June 27, 2010
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Gay Pride Parade
I was reading an article about how it was Gay Pride Weekend in New York. Here is the link: Link
I also read a blog where someone mentioned she had marched in a Gay Pride Parade.
Would you ever march in a Gay Pride Parade?
Comments (183)
It’s also today in San Francisco
Absolutely. It was pride in the Twin Cities this weekend too.
It’s possible, but I doubt it. It’s not really my kind of event, though I am supportive of LGBT people.
I would have this year but I got sick.
I’m heterosexual. I don’t have enough flair to march in one.
Des Moines’ pride parade was a couple of weeks ago. I love going and watching the parades, but I doubt I’ll ever march in one.
I don’t know details regarding the parade. Does one have to be gay to march in it? Or can someone just support the gay community by marching in it? I have a few gay friends and sure, I’d march in it for them.
I would’ve marched today, but I overslept. D:
@MidwesternShenanigansIN - No, you don’t have to be gay. I remember last year there was a group of marchers called “Straight, but not narrow”. It consisted of straight allies of the gay community.
I would. It would be fun
No. I don’t get the point of celebrating something that you claim you were born as. Were they born looking like the freaks in those parades, too?
I marched in the one in Chicago two years ago as part of the Human Rights Campaign. I’m straight, but I want to fight for equal rights for everyone.
Yea I would, because if I was a lesbian, I would definitely be a proud lesbian. I think everyone should be proud of whatever or whoever they are, regardless of whether it was a choice or not.
No. I’m not gay, but I wouldn’t march in a straight pride parade either, if such a thing existed. I am who I am, and drama isn’t my thing.
Yes.
I have. It’s incredibly fun. We weren’t supposed to be in the parade, we just sort of jumped in and started dancing down the street.
@merfolklore - I am with you there.
@Megan@revelife - why ya gotta be so mean?
@Megan@revelife - Ever hear of the Puerto Rican Day Parade? I’m sure they were actually born Puerto Rican.
I am going to be marching in gay pride parade in Brighton this year as a gay friend of mine wants the company and apparently its great fun. Whilst im not gay, I can still campaign for and celebrate gay people’s rights.
It was in Michigan this week too…I didn’t even know we had a gay pride week.
I wouldn’t bother marching in one, but I’d totally go. ^_^
Ugh!!
If my friends wanted me to I would. We’d go together supporting our “gay” friend whomever that would be.
I might if my close, gay friend dragged me to one, but I do not think he is really into them. I do not like big crowds and loud noise though so..
Yes! That would be so much fun.
Nah, not my kind of thing…..I don’t like crowds and noise, and I wouldn’t march in a straight pride parade, either, if there were such a thing. I’m still waiting for the Swedish-American history month and parade.
July 4 in TO (but violent thugs not allowed!)
I’m straight but I’ve always wanted to join to show the people my support for them
I probably would with people or friends with me. I’m not gay but I support it.
Maybe, if I had gay friends doing it and they invited me.
I’ve gone to a gay rights protest. Some man was standing outside of a church downtown with his wife and children yelling “God doesn’t love faggots.” His kids were holding up signs saying that slogan.
So, I felt pretty good joining against him. Those poor children.
I would, but I don’t like the random acts of violence, so unless it depended on the freedom of homosexuals (like if the government somehow said that if ######### of people were to march, then they’d grant freedom or something outrageous like that) I wouldn’t do it. :l Sorry.
@Paul_Partisan - I’m with you buddy.
of course
I would if I was into large noisy crowds.
The PRIDE event is in Mpls too. I wanted to go to festival and watch the parade today but I didn’t make it. =(
i would! haven’t had the chance to yet. my mom wouldnt allow me to participate in any LGBT stuff when i was in HS and i completely did not realize the buffalo pride parade had already happened until it was over this year. ugh
also for anyone who feels like commenting with the really well thought out “I wouldn’t celebrate being straight so what’s the point” sillyness please refer to my blog here http://scarletmoth.xanga.com/728829360/why-flaunt-being-gay–well/ …augh i wish i could/had time to respond to some of the comments on here…
I went to that parade today with a friend who isn’t straight. It was great fun, aside from the massive heat. The paraders especially seemed to be having the best time. Even though I myself am straight, I’d march in one to support the pride.
I retired from marching in parades when I retired from being a Girl Scout Leader.
I would not march in one no. If they want to have a parade and PARADE around then fine,just don’t force it on me. Why would I want to celebrate people of the same sex having sex with each other. Thats really all it is. They want everyone to except and approve of them so they will have a good conscience about it I guess. I don’t understand why they need to parade it. Are they really trying to convince everyone else it’s ok, or convince themselves there is nothing wrong with it. I’m not the judge,so as long as they don’t force me to join them,they can do what they want,thats the way of the world!
Probably not. I’ve never even been to the one we have here in NYC, although I’ve been invited.
i’d definitely PARADE my rainbow ass all around town. i just hope those straight people don’t force me to join them in their PARADES. because being straight is all about having sex with members of the opposite sex. that’s really all it is.
@musicmom60 - Ask and ye shall receive. (link) The awesome thing about this country is you can get a parade for just about anything. lol!
I would totally eat the food at that one. I want to try Scandinavian food.
@squeakysoul - You should come to our house for Christmas – we do all the Swedish smorgasbord stuff, it’s great. I make a mean Swedish meatball!
No. There is nothing to be proud of there.
Yes, even though I’m straight. =)
it’s one of my life goals.
@mercurialmusic - HAHA, that’s great.
No, but I wouldn’t picket it either.
no
I would.
Why not? Sounds like fun.
HELL YEAH I WOULD.
I’m not sure if I would march in one, I’d be afraid that it would offend them because I’m not gay. There might be a gays-only rule, I’m not sure. But I totally support gay/lesbian rights and I would love to go to one and show my support. I’d probably have to bring a shotgun to fend off the Westboro Baptist Church though. lol -_-
I haven’t, but I would march in one with a group of friends if I had the opportunity. It’s for a good cause and would probably be a lot of fun.
I’m going to one this weekend.
Yep.
I definitely would. My mom is gay and i’d walk in support without a doubt.
@Megan@revelife - What do you mean you don’t get celebrating something you were born as?? Do you not get the Puerto Rican pride parade? Or the 4th of July? Or the St. Patrick’s Day parade? I’m pretty sure people were born Puerto Rican, American, and Irish. No one seems to find anything odd or incomprehensible about people celebrating being Puerto Rican, or American, or Irish. Why wouldn’t you “get” celebrating being gay?
In a month or so it will be Gay Pride Day in Toronto. Here it is so major and well established that practically the whole hetero community turns out to watch it.
To answer the question at hand, it’s definitely something I’d do if a group of friends got together and wanted to. I’ve watched it before, and it looks like a BLAST!! But I feel like it’s more meaningful and fun if you’re not by yourself.
I’d rather watch a parade. Being in a parade looks boring.
@Lost_In_Reverie -
I think those are weird, too. If, as gay people claim, they are born gay, they are celebrating what is an accident of birth, same as race, nationality, or gender. I find it interesting that many who are all for “gay pride parades” would have a big problem with say “white pride” parades.
NEVER! i may, however, prance or twirl…
sure, but I’d feel out of place because as strongly as I support LGBT rights, I’m not half as passionate about it as people who are actually lesbian, gay, bi and/or transsexual.
@Megan@revelife - that might be because LGBT people don’t have the same rights as people who aren’t lesbian, gay, bi or transsexual. I’m not sure about parades, but there were definitely movements, protests, etc. from people of color, for example, when they were being denied equal rights.
Nope. a) I hate parades, b) I hate crowds, and c) that particular parade is shameful.
nope, watching it is much more fun.
it’s pride weekend in chicago too
@Paul_Partisan - kinda what i was sayin’
that and –let’s be real, we all perty much like the sound of our own voice here…
@Megan@revelife - i CAN see why some folks would take that as ‘you bein’ mean’ — – my intial comment was kind flip too – and might piss off people who are adamant supporters – i really don’t mean to dis folks for having a different perspective – and i’m thinkin’ you probably haven’t a ‘hatred” or the intention to be mean..
i must admit i did get a bit of a kick out of the likes of ‘white pride parades’ / ‘born that way’ comments..
Yes I have !
Don’t like being in my small town parade. Would definitely not do any other parade. Straight or gay.
I went today in support of my friend and I had fun.. it was very tense at times because of the amount of people there and the limited space but all in all, I had alot of fun.
@Megan@revelife - Well, wouldn’t the St. Patrick’s Day parade, technically, be a white pride parade? (I mean, really, have you SEEN an Irish person lately? Even in July, they’re the whitest folks around! Haha). I believe there is an Italian heritage parade as well. And Fourth of July can be seen as an ANYTHING-pride parade – white, black, asian, hispanic, whatever, because at the end of the day, they’re celebrating being AMERICAN.
As for not celebrating something because it’s an accident, well, Happy Columbus Day!
But seriously, just because you didn’t get to choose whether or not you’re gay, or Irish, or whatever doesn’t mean that you can’t be proud of it. You can be proud to be a part of your culture because it’s something that is important to you, and something that means something to you. Just because you didn’t choose it doesn’t mean it doesn’t count. Aren’t you proud of your family members when they do something admirable? You didn’t choose them, but you can still be proud of them.
i would. i was here today actually lol.
Yes I would march in a Gay Pride Parade.
@Lost_In_Reverie -
Again, I don’t really participate in those things and I see them as silly, too. As for your example, it illustrates my point. I am proud of their achievements and the kind of pole they are. My parents aren’t proud of me because I am a girl or a heterosexual.
My straight guy friend went to a gay pride parade in philly and he said it was the best time he’s ever had. I would totally go.
As I advocate of Gay rights and as a open Lesbian, yes I would march in a parade.
@Megan@revelife - You don’t participate in 4th of July? COMMIE!!! Haha.
And who says that the parades don’t celebrate accomplishments? If you ask me, while the gay community still has a lot of ground to gain, you can’t deny that they have accomplished a lot. They’ve raised awareness and started gaining equal rights, and with all the rights they’re still fighting for, a parade celebrating who they are and how far they’ve already come doesn’t seem silly at all.
I should add that a lot of people who march in the parade are still trying to raise awareness and fight for equality, which seems like a pretty noble cause to be marching for.
why do Gays even need to march in a dang parade? Because there hated like muslims jews arabs and blacks in the World? I cant stand how much hate is down in the USA. i think marching because you are “Gay” is stupid……whats the point “WOW IM PROUD?” So frickin lame! People need lives
No I never have but only because I have never had the chance.
NO WAY! I am not gay and if I was it would be kept private.
Do you have to be gay, or could I get like a one day pass just for the parade.
@amateurprose - you most certainly don’t have to be gay. Alot of my straight friends have gone just for the fun of it and marched.
I’m not sure what I would do. I’m a lesbian, but I’m not extremely outward with it. I don’t prefer to be with a bunch of other gay people all at once, because I am not a huge fanatic about gay rights.
@imyformerself - lol, I was just trying to be funny. I assumed they dont check you for a “Gay Membership card” at the gates.
@amateurprose - Actually, I carry mine on me. I’m sure they might at some parades. :]]
@imyformerself - Can you make me a fake gay id, so I can get into the good clubs?
@amateurprose - Oh hell yes. Who doesn’t want a sexy transvestite to dance with?!
@imyformerself - I have one that I keep in a glass case at my house. Just in case I have a party and it starts to get boring,I break the glass and the trany saves the day
To answer your question, I have marched in several. The best units of the parades are the families – gay parents with their children as well as straight parents with their gay children – as they always get the largest cheers from the crowd. We could probably do with a few less go-go boys and a few more displays of how LGBT people cross all spectrums of society.
@amateurprose - Well, you do get a 15% discount if you have yours with you… LOL
@christao408 - Ahhhh…..I KNEW IT!!!!!
@Jeremy_Sheer - If you look at the history of the marches, which began as a response to a police raid on the Stonewall Inn in New York City in 1969, I think you might better appreciate the symbolism that the marches have. It is about being visible as part of a segment of society that is largely rendered invisible.
I really, really wish I had the chance!
I support equality for LGBT people, but I don’t know if I’m proactive enough to march in a parade for them.
HELL YES.
@christao408 - YES!
I’ve marched with friends in NYC& LA, along with some of their family members. It’s about pride, acceptance and sharing that pride visibly… for everyone to see. It’s a form of political activism that sends others a message: you believe in equal rights for the LGBT community and you are willing to fight for them. It’s sad that so many people think these marches are nothing more than a “freak show”. Attitudes such as these are why it’s so important to speak out in an effort to dismantle the destructive power of prejudice and intolerance,making the world a safer place for the LGBT community and the friends/families who support them .
@Megan@revelife -
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Just think about how happy the Christians were when the Romans stopped feeding them to the Lions.
That’s why we march. We are proud to be who are and we are celebrating centuries of Oppression by minds and attitudes like yours.
Maybe we should bring back the Lions to see who REALLY has The Faith..
Yes, have marched many times and spent many years celebrating. This year I decided to go clothes shopping at Macy’s and I would see the parade on the way home but I spent so long shopping I missed it.
I over did it last year and drank too much for that was enough for two years. Next year I may go party again…
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@Tallman -
Sit down and be quit, your opinion is NOT allowed.
NEVER….lots of nudity, etc. They actually warned us in the newspapers for the ones in Vancouver, BC of this and warned people not to take children. I just can’t imagine a hetrosexual parade where the participants are allowed to be nude in public places. I think it goes too far.
@summerdreams505Aa - isn’t there one everyday in SF?
@Orlando - Hahahaha! I think I like you:)
@amateurprose - Shhh! Don’t let anyone know I told you about it, though. LOL
I would. ^_^ PRIDE was yesterday in Chicago, too. My school even has a float in the parade. We have an LGBTQQIA student organization and they’re probably the most active on campus. I might feel like I wouldn’t belong in the parade, but if they asked me to, I would to show my support.
sure why not
i would. i was actually thinking of running the half-marathon eventually in conjunction with the gay pride parade.
I almost went to the pride parade in NYC yesterday. I’m in STaten Island now. and yes I definitely would. I marched in the pride parade in Birmingham, Alabama last summer! that was quite a trip…
I definitely would
I’ve marched in one with a friend. It was so much fun.
@the_other_cloud - that seems like a scary place to have a pride parade.
I would totally march in a gay pride parade. It sounds like so much fun, and you get to support great people!
Homosexuality is a Mental Illness, there should be awareness to this fact. Check out how many mass mureders where homosexual you’d be surprised.
Videos show the sex that is preformed in the parade in front of everyone. You people don’t find this kind of public sex SICK?
@musicmom60 - I’m still waiting for the Swedish-American history month and parade.
The Swedes, after all were enslaved by this country and its laws. For a long time, it was even illegal to be Swedish!
Swedish-Americans, they totally have so much to make up for.
Not in one, but I’d go to one. My mother in law is gay.
No, though in all fairness, I wouldn’t march in a straight pride parade either.
I might…I can’t say either way.
I absolutely would.
Yeah. I showed up late at one last year, so although I didn’t get to be in the parade, I was at the festival afterwards, and it was so much fun.
@Megan@revelife - “you could have just told us no now, you didn’t have to be rude” ~arctic monkeys
No.
@catman517 -
LIES. Homosexuality was declassified as a mental illness by the American Psychological Association in 1973. There are some people so hateful and so biased against homosexuality that no matter what kind of evidence they see about it, they will always believe what they want instead of seeing the truth.I wonder why homosexuality makes you so uncomfortable? Why does it threaten you to the point that you would lash out against an entire diverse group of your fellow human beings? And by the way, I’ve attended many gay pride marches. I’ve never seen any this imaginary “public sex”.
Yeah – I would! But, I need to check it for Los Angeles. ; ).
YES! I have marched in one this year. I went as Lady Gaga lol
I would and I did.
I’m not much of a parade person to begin with…
The whole concept of pride is ridiculous to me. What are we (as a gay man myself) celebrating? The fact that we’re different? Who cares, everyone is different. Are we celebrating our diverse community? Or of all the non-accomplishments we’ve made in the path to equality?
I am very secure in who I am, but prancing around with a rainbow flag sounds like absolute torture to me. I merely go to people watch and that’s IF i go.
Yeah:] that would be fun
Done it. I’m heterosexual, but an ally and supporter of the queer community. I did enjoy the day I spent at the gay pride parade, but I’m not especially flamboyant. I was a fly on the wall.
@jstarboy12 - Well, it IS absurd to be proud of something that is not an accomplishment, and being gay is certainly not an accomplishment, but I would say coming out of the closet in spite of a homophobic society IS an accomplishment. That’s what I feel Pride is all about. You should be proud, even if you don’t go to the parade. : ))
Pride is so much fun! Both the festival and the parade!
Uh, no. Only because alot of the guys marching in the parade are gorgeous specimens of male beauty, flaunting their good looks in provocative clothes…..and DAMMIT, I would never stand a chance with any of them, because I have a uterus.
I’d go. This entire month is gay pride month.
@Megan@revelife - They are born that way. But then again it isn’t called the Glad I was Born Gay Pride Parade. They are celebrating their uniqueness and bringing awareness to those that are ignorant…such as yourself.
I am straight and have gone to pride back home several time and went to the one we had in Vegas in 09. There’s nothing wrong with supporting gay/bi/whatever they like friends.
i would love to participate in a parade – BUT – not one where the flamboyancy overshadowed the real message of equality. it’s not a show where 250 lb. men wear g strings and THAT is what makes any serious kind of message get lost along the way.
I’d love to march in one!
@Trixy460 - She isn’t ignorant, do you know what that word means? She’s well informed, she knows people aren’t born gay and knows what a ridiculous concept that is.
@lizforReal - She is just another example of how those who call themselves “open-minded” are really only so when you agree with them.
Hell yeah I would. Went to Chicago’s Pride yesterday and had one hell of a time.
As for people saying there’s public sex going on, if there was, I didn’t see it…Besides, if you don’t wanna see it, just don’t look.
I would go even if I’m straight
I’m not going to march in one but I hope to go and witness the gay pride event in Manchester (UK) this year or next.
no b/c people would say i was a feggit
Just watching the parade is supporting gay pride and the straight alliance, guys! New Yor’ks parade is sooo fun! It’s an awesome scene and worth going to and seeing the diversity within the community which includes bisexual, lesbian, gay, and transgender people. (But I’m pretty sure you can’t march in it, if your not part of a registered group.)
I would. My cousin led the SF parade one year on her motorcycle. It’s how she came out to our family. XD
@jstarboy12 - You’re lucky that you grew up in a place and time, apparently, that didn’t judge you. You probably alrready know this, so the rest of this comment is for others reading: The day of our current gay pride parade coincides with the anniversary of the Stonewall riots, which broke out after a police raid on a gay bar in Greenwhich Village and the arrest of over a dozen men. I was a kid then – but I rememberr it, and I think we still have a long way to go with regard to discrimintion (of many kinds) in our country. Parades like these are a great way to show support for equal rights and treatment under the law!
Oy veh, I think that I would be out of place at the parade but I think some of the drag queens are very hott. And also some of the lesbians for some reason. I don’t want to have children with a lesbian but I’d lick their feet…or watch them lick each other’s feet….
@lizforReal - and how is it that she knows that people aren’t born gay? people are born straight. people are born with a predetermination of being left or right-handed, sometimes ambidexterious. Why is it so hard to understand that it isn’t a choice, never has been, never will be. Ignorance is the failure to accept knowledge when its readily available. Ignorance is hate wrapped in stupidity. Fortunately I no longer subscribe to an organization that teaches hate under the cover of love and acceptance.
@Megan@revelife - and i am certain you preach love and acceptance, yet tell those who don’t agree with you that they are going to hell…
pot, kettle…thanks.
@Trixy460 -
Nice assumptions, but I don’t actually “preach” those things and I don’t tell people they are going to hell. It is telling that your only response consisted of statements that are entirely products of your imagination.
@Trixy460 -
It has never been proven that gay people are born that way, please cite any scientific consensus that states as much. I will make it easy, you will not be able to do so. But it is obvious that you hate me for disagreeing. Again, another wonderful example of so-called tolerance and open mindedness from the “elite” that are supposedly so much more intelligent than us dumb Christians.
@beautyinbeautyout - Nope, I grew up in a conservative christian town, right at the end of the bible belt. It was miserable. But the thing is I overcame the bull shit and transcended adversity. I just don’t feel that I need a parade where I naked man rolls by on roller skates. I am all for free expression, but having a parade which has the biggest (I don’t mean to sound like a dick) but freaks of our community doesn’t really paint us in a normal light. We’re accepting of our people and culture but middle america sees gay people as a bunch of sinning heathens who are going to burn in hell. Maybe I was just raised to keep my private life to myself. Well, actually that is it, come to think of it. I always had to listen to people complain about flaunting their lifestyle and I NEVER EVER EVER EVER want to hear that from someone.
Anyway, I understand the point of it but in reality it just paints gthe gay community as a bunch of freaks and scares the conservative heteros who are taking away our freedoms. And in the end their opinion is what matters, because it’s by them who take away our rights and only by them who will give it to us.
@jstarboy12 - Thanks for the thoughtful response. I definitely hear & respect your position vis a vis ”freak parades” and see where it comes from. Maybe someday — in another lifetime? — the “regular” LGBT’s will feel free enough to participate.
@Megan@revelife - Here you go, I imagine very little would be sufficient as “proof” for you, but at the very least others might find this interesting. Sources included.
Scientific researchers specializing in human
sexuality have repeatedly shown that homosexuality is genetic.
Scientific research publications from October 2004 and June 2008 stated
that scientists have found that women tend to have more children when
they inherit the same genetic factors linked to homosexuality in men.
This fertility boost more than compensates for the lack of offspring
fathered by gay men, and keeps the “gay” genetic factors in circulation.
A 2005 study reported genetic scans showing a clustering of the same
genetic pattern among gay men on three chromosomes – chromosomes 7, 8,
and 10. The regions on chromosome 7 and 8 were associated with male
sexual orientation regardless of whether the man got them from his
mother or father. The regions on chromosome 10 were only associated with
male sexual orientation if they were inherited from the mother.
A study from 2006 said that researchers have known for years that a
man’s likelihood of being gay rises with the number of older biological
brothers, but the new study found that the so-called “fraternal birth
order effect” persists even if gay men were raised away from their
biological families. Anthony F. Bogaert, Ph.D., professor at Brock
University, said “The research suggests that the development of sexual
orientation is influenced before birth.”
The older-brother effect was constant regardless of whether the men were
raised with natural, adopted or stepbrothers. It also didn’t matter if
they weren’t raised with their biological mothers. If gay younger
brothers and older brothers don’t have the same home environments, what
do they have in common? “They shared the same uterus, the same womb, the
same mother,” Bogaert said.
In addition to these studies, other researchers have said:
“Potential for homosexual response is prevalent and genetic,” Santtila P
et. al.; Department of Psychology, Abo Akademi University.
“Genetic investigations provide strong evidence for a heritable
component to male and female sexual orientation,” Rahman Q et. al.;
School of Psychology, University of East London.
“Genetic research using family and twin methodologies has produced
consistent evidence that genes influence sexual orientation,” Mustanski
BS et. al.; Department of Psychology, Indiana University.
“The survival of a human predisposition for homosexuality can be
explained by sexual orientation being a polygenetic trait that is
influenced by a number of genes,” Miller EM.; University of New Orleans.
“Human sexual orientation has a heritable component,” Pillard RC et.
al.; Department of Psychiatry, Boston University School of Medicine.Source(s):http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?i…
http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/n…
http://www.livescience.com/health/080617…
http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Pregna…
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17904…
@Jessa1155 - Thanks. It’s good that you did it for others, but because of your presumptive and condescending comment in your first sentence, I don’t give any credibility to anything you write and I am going to assume that this is garbage. If someone who doesn’t think they are talking to an idiot wants to provide some evidence, I will be happy to read it.
@Megan@revelife - Excuse me!? I was being nice…. and sarcastic. You’re so defensive and aggressive. Why can’t you have a civilized conversation without getting so nasty?? I never called you an idiot. I may not agree with you, but it’s obvious you’re not an idiot. I have no issues with Christians, yourself included.
I provided links, so you don’t have to take my word for anything.
@Megan@revelife - And I meant “it won’t be sufficient as proof for you” because it ISN’T proof, just educated analysis. I’m not sure why you insist on taking comments as an insult, but whatever:)
@Jessa1155 - You preceded your citations with the assumption that I have a closed mind I would never accept what you say. That’s nice? Sarcasm doesn’t work in the written word. I am not getting nasty, that is your own defensiveness. Settle down.
@Jessa1155 - Actually you said “very little” would be proof for me, which expands the comment far beyond what you presented. If it makes you feel better about yourself to make so many assumptions about me, that is fine. I am happy to be of assistance.
@Megan@revelife - Wow. You’re a piece of work. I explained myself, yet you hold onto your grudge and your defensiveness like it’s your badge of honor. “So many assumptions”? What assumptions? Now you’re making assumptions about me making assumptions!! Hahaha…What a waste of energy.
Read it or don’t read it…it’s of very little consequence to me.
@Jessa1155 - You assume I am holding a grudge, when I am merely replying to your posts. You assume that I take comments as an insult when I do not feel insulted at all. You take my response, simple words (you cannot see my body language or face, so, naturally, all emotion must be assigned on the receiving end) and state that I am “defensive” and “aggressive”. You, again, call me nasty when I have not said anything remotely nasty. I have not called you names, I have not, unlike you, made any personal attacks on you, I have only attacked the precise words that you use to present yourself. You should consider just reading the words and assigning plain meanings, and not assign emotions on the part of the person writing them. This is simple debate, I have no intent to make you feel any emotion whatsoever. The fact that you have insisted, from the start, to make your comments about me personally as opposed to what you want to say…well, I don’t really know why you do that. Typically, I think people who do that know they don’t really have an argument to stand on. But I don’t want to assume anything about you.
@Megan@revelife - I was being a smart-ass, plain and simple. So maybe “sarcastic” was the wrong term. I found your manner to be a bit nasty… but that doesn’t mean YOU are indeed a nasty person. I wrote one sentence to you and I got a reply back refusing to give me credibility, accusing me of being presumptive, condescending and stating that what I had to say was probably “garbage”. I heard those words loud and clear and it took me off guard.
But sure, fine.. I made assumptions. We both did. I assumed by your language that you were offended. Perhaps this is just your normal manner of speaking. It seemed a bit aggressive and combative. Maybe I did as well. Fair enough:)
@Jessa1155 -
Fair enough
I love how there’s so much drama going down every time homosexuality comes up on Xanga
.If they give away free t-shirts, have good music playing and fireworks, I’m definitely in!
On a serious note, why does the debate of being born gay or not always comes up? Why does it even matter? Who cares if someone is born gay and turned straight or born straight and turned bisexual. It doesn’t matter how people became who they are as long as they are being who they want to be.
We all keep telling our children to be themselves and to accept individuality but as soon as someone is different, we don’t accept them. I always wondered what gay-haters would do or think if their own kid fumbled out of the closet?
Also, I see some girls are arguing that celebrating something you were born as isn’t something people should do. Heck, why not? Every parade and celebration bring people together so how is it a bad thing?
@Megan@revelife - there is plenty of research out there…look it up. And while you are at it, look up the research stating that we are born straight. Same difference. Obviously the proof that Jessa has provided is descredited because you didn’t like her “tone”. The fact is, you know that people don’t choose to be discriminated against. It isn’t a lifestyle choice, as much as being black, white, latino or asian is. I don’t “hate” anyone. I feel sorry that you cannot accept people for who they are…everyone is entitled to their opinions, however, hate and discrimination is unjustifiable. And if you say I make assumptions, you have as well by assuming that 1. I hate you 2. that I think i am smarter than “christians” and 3. that I consider myself “elite” I don’t, I have no reason to…I am no better than you or the gays or men or christians or atheists…I don’t care to be “better” than anyone. I simply don’t tolerate hate. I think its sad.
Hell yeah, I’m straight but would march alongside my friends!
@Jessa1155 - Your are so right it was declassified. Its still a mental illness. This is a lifestyle choose. You will never find a gene specifically identifying homosexuality because this would contradict the Holy Word of God. As God I to love the person hate the deplorable sinful act. You need to check out the web sites like Focus on the Family anfd other Christian based websites that show these things In public. It’s disgusting
@Trixy460 -
You make it clear that you equate hatred with disagreeing with someone’s opinion or lifestyle so why wouldn’t I think you hate me? I mean, I hate gay people, apparently; at least you seem to know that. I was just following your statements to their logical conclusion. Also, I never mentioned her tone. Why did you put it in quotes? Do you always find it necessary to make up things about people in order to justify your conclusions?
The “sickness” we should all be aware of and fight against is homophobic hate and self-righteousness. As I stated in my previous comment, scientific researchers specializing in human sexuality have repeatedly shown that homosexuality is genetic. But this argument is not the core issue in my opinion. Homosexuality contradicts the “Holy Word of God”? Many Christians passionately disagree with you on that account.
”The fraudulent misuse of the Bible as an authority for vicious hate is not perhaps uncommon,but it is cruel and horrific.This long pattern of self indulgent self righteousness is a sickness.It masquerades as a moral message but it does so attacking first one and then another of us and does so without conscience, enlightenment or love. It is a campaign of extreme hate that violates everything the Bible seeks to teach, the churches and synagogues to inspire, and what the spiritual center of this nation mandates. It is a sickness and we must speak out, all of us, before it becomes a plague.”
I sincerely hope you read this:
http://alison.hine.net/essays/karnan.htm
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@Megan@revelife - As I clearly stated, I don’t hate anyone. As I clearly stated, everyone is entitled to their opinion. What I consider hate is speaking against someone for simply being who they are without trying to even get to know them or understand them. My assumption is, you have no connection with the gay community, because if you did, I don’t feel you would have said the things you said.
Either way, continue on with whatever you think, thats fine, I just think its sad that you feel the way you do.
@Trixy460 -
God isn’t sad for me, and He takes priority over anyone on Xanga, so I’m not too concerned.
@Jessa1155 - well said!
@Megan@revelife - good for you
No because I’m proud to be straight. Just as if we had a “straight pride parade” you wouldn’t see gay’s marching in it, yes?
i think i would enjoy being around new people, no matter what the event. so yes.
Yes.
http://bosefius.xanga.com/729392876/solving-the-boob-discussion/?page=2#viewcomments
No and I’m gay. I have marched in the past to make my friends happy but the parade always brings out the extremes in the gay community. If you want to march that’s fine but I’m going to go if I’m the one who’s going to get a bad rep from straight people complaining. Besides I don’t like rainbows and I’m kind of homophobic actually. I don’t understand why gay people have to make such a big deal about being gay and identifying solely as gay. I act the same way straight people do with the exception that I date the same sex.
Romans 1
God’s Wrath Against Mankind
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
I heard pride was fun.. Ive never been there but i would like to someday!! I support gays 100% & i think they should have the same rights as straights… Most of my friends are eaither gay or Bi..I would go to pride 2 support them any day!!
@Charity333 - Well if im going 2 hell im not going alone… I dont believe me or my family & friends are going 2 go 2 hell for likeing gays… & only god HIMSELF can judge you & i doubt god will send someone 2 hell for being gay… They get tortured enough on earth for being a lil different than every 1 elese… They have no = rights & discriminated like crazy… Its not rite!! I hate how people treat people different than them… Wether ur gay-straight-skinny-fat-black-white-mixed.. It doesnt matter.. If god wanted us all to be the same we would all be gay-straight-skinny-fat-black-white-mixed. but the fact is WERE NOT… Dont down someone because there different than u… being different than someone makes life interesting & u learn something new… If we were all the same life would be boring because we would have nothing 2 talk about..
No, probably not.