March 9, 2010
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False Rape Accusations
A man has been arrested for raping a woman and carving “mine” on her stomach.
I like how his cousin is quoted in the article as saying, “He’s an easy going person.” Here is the link: Link
It is interesting because recently I had a conversation with a woman and she told me she thought rape cases were under reported.
Yet, on the other hand, a study found that DNA testing is showing that about 25% of men that are accused of rape, were not a DNA match to the sperm left in the alleged rape victim. In other words, the accusations against the men were false. And in these situations the woman is rarely brought up on charges for the false accusations. Here is the link: Link
Can a woman be trusted concerning a rape accusation?
Comments (71)
Look at her history.
Cases are individual. In general I’d say yes. ♥
I would HOPE so.
Can men be trusted concerning whether he tells the truth or lies?
I would say yes unless her history showed otherwise… in which case take it seriously but be skeptical.
I like how the picture is tagged “mine”…
In this case, I’d say about 25% of the time, no. At least, if your statistics are correct.
I think it would be ethically wrong to not trust what she has said unless her history has proven she cries wolf, but even then I would be hesitant to disregard what she has said.
Now a days… you can’t trust anyone. y is it those damn dna samples take so long to cross anaylze?
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. That is all.
@GiantUnicorn - history? Like measure her giner size? say what?
[Can a woman be trusted concerning a rape accusation?]
According to those statistics, in 25% of the cases, no.
always use DNA testing and whatever impartial evidence you can get to get to the bottom. What people say don’t matter after that.
Everything should be taken with a grain of salt.
The law is rightfully skeptical. It takes evidence and testimony, and not mere words of an alleged victim to turn a trial.
Ehhh… that’s really iffy sir.
If I were on the Duke lacross team, I would say no.
really? only 17 comments still? thought you’d been skewered by now…sheesh -see the time stamp comin…
Of course they can’t be trusted, why the hell are they even out of the house?
i think those women should be raped again!
I saw a story like this on Dr. Phil! A girl had a guy sent to prison for twenty years because she thought he raped her. Turns out he didn’t. She apologized on the show, right to his face!
Uh, wait, I should clarify. I don’t normally watch Dr. Phil. Really, I don’t.
generally
yes. the accused could always demand a dna test. i know you try to push people’s buttons but why do you say such horrible things as this?
its hard to get dna because a lot of women don’t go immediately to the hospital or police station to get the dna.
you have to put yourself in that situation.
would you go RIGHT AFTER you got raped and go to the hospital?
generally i’d say no you wouldn’t, because its a pretty terrible situation to be in, and victims often don’t think clearly.
I am sure you can do tests on the women to see if she’s telling the truth (or likely to be) just as you do on the man to see if he raped her. You can’t trust people 100% but you have to take their accusations into account and investigate.
While rape is a phenomenally heinous act, I doubt it has an effect on reliability of witnesses or victims more than any other traumatic crime. As a few here already said, it’s a case by case basis. Throwing an almost random man in jail simply because we’re to do something for the victim simply creates another victim with a ruined life.
@andfeud - Go find another dick to shove up your ass. Wishing rape on women for a second time is disgusting.
I’d like to say Yes, but I’d tend to believe what people are telling me, especially for something so serious as a crime. But then again, there are unjust people in this world who will do anything to screw over another person. *shrugs* this is a pretty tough thing to deal with.
It’s interesting. This entry wasn’t rec’d even once. That tells you something about the climate on xanga and possibly in the world. They say that it’s a man’s world but I’ve found it to be a very unfriendly world for members of our gender. We’re pretty much defenseless from relationships to child custody to rape accusations to domestic violence cases and the list goes on. I’m not saying society should boo hoo for us but think maybe women should take it easy?
It’s hard to flat out say yes or no. Like others have mentioned, you may want to closely pay attention to all the details… would she have a reason for wanting him arrested? Who tends to be the most trustable person? I mean, there would have to be a lot of investigation. Just because the the physical evidence doesn’t match the man who was accused, doesn’t mean it was a lie… maybe she was drugged and didn’t remember?
I really have no clue, just trying to look at both sides.
But, anyway, carving “mine” into her stomach. Yikes…
an estimated 1 in 6 women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetimes.
that means that if every single man who commits sexual assault does it 10 times, about 1 in 60 men will commit sexual assault (ten times!) in his lifetime.
Anyone who makes false accusations of being raped should go to jail.
you cant put the victim on trial…
you cant put the victim on trial…we have dna tests to see if the guy really did it, yes its sad but true, but even victims who were raped can mess up the id, and yes there are abuses, but rapes are still under reported and this sort of talk helps to perpetuate that problem. some women will not report it bc they do not want their prior sex life to become public record and this is what happens when you are allowed to use her history….every case should be taken seriously.
Can you be trusted in your reporting?
For the most part.
I thought we’re supposed to be treated equally.
@Pensamientos@revelife - yeah the Duke Lacrosse Rape case was definitely about justice and not about rape.
@MangoWOW - @GiantUnicorn -
What on earth does it have to do with her history? Her history of what, exactly?
Well carving “MINE” into her stomach is pretty confirming.
I don’t think the women are lying about being raped – I think they were asked to identify the suspect from a faulty lineup (and research shows that once an improper lineup is done, it is nearly impossible for the victim to change their “identification” of the suspect, because the memory is altered in their mind).
It all depends on the woman but I would think most women can be trusted to tell the truth as well as they can remember. I know there are women who lie or there are women who are convinced something happened in the past that did not or get confused about what did happen.
That man looks disturbed,I would never trust him.
if a woman is found to have made a false accusation intentionally, then there are criminal charges that should be brought against her. in the eyes of the law, she is a criminal and should be prosecuted. but i am not a fan of digging into a womans sexual history in a rape case. they were allowed to do that before and it led to soooo many abuses and unreported rapes that there was a rule put in place.
in this coun try we are innocent until proven guilty and that applies to everyone. you cannot immediately assume the woman is lying just as you cannot immediately assume the accused is lying. there will be women who use the system to try to frame men. they should be prosecuted, but this does not mean that we should have the right to dig through a womans life hisotry and make it public record just because she was raped.
They might still have been the rapist even if DNA does not match up. There are people who have more than one genetic code, they are called genetic chimeras. They were fraternal twins in the womb but one absorbed the other so the individual that arises has two sets of DNA.
There has been cases addressing this before. There was a woman who was denied welfare because initial genetic testing failed to reveal she was the parent of her children. Later it was revealed she was a genetic chimera.
From what I understand Chimera’s are being found to be common than previously thought.
You are becoming about as bad as DearRicky with all this rape crap.
@Drewsius - I saw that, and that was a terrible, stomach-turning show. In an instant, as in that guy’s case, your life can change in such a horrible way. And now that woman, based on her mistake, has to live with the guilt of knowing she took away a man’s freedom for so many years. What a mess.
@gailzyxcore - Well the subject is
false
rape accusations and then the ending question is if women can be trusted concerning their accusations.
So I said yes unless her history shows reason to doubt. As in, if she’s made a bunch of accusations that ended up being false before, still take it seriously (as you always should) but remember to be skeptical.
I used to work for a rape hotline and I was a court advocate for victims outside of Chicago several years ago. I’d say it’s a case-by-case basis. You can’t paint with broad strokes, because every individual and every single incident is different. I do think it happens a lot that the man accused of rape is falsely accused. I think it’s the responsibility of both parties to do their best to avoid situations (and I’m NOT saying anyone asks for rape by any means!!!). Men have been known to put themselves in situations (especially celebrities it seems) to be accused of rape, and at some point, it usually comes down to one person’s word against another without substantial evidence. It’s easy for a man to rape a woman and say she consented; it’s easy for a woman to consent and have sex with a man and then later say she said ‘no’. Very slippery slope.
Often, sadly no, given the politically charged atmosphere of many locations, especially university towns and certain major cities.
A woman can be trusted, but not all women can be trusted.
@MangoWOW - Well, that’s the rub, isn’t it? A lot of states have rape prosecuting
statutes which prevent any investigation into a woman’s sexual history
if she is an alleged rape victim. Which makes sense, because if the
defense attorney was allowed to investigate your sexual history and
dredge it up in court, you probably wouldn’t ever go to the police if
you WERE raped. The point is that even women who have been sexually promiscuous in the past don’t deserve to be raped or treated unfairly in court.
I think the not prosecuting on false charges bit kind of goes along the same lines. If a woman is too afraid that she might identify the wrong person, she won’t report the rape. Which is why if you ever are raped, get a rape kit. If they have the DNA, it prevents the wrong person from being thrown in jail.
@lejosdeaqui - Im not talking about a promiscuous history. Im talking about a history full or false accusations. If its shown that she has… wrongfully takes advantage of the legal system (lets say) then I believe a sense of skepticism should be brought in when investigating. It’s sort of like the boy who cried wolf here. Hopefully she doesn’t get eaten in the end.
@puella_sapiens216 - Maybe women should just learn to enjoy rape. I mean, it can’t be all that bad…?
psychologically speaking. eyewitness accounts even personal experiences are inaccurate. that’s because if you are in a traumatic situation you may think of someone who would do this to you based on personal experience or stereotypes or someone who has been through a similar situation and assimilate particular characteristics of someone else and make it into a “different” person.
I’d say it depends on the woman. To knowingly wrongly accuse someone of something so heinous is awful.
@Pensamientos@revelife - I agree with you. The alleged rapist is innocent until proven a rapist. The accuser is innocent until proven a liar. We have investigators and a court system for a reason.
@andfeud - Troll harder.
no victim should ever just be trusted, there should always be measures taken to prove their accusations.
@OhItWontBeForever - the problem with a lot of rape victims is that they don’t take measures themselves to make sure their rapist is caught. most women after they’re raped go home and take a shower and try to scrub themselves clean when they’re actually scrubbing away traces of dna that could get their racist behind bars.
@soyeahthatswhathappened - That’s true. That sucks. But this article shows they can do analysis on the sperm, if it got into her.
There are going to be those “crazies” that lie but it’s all in the evidence. No DNA match, the man goes free.
Can a woman be trusted concerning a rape accusation?
More so than RetardedRicky.
That sad fuck used up his pity points last year.
@SuperEvilPopTart64 - You know you like it.
Ofcourse women should be trusted, as long as DNA tests are done.And they should definately be brought up on charges for false crimes, because once someone’s name is slandered it is hard to stop this from affecting their life. If an employer hears this he may treat the employee differently, friends may wonder etc. Not nice or fair.
What kind of fucked up question is this?
Stupid rapists. You don’t leave your sperm with her, that is like leaving millions of tiny fingerprints!
There is no need for a ski mask if you are going to leave that kind of evidence.
Did they take into account the trauma factor? A woman can visually picture the guy and through pressure and fear point her finger at someone else entirely (that looks about the same). It’s sounds like the same probability of identifying someone in any criminal case.
lol
Someone makes an excellent point, that many women do not go to the hospital immediately after being raped, and therefore the test results are inaccurate. Second, how many women are raped by someone they know and don’t report it? Or are intoxicated (on alcohol or something worse that a douchey guy slipped her?) and therefore don’t know what the hell happened or exactly who it was? I’m betting a lot. Sexual assault and rape are not crimes to be taken lightly; they leave very long-lasting scars. Every woman who says she has been raped needs to be taken seriously. Otherwise, we might as well be in some awful third-world or Mid-East country where women have no rights (I hate to make such sweeping generalizations about those countries, as they are not necessarily all awful places or misogynistic, but I’m sure you know what I mean).
Too many women do not come forward about the crimes committed against them, specifically because they are afraid that they won’t be taken seriously or they feel ashamed, like it was their fault. Remember that even if 1 in 4 women are wrong about who attacked them, 3 in 4 are not. The article makes this point very clearly. Just because some are wrong about which bastard did it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. False accusations and wrong convictions happen in all forms of crime.
EVERY WOMAN NEEDS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
@misuriver - EXACTLY.
Maybe we should just give rapists the benefit of the doubt.
No. Bitches try to play a dude sometimes….
No case should be a matter of trust. It’s a matter of investigation to uncover the truth. Women WILL lie about such things for any number of emotional or material issues. So will men. When it comes to ANY case involving sex- up to and including an alleged violent rape- no party to the case can be counted upon to be completely candid or able to offer a sober, rational outlook. An investigator has to enter the case without any preconceived notions.