April 23, 2010

  • 11-Year-Old Pregnant

    An 11-year-old girl is pregnant by from her stepfather.  She is four months into her pregnancy.

     

    (This is not the girl.  It is a photo of an 11-year-old girl to give it perspective).

    According to an article, women’s groups are putting pressure on the girl to have an abortion.  The girl wants to have the baby.  Here is the link:  Link

    Mexico City passed a law a few years back that only allowed abortions in the first three months of pregnancy. 

    Do you think an 11-year-old should have an abortion?

     

Comments (328)

  • This frightens me.

  • That is messed up.

  • That’s sad. Why traumatize her more with an abortion.

  • not if she doesn’t want to.

  • Poor thing shouldn’t even have to be making this decision, she’s only 11 ):

  • I didn’t even know an 11 year old could get pregnant. Sheesh!

  • shouldn’t women’s groups be into giving her the freedom of choice?  Is it a great situation? no.  Should she have an abortion?  only if SHE wants to.

  • I think she’s going to need serious help (mental and otherwise) either way. In my opinion, she should probably get an abortion, if that is a decision that she is comfortable with. It would be hard on the child and her to go full term.

  • @ShimmerBodyCream - The same reason that we may want to traumatize a a cancer patient with chemotherapy.

  • No! Could you imagine how much MORE traumatizing it would be to be forced to get an abortion after you stepfather impregnated you?
    Leave the poor girl alone, maybe try being supportive. Sheeze.

  • Wow, that whole issue is so screwed up. I feel bad for her. I guess if having the baby places her at risk, then yeah. Like, maybe her hips aren’t fully developed. Poor thing.

  • It’s her choice.

  • @TheSmokeMonster - killing unborn babies and killing a disease. little bit different.

  • @MyxlDove - It can start at a very early age. I think the youngest is 11 these days. I remember when a girl didn’t start until 16…huh.

    I think it is sad, but I don’t know what my answer should be to that. My position is that abortion is never a good way out…hopefully her parents are helping her in this decision.

  • i think abortion would be a good idea…..

  • If she doesn’t want to give it up, she shouldn’t. Being forced or talked into an abortion would only traumatize her more.

  • So, women have the right to choose, until they choose something that “peaople who know better” don’t like. It’s all stupid. Not like the situation is a good one to be in anyway.

  • @ShimmerBodyCream -  killing unborn babies and killing a disease. little bit different.

    Sure, and we can have that debate if you’d like.

    But “trauma” itself isn’t a reason not to have a procedure. In this case, the girl was raped by her father. I’d imagine that carrying the child to term may be a little bad, emotionally; and given her young age, taxing physically.

    The choice would eventually be hers to make, but if she decides that the reasons for not having the child is better the reasons having it, the procedure may be worth it.

  • I got pregnant when I was 10, through similar circumstances to this poor girl. I lost the baby due to my body simply being too small and weak to be able to support the pregnancy. For religious reasons I did not consider abortion and I think as long as this year girl wants her baby and she has a good support network of family (not including this step father obviously) then she should be allowed to have her baby. I am now 18 and I wish everyday that I had had my baby, she would be 7 and a half now and I have a 6 year sister and every time I look at my sister I see the child I could have had and this breaks my heart every single time. I think if she had an abortion that it is a decision she may regret in the future but that being said she is incredibly and may regret having the baby even more.

  • omg this is awful! I dont know I guess it would be up to her, but I  really think she should talk to someone. Why would she want the baby? I do think it be better to give it up for adoption, but omg I am lost for words here.

  • @TheSmokeMonster - in the article, it said that she will be under medical watch once she reaches 7 months just in case since she is so young and that she will be having a c-section.  The child will then be raised by the grandma.

    I think trauma is relevant person to person.  It could be traumatic to have the baby, but if she is dead-set against abortion, which the article implied, then it could be more traumatic to have an abortion.

  • It’s her choice.

  • I applaud the girl for choosing life. I pray that she has a support structure around her to help her through it all. And I’m dismayed, but not surprised, to see pro-choicers want to make her choice for her.

    @TheSmokeMonster - For heaven’s sake, a baby is not a disease!

  • @chaotic_imperfection -  I got pregnant when I was 10.. I lost the baby due to my body simply being too small and weak to be able to support the pregnancy.

    God works in mysterious ways. Maybe He performed the abortion?

  • @TheSmokeMonster - Exactly. The choice is hers. Not abortion activists chasing her around with a speculum, knives, and suctioning tools.

  • @imasilentheart - her parents…. meh.  Her step-dad helped her get pregnant.

  • @AubreyBird - Ah, thanks for info.

    I think trauma is relevant person to person.  It could be traumatic to have the baby, but if she is dead-set against abortion, which the article implied, then it could be more traumatic to have an abortion.

    Yes, I fairly agree with this notion.

    My main concern is that most eleven-year-olds probably don’t have the perspective to make the best decision for herself– emotionally, financially, medically. There may be good reason to push the abortion despite some objection, but yeah, point taken.

  • Wow. This is a really scary situation, and frankly I’m torn between different opinions about this. One part of me says that for her own health and ability to care for a baby, she needs to have the abortion, but the bigger part of me (literally my stomach) is leaning me in the direction of abortion is murder. I truly do believe abortion is murder, but I also believe that abortion should be legal because if a woman wants one bad enough, she’s going to do something to possibly harm her body in order to do it. Ultimately, this is the girl’s body, but at the same time I find myself thinking that she really isn’t old enough to make this decision. Again, I’m completely torn over my opinion on this issue. Congrats, you’ve stumped me with this one, Dan!

    On another note, I do have a few opinions on what should happen to the step-father that did this to her, but they include a few too many not-so-polite words for me to litter someone else’s site with.

  • Let the baby live, and help the poor girl to raise it. Why take something like a teenage pregnancy and make it evem worse by adding a murder to it?

  • This is exactly the issue that I struggle with in the abortion debate. If that was my daughter, I’d have a very hard time watching her go through pregnancy and childbirth when she’s still just a little girl. Especially since I’d probably be in prison for giving her stepfather a tallywhackerectomy. 

  • I’d like to say that the choice should be up to her… but she’s an 11 yr old child.  How the hell does an 11 yr old understand the ramificaitons of her deciscion?  (Regardless of what the decision is in this situation.)  Argh.  I just don’t know. 

    11 yr olds should never be placed in this situation in the first place.  Stepdaddy needs to have his balls cut off, the fucker.

  • @saintvi - I know what you mean… “tallywhackerectomy” heeeheeheehee…

    I personally think that if she doesn’t want to have an abortion, then she shouldn’t have to. I do hope that if she keeps the child her pregnancy and the childbirth go well.

  • That’s disgusting.
    I hope the stepfather gets locked up or dies.

  • @jwfarns - Do you know for sure she doesn’t have a bio father that she gets support from? If not then just take the stupid S off and you get a singular word.

  • ‘should’? not necessarily. ‘should be able to’? yes.

  • What a brave little girl. Nobody should pressure her into having an abortion. Having a baby at her age is awful, but I think the physical and emotional trauma of having an abortion would be just as bad, if not worse. And anyway, pro-choicers should respect her choice. Duh.

  • She has opted not to, you can’t force her to do it.

  • Should’ve aborted the 11 year old girl when they the chance. 

  • yes.

  • If it’s really about the woman’s right to choose, then they should respect her choice not to.

  • It’s up to her.

  • @AubreyBird - I agree.  But I guess it’s only ‘freedom of choice’ if it falls in line with THEIR ideals.

  • @DirtyAndShaken - And it’s only freedom of speech when it falls in line with YOUR ideals.

  • She wants the baby.  Her mom is planning to help her raise her.  I don’t see any reason to pressure that poor girl into killing her daughter, even if the pregnancy isn’t ideal.

  • @MagisterTom - Why take something like a teenage pregnancy and make it evem worse by adding a murder to it?

    Because it’s not even teenage pregnancy, and it was the result of incestral rape.

  • @MyxlDove - http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

  • @TheSmokeMonster - So add murder onto the problems?

  • I’m horrified at this story, I just can’t even begin to explain what I think of it.

  • Well, if she wants the baby, she wants the baby. That’s the beauty of choice.

  • That makes me want to cry. She’s being so incredibly strong though and very brave. I think that she should keep he baby since she wants i. 

  • It’s interesting that “pro-choice” has begun to be associated with “you must have an abortion.”  Pro-choice activists need to be comfortable with any choice a woman/young woman might make.  If this girl wants to have her baby, that’s her right.  It is a little scary, though, that she didn’t really have the legal right to make the opposite choice, especially when you consider that they know ahead of time that she’ll need a c-section.

  • @TheSmokeMonster - Me personally?  No.  I don’t censor anyone’s right to say what they want to say nor did I say they should be censored.  They have every right to speak out on the topic.  I was pointing out the irony of supporting a woman’s freedom of choice, yet are pressuring her to have an abortion when she doesn’t want to (obviously not supporting her choice).  I will defend the First Amendment until I die, even for things I don’t want to hear or disagree with.

  • If she doesn’t want an abortion she shouldn’t be forced to have one. Even though she’s only 11 she’s still the mother and it’s her decision. 

  • Having an abortion can be very traumatizing in itself. No need to traumatize her twice. Those women’s groups should mind their own business if their opinions weren’t asked.

  • [An 11-year-old girl is pregnant by from her stepfather]

    WAIT A MINUTE!  What the fuck?!?!?  You don’t use “by” and “from” together!!! Use only ONE of them!  JEEZ!!

    What @suggestivetongue - said.

  • I can’t really say for sure if she should have an abortion or not. All I can say is, her body is underdeveloped, and by carrying the baby full-term, she puts herself, and the baby at a severe risk.

    With that said, I think the girl should weigh ALL of her options, and talk to her doctor[s] with a trusted adult, and decide if she wants to keep the baby or not. Ultimately, the choice is hers whether or not she wants to take this risk.

    I can’t really say what I would do in her shoes, and I can’t really say what I would do if I had an eleven year old child that was impregnated by rape…I’d like to say that I’d be there for my little girl, and do everything I can to help her through such a tough ordeal, but I can’t say, however, that I wouldn’t try to sway her one way, or the other, you know? It’s one of those things where I’d actually have to be in that position to know for sure. I know for a fact, that I couldn’t handle motherhood at eleven years old!

    It is sickening that someone would tear into this child’s innocence, though…

  • It’s The Color Purple for real.

  • I think that step father should be put in jail.
    I don’t agree with abortion but I really hope that young girl has a solid support system around her, and I applaud her for not having an abortion.

  • Ok I just read the article. He is in jail. Thank God!!
    And I totally agree with this abortion law.
    “Quintana Roo, the Yucatan state that is home to the popular resort destination Cancun, has a similar amendment. Abortion is allowed there only in cases of rape and when the mother’s life is at risk, and only within the first 90 days of pregnancy.”
    We need that here.

  • It is a tragedy that her stepfather violated her body and her innocence…and then got her pregnant as well.  I am of the opinion that abortion should only be an option in the case of the mother’s life being at risk, and this most definitely falls under that.  Being she is now a mother herself even at such a young age, I do not believe that decision can be made by anyone but her.  The rape was traumatic as it stands.  Forcing her to abort a child that she wants to keep would be even more damaging.  If she wants to take the chance in an effort to keep her child, that is her choice.  Yes, inform her of all the dangers (both of keeping the pregnancy AND aborting it).  But ultimately the decision is hers.

    @radicalramblings

    Exactly.  If that’s what they truly believe, then they should be fine with letting her make her choice.

    @TheSmokeMonster

    Really…could you be a bit more compassionate instead of so callous?

  • I can’t imagine why she would want to share a child with her stepfather but it is her choice.

  • thats ridiculous

    im so sick of hearing about adults raping kidshows a tiny little girl going to be able to do this  its really sweet thats shes so into motherhood tho!God bless her & the baby

  • Nope, I sure don’t…but she deserves so big time care and support and a loving adoptive family.

  • An 11-year-old should have an abortion if she wants one.  I think it would be a good idea in most cases, but the final choice is really up to her.

  • yeah isnt 4 months a little too late for an abortion?

  • I think we should be worried about why the step father is having sex with an 11 year old girl. Furthermore, child birth could kill her, she has a very small frame. Children having children is never okay- if she decides to give birth to the child, I don’t believe she should be able to raise it. Especially considering the circumstances. 

  • It’s her choice, but either way, her poor little body is going to get wrecked (if it isn’t already). I hate hearing stories like this :(

  • I wanna kill her stepfather. 

  • Uh, wow?! The girl shouldn’t be forced into anything. If she wants to screw up her life with a baby, so be it.

  • I want to beat up on her step-father right now. 

  • anyone else think it’s funny how the dumbasses keep talking about how she should have an abortion if she want’s one when it’s been made very clear that she DOESNT WANT ONE!. fuck people wake the fucking fuck up. this is about her right to CHOOSE, not her right to do what you would choose. so much for pro-choice.

  • Uhm… was it consensual? If so, that’s disturbing as hell. If not, the poor girl has no clue what she’s getting into. She’s so young. Barely gone through puberty…

  • @ShimmerBodyCream - You’re right on the mark.

    @TheSmokeMonster - since He’s the Creator, He alone has that prerogative.

  • Now let’s see them make the argument that they’re not “pro-abortion,” but ”pro-choice.” That kinda doesn’t fly when you actually push someone to choose one side or the other.

    Either you support abortions or you do not. You can think the fetus is a human baby or you can think it’s something else entirely. I don’t think there can be a third choice that says, “I don’t necessarily think it’s right and I wouldn’t do it but it’s her choice.” Is it murder or not? CHOOSE.

  • @TheSmokeMonster -

    Sure, and we can have that debate if you’d like.

    But “trauma” itself isn’t a reason not to have a procedure. In this case, the girl was raped by her father. I’d imagine that carrying the child to term may be a little bad, emotionally; and given her young age, taxing physically.

    The choice would eventually be hers to make, but if she decides that the reasons for not having the child is better the reasons having it, the procedure may be worth it.

      Of course the choice would be hers to make. The choice to kill their children, born or unborn, is in the hands of every parent.  That has no bearing on the morality of it. Calling it a procedure does not change the immorality of  the action.

  • Yes I do think this poor child needs to have an abortion and the asshole who raped her needs to be castrated and put to death.

  • I’m proud of her, though. The only case in which I think an abortion can be pardoned are when the mother’s life is in serious immediate danger. Considering babies have survived at around 5 months, she should be able to carry it at least that far and have a c-section as soon as it’s safe to have one (which seems to be her plan). Unless it’s almost certainly going to kill her and the baby, she should have it (but doesn’t HAVE to keep it).

    That’s a tough decision to make for such a young girl. I’m touched. :)

  • I knew girls got into the whole hormonal stage before boys do on average but I didn’t know the minimum age started so early. 11??! Geeze. WTF man. 

    It’s really her choice… but legally, do people that young have that much “free” rein over their own lives? 

  • Wow…at first, just reading this, I thought “how sad…” you know? But then I read the article itself and now I’m thinking, “well, if she wants to have this baby and keep it, then let her.” I admire her for her bravery, honestly. That’s much more than an eleven year old can take, and not only is she going to take it, but she’s happy about it. It’s sad, yes, but amazing at the same time.

  • Do you think a man should rape his ELEVEN YEAR OLD stepdaughter?

    Mega fucked up.

  • She should not be pressured to have an abortion.

  • *headdesk* Just wait until she realizes that taking care of a real baby ain’t like those fucking Baby Born dolls.

    Well, she fucked up…

  • crazy women groups. need to mind their own damn business…..

    prob all middle aged women with nothing better to do so they meddle in other people’s affairs.
    liikkeee really??…..no. go sit your fat asses down and do some knitting.
    this poor child has already been through enough. leave her alone.

  • she definitely should not be forced to have one against her will.

  • @MyxlDove - I do believe I heard the youngest girl to get pregnant/have a baby was 5. Don’t quote me on that.

    Actually…. http://www.damninteresting.com/historys-youngest-mother      http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/05/dayintech_0514
    Interesting.

  • I think the idea is that the women tell her to in fear of her life when trying to give birth to the child. Who knows if the girl’s health wil be at risk of death due to complications or whatever. It is her choice, but there will always be that risk involved. 

  • @ShimmerBodyCream - exactly.  Both things will haunt her the rest of her life.  Let her give life into the world and be at peace and heal, not be saddled with a death in addition.

  • @ForeverLove_xx - I remember hearing about that, yeah.

  • I’m just sick of these supposedly “pro-choice” activists making an example of this poor child and offering her up on the altar of their cause.

    Leave the poor girl alone!

  • These stupid ass Conservative groups want to hold on to their pro-life-family-values bullshit, even when it’s the case of an eleven year old girl.  

    AN ELEVEN YEAR OLD GIRL.  

    An abortion is probably the best option for her now.  Her body can’t handle having a baby.  She will be physically and mentally crippled for the rest of her life if she has this baby.  And honestly, what the fuck does an eleven year old know about having kids or raising one for that matter?  She’s either in 5th or 6th grade for crying out loud!  What were you like at that age?  Could you handle having a child?!  

    I highly, highly doubt it.  She can’t make this decision by herself.  She just can’t.  This is insane.

    Her stepdad needs to get his ass whooped.

  • i’m kinda torn on what i would do. it seems like i just heard of a really young girl dying after trying to give birth. id hate for her to have to lose her life because of her step father. then again, why should the baby suffer? soooo idk what to think here.

  • If she wants to have the baby she should be allowed to at least try. She’s going to have a rough time of it either way. I can’t imagine trying to force an abortion on an unwilling child who has already been molested. It would be like raping her all over again, for them to forcibly perform an abortion. She didn’t get a choice about being molested and she needs to have her power given back to her. She should be able to decide for herself and have her pregnancy closely monitored in the mean time.

  • This is so wrong. :/

  • @imasilentheart - What, exactly, in this story make you think she has a dad around?  Get real, Pollyanna.  http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/23/year-old-mexican-rape-victim-wants-baby/

  • How ’bout public execution of the step-father after torture so that stuff like this doesn’t happen and we don’t have to think about questions like this?

    Just thinking out-loud…

  • Please tell me that this is a joke.

  • Not if she doesn’t want to.  It is her choice.

  • @firetyger - Exactly.  If that’s what they truly believe, then they should be fine with letting her make her choice.

    Except, here, we’re talking about an eleven-year-old child. Children of that age isnt’ experience, isn’t responsible, and isn’t smart.

    Eleven is too young to drink, drive, gamble, or live alone. The reasons embedded in those age policies are reasons for seperating some of the decision-making power from the child.

    Really…could you be a bit more compassionate instead of so callous?

    No, compassion isn’t one of my more accessible emotions; and give me more credit than that! I wasn’t being callous, I was being intentionally hurtful.

  • If she wants the baby she has a right to keep it. It’s HERS after all. Yeah, it’s from her step-father, but it’s still her child. If she wants to keep it she should be able to.

  • @NightCometh - Let her give life into the world and be at peace and heal, not be saddled with a death in addition.

    No. Let her risk health. Allow a reminder of her step-father’s violation fester and grow. Endow her with a child she cannot care for, and if she survives, saddle her with the rest of her life decisions made by an eleven-year-old.

  • @lonelywanderer2 - She should not be pressured to have an abortion.

    How nicely you ignore the regular picket lines outside of planed parenthood and outside of abortion clinics pressuring pregnant mothers not to abort.

    The freedom of speech goes both ways.

  • @TheSmokeMonster - How beautiful for an 11 year old to redeem her father’s sin. :)

  • @DirtyAndShaken -  I was pointing out the irony of supporting a woman’s freedom of choice, yet are pressuring her to have an abortion when she doesn’t want to (obviously not supporting her choice).  I will defend the First Amendment until I die, even for things I don’t want to hear or disagree with.

    Thank you for that reasonable response to that curtly ambigious reply. ^^

    Okay, my idea was this:  Abortion groups “pressuring” the child to abort doesn’t take away choice. These groups are exercising their freedom of speech, their attempt at persuasion no differently than pro-choice advocates with signs, and demonstrations, and their pleas in the consideration of life.

  • @loneXwolfe - If she wants the baby she has a right to keep it. It’s HERS after all. Yeah, it’s from her step-father, but it’s still her child. If she wants to keep it she should be able to.

    Well, there are several dimensions in this case that would shift some of the choice away from the child:

    Health: Is an eleven-year old in the best position to make medical decisions? Most eleven-year-olds don’t know about sex, much less engange in it. Understanding the medical risks of pergnancy and child-birth may simply beyond the faculties and experiences of an eleven-year-old.

    Cost: Who would bear the cost of the birth and raising the child? The economics and child-rearing would probably be taken care of by the girl’s mother. It is simply beyond the financial competancy and the physical capabilities of an eleven-year-old girl to raise a newborn.

    So the considerations due a mentally competent, self-sufficient woman over her reproductive desitny is mitigated in the case of an eleven-year old girl.

  • Poor girl.  Bless her heart.

    But no one should have an abortion.  Its not the innocent baby’s fault.

  • @AubreyBird - I thought women’s groups fought for women’s rights. Those guys are doing the oppose. I know she’s young but I believe all women should have a choice regarding their offspring whatever that choice maybe.

  • @TheSmokeMonster - I never once said it was.  And i don’t believe my comment was directed at you. 

  • She should only get the abortion if it is her decision…but thats not the decision she chose…she has just as much say in her pregnancy as any other expectant mother does…the womens group should back off of pressuring her to get an abortion and support her in her decision to keep her baby…

  • @CrystallineFigurines - Bless her heart.

    Yes! Lets. If her eleven-year-old frame is to survive childbirth, she’d need that extra metaphysically endowed cardiovascular output.

    But no one should have an abortion.  Its not the innocent baby’s fault.

    In the case of rape, it’s not the girl’s fault either.

  • I sure as hell don’t think an 11-year-old girl should have a baby. But no one can force her into an abortion, it’s her decision if she wants to throw her teenage years away to keep it.

  • abortion is never a good idea it is called adoption i hope that man is thrown into jail

  • She must be such a strong girl. Us on Xanga can do NOTHING more than wish her the best

  • Yes, it’s her choice.  I would be very vigilant about monitoring her physical well-being.  Then, I would have to insist that she make adoption her first choice for the baby.  The stoopdud needs to be castrated.

  • People saying an abortion is the best option don’t know the whole situation. Obviously I don’t either, but I’m sure her family (excluding her step-father) helped her make the rational decision of not aborting the child. If you read the article, you would see that her grandmother is going to adopt the child and take it in as her own.

  • And these womens rights groups need to back off. They say they’re pro-choice, but they’re pressuring her to get an abortion. Hmm.

  • @MyxlDove - IDK…I could’ve gotten pregnant at 10. :-| My cousin, 8. Very sad situation all around. 

  • oh how sad that is awsful for that to happen to her….but if she does not want an abrotion then dont make her……i mean its not the babys fault that this happend but it is sooooooo sad

  • If the girl doesn’t want to have an abortion, then she should not be made to have one. If she was asking to have an abortion, I would also say she should not be prevented from having one. Choice is choice.

  • OMG im a couple of years older then her and i never want to become pregnant and how disgusting is it that her step farther made her pregnant what a rotten man

  • Although it sounds horrible, but I think she should have the abortion b/c it’s just awful to be an 11 yr old mom. I know it’s a living thing in there, but she has a whole future to live. There’s so many things that she has to do with life, and having a kid would change that. This is only my opinion. Besides.. i really hope the step father goes the jail. I hate these kind of people, why the f$%#%# are you raping an 11 yr old? F$%$#% D#$%#%ck morons.

    Step father raping step daughter should really be prevented… and mothers should stop having new husbands who rape their own daughters. It is kind of upsetting to hear.

  • Umm… Did you ever consider your news source? Fox News is known for being conservative despite their “Fair and Balanced” slogan.

    Honestly dude. If you’re going to put up a link from a known conservative news source, also include one from a known liberal news source. Because as far as I can tell, your source is not accurately portraying the situation.Also, of course she’s not going to give up the kid. She’s got a ton of religious pressure on her. Mexico is such a catholic country that she’s been raised to never even consider the possibility of abortion. Besides, I doubt she even understands the responsibility she’ll have to her child or the type of life her child will have after it’s born. That kid is going to have a hell of a time and just because grandma may be raising him or her doesn’t mean that the incestuous circumstances of its conception will ever be hushed up.

  • This is so sad… I hope that stepfather gets raped in prison every day until he dies.

    I don’t even have an opinion on this subject, I just hope that whatever choice she makes, everything works out for her.
    Unfortunately children having children is not as rare as it seems. I feel sorry that she has to go through this, because she does not have a “good” option. That guy took her childhood away from her, and even her ability to make a choice that won’t haunt her forever.

    Ugh, I get so angry when I hear about things like this. I don’t say this often but I really hope that man who raped her suffers endlessly.

  • @MyxlDove - Thats what i was going to say!

  • I agree with @MyxlDove - 

  • But she’s only 11! Being a mother when you’re still a child! I hope that karma gets that monster.

    But I feel that there is something in todays society that says “having babies is a good thing”… I mean, look at the little girls buying baby dolls to play with. Of course a girl at that age would want a REAL one…… I’m just not sure if she’s making a rational choice, even if it is hers to begin with.

  • @MyxlDove - Hah. Someone taught me the phrase, “If you bleed, you can breed.”

    And some girls start getting their periods really early. Sssoooo…

    Anyway, this is kind of a touchy situation. Although I do agree with the notion that the girl should be able to make a choice on what she wants to do, it’s a bit shaky with this situation seeing as the girl is eleven years old and probably does not understand the physical and emotional burden that comes along with pregnancy, birth and caring for a baby.

    So, I’m taking a neutral stance on this situation and hoping for the best.

  • Do you think an 11-year-old should have an abortion? Seriously? DO YOU THINK AN 11 YEAR OLD SHOULD HAVE A BABY? I’m surprised she hasn’t had a miscarriage… I imagine it would be a dangerous pregnancy or at least birth… Horrifying.

    @imasilentheart - More like 8 or 9, due to hormones in dairy and meat and childhood obesity. I was a really heavy kid and got the first one at 9 and it started regularly at 10. Really scary when you’re too young to actually know what it is.

  • @ShimmerBodyCream - 

    Well…pregnancy is considered a diseased state for any women, but especially for a child.  
    Anyway, it should be her decision.  It’s certainly good for her to know her options… 
    from the article: “Maria Luisa Sanchez Fuentes, director of the Information Group on Reproductive Choice, says her organization and others just wanted to inform the girl and her mother of their choices, and that they would never want to force anyone to have an abortion against her will.”
    There are no quotations in the article saying anything about being harassed, only quotations about how the girl wants to have the baby.  The assertion comes from the journalist only, and a Fox news journalist at that. Funny how women’s rights groups are demonized for trying to give choice and opportunity, while religion regularly forces ideals onto people everywhere everyday.

  • She is a little girl。This frightens me!

  • It reminds me of a case here in Mexico when this girl {also raped} wanted to have an abortion, but all the ultra puritans where telling her “you are horrible, dont do it, you are going to hell” and all that stuffs, and lots of people were after her.
     It’s so upseting that people forces you to do things you don’t really want and specially when they are such a big personal desitions, on one hand this girl was having a hard time with people calling her million things, and in the other, this one girl dealing with people telling her to abort.

  • This is disgusting.  However, it is just hypocritical for the abortion rights people to say she has a choice, as long as it is for an abortion.  So now it’s going toward force abortion? I hope not.  I would think not.  Poor girl has gone through enough & will go through more.  =/  

  • It’s a poor thing that the little girl who don’t know what’s going on is unleashed to such a horrific act.

    Save The Earth

  • I believe she should have the abortion. Ofcorse any little girl is going to want to keep her baby, it’s natural, but her poor little body isn’t ready for that kind of pressure and adult situation. I also don’t think she should have the baby because her own mother clearing did a poor job caring for her and shouldn’t and I believe wouldn’t be any help the in the baby’s life. I myself have had an abortion (not casually said) and I know how scary and painful it is, but there is no way she’s ready for this, mentally, physically, or emotionally.

  • no

  • Women’s groups are pressuring her to abort.

    I thought it was a choice. Not an abortion. She wants to keep the baby, thats the choice’s seh’s made, end of story. Its disgusting that they are using the rape of this child as a platform to launch their own abortion agenda-which is obviously only an abortion agenda, and not a ‘choice’ one. The girl has heard her options from abortion groups, from adoption agencies; she has heard the dangers of childbirth, and is still opting to keep the baby. She obviously KNOWS her options, yet she has made this selfless choice of life. ‘Abortion rights’ groups ought to be able to respect that;I thought there was only ‘choice’, and not abortion. Evidently, that is not the case.

    @ShimmerBodyCream - ahahahaha. Graphic depiction. Its funny to think of….sorta.

  • hell yeah she should have an abortion,
    shes gonna die if she doesnt.
    poor little girl

  • Poor girl! She shouldn’t have to go through this at her age! If she wants to keep it she should be allowed to as well as if she doesn’t want it. It should be her decision and hers alone. It is going to be extreremly rough for her though. :(  

  • That’s awful. But no, she could adopt.

  • @randomneuralfirings - Nah, it’s more like a parasite. If I were her, I’d get the abortion. Since I’m not her, I think she should choose what’s best for herself. Now on to that pervert….what to do about him?

  • jeez she’s sick

  • It’s up to her. But I think so, yes. She is so at risk.

    It would be very sad for the baby to have it’s (step-)grandfather as its father. That would be horrid, and very confusing. I am wondering why the girl wants to have the baby. She is way too young to be going into labour, wow.

    This is a horrible story.

  • @TheSmokeMonster - Of course it does.  I would hope neither “side” would pressure this young lady, only love and support her.

  • I believe that if this young woman decides to have an abortion (she thinks it’s the best decision for her life), she ought to have the option available in this situation.

  • a baby has a baby,that’s weird but at least,she wants to keep the baby.she is a responsible mom,.we got to support her

  • what is happening to this world.

  • Abortion or not, who cares.

    What the hell is an 11 year old going to do with a baby?  The mom says it’ll be like a brother/sister, and the kids says “but it’ll still be my baby”

    -_-

    You don’t want to have an abortion?  Fine.  Adoption. 

    Clearly this isn’t a healthy situation for a baby to come into.

  • I find it sad that these women activists think the only solution is to kill the baby. Rather than someone being there to tell the girl no matter what decision she makes, she will be supported, she’s being told to go against what she feels is right. 

    They’re so bloody busy assuming that a girl wants her right to abort, that they cannot see a girl deciding against it. I am infuriated for her, infuriated at these overcompensating bimboes making everything their business and destroying what little bit of identity and childhood this poor girl has left, and infuriated that her relationship with men will be forever marred by a father-figure who abused his position. 
    UCH!!! 

  • @tenshii_rage - amen to that. 

  • I think it is sad.My position is that abortion is never a good way out…

  • its a bit young or isn’t it? ohh bad world!!!!!

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  • an 11 year old shouldnt even be hving sex omg i feel sick

  • wow.

  • the choice is hers, but clearly an 11 year old is not capable of raising a child, nor are her parents who should both be hung in the streets

  • Maybe she should have aborted the baby knowing what the stats are for young mothers. But however it is her baby, it is her body, and it is her choice. I don’t think this is a decision an 11 year old can make without fully understanding the consequences of a baby on her life.

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  • They are not “pressuring” her to have an abortion.  That is just spin.  They might be letting her know her options.

    At 11, this is not even a choice she is mature enough to handle.  Who is going to help her with such a choice?  Her mother?  She has proven to be pretty short in that department.  After all, it was the mother who chose to bring the scum bag into the life of the family.  She likely also chose to ignore the fact that he was raping at least one of her children.

    Any baby born should NOT be raised by the victim’s mother.  She has proven herself to be woefully lacking in the ability to raise children.

    The girl should not be made a pawn in this sort of debate.  The mother should be arrested and the step father should be in prison for life.

  • i think her mom should decide, then have the stepfather dealt with

  • I think it’s her choice. 

  • Oh my gosh.

  • @imasilentheart - Unfortunately, 11 isn’t the youngest age for girls to start their periods. I started when I was nine. I know a couple other women my age that started between nine and ten. It’s sad knowing that the wrong situation at the wrong time could land a nine year old in this same position.

    My heart goes out to this little girl, because she is in no way ready for this child, but with all the negativity over abortion and the rants and raves about “Baby killers” not “Freedom of choice” has probably scared the poor thing into keeping it when there’s no healthy reason to keep it. No, moral obligation is not a healthy reason.

    I don’t think the typical abortion debate really applies here, either.

  • What’s messed up is that you put up a picture of a random 11 year old.  What if that girl read this blog.

  • wow. She already had one adult doing things presuemably against her will with her body. What right do these other adults think they have to do things against her will to her body? If she wants to allow the pregnancy to continue, and there is no medical reason to stop the pregnancy, then let her do it.

    and shoot the step dad.

  • @frozencherries - @AubreyBird - @TheSmokeMonster - @jeebies - @Conversekiddo3 - @randomneuralfirings - @ShimmerBodyCream - how could she have a choice? she’s 11! if she wanted to have a mole removed, she’d need parental consent. but as soon as she becomes pregnant (by “choice” or not– remember, there is no “consensual” sex legally for an 11-year old. according to the US law at least, her situation is statutory rape.) she has the ability to somehow make decisions for her life and another’s? she is a child!

  • what a tough and great girl!

    i’m on ur back, girl!go have a baby, i’m sure u r going to be a really great mom!she’s (her soon to be daughter)lucky to have a mom like u!

  • If she wanted to, she should have had the abortion much much much earlier. I’m personally 100% against abortions past the first trimester, but in the end it’s her decision. If she wants to have the baby, okay. Her body, her baby. NO ONE should be pressuring her into doing anything other than what she feels is right.

  • No.  I know a girl who got pregnant by her father when she was eleven and her grandparents forced her to get an abortion.  Can you even imagine how traumatic that would be?  ”Woman’s groups” need to stop acting as if everyone who gets pregnant as a result of rape automatically wants to get rid of their baby.  Maybe they just want to be left alone and have some say over their bodies again.  What ever happened to the right to choose anyway?  Leave the poor girl freaking alone.

  • Abortion. I’m not just saying it because I’m Pro-Choice but, I went through a similar situation at 14, but I didn’t know until I had a miscarriage and that was horrible, 1)That it had happened and 2)I was pregnant by rape. I’m mainly saying it because I have two younger siblings both females, 15 and (soon to be) 6. I know if my younger sister got pregnant I would flip on her and tell her I’ve been there and she’s far too young, plus she doesn’t work and my parents wouldn’t want to handle that due to the fact they’re (By my Father being the only one working)  not financially suited to raise another child. I know a lot of Pro-Lifers are like, “It’s a gift from God, she should have it.”
    You don’t allow sex before marriage but an 11 year old should have a baby? Please fight those statistics for me with reason. I think due to her age an abortion should be indefinite. Plus she probably hasn’t hit a legitimate puberty form so her bodies going to be collapsing in on itself screaming it’s too soon for this!

  • Not if she doesn’t want to.

    But wow, her life is screwed up before it even started..

  • @royal_diadem - She’s pregnant with her step father’s baby. Forcing her to go through an abortion against her will after she has most likely been raped and abused is just insult to injury. She is pregnant and she doesn’t want an abortion. The situation with the baby needs to be handled after the child is born.

    I’m pro-choice, but I don’t think abortion should be anyones decision but the person who is carrying the child, no matter the age.

  • eugh. that’s so sad. i mean, she should really get abortion for the sake of both her and the unborn child. but it’s so sad that had to even happen in the first place.

  • What a horrible, horrible situation! My heart breaks for this little girl. I’m also deeply saddened for this baby. By 4 months, it is most definitely a baby. They are starting to hear and make faces at this point. (http://www.birthingnaturally.net/pregnant/mbm/four.html) It’s not this tiny life’s fault it was created this way and two wrongs don’t make a right. Man, our world is so screwed up…

  • both an abortion/conceiving the child would be equally traumatic… that’s just awful.

  • …yes, if there’s a significant chance that giving birth could KILL or DESTROY HER BODY, which at 11… there usually is.

    Otherwise… ugh. I don’t even know what could be considered “right” in that situation. Lots and lots of therapy, and castration for that stepfather. Followed by decapitation. And being drop-kicked into a lake of fire. etc, etc, etc.

  • I don’t believe in abortion, ESPECIALLY if she doesn’t want one! That’s terrible, I hope they have that scum bag locked up!

  • @crystal_air - dittoo.

  • @TheSmokeMonster - ”I got pregnant when I was 10.. I lost the baby due to my body simply being too small and weak to be able to support the pregnancy.

    God works in mysterious ways. Maybe He performed the abortion?”

    you’re a jerk.

  • I know it’s horrible that this happened to her and it wasn’t her fault, but that’s still a human being.  I don’t necissarily think she should keep it because that puts a lot of clouds over her and her child’s futures but that is still a human being well on the way.  The baby deserves a chance to live no matter the circumstances behind its being conceived.  That is unless having a child at her age is going to put her life at risk.  That is a very probable factor, and because of this case, that might end up having to happen.  She’s simply too young to give birth.  This sort of thing isn’t supposed to happen at all.

  • lol mexicans 

  • I think that should be a determination left up to her, her parents and her doctor. People are this young, however, are not finished growing. I know of a 12-year-old (she isn’t that young anymore, but at the time she was) who got pregnant and had the baby and gave it up for adoption. She ruined her rib cage from it somehow, though. Her bones were still growing and now her rib cage is wider to this day and it looks a little bit odd. Without a tight shirt you can’t tell too much, though. I had never before heard of such a thing until her! But, apparently, it was caused by the growth of the baby which her body was not developed enough yet to accommodate.

    Still, whether or not to have an abortion should be a decision that she makes with her family and her doctor. I don’t presume to have a right to say what she should do. But, I honestly hope that that girl’s mother got rid of that stepfather! I also hope that he’s in jail.

  • I would have said that she should go for abortion, however, she wanted to have a baby. After reading the article, she seems confident that she wants the baby. Therefore, she shouldn’t have an abortion. If she wants to keep the baby, she would keep her word.

  • what a poor girl .
    I think she should accept to have an abortion as she cannot raise the child at all . And She cannot make wise dicision at this age .

  • @andfeud - you little bitch >:(

    @MagisterTom - i was going to comment. But if abortion is murder to you then fine. Killing what could be before it get’s out of hand might actually be good in some circumstances though. 

  • @imasilentheart - her stepfather was the asshole who impregnated her, and her mom didn’t even notice. she doesn’t really have her parents’ support. poor girl… :(

  • I think that man should be castrated.

  • @frozencherries - i wouldn’t force her to go through an abortion now four months later. but i’m just saying that it’s not so black and white when it’s a child. it’s too much for her to make those decisions. 

  • if she says she wants it…she should have it. However, I think a c-section might be in order.

  • I think her stepfather should have an abortion. 

  • @ignigenae - Well  a child always has a bio father. I am not sure if the bio father is around and even if he cares, but if he does then I hope that he is there for her at least. But if not then that makes this whole situation ten times worse for her. :( I knew it was her step-father. I was not talking about him. He should be taught a real good lesson.

  • @jwfarns - Hmm calling names, you little ass. All you had to do was correct me nicely. Obviously her father is out of the picture or he passed way from something. Either way, I didn’t know that her father wasn’t around. But everyone has a father whether or not, they act as one.

  • I admit that I couldn’t bring myself to read the whole article. But from the portions that I did, I think that the girl could benefit from talking to a therapist. 

  • This is sick.. I feel so sorry for the girl. I believe that it is her choice.

  • She should not care what woman’s group says. Instead, she should give birth to the baby and give it away…

  • I don’t think she or the baby will make it through delivery.

  • First. MOTHER FUCKING DAMN SON OF A BITCH WHO TOUCHED HIS OWN STEP DAUGHTER! I hope he is raped again and again in prison bey those who will have no mercy.

    Second. I’m so proud of this little girls ability to only stay positive about the situation. She cherish’s life, simple and true. She has the support to help her raise her son and she’s right… it’ll be like having a little brother, just a few differences. She may be judged harshly for her decision, but it’s a decision she has made with her whole heart. I have a lot of respect for that.

    She is VERY young and small so I’m certain it will be a difficult birth and will most likely need a C-section… I really hope she doesn’t try to give birth naturally, as that would make things more tramatic than they have already been.

    I hope her and her mother the best… pray they get all the right help that they need.  

  • o gosh… thats like me giving birth to my little sister. Id have an 11 year old??? wow… see what do Pro-Life wise asses say about this now? Its her decision but her tiny body will probably have to have a  c-section. Her Step-dad should go to jail. She is not ready to have a kid so either her mother raises it or put it up for adoption. I know I wanted a little sister when I was 10 and I was eating my words when I finally got one. She got all of the attention and I was made to take care of her. I had to grow into it but now she is great. Oh well… its up to her technically but really shes not prepared besides maybe having her baby toys still in her toybox.

  • It is her body so she should not be pressured to have an abortion if she doesn’t want to.

  • it sounds to me, from the article and the fact that it’s from fox news, like people are trying to make it look like she’s being pressured to have an abortion, when really they’re just trying to let her know that that’s an option

  • she should have the baby..i want to see what happens

  • My heart breaks when I hear things like this…I am more concerned for her little body and the fact she will have to have a c-section to have this baby.  This baby may be born premature even because of her size.  I don’t feel anyone should be telling her what to do or trying to force her to do anything.  We need to provide her with the infroamtion needed to make a decision and make sure she is receiving the support she will need. 

  • I don’t think anyone should have an abortion, whatever their age.  What a sad situation.

  • After reading the article, it’s clear she doesn’t want an abortion. Whether or not I think she should have one is irrelevant. It is her choice and she chooses to have the baby.

  • if she wants to have it, she should have it. that’s so sick of her step-father to do that to her. so she is left with a tough decision, but if she wants to have the baby and even raise it, then that’s her choice. if she wanted an abortion, she would have said so. she can also give the baby up for adoption… it’s her choice, guys!

  • Ugh why didn’t someone give her the abortion option when she was freshly pregnant? Why do people wait until it’s more dangerous? I think a medical abortion would have made sense and would have been worlds less traumatic than a D&C type procedure, however you need to do a medical abortion within I think 12 weeks. Mine was at 6 weeks. It was just like a period.

    I mean obviously an 11 year old cannot make a good mother – not with the bull crap she’s already been through (parents divorce, stepfather who raped her, etc) so she will not be the one raising the child/paying for it. Perhaps adoption would be best in this situation. I don’t know. This is just awful all around. Poor kid. An 11 year old doesn’t know what the outcome would be in any situation to make this decision. I feel she needs intense therapy, but someone should tell her the outcome of all the available options she has – someone who is not family, and not someone with an agenda. Just a regular old person to tell her how awful it would be to keep a baby when she is 11. The reminder of rape, the kid crying while she is trying to finish up middle school for heaven’s sake, how expensive it will be for her family to raise the kids, etc… she should ultimately make the decision but she needs to know the truth about things.

  • And I feel like I need to respond more after reading the article – Quintana Roo is a beautiful state in Mexico – we went to Cancun two years ago. But we also went into the areas where the Mexican people actually live. There were quite literally shacks in the jungle – no doors, hammocks hanging inside the houses (you could see right into the houses), but there were also kids going to school in uniforms. There are no teachers – the tour guide explained they sort of conference call in teachers and the kids sit in a school house watching the teacher on this tv. I feel bad saying this but if she has the baby, her life really won’t be ruined like it would be if she lived here in America. There isn’t the pressure to go to college here or have a high paying job. I don’t know how they do it but people outside of America live off a lot less income and a lot less technology than we have here, and they are just fine. If she wants to have the baby, she should. It seems like her mom is supportive of her. If she weren’t 11 and having a baby, she would probably be having one at 15 anyway…

  • No. I don’t believe she should have an abortion. I believe that the soul enters the body at the moment of conception-  the very beginning of the baby’s growth. So from that perspective, aborting is murder. If people are concerned because of medical reasons, technology is great and doctors should to their best to save both the mother and the baby. If the mother dies giving birth or the baby dies at birth,  the person dies a natural death and no murder was commited.

    If after giving birth or during the pregnancy the girl decides raising a child from her step father is too traumatic, difficult with school, etc, there is always the option of adoption. There are many people who cannot give birth to a baby and are looking to adopt. Perhaps another family member or a family friend is willing to adopt her baby? That way she could grow up, be a kid, but still have a relationship with her little one.

    I agree with an above comment that she probably needs to get mental health care. This is an aweful situation to be in.

    I guess I feel so strongly about this because when I was 12 I was raped and actually got pregnant. I ended up miscarrying the child but even to this day (I’m now 21) I feel connected to my child. I asked God to help me deal with the loss and he did- I met a girl last year who was blond haired, blue eyed (like me) and was 7 (the same age my little girl would have been). But the most amazing thing at all was that her name was Bella Grace- the same name that I named my little girl. I named her Bella Grace because I felt like she was up in Heaven praying for me and protecting me. (I had a lot of trouble with the guy who raped me and it was horrible aweful) Anyway, this little girl ran up and hugged me. Her hug was so warm and comforting. I know it may sound silly but I knew in my heart God was telling me, “she still exists. she’s here with me in Heaven and she loves you!” The hug was the first time I really cried over the miscarriage.

    I think my experiance really causes me to believe that unborn babies have souls.

     It saddens me so much that she’s actually being PUSHED into having an abortion; not only because of moral reasons but also because SHE DOESN’T WANT TOO!!!

    I’d like to follow this story and know the outcome.

    Thanks for posting this.

  • okay- I just read the artical. The mother wants to take care of the baby. That’s awesome!

  • the only way i think it should be forced upon her for an abortion is for medical reasons. that girl’s pelvic bone is tiny. if she doesn’t have trouble later on in her pregnancy, it will be a miracle. 

  • You certainly find shocking anecdotes to relate here.  I’m glad the girl wants to keep the baby, but I believe the stepfather is a most reprehensible jerk.  A time was, in days of yore, that this man would have been taken out and hanged by the neck till dead!

  • no easy answers here.

  • current standard law says 18 and up is the legal limit this man is sick by society’s standards

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  • @rhiannonator - and as usual, a bunch of idiots calling the shots.

  • Can’t wait til that girl whose pic is on here sees this…

  • I think this 11 year old is going to have bigger problems than a baby.  She doesn’t need an abortion, it’s her choice and her body (unless it’s to dangerous) but she needs to be taken away from her stepfather.

  • No, and her desires to be a parent so young are almost certainly motivated by the abuse she has received from her own parents. Very sad.

  • yea of course she should have an abortion, 1st shes only 11, she has a whole life ahead of her, and 2nd for Gods sake its the baby of her stepfather, whats she gonna tell the kid when he/she gets older that ” oh and by the way, your father is my father as well.”

    and to those people who said its her choice, its actually not. shes only 11, she doesnt know the troubles that lay ahead, shes deff not gonna get an education right now, and who knows she might be presserized into not getting an abortion by her stepfather or anyone else in the family….idk. i believe she should though.

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  • I keep reading comments saying the girl is going to be traumatized by an abortion.
    The CHILD is eleven years old.  She may not even be fully aware of the situation she is in, let alone know what the consequences of pregnancy is.  … and yes pregnancy is consequence for ANY child.
    You say that it’s traumatizing for a child to have an abortion?  Imagine how the stages of pregnancy is going to be for an eleven year old girl.  She’s going to wake up one day with a huge ass lump on her belly along with something moving inside.
    As traumatizing as an abortion can be, it’s nothing compared to what’s waiting for her if she doesn’t get one.

  • sure.  at the same time, maybe they can cut the stepfather’s balls off?

  • no. although a pregnancy will be hard for her young body, a child should not be killed to “escape” a problem. my heart goes out to this girl. i hope everything goes well with her family. she’s going through a lot right now and i admire her courage for being so sure at such a young age that she’s going to keep the baby. these abortion activists should not be making her into a “poster child” for abortion when she doesn’t even want one. she has probably been through enough emotional trauma and doesn’t need an abortion to make it even worse. i will definitely be praying for her.

  • Wow. this is horrifying. :(  

    She’s so young! she could lose her baby very easily..but the choice is hers.Her stepfather is one messed up guy.

  • I hate to say this, but yes she should get an abortion, I don’t think its healthy for a child to give birth.

  • This is a private matter… why are women right activists getting involved? I thought that’s the whole point of being pro-choice.

  • No one else has to live with the decision except her. Let her make the choice. She may be 11, but she may also live the rest of her life regretting what could have been.

  • I know the little girl in the picture is just an illustration, but it looks to be Michael Jackson’s daughter.

    Kathi

  • Man, this is a sad situation.  What is wrong with the stepfather?  Even though the decision of going through with the pregnancy should be the pregnant mother’s choice, there really is no good answer to this situation.  What kind of life will she be able to provide the baby?  Is she twisted to think that it’s a good thing to have the baby with her stepfather?  Can an 11-year-old really make a good decision based on what she knows?  I know when I was 11, I was definitely not ready for a baby!  What does the girl’s mother think?  In my opinion, based on the girl’s age, her mother should have some say in the choice of abortion.  And it would probably be in the best interest of the girl, she might still have a chance at her childhood.

  • Sounds like there are a lot of people with a lot of strong interests involved in this case, both pro and against abortion. The quotes from the little girl do seem ton indicate she is intent on having the baby. She might not be capable of fully comprehending what having a baby might mean…but I’m glad they will do what they can to deal with the situation. Which is a very sad situation. All these groups, unless they will provide some assistance in whatever this girl and her mother decide, should leave them alone.

  • @ShimmerBodyCream - exactly. thank you. about saying why traumatize her more.

  • This is sad however it is her body and should be her choice. All one can do is give the pros/cons of the matter. Man…11 years old *smh*

  • ARE YOU FCUKING SERIOUS!!! this girl is retarded. she’s only 11. she’s going to have her step father’s baby and let the grandmother take care of it. so what the hell is the point in having a baby if she isn’t even going to raise it herself. she’s too young. an abortion is the solution. its ridiculous how most bloggers on here is applauding her actions because she’s “choosing her own path” or how ever you guys are putting it. really guys? really? think about it. would you allow your own 11 year old daughter to go through such a thing?

  • I honestly don’t think it’s in any of your places to tell the child what to do. It’s her life and we should let her choose what she’d like to do. I understand her stepfather got her pregnant, but it’s her child, still, and it’s her life. Maybe consider adoption would be better. Still, its nobody’s place to tell her how to run her life.

  • What a fuck up world.

  • I personally think it is in nobody’s place to tell her how to run her life. I understand her stepfather got her pregnant, but it’s still her life. Maybe giving her options would be better, such as visitation adoption. Or just plain adoption.. it’s her child, and her life. 

  • if this girl wants to have the baby and she CAN do so without harming her own life, then YES, she should keep her child. but if the risk to her is going to force a choose which lives situation, then take the infant because the infant’s destiny is already known. there is no easy answer or solution when a child is raped like this. and yes, she was raped!

  • While it’s obviously extremely traumatic and messed up that the little girl was raped by her step father, it seems like her mother has done everything “right” since the pregnancy was discovered. She went to the police and the man was arrested (as opposed to not believing her daughter and siding with her husband, for example). Culturally, abortion is really taboo in Mexico, and her mother is planning to be the legal guardian of the baby. I don’t think anyone should be forced to have an abortion and it sounds like she’s getting the support she needs…hopefully once the media turns it’s eye away from her she won’t be abandoned, but it sounds like she has a family behind her.

  • Abortion could, but so could adoption..@allycatxx - 

  • It pisses me off that the article writes ‘rape’. The she was “allegedly raped”. What 11 year old girl WANTS to have sex with a 30-40 year old man?

  • I don’t know, the thought of an abortion and the thought of her having a baby is frightening — and by her stepfather. Oh, what has this world come to?

  • @suggestivetongue - Having an abortion can create severe adverse medical problems for women, esp in Mexico where the technology and sanitation isn’t all that .. well, adavanced. On top of that, she is only 11, having an abortion can severely damage her uterus for life.

    OT: There are risks whichever direction she goes. Something like this should not have happened to her (or any woman for that matter), however, the decision is hers and hers alone. It’s really no one else’s business.

  • @imasilentheart - “Do you know for sure she doesn’t have a bio father that she gets support from? If not then just take the stupid S off and you get a singular word. “ ”Pollyanna” is a far cry from calling someone “stupid” or “ass” and you have just as much responsibility to do your homework before you start on someone else.  You harp a lot about the “biological father”, and not just to me.  The biological father is not there, not in the story, not part of the story.  He’s not in the picture.  Take of the rose-colored glasses.  He’s not going to ride in on a white horse and rescue her from all of this.  It would be nice if someone would, but it’s not happening.

  • @Abrianna1422 - because we all know that an eleven-year-old is capable of being an independent member of society — an adult — and should make those decisions on their own with no input from anyone else……..

  • This is a really scary situation. If she wants to keep the baby, however, that is her choice…abortion can have many serious health consquences. However, to be 11yrs old and go through a pregnancy? I don’t know. This is tough. It should be between her and her doctor

  • well she shouldn’t even be pregnant in the first place.

  • i think there should be no abortion at all.
    abortion kills the innocent souls.
    and under no circumstances should people have to kill another soul to save their own…
    it’s disappointing to see what this world is coming to.

  • Wow! An 11 year old gets pregnant…was she raped by her step dad? But if she wants to keep her baby then its her choice.

  • @wishtoremainunknown - she is too emotionally irresponsible to understand the consquences of sex. And if a child wants to have sex with a man triple her age then there are some very serious psychological problems underneath the surface. Not just that, but that man needs to be put into jail, any man who is willing to have sex with a CHILD needs to be put somewhere far away from society. This girl is going to have serious self-worth and relationship problems in the future, guaranteed.

  • @jwfarns - First you started this with me. I didn’t ask for you to respond to my original comment. If you didn’t want this conversation(if you even want to call it that) then you shouldn’t have started it.

    Secondly, I wasn’t harping to you. My first comment wasn’t to anyone but to answer the blogs question. If you didn’t want me to “harp” as you say then you shouldn’t have responded to my comment. All my comments other than my original(except for the small bit on top) were responses.

    Thirdly, I apologize that I didn’t read it, but you could have started this a bit nicer. There was no need to be so sharp(there still isn’t, but now that I did read it, I see my mistake).  And I never did call you stupid if that is what you are insinuating.

    Fourthly, DUH I know no father is gonna come to ride her off and rescue her. That was never what I said. I only said that I hoped that he would be there for support. There is a big difference. And since now I realize there is no father. I only hope she can find the support she needs throughout her healing process and in her decisions when it comes to her unborn child.

    I am not being a polly-anna nor am I wearing rose-colored glasses. You may think I am. But I know better than to believe everything in this fucked up world is perfect or that things can always work out to the good, but I do know there is hope for good to come out of it if the person is willing to let it come. But whatever, I am done with you. Respond if you want but the next time, I will ignore you.

  • Doesn’t anyone realize that she might die in labor? The child will have a terrible life if it lives. She’s still a child. She should not be giving birth. It would be traumatizing to have the baby. I’m for the abortion all the way. I would give her a choice – if she was old enough to fully understand the consequences.

  • This has got to be the most difficult question someone could ask me. Because on one hand, we have to consider the psychological damages. How will this abortion effect her? How will this map out her teen and adult life? Will she be damaged in some way? Meaning, will she become promiscuous or self-harming or something else unhealthy? Or if she keeps the baby, there’s still damage to be done. A body going through all kinds of hormonal changes, her life being changed abruptly…

    I really can’t say. The women pressuring her are just awful for trying to make her do that. Even though it’s an acceptable choice to most. But I’m also not comfortable with her (just me personally) carrying a baby to full term at such a young age. This is an awful mess. She is already damaged from her step-father touching her. Though she is young, I would have to say the choice would have to be hers. Not adults around her who aren’t even family and who aren’t even in charge of her body in the first place. It’s awful they’re pressing their opinionated agenda on her like that.

  • In this case? No, she wants to have the baby it’d be barbaric to force abortion on her. She’ll just need lots of support to help her with being a mother at such a young age.

  • So young..she may experience a lot more complications or even death while trying to give birth…

  • Whatever she chooses to do.

    Sorry but the stepfather needs his balls chopped off.

  • @lildmonkid - you’re making the assumption that a child can’t make their own decisions. Children make informed decisions on their health and treatment options all the time, so long as they are deemed capable of understanding the consequences of their choice. 11 years old is certainly young, but it’s not unreasonable to give her that power to choose to not terminate the pregnancy. Obviously giving birth that young is far from ideal but have you considered how traumatic forcing an abortion on her would be?

  • She shouldn’t be in this situation at all. How were these things handled in the past? Send her “to visit relatives for a year” and put the baby up for adoption? She certainly shouldn’t keep and raise the baby.

  • @imasilentheart - My first comment was not “sharp”, nor was it an attack on you.  I said “meh” to her parents being supportive.  You are the one who started the denigration by bringing in the word “stupid” and continued it by calling me a ”little ass”.  I know who the ass is, and it isn’t me.  If you can’t handle people disagreeing with you, you shouldn’t post things to a public site that is designed to generate dissension and debate.

  • @amyleroux - A girl that young would be given a c-section because of the size of her pelvis

  • She’s 11, what does she know about anything to make a well-informed choice?

    Abortion all the way.

  • @Jade_Orchid - lol @ the second line. definitely – .-

  • I strongly doubt the way this story is being portrayed. The source you use is fox news and its saying that women’s groups are encouraging her to have an abortion when she doesn’t want to. Until I read it from a legitimate news source like CNN (some news organization without an axe to grind), any number of newspapers I’m pretty sure this is skewed and speculation.

    I’m of Mexican descent and super glad I live in the US because if I got raped by a member of my family at any age, I’d be able to get an abortion if I wanted that. Mexico *barely* has any abortion rights thanks to the power of the Catholic church.

    TBH International women’s and feminist groups are and probably would advocate #1 for this girl to be put into a safe situation (hopefully she’s not around her stepfather anymore) #2 push for the girl to be able to keep the baby if she wants, put it up for adoption if she wants, or have an abortion if she wants.

    Anyway this just reminds me that incest and child sexual abuse are far more prevalent than mostly anyone cares to admit.

  • It’s her decision, not theirs.

    But wtf…that’s messed up.

  • that’s just…disgusting.

    and yes, she deserves to choose an abortion. and a restraining order while she’s at it.

  • @AubreyBird - I agree with your statement. Don’t womens groups scream about a woman’s right to choose?

    I hope her stepfather is in jail.Or got his parts cut off. Sick freak.

  • @justagirlwhoknowshowtofeel - That’s what I was thinking. Poor kid.

    Whatever happens, her stepfather needs to be put in prison!

  • I think it’s her dicision weather to go through with the pregnancy or not, but her stepfather should suffer severe consequences.

  • What I think about what someone else does with their body doesn’t matter, and sadly I don’t even feel strongly either way. I think at one time I was supposed to have a knee-jerk “OH MY GOD, 11 YEARS OLD AND HER OWN STEPFATHER!!!” reaction, but now it’s like… “oh, something crazy happened in the world, hope things turn out for the best, *next article*” I’m sure I’d feel differently if it was my sister or someone, but I don’t know that girl or how smart or level-headed she is, so I don’t know if I should be applauding her or grabbing the monitor and screaming about how I’m right and she’s wrong. Whatevs. Get that person’s personal business out of my news.

  • no and esp. not if she doesn’t want, this is horrible!!!

  • This is tough. I asked a manager at my job this one day she said that she would force her daughter to get an abortion because SHE wouldn’t want to have to deal with a child.

    I think, as a mother, i would seriously discuss with my child what she wanted to do and go over how either decision would impact her body in the long run.  I wouldn’t force her into anything that she wasn’t ready for.  After all, it seems as though she has been forced around enough. 

    As far as the father goes, It would be a sad day in hell for the damage that he would endure. 

  • just imagine when the child is old enough to drive.. she’ll be 27.. I’M 27!

  • This is a messed up situation from “GO”. How can anyone outside of the immediate family feel they have a voice in this child’s life. I’m sure Family Services has gotten involved and other than that, only the family or a judge should decide. Considering she is so far along, it would be more dangerous to have an abortion now. I do not know much about abortions but it seems her progression is too far for it to be safe at her age. Granted neither is having a baby, but childbirth is more natural than abortion so the mind and body could handle that better. From my perspective, I can really see no viable reason for an outside entity other than as stated before to be involved in this child’s life any way. Why do people feel they should interject themselves in someone’s private life without invitation? There are people who need food and shelter, help them instead of forcing your beliefs on someone else. If you feel the need to be a helpful citizen then help where you are wanted not where you want to force your beliefs.

  • I don’t think an 11 year old should have an abortion

  • @royal_diadem - If you read the article, you’d know that her mom is 100% behind her.  There was never any consideration from either of them for the girl to have the baby aborted.

    What you’re proposing is that she should be FORCED to have an abortion?  How could that be right?  A woman’s body should be under her own control, not the control of the government or “women’s groups.”

  • @AubreyBird - i don’t need to read the article to figure out that an eleven year old is not a woman but a child. i never said that this girl should be forced to have an abortion. in fact, i said it’s a little too late for that. but i want people to recognize that her child-bearing ability does not imply that she is a woman. adults have the right to choose, not preteens. children need boundaries, this one included. they are not ready to make decisions. it’s too much responsibility for her.

  • It’s her choice… right?  She is a minor… is it really her choice, or is it up to her parent/guardian?

    This is tragic.  She was raped.  She is 11 years old and pregnant.  She is going to have to go through the experience of birthing a child, or she is goign to have to go through the experience of having an abortion.

    I hope her step father rots in hell.

  • @royal_diadem - what boundaries?  Who’s setting these boundaries?  It’s not the right of women’s groups or the government to do that, and her mother agrees.  You’re arguing that she’s too young to recognize the consequences of having a baby at her age, but i think you may be a bit to removed from the situation to recognize how much more traumatic it may be to force her to kill her baby when she’s dead-set against it.

    Just b/c outsiders to the situation don’t agree with her decision doesn’t mean they should go in and change it for her.

  • If she wants to have the baby, let her have it.

  • It should be the girl’s choice. I thought that was the purpose of pro-choice in the first place.

  • @TheSmokeMonster - Yeah, cause a baby is pretty much the same thing as cancer.

  • @The_ATM - Absolutely: Thoughtless clumps of growing cells.

  • i dont think she should get in aborthino because that is just cruel!!!!!

  • HORRID Situation, but it is HER decision to keep it. If her parents are up for raisingtheir grandchild they should keep the baby. If they are not she and her parents should put it up for adoption. 

  • @TheSmokeMonster - Tell your girlfriend that when you get her pregnant.

    @AubreyBird - Seems like pro-choice just isn’t what it used to be.

  • I think she should do the right thing. But really age should not matter when it comes to the abortion decision. I think there are definitely more important things this girl should be concerned with. 

  • let her decide.

  • I’m just worried she thinks of the baby as her Barbie doll that she can play with anytime she likes. It’s not my style to judge young mothers, but what are the chances that she understands the full consequences of giving birth to her baby as an 11, or a 12-year-old?

    Abortion is a really difficult subject. I get people who support it, but I also get people who are adamantly against it. It’s really fucked up, having to even consider it.

  • I wish we didn’t know about this. I’m sure the girl’s identity is being kept secret, but this is not our business. Girl is traumatized enough without becoming news. This makes me sad.

  • I think the step father deserves execution like that of china.  You don’t hear those kind of stories in china cuz if found out, it is a gun to the head.

  • @The_ATM - I’m not really sure what you’re getting at since I’ve clearly stated that it should be the girl’s choice, not the choice of others.

  • @The_ATM - i’m sorry, i think I might have just completely misread that…

  • she should not have an abortion. its a life changing thing that makes you hurt for the rest of your life emotionally. it could really damage this girl especially since she wants to keep the baby and since shes young. 

  • @ShimmerBodyCream - I agree with you.

  • What is exactly wrong with being Pro-Choice? Every woman has right to her own body. No one is making her choice for her, It’s her OWN and it’s how it should be. Have you EVER seen Abortion Activists TELLING someone to get an abortion? NO. That’s why it’s called PRO-CHOICE. If she want’s to keep it, it’s her choice.

  • 11 or 20 years old, they need to let her have the baby if she wants to have the baby. It’s not ideal but she will have to live with the decision for the rest of her life, not them.

    Yes, I am pro-life, but we can stop the whole debate over the abortion issue because she’s made it ultra clear what she wants and that is to have the baby. They need to leave her alone. The poor child has clearly been through enough already.

  • Wow… It’s her baby anyways, give her a little more freedom, sheesh.

  • @The_ATM - Tell your girlfriend that when you get her pregnant.

    What about this, explain to me how a zygote is alive in any meaningful sense– more than a cancer cell, cheek cell, or a wiggling sperm.

  • @muriko_jai - I think the step father deserves execution like that of china.  You don’t hear those kind of stories in china cuz if found out, it is a gun to the head.

    You must be Chinese cuz you type like that of china.

  • It’s her choice, but let’s take a reality check. She’s 11 years old. She was impregnated by her step-father. She still has to grow up!

  • @ShimmerBodyCream - Agreed!

  • Poor girl.  What a mess.  

    Considering all that she has been through, forcing her to abort is incredibly wrong.  

  • I believe she should most likely have an abortion. I say most likely because I am pro-choice but don’t know all the details to this case.

  • *EDIT* She should not be forced to have an abortion, though. She should make the choice to abort or give birth herself.

  • @YellowBird10 - since you obviously didn’t read the article, or the post, or any of the comments i will remove my palm from my face long enough to type this response to you, which in all likelyhood wont make any sense to you. the answer to the question that you posed, and subsequently answered incorrectly is “yes”. in fact, that’s what all the bruhaha is about. the child and her mother WANT TO KEEP the child and pro-abortionists(those things you call pro choice) are trying to force the girl to have an abortion. in short, please open your eyes and ears long enough to know what is going on before you open your mouth.. or in this case whip out your keyboard.

  • mayb

  • i cant imagine how such a young body could even handle a pregnancy. i would say yes to the abortion. like, its so so tragic because thats her whole life, and she’ll be 20 with a 9 year old, and wonder how her life ever became this and it will be so heartbreaking. i didnt even get my period til 14. i just dont even really remember my perspective on life at 11 and surely it has changed and what i wanted at 11 is not what i would want now. its just sad that this has happened and not only that the emotional scarring from her stepfather? there are so many sick people in this world

  • @TheSmokeMonster - If a farmer has sown in a field and you destroy the field and the potential for a crop, you are liable for the damages you caused in court.  It will be alive. It has potential.  Obviously there are varying stages of pregnancy and the development of a fetus.  Do you really imagine that anyone completing an abortion is not destroying something that in due course will most likely be alive and full of thought?  I am pretty much a complete social liberal except when it comes to abortion because abortion crosses the line.  In the case of rape or incest, I am ok with people attempting to escape the consequences of a choice, but it isn’t like abortion does not have consequences either.  Victims are already in a lose-lose situation.

    “What about this, explain to me how a zygote is alive in any meaningful sense”

    Obviously a rigged question.  Technically it is alive, but not in the same sense humans are–we both know that.  But if I answer anything but ‘gee, I give up’ you will respond with something essentially equivalent to “but that is not in meaningful sense”.  The question is phrased so you can define it’s meaning later.

    If you deny there is a difference between a zygote and cancer in the sense of being alive, then you would also say that a seed from a tree and a piece of bark from that tree are just as non-living.  That is, you wouldn’t value the seed for it’s ability to come alive any more than you would value the bark.  You can come up with a better argument then pretending something that will become a human being is no different than cancerous cells.  If a car was speeding at you, would you say it poses no threat because it is 60ft away?  No.  The rate of change matters. The direction it is heading matters.  Same with a zygote.

    The fact that you scramble so much to try to define when a zygote is alive emphasizes how you would like to bend ‘the rules’.  Really, I think it is a question of moral integrity, but I am sure I can only get insulted for pointing it out.  Oh well.

    @AubreyBird - No worries.  So it is clear, I was pointing out the irony that some of the pro-choice people are the ones wanting to influence her choice.  When you see that kind of thing, you know people are making arguments based on some agenda they have rather than an argument based on principles. People without principles are easy to “destroy” with principled argument.  Xanga needs more people sticking up for good causes.

  • @ShimmerBodyCream - lol at that rather scary and accurate image. I agree – it is her choice, and she made the right one.

  • I can’t imagine raising an 11 year old at 22.

  • it depends on the health risks to both the girl and her baby.  i think an 11 yo is too young to be having a baby — physically and emotionally, especially under the circumstances she finds herself in.

    of course the situation of the man seems to be overlooked here.  he should be taken out and horse-whipped, fileted, and left staked out in the sun over an anthill.

  • I think she should, but obviously nobody can make that decision but her. poor kid is probably gonna die from childbirth.

  • @The_ATM - For. The. Win. In that argu -er -discussion –

    while i didn’t follow the link to the article (finding the comments here much more entertaining) – and though most would probably imagine me quite right handed – i tend to imagine that those citing the fact that it was a Fox source and that the mention was never made that anyone was ‘forcing’ a ‘choice’ to abort – ….may possibly be closer to the truth~

    and Dan’s blog, of course FTW…

    you did it again…

  • if she wants to have the baby and it’s not going to kill her, why pressure her into an abortion?

    this is not an ideal situation by any means, but i applaud her for choosing life at such a young age.

  • How about we decide on surgical or chemical castration for the p.o.s. step father first? My vote is for surgical. Chop ‘em!

  • @TheSmokeMonster - It’s a baby! Not a cancerous growth. She wants to keep it.

  • @imasilentheart - i know a couple people who got their periods when they were 9!

    even though i’m pro-choice, i hate to say that abortion is the best answer, especially in this case when people are trying to push it on her. but for an eleven year old, it’s going to be extremely difficult and painful to carry a baby to term and deliver. i don’t even know if it’s possible. my friend had a baby at 15 and it dislocated her hips b/c she was too small and now she’s 21 and still has problems with her hips b/c of it

  • It’s a sad situation either way. I child having a child is sad. And a child going through an abortion is sad.

  • probably, mostly for her own safety.  it is her choice, but as she is very much a minor, i think her parents should probably have a say too, just like any other medical procedure – she’s under the age of consent.

  • @MyxlDove - i got my period when i had just turned 11 and that was 9 years ago.  i’m sure it’s even more commonplace now.

  • I would in that situation. I’m pro-choice and it would be simply unorthodox of me to say she should definitely have an abortion. Pro choice means exactly what it says, I’m for choice. She should make her own decision, even if it was not what I would do. Honestly…from a health standpoint, and from an emotional one, I think she should. It’s going to be hard enough for her to live her life with this happening, and if she has to have a child too… She should still make her own decision though.

  • Yes she should have it aborted.  She is too young and her body s not ready for child birth.  It is not worth risking her life.

  • It’s a CHILD, not a choice. She should have the baby.

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  • I hope he is in prison.

    No for 2 reasons. She said no. She is 4 months along. Too late IMO.

  • If I was her mother, I would try to talk her into having an abortion, but I wouldn’t force her into it if I was confident that she understood the risks and pains of continuing through a pregnancy at such a young age.

    I was smart enough to make such a decision at age 11 (I would have had the abortion). Not all 11-year-olds are. It should depend on the girl and the family. Though if her mother was sitting by letting her 11-year-old daughter get raped, she’s not qualified to make the decision either.

  • @PseudoEuphoric - “pro-accountability: Everyone will be held accountable for the choices they make.”

    Fantastic comment.  No one talks about abortion as a way to dodge consequences.

  • Shes okayy coz im 13 and ive had a baby its only a year old  dont worry hunny it will be fine x

  • LOOK I AM HAVING THE BABY OK MY CHOICE GOT THAT!!!

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