October 9, 2010

  • Checking Facebook Messages

    Let me give you a hypothetical.  Imagine that your 13 year old son left his facebook open and forgot to sign out. 

    Would you check his personal messages to make sure he was not doing anything wrong?

                                                                          

Comments (150)

  • Psh, my mom broke into my messages to make sure I wasn’t do anything wrong.

  • No. But I would hijack his status. 

  • hmmm…..probably

  • Dunno…not a mother of teenagers. 

  • I’m not sure. If my kid had a reputation for trouble, maybe I’d check. But my mom has read my diary and such, I really don’t want to do that to my kids unless I have a legit reason. 

  • Nope. Doing something wrong to check to see if they are doing something wrong is just silly. Besides what possible wrong could a 13 year old be doing? Yeah he might drink, yeah he might smoke a little, but there isn’t much else he can get into. If you can’t find that shtuff out with out going through his personal life than he’s obviously doing something right. Just make sure he gets good grades and and is the best person he can be.

  • No that is wrong. Anyone who just does that for no reason deserves to be hated by their kids forever and put in a nursing home. And not a good nursing home either. One where they steal your medication and eat your apple sauce.

  • I wouldn’t have to wait for him to leave it open, I’d have access to it at all times anyway. :)

  • Prolly. But just who they’re from.

  • Honestly, no, I don’t think I would. 

  • No, that would be a violation of trust and privacy.

  • Yes! He’s thirteen! He hasn’t the slightest idea of the world and its dangers yet. Hopefully i’d be involved with my child’s life enough that I wouldn’t have to worry about it anyway.

  • @SexyGamerGirl - Agreed

    But if there isn’t a legit reason I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t invade my child’s trust and privacy to be nosey.

  • Absolutely not.

  • If I had a legit reason, maybe I would.  I wouldn’t violate his trust for no reason.

  • No. Trust is a two-way street–your son should be able to trust you just as much as you want to be able to trust your son. Looking through your kid’s stuff to make sure he isn’t being untrustworthy is hypocritical.

  • I occasionally ask my daughter to let me see her FaceBook page. Just like I used to ask to see her MySpace page. She’ll sit next to me while I look at it and actually explain some of the silliness that takes place on it. Do I trust her? Absolutely. She’s a sixteen year kid with an incredibly good head on her shoulders. Does that mean I shouldn’t check now and then to see who she’s friends with and how they interact with her? Heck no! I generally trust her judgment there, but we have disagreed in at least two instances over who was an appropriate friend. It’s my job as her mother to keep her safe. That means I look. It doesn’t mean that I read every single thing on her page word for word or spend all night perusing her private messages. I skim. I look at subject headings sometimes. Most of the time, my kid has already told me anything that I’d see in her messages anyway.

    Should you sneak and do it? Heck no! Build a relationship with your kid and let them know what you’re doing and why. Do it in front of them and ask for their participation. Let them know that you’re not trying to dig up dirt on them or find a reason to be mad at them. Respect their privacy as much as you can. And don’t witch hunt or hold what you see against them. Heck, it’s not up for discussion unless she volunteers it, in our house.

  • Nope. I don’t appreciate it when my parents creep through my stuff, so I wouldn’t do the same to my kids if I had any.

  • Nope. I don’t even do that when my husband leaves his up on his laptop. I would write something witty and possibly embarassing on my son’s Facebook status though hahaha!

  • No. Not to say I wouldn’t be tempted, but no. That’s about the age I was when my mom was reading my emails and I got really mad at her for it. But I suppose it depends on how much you trust your kid. Some kids probably do need parents screening their stuff. 

  • My daughter is 21 and I make it perfectly clear to her that the words private and computer don’t go together in this house. My position is one not only of authority in my house, but of responsibility. No one comes into my house without my approval, whether it be through the door, the windows, or Windows XP.

  • Heck yeah! Never give a teenager an even break.

  • I have a 12 year old. I can tell you definitively: No.    Developmentally, privacy is incredibly important at this stage in our kids’ lives.   Technology today is different than it was when we were kids. To look into their facebook is like your mother reading your diary when you were 13 or picking up the phone in the kitchen while you were talking in the living room.    Big No-no if you want your kid to love and respect you. Talk talk talk. Don’t spy spy spy!

  • @AOK4WAY - Wow. your comment was kind of shocking! You spy on your 21 year old daughter?   Is there an age when you will expect her to magically be able to live on her own without your supervision?      I understand you’re not going to like this comment very much — but isn’t monthering all about teaching your birds how to fly on their own?

  • I was never given any reason to suspect my kids were doing anything wrong, no particular moodiness or withdrawal or acting out.  Now what they did after they moved out…well…I have heard rumors that I would most certainly like some answers to…but even those have faded into history now.  They are both good kids with good kids of their own.  Sometimes when we all get together I hear a few things that I would have killed them over but it is stuff like finding a fire ant mound next to the house and pouring lighter fluid all over it and lighting it.  Then there was the time my eldest (then 12) rode his bicycle to the next town looking for a particular store to buy his step-dad the “right” birthday present.  Once my youngest found some girlie magazines in the park and brought them home for me to look at with him…wooopie! an afternoon of female porn…wasn’t that exciting.  Nope, I never checked up on them but if they had become withdrawn or acting out, or especially secretive my only fear would have been drugs and then maybe I would have looked….but the situation never came up.

  • I’d make sure he wasn’t mass messaging people.

  • If you know the person they have been talking to is bad news and can cause harm to your child then yes,it’s no different than running into a burning house to grab them and pull them out. A 13 year old has know clue of the dangers on the internet and they are VERY impressionable. You have to ask questions and pay attention to their LIFE though to know if there is danger they are dealing with on the internet though. Throw privacy out the window if it means protecting your child.Teenagers and younger on here,you may disagree,but what if you had a child that was doing what you were doing,you have to ask yourself the question. If I wouldn’t want my child doing what I’m doing,why am I doing it?

  • @nyfemme - I’m a father, and I’m responsible for my house. She could live on her own now without supervision if she chose to. She chooses to stay, and she submits to her father’s will like a good daughter. I’m very proud of her! I guard her mind just as jealously as I guard her body. I keep her safe in every way to the best of my ability, and if she chooses to stay in my house to my dying day, she is welcome.

  • I wouldn’t…and my mother wouldn’t have done the same to me.

  • Not likely. My husband and I agree that with our future children, snooping is not something we agree with UNLESS we have legitimate reason to believe that our child is at risk or in some sort of trouble. Snoop just because I can? No, that’s not fair. But if I am truly concerned about my child, and have exhausted other avenues, then yes, I would snoop where I could. But only if I am truly worried for their safety.

  • No, thankfully my sons don’t need that kind of checking up on. They have good judgement and have earned the right to be trusted.

  • Never. I remember my mom used to snoop in my diary when I was younger and I HATED it. Nothing wrong with talking to the kid about privacy settings and being careful about what you put on there, but I wouldn’t go poking my nose around in their business. I guarantee if the kid found out about it he’d be furious and less likely to trust/want to come to you with other things.

  • No..;I would have a face to face with him if I thought he was up to no good.

  • If he had something to hide, he probably would be more careful about signing out.

  • i’m nosey, so yes. There is not such thing as ‘privacy’ when your still a minor.

  • Depends on his character. But, probably, if I were that curious, I wouldn’t wait around for something like that. I’d just tell him I wanted to see it. 

  • @OhMissKett - lmao! if my mother ever did that I wouldn’t even be mad, I would laugh. 

  • facebook is starting to piss me off. people are so stupid. Xanga is so awesome because not a lot of people know each other irl as much as facebook. 

    talk about no sense of humor. >.< 

  • yeah i would. i’m a parent here to protect my kid, not to get away with shit. 

    Besides, 13 year olds don’t need a myspace or facebook. If i didn’t have it, they sure don’t need it.

  • Hell yeah. My house, my rules, the internet is being paid by with my money and he’s MY kid.

    Then again, thank god I’m not interested in having children.

  • @Bushy_Tailed - at 13.. there is alot they can do.

  • Hell I make them log in and i read it with them standing there. They know I will be checking but it is not just to “bust” them. Its to make sure no creeps are trying to get at my babies. 

  • @Megan@revelife - HA!  If I was in the nursing home, I would knock down the orderlies for the applesauce!

  • unless the kid gave me a reason to not trust him… no.

  • @pharewings - If you don’t notice it with out going on to their facebook than I’m going to assume that the parent is just god awful. Just keep of with their grades and make sure the have manner ect. If they do that in my book, there pretty free to do as they please in my book.

  • If I thought my 12 year old sister was hanging with a bad crowd of kids where bad things were going on, hell yes I would be nosy.  But both sister’s have given me no reason to so right now I wouldn’t.  But I would change their status to something funny :D

  • I might write something stupid about not logging out as his status. :P But, no, I don’t think I would check.

  • I sure would, as long as he is in my house he is under my protection, so I have all access to everything he would do to protect him and keep him straight. 

  • Yes. I would look because there are lot of evil people in the world, even if he is a trustworthy child. I wouldn’t let him know I looked unless there was serious concern.
    It’s not the same as reading a child’s diary. Personal privacy is a good thing but facebook is not neccessarily safe for a tween or child. You know, I don’t even think my thirteen year old would have their own page and if they did, I would need to know their password. When they got older it would be a different story…more freedom and privileges as he matures.

  • No, because if my children end up being anything like me then I’ve got nothing to worry about. 

  • Probably a status hijack… nothing much more than that.. it’ll be tempting .. but naw.. lol

  • No. I believe in trusting people to do the right thing, even teenagers. My parents trusted me to not do stupid and illegal things, and I didn’t. I like to believe my hypothetical child was trust worthy. If he was a “problem” then maybe, but without any such cause for concern, I would trust him. People are what you think they are. If you treat them like untrustworthy children, they will act like such, but if you treat them like adults, they will act like adults. You cannot control your children forever. 

    Also, that picture is funny. Thanks for the laugh. :)

  • Not without plenty of evidence that he was already headed for trouble. I wouldn’t check out of blatant curiosity or a baseless lack of trust.

  • No wonder kids these days are assholes! Their pansy parents let them get away with everything.

    My mother snooped on me, read my diary and notes…and stopped me from doing alot of stupid shit. God knows what would have happened if she hadn’t read them!

    If my kid left his facebook up I would read the messages…and if he left his phone out I would read his texts also. You earn privacy when you become an adult.

  • Question is, do you trust him?

  • Um, no. I have unfriended my mom countless times in the past because it was just…weird. We hardly talk in person, why should we be friends on there? I’d rather just talk to her like normal than have her ask about random pictures I may or may not have posted, or status messages, which are generally dorky..it just feels like an invasion of privacy to me, so, no.

  • i am amazed at this. tally so far about spying on kids:

    8 pro12 con (13 if i’m included)
    curious results. i wouldn’t spy on a teen… that is cause my trust was screwed up as a child by the same BS behavior. so even though i loathe anyone who does that, i understand where they are coming from… namely fear mongering liars… i digress, i wouldn’t do it.

  • probably more out of curiosity

  • Nope. Never. One thing parent do horribly wrong is breaking the trust between their child and them based on the age old, “I’m the parent, I know better”. Guess what? If your child learns to not trust you, they won’t come to you about important issues like sex, depression, and abuse.

  • Blogging in your comments tonight, Dan… lol

    In general, no, because – **hopefully** – I would have a good enough relationship with my teenager that I (a) trusted them and (b) could ask them periodically to let me glance at their messages, with them sitting there.  Now, if my teen had a recent history of drug use, underage drinking, unprotected sex, sneaking out / lying to me about where they are going, or some other major negative behavior that had already caused them to lose my trust – then I might look at it.  But if I did, I wouldn’t make a big deal about anything that wasn’t major (kids are going to use language with their friends that we wish they wouldn’t & small things like that), and I would let them know that I looked at it.  Furthermore, if there *wasn’t* anything majorly inappropriate there, I would let them know that I was happy with them for that.

  • I don’t think so. I don’t know if that’s a good way to even gauge if they’re doing anything bad. My messages are always about events at schools from frats and school based organizations. I think my last real message from someone was back in July or August. I forget that people actually use the messaging, so I probably wouldn’t check it haha. 

  • If my mother checked my messages, I’d be doomed. Well, not really, most of them are just sorting out my mate’s ‘relationship’ problems (but honestly I don’t know anything), but further down on the messages, if my father read them, he’d kick me out. I’d go happily anyway, if he couldn’t accept me I wouldn’t mind going, when I have great friends around me.

    I never close facebook without logging off, but if they did check my messages, I’d be pretty annoyed.

  • if I were a mother, I would check his status, his message, and read some comments (:

  • @Automaton_Emotion - I told my daughter that she could have a Facebook page only if she let me be “friends” with her. So I had to go on facebook :) . I go months sometimes without logging on, but sometimes I browse. It’s like the old fashioned parenting when kids always had a chaperone along. Just so they know you’re looking out for them. PLUS kids need to know that anything they say on facebook is not private! It’s not like writing in a diary. It might be read be a prospective employer (or voter). If you put in on the web, it’s public. My daughter knows I trust her. So I give her space. She also knows I care enough to pay attention to who she’s talking to, etc. 

  • I have a 13 year old daughter and I check her FB regularly.  I started checking it when her relationship status changed to dating some kid a grade ahead of her.  Everything about him was shady.  He claimed they had classes at opposite ends of the school so he would never be able to meet her, he used justin beiber pics and claim that was him, he has a girl on there that he cant get right if its his sister or cousin.  He wanted to meet her downtown of the small town we live in, and told her to bring a friend.  He wouldnt talk to her on the phone and the one time he did leave a voicemail it totally sounds like he was trying to disguise his voice.  All of her friends think hes a fake, now hes posted harsh words on their FB pages and is now moving to Virginia… Shes 13, and very nieve…  she doesnt grasp the concept that he could be a pedophile, she could get abducted, raped or even killed by meeting people over the internet.   She can hate me all she wants too for snooping or looking on her page, but as long as I know shes safe and ok, Im ok with that.  

  • I, as a parent, would know my child’s password. I’d give them the privacy to their messages (unless they gave me a reason not too), but I would check their comments and wall posts.

  • No, because that’s stupid. It’s their business, not yours. My mother has never meddled with my personal life where I did not want her and I really, really appreciate it. I’m going to be the same way with my kids. 

    (Then again, it’s not to say that some situations wouldn’t warrant it. I would understand if you knew your teenager was depressed and were worried they could be thinking of doing something stupid or that something really bad had happened to them (i.e. rape). Teens aren’t likely to talk to parents about their problems so it’s only natural to want to ease your child’s pain even if you have to reveal to them what you did in order to confront them about it. So in a dire situation…. maybe.) But as a general rule, no.

  • No, definitely NOT, because I respect their right to privacy. I would be so angry if my parents had gone through my Facebook or something – it’s pretty much the modern-day equivalent of reading their diary. Talk to your kids, don’t snoop around behind their backs – that’s what leads to horrible child-parent relationships.

  • My 13yr is my friend on Facebook. And she lets me check if I really wanted to.

  • I retain the kids’ passwords, period. I won’t be sneaking around, but yes, I do and will continue to monitor what they’re up to.

  • Absolutely. It’s your job as father to protect him.. You can’t do that unless you know what’s going on in his life. Privacy in the bathroom is one thing; Privacy in the world-wide web is another.

  • My kids leave their Facebook accounts open all the time, and no, I never check their messages. It’s an invasion of privacy and if I’m worried about them I’ll talk to them about my concerns, not snoop in their stuff.

  • Unless I had reason to suspect, no I wouldn’t I may glance at the page he left it on though =P

  • When I was at that age til I was 19 (before I moved out to university), my mom would snoop around my room. I never caught her doing it, but I just know. I hated it back then. I hated my mom for not trusting me – and it’s simply because I had something to hide.

    Now that I’m in my 30s, I now know why she did it, and I appreciate her more to know she was looking out for me even though I hated what she did when I was younger. She is probably one of my bestest friend now. I can tell her anything – even what I was hiding back then.
    I wasn’t going down the right path then, but now…. it’s like this, if i have nothing to hide, then there is really nothing to hide. My room is open to anybody to snoop around ’cause I have nothing to hide. I’d rather have their trust than not have their trust at all even if it means them doing something showing they don’t trust me (which if you think deep enough, I probably lost their trust somewhere and it needs to be earned back). 
    Your son is 13 and he is living under your roof. He is under your complete responsibility. If for him to become a happy young man with a wonderful future, then do whatever it takes to get that. But once you know you can trust him, then be relieved that you are raising a wonderful child.

  • Depends on if your kid is good with computers.  Because if it was me and I found out.  I’d probably wipe the whole thing clean just so you’d have to buy another copy of the opperating system…just saying.  Kids are vengful some times…

  • No.  But if I ever suspected anything to be wrong, I would demand the password with his full knowledge.  

    However, in this case, he’s just asking for a status hijack.  

  • my kids wont have any sort of social media.

    ill explain to them early on that they will regret it when they are adults and their employers are looking at that shit.
    if my kids don’t question mainstream society enough by that age ill see a problem

  • unless my kid had a history of doing “bad” things (oh yay monosyllabicdescriptive words.  the mornings are the death of me)

  • Personally, I think 13 is too young to be on Facebook at all. I believe in the rules you are supposed to be at least 14 to sign up. 

    However, if  you do allow your CHILD to be on facebook, I believe it is the parents’ right and obligation to check what their child is doing  on Facebook occasionally.  I believe that the parents should have all passwords and can randomly check what is being said to their child and who their friends are at any time.  Just browse thier page…not read every word.  It isn’t a violation of privacy if the kid doesn’t expect privacy from you.  You aren’t necessarily checking up on your child, but others.  I am an adult and I get friend requests from creeps and all sorts of stuff I don’t want all the time, you are protecting your child from the outside world. 

  • if i accidentally stumbled across it like that then i would but i am nosy so i would just be curious. i do it to my husband as well… not because i dont trust him but basically b/c i am usually bored. my husband knows this and he doesnt care. i am sure my son will catch on as well. i am not the type of person who would try to figure out his password just to get in but if its up then why not take a peek? hehehe! i am really nosy!

  • I also have to add that I was a teenager when the internet just hit it big and there was all sorts of pervs out there all the time.  Every time I signed on to AOL chatrooms I would have about 20 odd    30- and 40-somethings contacting me talking about sex and all sorts of things I still wouldn’t like to repeat.   I had a good head on my shoulders and ignored them, blocked them, and left them well alone, but if it happened to me it can happen to any child.  I saw an episode of Law and Order:SVU where Stabler, who was a father of 3 at the time, was concerned because he had a case at the time where a teenage girl met a (who she thought) was a boy her age over the internet and met up with him.  He turned out to be a 40 year old rapist.  Stabler was talking to his wife once he got home and said:  “I can lock the doors and windows, but now they can come into our home through there [the computer]”   

    Also, children have to realize that Facebook is not private–it’s a social network.  Everything they say and do is publicized, and it is information that will be on the internet FOREVER.  Prospective employees, voters, future spouses, etc.  Can just google your name and everything you put out there is available.  So if it is available for everyone to see, why shouldn’t the parents be able to see it?

    And as a monitoring parent, I would only bring up things that could potentially damage my child’s life, like creepy outsiders I don’t want them to be friends with, racy photos they need to take down,etc.  I wouldn’t bring up foul language used by friends or anything, because it’s pointless.  Teenagers use foul language with their friends…it’s developmentally normal. 

  • My daughter was allowed to get Facebook and a hotmail account (and MSN messenger) with the explicit condition that we had her logins and passwords, and that we WOULD be checking up on her. She got herself into some situations that involved removal of computer privileges and I shut down her Fbook account. So yes, at 13 I would still be checking my child(ren)’s computer activities.

  • I probably would. I definitely would if I had reason to believe he was doing something wrong. If not, I dunno.

  • I wouldn’t read their FB messages unless I felt I had a good reason.  Why?  Because I feel if I can do as good a job raising my children as my mother did with me (yes, I have a father, he isn’t a good one; yes they’re still [unhappily] married), then I won’t need to look at their messages.  Kids need to be able to vent.  If I’ve upset my kiddos at some point (every good parent does), then I’m sure they’ll vent.  I don’t think I need or want to read that.  (They’re currently 4 years & 11 months so I have old – this is a while away.)  And for everything else, they should come to me. 

    I am not naive enough to believe my kids will tell me everything.  But if they feel as safe with me, my husband or both as I felt with my mom – then I know that the important things will be more likely to be discussed openly.  I didn’t just share the little things with my mom, I shared the big things as well.  I’m hoping & praying that my husband & I will raise our children to be the same way.  That will eliminate any need for “snooping” & they will safely enjoy their privacy.  If any of them seem to be having issues with honesty or behavior & they aren’t opening up, then yes – it is my responsibility to keep them safe. 

    The only times that I see myself checking in on them online is during their first year being online where they can be exposed to strangers.  I want them to know that stranger danger exists even more so online.  If I see that I can trust them during this first year, then afterwards I won’t feel the need to see their messages – again, unless I feel something is wrong that they aren’t opening up about. 

  • I wouldn’t think about checking unless I have a GOOD reason to

  • Yes, I would. My child would be thirteen – I probably would let him or her have a facebook or myspace or anything. I didn’t have true access to a computer until I was in eighth grade. Kids these days are getting too unruly because parents let them have TOO much privacy as well as technology at their fingertips when they’re eight. I’m going to be a fairly strict parent. I work with kids and teens and I see what they do and I definitely do not want my kids and teens doing what I’ve witnessed.

  • I don’t think any parent confident enough that they’ve done a good job with their kid could do that.  

  • Well it all depends on if you trust your child, Parents know who there children are to some extent, but if you feel their doing something wrong then you need to check up on them you dont want them going down the wrong path rite, its pretty much your duty as a parent to make sure there doing okay in all aspects of life.

  • @AOK4WAY - Do you read her diary too?

  • No, but I might leave an embarrassing status update hah. If facebook is still alive, I’d never add my kids. I might add all of his friends, but NOT MY SON. “No son, you do not get to have my approval as a Facebook friend.” Kidding.. sort of :3 

  • @mangotini - Excuse me for being blunt, but what concern is that of yours? My reason for commenting here isn’t to account for the affairs of my house. It’s to speak a little common sense. The only thing every parent can trust their kids to do is be kids. Kids are not adults, their brains are not fully mature, their intellects are not fully mature, they’re idealistic, naive, and adventurous at times. That leads to bad decisions. Add a pervert or bad influence to that mix and kids get hurt.

  • I would figure that most parents would do this. Whether their child is doing something suspicious or not doing anything at all. It’s a parent’s right to check up on their child. It’s a parent’s right to do whatever the heck they want. I caught my mother checking my brother’s facebook. I asked her why, and she asked, “why not? He left it up and open.” Makes sense. A lot of parents snoop. For simply just wanting to be nosy and have a good laugh, or check it see if something is going on. And by the way…my brother probably should have remembered to sign out. Technically it’s not all my mother’s fault if his facebook is wide open and enticing! 

  • @grammarboy - I agree with grammarboy. I wouldn’t want to invade my child’s privacy and trust.  If we let our children know that we trust them, I think they will be more likely not to let us down.

  • @Bushy_Tailed - If only it were that simple. Children are not robots. You can try to guide them in the right directions but they are going to make up there own minds, hide things, and make a whole lot of mistakes. My children are -not- my friends. They are my kids and it is my job to sometimes hurt there feeling and have them scream at me ‘I don’t understand when I do’. So that when they have kids they can turn around and do the same thing. Knowing that being your child’s parent and not there friend means they will be better adults and parents in there own right. And it is not only to make sure they are or are not screwing up when i do go threw there facebooks, its also to make sure that there are no creeps wanting to hurt my kids. Or other kids posting to my kids about poor decisions so I can inform there parents. I will/have/ and shall do again. I would rather my kids think i am the devil herself if it mean they will be safe and well rounded adults. I know they will thank me for it later. I know I loathed my folks for doing it.. and now I thank them. 

  • I like how I read some comments about 13 year olds not even being able to get into much trouble. I’m 14, and you wouldn’t believe half the shit my grade does…

  • I would. but i’m terrible

  • @Megan@revelife - what the heck? that is about the most random answer ever! haha i love it. but no, i probably would. i can be pretty nosy sometimes. im not gonna lie. yes i hate it when people nose around my personal life. or if someone was reading through my text messages which my dad has done before, i usually dont like it. i think its just a curiosity we all have. we like to check up on things, kids shelter their parents from so much. and there is so much out of our lives that our parents miss. i think its only natural of them to be curious. at least you are as a parent, allowing their child the freedom to have a facebook. there are some pretty crazy stories out there!

  • I would just because I’m nosy.  Granted, I will tell my children that anything that leave open is free for the taking; at least that way they will be careful about logging out for when they are on public computers.

  • I’d be tempted to, but if I had no indication that something was amiss, I wouldn’t.  I know how violated I felt when I found out my mother had read my diary when I honestly thought I hadn’t done anything to make her think I was in trouble.

  • @pharewings - The only mistake I would care about is school. Every thing else is up too them. They’re free to do drugs if they don’t get caught, I’d warn them of the dangers and let them decide on it. If school started to become a problem I would throw my wrath down on them. Otherwise They are free to do as they please. Of course I’ll warn them, but I refuse to control them. I’ll let them decide whether they want to tell me things or not, as I will tell them anything they want to know about my life. 

  • @JaadeLindsey - It’s all a matter of opinion on how and what you consider to be serious shit.

  • @Grampa_David - Exactly. If I were ever to check on my child’s facebook messages or do anything else that would generally be an invasion of privacy, it would be for good reason, and it wouldn’t be sneaky; he would be there going through with me.

  • change his sexual preference! 

  • @AOK4WAY - True, kids are not fully mature, but in order for them to properly grow and mature into adults, they require a certain level of respect and privacy. It’s simple Psychology. A diary especially is something sacred and healthy for a young child to have, and a facebook message that is written with an expected level of privacy should also be respected. You should have an open line of communication with your children, rather than having to snoop behind their backs to find out what’s going on in their lives. It’s intrusive, and unnecessary if you can develop a good relationship with them. 

    My grandmother used to snoop in my mother’s room, and because of it, my mother stopped keeping a diary, or anything private at all in her home. She wasn’t doing anything wrong, and it hurt her to know that her mother didn’t trust her and caused resentment that has lasted her entire life. My mother never ever snooped in my things, and frankly, she never had to because she made it clear that I could come to her about anything, and she was involved in my life. She was always the first person I’d talk to about issues, because I knew I wouldn’t be punished if I wasn’t hiding it. She asked a lot of questions and knew the ins and outs of what I was up to, without ever having to find out through deception.
    There is more than one approach to finding out what your kids are up to. However, there is arguably a BETTER approach than invading their privacy and making them resent you for it.

  • @Bushy_Tailed - Does doing drugs, being a dealer, and juvie count as serious shit? 

  • @JaadeLindsey - Only if it interferes in school. If they get caught doing that I will also throw down hell, but otherwise mehhh.

  • @Bushy_Tailed - Hope that works out for you when you have kids. 

  • I wouldn’t be concerned about going through his stuff if he left it open.  Before he would even be allowed to have one, we would have the agreement that he is to let me on there to check out who he talking to and adding whenever I ask him.  Just b/c kids have to the tendency to add people to there fb that they don’t know.  Or better yet, he would be on on my fb friends list, with an understanding that he is not to use the privacy settings to hide his friends or status msgs from me. 

    If he doesn’t have anything to hide, then it won’t be a big deal.   

  • Definitely not. That’s just the kind of thing that will break his trust in me. 

  • @mangotini - Consider this friend: If my children felt they had to keep certain things from me, wouldn’t that imply that they didn’t trust me enough to be perfectly open with me? My children have no reason not to trust me. I’m not invading their privacy, because they have no right to privacy in my house with regard to social interaction. There is not one thing that happens in my house that I am not entitled to know about. I exercise my parental authority. That’s not the reason I stay on top of things though, it isn’t about power. It’s an act of love.

    Which line of communication is more open friend, one in which I am aware only of what my children choose to tell me, or one in which I am aware of everything they do, every decision they make, and everyone they talk to? Which is more useful in protecting them before something goes wrong? Listen to the wisdom of the world, and I’m a tyrant who doesn’t trust his kids. Listen to my kids and I’m a father who loves them, and whom they trust beyond anything those other “parents” will ever experience. My kids don’t feel it’s necessary to hide anything because they aren’t doing anything that needs to be hidden.

    For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. (John 3:20-21)

    You see, I understand why the world demands privacy for children. It’s because the world knows that if parents know who and what and why and where and how about everything their kids do, it ain’t gonna get to have its way with them. Some parents just can’t be bothered with their own kids’ lives it would seem. They’re the ones who have no foundation to stand on, whose views change to accomodate their childrens’ failings, failings they could have prevented but didn’t care enough to, who please the world and betray their children, who see their nightmares come true as their kids grow into adults (if they give two beans about ‘em in the first place).

    I’m into protecting my children, not reacting to the injuries they suffer because I’m more worried about what the world thinks about me or the way I run my house than I am about their well being. My children have always had their expectations regarding privacy met. If you don’t want me to know about it, don’t do it. If you’d be ashamed of something when I find out about it, it surely will be shameful when someone else does. No one is more proud of their kids than I am

    My daughter keeps a diary. I don’t read it. No harm can come to her simply by writing to herself. Even so, a diary is not sacred. My daughter’s life is sacred. My daughter’s mind is sacred. My daughters soul and spirit are sacred. That diary can be left out in the rain or burned to ashes and nothing is lost. It doesn’t work that way with a child’s mind, heart, body, soul or spirit.

    It never ceases to amaze me how the very same people who run around gushing about how precious their children are turn around and leave their treasure out for every pig, pervert and malefactor to spoil, steal or destroy. And that’s what “trusting” your kids amounts to, because you’re trusting them to do things they aren’t capable of yet, like make good decisions, discern when someone is trying to take advantage of them, or lure them into something shady. Only a fool would trust a kid beyond their capabilities. It’s no smarter than letting a 5 year old drive a car. I can trust them not to hit anyone on purpose, but…

    The fact is that it isn’t about trust at all. That seems to be what people are missing. I trust my kids 100%. I don’t trust the other guy. Pick the most dangerous neighborhood you know of. Would you let your kids wander around there unattended? Probably not. Does that mean you don’t trust them? Of course not! The internet brings people from that neighborhood and every bad neighborhood in the world within reaching distance of my kids, and I’m the guy with the shotgun on the porch, keeping the bad guys out. Okay, it’s an AK-47

    Psych, huh? My educational background is grounded in cognition and psychopathology. Thanks for the tip

    Thanks for the conversation, too. Your response is welcome if you’re so inclined. Peace to you

  • Probably not.  But if I had a trouble-making, rule-breaking, and overall BAD teenage boy, I just might.

  • (hypothetical situation) I would also like to add that I wouldn’t hide the fact that I am monitoring his facebook. He is only 13 after all and still a minor in need of guidance and supervision.  Facebook is not the same as a private journal or diary. If he is going to have a facebook account then it needs to be monitored, period.  These being the conditions, it wouldn’t be an ivasion of privacy.

  • YES! If I had reason not to trust him. Or her since I have a daughter.

  • What does a 13-year-old have to keep private? I’m wouldn’t snoop, but I would get their username and password (for every account) and check up if I felt the need. I wouldn’t keep it a secret from them.

    I’m pretty nosy as a sister, so once I got suspicious of my little sister, I read her diary. Found out she was smoking and drinking alcohol, so I told my dad. I don’t care if she hates me (she doesn’t know I know), I’m doing what is best for health. When she can get her grades up and quit failing classes, maybe she can party a little. So yeah, if my kid was acting up, I would read their messages. It’s for their sake, not mine.

  • @Automaton_Emotion - I’m 16 and back in the day when I had a myspace, my mom would force me to show her mine also. We have a really close relationship and I tell her everything anyways, but I felt violated regardless of whether she looked at it behind my back or with me sitting right there. Messages and friends are private, and as long as she’s not talking to 40 year old pedophiles, I don’t think there’s a need to “skim” her stuff. I’ve made friends on the internet through Xanga and Youtube and other internet sites, and if my mom found out about them she would be upset. She sees the internet as a scary place full of creeps who want to rape young girls..which can be true, but it’s also a good, fun place. It stops being fun when you have to be paranoid of your parents checking in on you like you’re 5. I hope this doesn’t come off as rude..I’m just getting straight to the point. :P I think it’s awesome that you’re involved in her life, and she’s lucky to have a mom who truly cares :)

  • @heartintheclouds_quotes - You said “forced.” That’s a no-no. I ask. She does have the option of saying no. She knows, though, that she’s not going to get any consequences out of anything I see. But that would be the point of skimming through stuff – to identify those “friends” of hers who aren’t entirely appropriate. As I said, she and I have disagreed on a couple already. When there’s a 36 year old man honestly flirting with her on FaceBook, I’m glad I do skim her page now and then. Besides, I can see most of it, anyway. Her dad and I are friends of hers on both of those sites by her choice.

    Why is it fun to do things you feel you couldn’t do in front of your parents? Maybe we’re more permissive than most parents in a lot of regards, but there is very little that my daughter and her friends don’t feel comfortable discussing or doing in front of us. She’s not going to be drinking or getting high or having sex in front of us anytime soon (or at all, really) or anything, but there honestly shouldn’t be anything a kid should feel they couldn’t take to their mom and dad. Our job as parents is to guide you into becoming intelligent, capable, independent adults who can contribute to society. We make mistakes. We made ‘em when we were growing up and we make them now. So there is no mistake or action that you could make that your parents shouldn’t be able to understand. No matter what, my kid is my kid is my kid. As long as she’s healthy and safe and happy, then she’s got my support all the way. Regardless of whether I agree with her or what she’s done, I love her. Period.

    Sometimes, I think parents forget what it was like as a kid. That, or they get caught up in doing all of those things people think parents are supposed to do and forget the real purpose of raising a kid. Good luck with your moms, kiddo.

  • i dont give a SHIT if it makes my kid mad, i will snoop!! i was the one in labor for what seemed like forever, clothed you, fed you, wiped your poopy butt, and payed for your endless dance lessons!! imma make sure you aint up to anything bad. and to those who think “what kind of trouble could a 13 year old get into” OBVIOUSLY lived a very sheltered life! my little brother started smoking pot when he was just 8 years old!! i have a friend who was smoking METH at 13, so yes…..I WOULD AND WILL SNOOP!!

  • @AOK4WAY - I kind of feel the same way. I wouldn’t routinely go looking through everything my kids look at on the computer or randomly digging through everything in their rooms, but if they give me a reason to suspect they’re involved in something of which I disapprove, you can bet I would check up on their internet habits & in their rooms. I wouldn’t be sneaky about it, I would tell them up front that I was going to look at (or through) their things/habits. I would tell them that they had one chance to bring me whatever they have hidden or to tell me if I’m going to find something incriminating. If they’re hiding something, it will be worse than if they’re up front with me about it.

  • @kristinabean - I’m so glad for your kids, friend! Kudos to you! But don’t let the world shame you into being less than diligent. The only real shame is to allow even one destroyer anywhere near your kids, and the only way to prevent that is to be 100% diligent, all the time. It isn’t about catching our kids, it’s about catching the people who would harm them or turn them from the good path we want to see them on in life! Peace to you and your house

  • @grannyinboxers - Now THAT’S what I call a good granny! Peace, friend

  • No I wouldn’t do such a thing. As long as I can trust the kid. 

  • @Bushy_Tailed - There is nothing wrong with a 13 year old drinking or smoking? Really?? That seems weird to me, pretty sure when I have kids I don’t want them anywhere near alcohol or cigarettes until they are 18 at least. 

  • When I lived at home, my parents had a fucking KEYLOGGER on my computer. WTF.

  • It depends on the kid.
    if he’s been having problems, and acting different recently, or I think something is up. Maybe. otherwise, no.

  • @AOK4WAY - your daughter needs to get out of your house. then again, maybe you’ve threatened to kill her. ;) lighten up and get fucked.

  • @jealousphotos - Bwa-ha-ha! No, just maim her a little lol, I’d miss toermenting her otherwise. I’m workin’ on lightening up, lost around 20 pounds in the past month, thanks for caring! Bwa-ha-ha again on the get F’d lol. Homey ain’t goin’ there lol.

    Peace

  • probably yes… but if i found something i’d be sure not to mention i found it on his facebook. you have to be sneaky about it. don’t let them know that you are prying into their stuff.

  • No. I would not. Unless I’m given a reason to believe something is going on, I consider it an invasion of privacy. Also, I don’t believe that because a person is a minor, they must instantly submit to unreasonable rule. A person does not become intelligent/responsible/capable the moment they turn 18. If my child is smart enough to know what they’re doing at 15, I’ll treat them like an adult. 

  • no, that’s rude.

  • @AOK4WAY - Even though I completely disagree with you on almost everything you wrote, I really appreciate the fact that you’re funny and kind towards the people that [rudely] disagree with you. :)

  • @Just_For_Shits_And_Giggles - Thank you so much! I needed that today. So glad I checked back before the nightly beatings lol. Peace

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  • No, because my dad has done something similar to me, found something embarrassing, and now I’m very paranoid about my belongings and my personal privacy. I still do things I shouldn’t do, I just make sure he won’t catch me. 

  • @elf2031 - Well that seems like a silly notion to me as well. Drinking and smoking has little to do with maturity.

  • Depends on the type of kid. When I was 13, my mom read my diary, found out I was suicidal, and got me help. Her moment of distrust saved my life. But still, there’s something to be said for respect and privacy. 

  • I wouldn’t unless I was already seriously suspicious that he was doing something really wrong. IF you trust your kid, there’s no reason to do that.

  • It’s not even an issue of if he left it open. I have my kids’ passwords to all accounts they have for anything online, and if I lose them I just ask them to sign on for me or give it to me again.  It’s not a big issue, because my kids know I’m looking out for them, you know, the job parents are supposed to do. I’m glad I have, too, because one of my children was unknowingly putting themself into a position that could have ended up with our family on the news and our child as a victim.  I’m Dad which means I’m responsible for the well being and training of my kids.  

  • No, I remember when I was 14 and my parents going through my stuff.
    It really made me mad and I would never want to make my child feel like they made me feel.

  • Nah, I don’t think a watchful eye needs to be intrusive. 

  • ABSOLUTELY!!! At 13 they have no expectation of privacy. My daughter is not even allowed to login before I check her messages FIRST! I want to protect her but still allow her the recreation and connection with friends and family. I think to do any less to be honest would be slightly irresponsible as a parent. There are a lot of creeps who just wait on sites like Spacebook (hehe) hoping to chat up our kids. I may sound parranoid but I know who she is talking to and who is trying to talk to her. I also check her friends list and other email  accounts. Sorry if i am payin for the service it is by my rules. If she were 17 though I MIGHT lighten up. She can hate me for it but will probably thank me when she becomes a mom!

  • hell yes. I never even got to venture onto the internet until I was 15 or so, but I probably should have been snooped on more often. :P bad girl.

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