a parent is to, years down the road, for him to say “Why did you have me if you knew I would be like this?”
That child still has the chance to have limbs, but not natural limbs. They’ll be artificial. I have a friend who has a little brother who lost his leg last summer in a boating accident. He lives his life with an artificial limb and he’s still perfectly happy. Every baby deserves a chance at life…
Last time I checked, a person was more than just their limbs.
NO, NOT AT ALL
I wouldn’t want to be alive with no appendages.
@CelestialTeapot - I agree…. I know it’s sad, but I’d probably do that. I just can’t bring my child into the world to suffer.
The poor child needs prayer. This one is a potential miracle baby. I will set right to it. …Love, Sande
no?
I don’t think that “right to life” really enters the mind of someone who is facing being a mother to a severely disabled child. It’s whether they want to be mothers to a child like that. I do think this poor baby has a right to life, why not? But I would NOT want to be his mother, and if he were born to me, I would give him up.
Ultimately, it is far easier to be the “woman who terminated an abnormal pregnancy early in the term” than the “mother who gave up her baby because she wanted to have kids who can go on bike trips with her.”
Morally, it’s quite the opposite.
Well if I had no limbs, I personally would have prefered to not be born. But, I don’t know it depends, I don’t really know what I think.
Awww! And no, I’m glad he was born. He is an object for the parents to love. He is a lesson in patience, kindness, and love to those close to him. Why don’t we ask him in 5 years if he is glad to be alive. And again in 20 years. I bet he will say yes.
I think this child is beautiful. He deserves a chance.
@sexybish666 - those that grow up stronger experience the same pain as those who don’t . The difference is the ones who get stronger exploit the situation and use it to their favor and the ones who don’t focus on themselves and remain selfish. I’m not saying it’s easy, I just know too many severely handicapped people who live vibrant (if limited) lives to fall for these excuses. I also know people who have relatively minor or no handicaps who cry victim and are unproductive members of society. Just sayin’
they should have push buttons for abortions!!!!
I’m definitely supportive of a woman’s right to choose. However, since this child is a baby right now and there are artificial appendages and science is continuing to make progress with such things, there is no reason this child couldn’t have a normal life. I grew up down the street from a boy who had an artificial arm with some kind of a hook on it. It wasn’t sharp like Captain Hook’s or anything, of course. He had a birth defect, although I don’t remember ever asking. I thought it might be rude to ask, and I didn’t want to upset him. :/
Ultimately, I think something like this rests with the mother and father to decide on, however I can’t say that either choice would be wrong. But, if the only worry is whether or not this child could have a normal life without its own arms and legs, then I don’t think there would be any reason to abort. Naturally costs do come into play, prosthetic limbs are not cheap. However, the boy I grew up down the street from had several brothers and sisters, only one parent, and lived in one of the less nice houses on the street. So, apparently they found a way. Then again, the economy was different then, and the boy I grew up around only had one prosthetic.
So, hopefully the parents have the money for this. Because, as the grows it will need replacements. Even if nothing goes wrong with them, the child will grow and need to be fitted with new ones. Although, I’d figure that there is some sort of disability the child could get on that would help with this kind of thing. Considering it isn’t a matter of just one leg missing or one arm missing, this child has NO arms or legs. How could that not qualify for something?
Still, its a choice that would be individual to the parents. And totally their right to make that choice, however they choose. Personally, I don’t think anyone has a right to judge such a difficult and heart wrenching decision, no matter which choice is ultimately decided upon. :/ But, that’s just me.
I know that personally, as some above have said, I wouldn’t want to live that way. But, I would hope that if I had to, I would be able to make the best of it.
That picture immediately reminded me of this motivational speaker born without arms or legs, and only had a little flabby piece (like the child in the photo had) to get through life. I think that it really do depend on the kid and where he would be growing up, because there are some areas in the world where it would be really hard to grow up with this kind of disadvantage.
Personally though, I have no idea how I would get through life without arms or legs.
Yep.
noo they’re making wonderful prosthetics now-a-days. as long as his brain is fully functioning, he has the capability of living a fulfilling life!
(not saying people without fully functioning brains can’t.. just that no limbs and a malfunctioning brain would definitely detract from the quality of life)
I guess it depends on his situation in the future.
In nature, a child such as this would never survive. Generally speaking in those terms, why would you go through with it?
Yes,lets ask him in a few years.
Yes.
They do have artificial limbs, but it’s obviously not the same.
The mother obviously carried through with the pregnancy, but if I knew my baby was going to be born with no arms AND legs, I’d get an abortion.
Would you want to live without arms and legs? Hell no. Would you want to date someone without arms and legs? I’m sorry, but no.
Who are we to decide that? Is he any different than amputees when they come home from war? Let him live his life. I’m sure he could use his handicap to reach out to those who struggle with theirs.
But I’m one to think the best of people.
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