January 22, 2010
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Teacher, Facebook and a Stripper
A teacher from a high school was suspended for “30 days without pay” when her photo was taken at a bridal shower and then posted on Facebook.
(This is not the photo although it would make a great “Name that caption” photo).
The woman was at the bridal shower and her photo was taken and a male stripper was in the photo. Someone posted the photo on Facebook on another person’s account. Here is the link: Link
Do you think a teacher should be suspended if she is in a photo with a stripper?
Comments (109)
personal life is personal life
Not on someone else’s site. You can hardly control what other people will post.
No, but you should be careful what pictures you are in. Or have friends that will ask if it is alright to post pictures of you online.
Furthermore, if her students or other teachers or administrators had access to HER Facebook, that would be a separate issue. I don’t think students and teachers should connect on social apps because that’s a conflict of interest. But this doesn’t sound fair.
We live in a world where you have to be careful about EVERY little thing you do. Now she was on her private time, and someone took the picture of her and posted it. I think that’s just crazy! That’s why my facebook privacy setting are private!
And now I’m having Varsity Blues flashbacks…
Ridiculous. At least it was only a suspension and she wasn’t fired.
No.
No.
I got rid of facebook for a damn good reason! Not that one, but it was plenty good! fuckin facebook, I hate it!
oh yeah and my answer is “HELL NO!”
She is entitled to a life outside of her employment. It wasn’t a picture of her working her side job as a stripper. She was at a bridal shower, a male stripper was there, unless she is a nun and works for a Catholic school; they went too far.
Oh wow… facebook is dumb. I hate it.
My husband is a teacher and he gets paranoid all the time about the things that I say about him or the pics that I post of him on Xanga (because I link it to my FB) and on FB. I kept telling him that he was being ridiculous, but after he showed me this about this teacher I was a believer. I still feel though, that a teacher’s personal life should be considered just that, as long as there are nothing that indicates that said teacher might be a pedifile. Two consenting adults is totally different, and I also think that a teacher’s past history should be taken into consideration before the suspension was made.
No
Absolutely not! If she was doing something X-rated, then maybe, but just for being in the photo with a stripper, then not at all. Teachers have lives too, you know! haha
That’s stupid.
No. This only goes to prove that facebook is the devil.
No, that’s ridiculous. If it is a public school she should sue.
For some reason, people tend to put coworkers on Facebook. I did, and I regret it.
there you go again.. looking up perverted images with male strippers.
Most definitely not. That’s ridiculous… The more and more I hear about facebook the closer I get to deleting my account. =/
No, especially if she’s not the one who posted it. Sometimes people take pictures that don’t make you look very good, but you can’t control what pictures other people take and post. Not to mention, as long as she’s a good teacher, doesn’t do anything wrong when it comes to teaching, then her personal life shouldn’t matter.
If I remember correctly she could have a potential lawsuit- it may have just been proposed legislation though… I have to see if I can find it again. There was something about privacy and not being able to pull information from forums like facebook.
No, that is absolutely ridiculous – especially since she was not the person who posted it. I think someone in the administration overreacted. I mean REALLY overreacted. What a bunch of bullshit.
@gwacemom@momaroo - I agree.
@Da__Vinci - I have coworkers on my fb, I don’t regret it, haha.
Anyway, no, I don’t think the teacher should be suspended.
Definetly Not.
Hmm… Third party photo taken at a bridal shower… not really clear cut that the teacher did anything wrong under those circumstances (toward the school or kids, that is). Stuff goes on at bridal showers just like bachelor parties. Not necessarily right, but appropriate to some for the event.
I’d probably let that one go.
no, she should sue the person who posted that picture
I say no. Teachers should have personal lives, it’s not like it was a photo of her ‘doing’ a student or something. Ya know?
These are the people we leave in charge of the education system (talking about whoever suspended the teacher).
Woah; they went too far…
I don’t think she should get suspended, but any professional needs to be careful, even if you have to tell the person who posted a picture of you to take it off. It’s common sense.
No… her embarrassment is punishment alone isnt it?
loll the caption should be “wait, where is it?”
If you’re a teacher then you should be extra careful about pictures and making sure everyone knows certain pictures cannot be leaked out.
She is lucky she only got suspended and not fired. Harsh, but true.
My sister is studying to be a teacher and she is extremely cautious about everything she does to make sure that it won’t jeopardize her future career.
Teachers need to get laid too.
Considering she was at a bridal shower party and the picture was taken and posted by someone else… This seems very unfair. Of course you have to be careful about what kinds of situations you’re in these days because people jump on every little thing. But it’s not like she posted it. She wasn’t nude. Wasn’t have inappropriate interaction with a student. I think the school way overreacted.
no
I’d be pissed if I got suspended for being at a bridal shower. I mean, that’s pretty much what happened.
No, it’s her life as long as she didn’t post it herself and shout it to the world.
this is why i got rid of my facebook. apparently, teachers are supposed to be “holier than thou” when in reality, a kid’s parents probably talk about this kind of stuff all of the time.
airing it for everyone to see only makes it worse.
Not if it was posted on someone else’s site! Geez. I suppose teachers aren’t allowed personal lives.
I don’t think so. Every teacher needs to have a life outside the classroom.
I think it depends on what she is doing with the stripper.
That is one seriously hot teacher.
No. Well, maybe if she’s positing it when she has students in her friends account or something. ♥
No. And I hope she sues the city/school district.
@cornyonacob - A little to the left!
En que mundo vivimos, ah?
Yes, suspend her! I’m in high school and that behavior is highly innapropiate. What if a male teacher did that?
Lol, sounds messed up a bit. No, she shouldn’t have been. It is her personal life. But no one should have posted it on facebook like that…at least not on public viewing, ya know?
It’s not like the teacher printed it out and brought it to class.
Only if she had students added as friends.
No. That’s idiotic. We are trying to turn our teachers into slaves and it isn’t even making our education system better.
Really, do you think the students will have less respect for the teacher because they might maybe happen across a picture of her on facebook that was posted through no fault of her own regarding an incident that took place during her bridal shower, or after the administration freaked out about it causing everyone not only to know that there was a picture of her on facebook and also to know that she has zero support from her adminsitration and is even considered to be to “blame” for it.
Someone needs to step back and re-examine these policies and include some sort of common sense clause.
She shouldn’t make her info and pictures like that public, I mean common, that’s just asking for trouble!!
How the hell does that affect her performance? It doesn’t. Fucking retarded.
i think this could be a good basis for suing for defamation of character……
no, what the fuck? someone else posted the picture. and she’s an adult. you’re not allowed to go to and take pictures at a bridal shower now if you’re a teacher? just ridiculous.
is there a student in the picture with her? lol NO… so it shouldnt mstter.
Wait, she wasn’t even DOING anything in the picture?!
Heck NO! What the heck! All that proves is that she was at the same party as a male stripper. It in no way proves she did anything that would endanger her job or her students. It doesn’t reflect on her character, in my opinion.
That’s so stupid…
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Ridiculous. She had no control over the picture being taken or released to the public. She was simply attending the bridal shower. However, has she been doing something illegal in the picture, that’s another story entirely.
Of course not.
yeah, pretty much
Shouldn’t teachers be held to the same standard as students? Students get suspended for pictures on their Facebook and such and teachers are supposed to set examples.
No.
If it were posted on HER facebook, then, yes, absolutely it might be a big deal . But she didn’t post it. So she should face punishment because she was at a bachelorette party? Oh please.
Heh, something similar to this happened at a school near me. The teacher wasn’t penalized for it, though.
I don’t think she should be suspended. It’s her personal life.
yuuuup.
As a teacher, I have issue with this. Our society has become so socially available, meaning, we can peak into people’s lives at the click of button. We are so quick to pass judgement on people for whatever reason forgetting that work and personal lives are a separate identiity. I have f/b, but I do not accept friendships with students. The great thing about xanga is that most of them have no idea what it is. I find it so hard to have a life anymore. When I go to the mall toshop, I see kids. When I go to the grociery store, I see kids. I am continuously aware about my purchases, especially in clothes, even weekend clothing, because kids go back and talk. “I saw Mrs. Leyva in a bikini at the pool.” That was a statement made by a kid during the first week of school. I won’t complete the rest of it, needless to say, full piece this summer. I think that it is wrong that she was fired, at the same time, as a teacher she has to be aware that everything she does will be scrutinized, especially in an age where teachers are dating students or adding 6 seconds of a sex tape to a end of the year video. I feel bad for her.
@scrambledmegsntoast - No. We are adults, our standards are different, higher perhaps, but with more wiggle room for age and rank. As an adult I enjoy the rights to things that my students cannot, it comes with age. She is an adult, who was having a great time at an adult activity. We’ve all been to showers before, she is entitled to that frivoulous joy. However, the picture really never should have been posted due to our prejudice society.
no.
Caption that photo: O! Well, I certainly wasn’t expecting THAT.
I think it’s crazy that her ‘friends’ posted a pic of her on Facebook knowing how easily should could get into trouble for it. I’d suspend the friends without pay. Go1
@nkleyva - Well the same argument, that it really is just the posting of the pictures and not the behavior, should also apply to students. In your opinion, should schools not suspend kids that have certain photos on their FB as has happened recently?
Facebook always ended up in local newspapers (in Malaysia) due to some case or case. Apparently Facebook bring the bad and wild side of people. I’m still very happy that I have no Facebook account.
Yes because it is public and her students can see it. It makes the school she works at look bad too.
I just think this is fairly funny. also I say ‘who cares if she’s in a picture with a male stripper? that’s her business’
I could almost understand if she chose to post the picture herself… but someone else posted it so it’s stupid. omg! you mean… teachers actually have a personal life? get over it.
Nope.
You know, if it was posted on myspace, chances are no one would’ve seen it.
Well, it was HER bridal shower and she had every right to do as she very much pleased. If someone else posted it, then she can’t be held liable.
No, it is her personal life and she wasn’t the one who posted it on the internet. You can’t control the actions of others.
Of course it’s patently unfair. But the employer has all the power, esp. in this economy. Someone in admin. decided to make a statement. It will all get sorted out at Judgement Day. BTW–I was terminated over something I did–which I thought was minor but management did not. So it’s not like I don’t know what she’s going through. An atty. who specializes in occupational law described it to me–it varies from state to state–my state is “At Risk”. Meaning, they can fire you and then come up with the reason
Geez, of course not!
What she does in her own time is her own business. My Ex husband is an entertainer. Once, he did a show for a police officer’s birthday party. There were alot of strippers, and drinking and other officers there. I believe they should have had the time to de stress. All it would have taken was for one officer to contact internal affairs and alot of those officers might have gotten suspended. Teachers and police are human too, they have a right to have”fun” as long as it hurts no one else,lol
no, not at all.
Teachers are held to a high moral standard because of the influence they have on young people. It has always been so, although even more extreme than it is today, and always should be so.
The youth can very influenced by what they see in their teachers. She should have known better, or at least asked everyone not to post any of her pictures on the web.
By the way, it is widely reported that pictures of yourself doing certain things can harm your career. Imagine an accountant having pictures of some drunken brawl posted. His/her company may not want to entrust him (or her) with more responsibility for the companies finances. My sister in law never drank at office parties because she was the accountant and knew that it would not look very responsible.
The teacher should have been more wise about her actions.
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I don’t think this is fair at all but it doesn’t surprise me one bit.
I’m studying for my Masters in elementary education right now, and one of my professors last year told me a similar story. A teacher at a school he worked at was fired for becoming pregnant outside of wedlock. The best part? The man that got her pregnant was also a teacher at the same school, and was not fired or even suspended.
So, this kind of stuff happens all the time. I think it’s insane, teachers have a right to a personal life outside of school.
Noo, that’s not fair. Her social life is separate from work, it’s no one’s business – unless she’s actually breaking laws, then I can see how that would be a concern.
i dont think so but whoever posted should be shot to death
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This is totally out of hand. There has got to be some balance. It is not as if she is friending all her students and posting cheesecake pics of herself.
This is why you need to be careful of your privacy settings.
@foxes_have_holes - totally agree with you
her friends suck
Even IF she posted, they have no basis for suspension because it’s activities outside of school, as in they got no fucking right to butt in her personal life. What a bunch of cockblocking douchebags!
HAHA! people keep getting busted on facebook. Maybe NOT post these pics? Haven’t any of them heard about nicknames either?
@scrambledmegsntoast - I really don’t care what my students post on their f/b or m/s, it’s between them and their parents. HOWEVER, if the pictures posted take place on school property and are offensive, slanderious, violent, gang related, or sexual in nature, then A DEFINITE YES! The same for any teacher or paraprofessional. However, if the activities are taking place outside of a school function or building, then I say, whatever. Let the parent be responsible.
No, I believe that anything a teacher does in his/her private life is irrevelant to their job, so long as it doesn’t impair their ability to do their job (hangover/high/child molester, etc).
Besides, everyone partys now or then, are we really going to punish them for just having fun?
morally, no
legally, yes
How many men on the school board are regulars at the local whorehouse? How many women on the board are banging the pool boy like a storm door in a hurricane? It’s things like this Farce-Book thing that makes me not post any pictures online or give out personal information.
No. Honestly there should be some heavy protesting at the school. Getting wayyy too much into peoples personal business.
@stixandstonz2009 - So her entire life has to hide behind walls? What if she goes out to a restaurant and drops a few drinks, maybe gets into a make out session at the local tgif or what ever sort of chain junk they have there? Let’s just say a few students and their parents happen on in. Where does it end, once you start?
If she wasn’t having the part, or the stripper, on school grounds, I really do not see how they can do anything about it. I am not a sue happ person in any way, but she most definetly should.
Good God. That is ridiculous. The school has no standing to launch sanctions against this woman for what she does in her free time.
Facebook should never have opened up to non-college students.
That is why you don’t add your boss’es or students to your facebook!
This woman is a schoolteacher who is charged with the instruction and guidance of children. Two factors are essential in such a great position of trust: Competancy and character. This woman is obviously lacking in the latter. What loving and responsible parent would want this woman in charge of his child? And what upstanding school officials would let it stand? Our children deserve better than this!
personal life is personal life, indeed.