March 22, 2011

  • Ideal Size

    I was reading an article where it showed that women tended to think the ideal size for a woman is size 6 (8 in the UK).  Men, on the other hand, thought the ideal size for a woman was size 10 (12 in the UK).  Here is the link:  Link

    In other words, women tended to want to be a full two sizes smaller than men wanted them to be.

    Do you think men prefer skinny women?

                                                                                           

Comments (123)

  • Looking back at my dating past, I’ve been with a surprising amount of skinny women. This caught me by surprise, since I tend to idealize women that have a bit of meat on them.

  • Beats me, tbh. Polls do lie. No way of knowing the truth.

  • well I guess depends on the taste but I have to say no they don’t like really skinny. But, they do like fit and at least some curves to hold on to. :)

  • Proves what men have been saying all along: They prefer girls with more curves…

  • Totally depends on the persons preference. What size do you like best, Dan? =p

  • interesting, I don’t think I would want to be a size 10… right now I’m a size 4-6

  • I don’t believe it.

  • how does the picture of the boobs fit into this?

  • I know I don’t.  I don’t find skinny personally attractive. I don’t wanna see ribs. I need a lady with curves

  • From my personal experience I do remember a few times when I somewhat greedily wanted my gals to pack on a few pounds… But it’s all about what looks most natural and healthy really. Not gaunt and not blubbery. Just normal. Is that too much to ask for?

  • awww one size away from being ideal, in the woman’s eyes that is. although i don’t believe that. women are liars. and men just suck at determining size.

  • Well shit, I’m a size 3…that’s below everybody’s standards lol

  • I prefer women that prefer me.

  • That picture made me slide off my chair.

  • Actions speak louder than words. Men will say they want a fuller figured woman but over and over they seem to pick the thinner ones.

    I guess we can look right at your first commenter, @GodlessLiberal to see this played out.

  • Usually it’s proportions that I find to be the quality of attractiveness. To me it doesn’t matter what size it comes in. I’m not a man though. My personal ideal size is what my body wants it to be. I don’t want to be a certain size if my bones don’t allow it. 

  • I just want to stick my cock into something without it breaking in half.

  • @MangoWOW - Mostly because the girls that have the hips, tits, and asses that we so adore also have stomachs that we do not, thighs that have craters in them and, sometimes, arm fat that hides elbows. I’ve dated all over the spectrum, at this point with more thick girls than not.

  • hm.. size 10 sounds right. I rather prefer someone whos a little thicker and curvier rather than someone who is skinny.

  • @striemmy - So then who DO you want?

  • thats crap. @MangoWOW - agree.

    i think when guys say ‘curves’ they mean a sexy, toned size 1-3. .. maybe the guys taking the survey didnt understand sizes.

  • Im sure they want them to be skinny but not bone skinny. They want to make sure a girl can take care of herself by having some meat on her bones.

  • I think you have your numbers backwards.  The way I read it, men want women to be two sizes larger than women want themselves to be.  According to the article, men want women with curves.  Unless I’m missing something.

  • I think it depends on the guy’s preference.  I do know a few guys that prefer girls with a little meat on them. 

  • Beauty is in the eye of the beholder :) … it really varies per men.

  • I think men prefer what they want to prefer. Some want really skinny, some want normal, and some want size 14s. It depends on the man. You can’t just lump them all in together. Most of all, men should want you happy, and as long as you accept yourself, he should accept you. =)

  • @MangoWOW - A girl with a pornstar body… duh lol. We, not just I, want huge tits and a fat butt and a flat stomach. =)

  • @striemmy - Good luck getting that without plastic included. But to each their own.

  • The guys I’ve dated didn’t care about size. But of course they did like that I had some meat on me. I’m currently trying to get back to a size 4 hehe.

  • I think I read about this study or one like it.  They showed pictures of women and men/women rated their attractiveness so nobody knew the size… something like that.  I’m a size 8/10 but I’m short so I think it also depends on how tall/thick boned you are… I’m teeny-tiny boned so I got a lot of fat.  But I know my “ideal” in guy’s eyes weight and it was not when I was only 88lbs.  It was more around 115/120, which at the time really surprised me.

  • I think the guys dont know whats the difference between the two sizes lol…. idk maybe its just my dad

  • i like myself skinny.  so i stay skinny.  and the boys seem to love it.

  • @MangoWOW - Actually, I see that body type all the time. I often work with models with those measurements. Normal girls could have them too if they weren’t too lazy to get their butts into a gym =). 

  • @Murphy_Rants - same here

    OP:

    It really depends on the person. I usually never look into that. 

  • I don’t think men KNOW what size the women they fantasize wear.  I mean, I hear “I don’t want to see her ribs” but that’s like a size 0 where you can see some ribs — maybe.  You’re not usually going to be able to see a girl’s ribs when she’s a 6.  IDK, I just think that men just know what they like and they don’t really care what the size it.  We women are the ones concerned with what the number on the tag says. :/

  • Different men prefer different things.  People worry too much about preferences.

  • I’m 5’7” and a size 0-2, and I’m not super skinny. I’m average. No way would I look good at size 10.

  • depends on how skinny I think lol

  • They prefer curvaceous women: eg. Kim Kardashian

  • the guys that I’ve known told me that they prefer women, who are smaller than they are, not necessarily skinny, but their body frame overshadows the woman, so that they feel more dominant. they also prefer women, who are shorter than they are, because this guy specifically told me that he loves the way that she looks up at him in a submissive way, although she has no choice but to look up since she is short. they were mostly macho men, but I don’t care, since I like being the petite one while he is the protective security guard I consider myself to be thin and petite but men have told me that they love my curves, so curvy isn’t necessarily a thicker woman either. I’ve had men think that I’m too skinny while others think I’m attractive. I’ve heard a guy say as I walked by; maybe he was drunk lol but he said, “I’d like to split her in half” which is probably a sexual innuendo for dominating in bed because skinnier women are easier to bend and twist in different positions. I’m thin and am mostly attracted to thin men, who are taller than me, so I think whatever type you are, someone will have a preference for it.

  • As a guy I find bone thin women less attractive. & just returning to Xanga after 5 years I’m happy to find all of you here

  • No clue. I never care what men want though and I’d never change my BODY for them. I mean, I really wouldn’t.. that’s just ridiculous. I’m a size 0 and I’m very VERY happy with it. If men don’t find my body shape attractive, then oh well. It’s my body, not theirs :)

  • The UK is awesome.  They have normal-sized women on their TV shows.

    What clothing size is that though?  I vary from a 4 to a 10 depending on the brand and whether it’s a dress, pants, or shorts.

    And honestly I think guys notice size much less than girls.

  • I think today, women want to be a size 0 or 00. Isn’t a size 6 (8 uk) considered fat nowadays? :(

  • I’m 5’8 and a size ten, w/e they say doesnt apply in north america for sure. I would rather be a size 6-8.

  • idc what men prefer as long whoever my man is prefers me, i’ll allow the world to keep spinning.

  • The key is proportion. If you waist size is bigger than your hips or your bust, there is a problem. Fat is not sexy. 140 lbs at 6’4″ is great. 140 lbs at 4’6″ is not great. Slender is preferable, but most men will settle for medium, because slender and available are few and far between. Seems like the slender pretty ones are either taken or so stuck on themselves as to be worthless to be around. I prefer someone confident of themselves, both physically and mentally, self-assured and optimistic. Height, hair color, eye color, bust size, doesn’t matter. In fact, most men prefer smaller busts, they don’t attract as much attention from other men once there is a ring on her finger. I can appreciate catching another guy giving my SO an admiring glance, but it gets a little old to see them leering at the twins…and I hate to see her dress in librarian clothes to cover them up.

  • It’s been my experience that men don’t have any real idea of how big a “size 6″ or a “size 10″ really is.  I believe black men and hispanic men are far more forgiving of “a little meat on them” than white men.  The women you choose for your pictures are almost invariably size 0 or 00 (with artificial boobage).

  • Hot diggity! This made my day!

  • I think it all depends on the girl. I mean, if I was a size 10, I would weigh 150-160 lbs, which would NOT look good on me. But, my boobs would be alot bigger than what they are now. lol. Maybe that’s why like prefer the size 10′s……..Because they usually have bigger boobs? ;)

  • I am living proof that they do not.

    I am actually at the medically ideal weight and size for my frame and height. I don’t even merit a Hello most days.

  • Hmmz… I’m a size 10, and men always commented that I’m just nice while woman always say I’m too fat. So it makes sense after all. 

  • I think it’s all relative.  Skinnier guys would probably prefer skinnier chicks.  But of course, never bone skinny.  Who the heck would want their girlfriends or date to look like a skeleton.  I’m sure of one thing tho, my guy friends/girl friends/family thinks I need to start exercising when I was a size 6.  Just saying… people might not know their sizes…

  • I do!  I’m a size 6, as well :)

  • I think what this means is guys generally don’t understand how women’s sizes run.

  • i can’t say what all guys want but i know the guys i date (that are athletes) are really into girls with some tone.

  • My fiance’s dating history clearly shows a trend toward fuller women (around the size 10 mark). I am the anomaly, being naturally a size 2. He may dig fuller girls, but he loves what he has.

  • the men ive dated dont seem to mind a big girl ;P
    and my boyfriend now doesnt mind either. i am a size 17 or 16/18
    so idk.  a lot of guys i talk about say they dont mind bigger girls, but yeah probably size 12 is most of my friends ideal girl

  • I think men prefer whatever sie is going to make her feel comfortable getting naked.

    But these surveys are useless, because women don’t really care how men want them to be. Women make up an idealistic size to get to and then claim that the men won’t date them unless they reach it. Meanwhile the men just want someone who looks normal and healthy, and somehow not wanting obese women means that the only women they like are stick-skinny.

    And there are even small groups of men out there who DO want obese women.

  • We actually did an experiment like this in my class Seminar on Eating Disorders. We found the same result, that women want to be skinnier than men want them to be. But we also found a couple other interesting correlations. The first was that women thought men wanted them to be skinnier than men actually wanted them to be (okay, not that surprising, but interesting when you get to the next point). The second was that women’s ideal body type was also smaller than they thought men wanted, meaning that they’re not necessarily trying to get skinny to look attractive to guys. I found that fascinating after we did the statistical analysis and saw that our results were statistically significant. Cool beans.

    As for my personal preferences, I prefer a girl with curves. A nice chest, and especially a poppin’ booty, can really get me going. But I’ve also been attracted to women of many body types, so I guess it depends on the woman.

  • I think what happened is that men were shown pictures of hot-looking women of various sizes, and they chose the women who were the curviest.  That is not surprising.  But a hot-looking size 10 is not an average size 10.  Most men, in real life, do not have that many hot women to choose from, so this survey means nothing as far as real life goes.

    I was shown some pictures of a hot-looking size 8, a hot-looking size 12 and a hot-looking size 16.  They were all young and had obviously never had children.  I would be happy to have the body of any of those women, as they all looked way hotter than I do (and I am a size 8). 

  • Super skinny girls are scary. End of story.

  • I love how all the women that are commenting are trying to attack men. Ladies… WE don’t want you to be THAT small. It’s the media that deceives you into thinking that’s the look you want, NOT US! 

  • @striemmy - interesting opinion.so would you mind explaining to me why by boobs almost vanished when i started with the gym???big boobs,big butt,tiny waist,sorry but only models could have it.i think you mean that girls with huge breasts that are fat as well,will have big boobs AND tiny waist if they work out.it’s dna.that bodytype is not that  common in the REAL world.[you know,where 99% of the women are not models]

  • @cassie_and_the_muffins - Your boobs started to vanish when you hit the gym quite likely because like 90% of women that do work out you decided to work out doing general cardio (the bike, the treadmill, the stairmaster) instead of doing exercises targeting specific areas and intended to build musculature underneath the fatty tissue you want to keep and stand out. 

    I didn’t say tiny waist. I said flat stomach. Apparently obesity is rather common in america, genetic or not. So, by your reasoning that means that the ability to become that body type is common in the REAL world if the butterballs would get off of their refrigerator shaped asses. =)

  • her boobs look photoshopped :P

  • @striemmy - the gym won’t do anything for small breasts. and you might get a perky ass from working out, but not a fat one. 

  • I’m so tiny, I’m a size 0. If I were a size 10 I’d be a cow.

  • Well according to my bro and most of his friends, they dig women who are a bit curvy. I myself wish I was thinner, but I will never be super skinny. It’s not in my genes. I will always have thicker thighs, calves, and an ass.

    I think dudes have no idea what sizes really are…the numbered ones.

  • @beebizzle - I concur on the boobs point. The ass assertion is incorrect. Doing squat thrusts will make your butt bigger.

  • @striemmy - doubtful. but after i have this baby i’ll put your theory to test :) on another note, if you fell in love with a girl with small breasts would you want her to get implants to meet your requirements? 

  • i’m between a 10 and 12, but i’d like to be a size 8? then again, i’m also 5’11, so it’s healthy for me to be that size. Whatever is considered “healthy” for height and body frame is fine. i’d hate to be 5’11 and a size 6. i’d look completely unhealthy.

  • @beebizzle - Start now and I hope you’ve been walking several miles daily =). The other way to do it is the long way around which is to get fat and then selectively trim down. 

    At this point in my life I’d say that I wouldn’t make a woman get breast implants. I simply wouldn’t allow my interaction with a woman that doesn’t reach my standards to get that far. I’ve had A and B cup women and found myself unsatisfied so I stopped dating them altogether lol. 

  • You can’t really judge these things by clothing sizes. Someone who’s short and a size ten is a lot different from someone tall and a size 10… proportion comes into play, too… anyway, yes, I think men prefer skinny women. That’s what I’ve witnessed in my experience.

  • @striemmy - walking several miles a day?? HAH. yeah. cause that would do wonders for my pubic pain/back pain. NOT. sounds a bit harsh, but i guess everyone has their preferences. 

  • :/ I clicked on this in class and all the guys behind me thought I was looking for porn or something. Thanks Dan!

  • @beebizzle - It’s meant to strengthen the muscles that will be doing the bulk of the pushing during delivery and easing and shortening birth. 

  • @striemmy - and while that is great, it doesn’t help pubic pain. i’m 99% positive walking SEVERAL MILES a day will only worsen it. and it’s pretty painful. otherwise i’d love to take a stroll. although it still wouldn’t be several miles. 

  • Who cares what guys like? The female body isn’t just an object meant to please men.

  • @striemmy - i’m not from us anyway…where i come from i don’t see that kind of bodytype so often.i do see girls with oportunities,but the body you describe looks ideal to me…i guess most of us will just have to compromise with what god gave them.=) [no i'm not fat,i'm talking about the boob thing].

  • Doesn’t it also determine a woman’s height? A short girl in a size 10 will look HUGE compared to a taller girl in the same size. Sorry, but I’m 5′ and I hate when people look at my size and think I’m too skinny. I look fatter than some girls that are in bigger sizes all because they’re taller.

  • Size does not matter. There is some kind of campaign to make it matter, but it doesn’t. 

  • I think it depends on the person – yeah generic answer. Some guys I know like super skinny girls (size 0, XXS or children’s department) , some think slightly more padded girls are hot (I mean around size 6 or S/M sizes, not larger). I don’t know anyone who is into large girls though. Might be a cultural thing as the people here are definitely smaller than an US 14 and thin is definitely considered ideal here.. I think most men would consider someone like Karissa Shannon to have a great body.

  • Men SAY they like a size 10, but then they start drooling on size 00, double D over in the corner. Or maybe guys lust over skinny ladies and then get with a curvy lady because fat chicks don’t have any self esteem and won’t cheat? (everyone knows skinny ladies are sluts).

  • I think it depends on your size and height.  Size 10 doesn’t seem bad on a taller person, but it will on a shorter person.  I think that overall it has to be proportional.  In US nowadays, women tend to be on the bigger sizes, so perhaps that affects the guy’s preferences too.  I don’t know, this is just a poll, so you won’t know the true reason behind it.

  • Different men like different things.

    Typically speaking… from my own brief dabble into the search for the truth… most men who say they like girls ‘with curves’ ect still point out skinny girls as what they like if given a photo line up. The thing is… they just pick the skinny girls with the small waist/big ass as opposed to the skinny boyish girls.

    Whenever they do studies like this where they just ask for a number… it’s flawed because men don’t USE those numbers for their own pant size and most don’t really understand them.When they do studies like this with pictures… it’s still flawed because they use different women to demonstrate the different weights. So things like, how they carry the weight, ect, can lead the man to choose something that may not be his normal preference.
    If they did this same study with before/after pictures of the same person dropping 2 pants sizes… I’m 100% convinced that the majority of men would choose the thinner, healthier looking version.
    @align___t - from what I can tell men don’t understand women’s clothing size at all. I assume this has something to do with the fact that a lot of women lie about their dress size. So they don’t know if the size 8 saying she’s a 6 is a 6… or if the actual 6 is a 6. ;P

  • what a load of shit. men prefer women who look like barbies. I am currently 38-34-48 and what would be considered obese but i barely have any stomach or back fat (no fat rolls). I love the shape of my body which some men love too but I think I could stand to be a bit skinnier.

  • All the guys I’ve ever been with like skinny women, or at least, they like me, and I’m skinny…not sure which. 

  • This is surprising, and kind of refreshing, but I’m wondering if men’s size concept is really all that acurate. What I’d be interested in doing, is having a line up of the same woman, with the same features, etc., just have her size increased by one, and have about 12 different versions of her (sizes 1-12) and see what woman the guy picks and if the survey information lines up.

  • My significant other is about a size 52 so obviously I don’t and it ain’t her fault she is that large because psyche medications do that too women…they gain weight and lots of it from water retention and various other things… she was a lot thinner before she got sick. he showed me the photos.

  • Well, I’m a skinny girl, and I do get hit on by random strangers occasionally…But I think that’s more because where I live, I’m an ethnic minority.

  • …how much do men know about women’s clothing sizes?  Most of the guys I’m around love the tiny skinny girls.  I’m usually a size 4, and I’m glad my boyfriend likes me that way because there’s no way I’d be healthy if I was really thin.

  • …I have to buy children’s jeans from JCP.  I’m way below “everybody’s” standards.

  • Skinny women rule…  I would take a size 4, 6, or 10.  but the thinnest ones are sexiest to me.

  • hey – that bikini top looks like one of those candy necklace thingies..  HA!

  • According to my sociology class last semester, men, at least in the U.S., prefer women with body types of pre-pubescent children. I hope I never have kids.

  • I’m pretty sure a US6 is a UK10. I’m a UK10 but I’m a size 6 in the US.

    All I know is my boyfriend tells me I have a perfect ass ;P

  • I think it kind of depends on where the men are from… Black/Hispanic men seem to like women a little thicker, European men seem to like their women very thin (particularly Eastern European because that is what they’re used to), and then most Caucasian American men I meet seem to say it just depends… A lot of them say they prefer slender, but they like curves.  Basically, not a stick, but no muffin tops either (which, of course is usually a result of wearing the wrong clothes, but that’s another topic). 

    I know a girl who wears a size zero and gets a LOT of attention from men, but her face isn’t all that attractive… Guys are attracted to her because she’s so tiny, they think it’s adorable, but I also have a friend whose about a size ten with a nice chest, and guys LOVE her.  She also has a very beautiful face, she’s intelligent, artistic, and confident, and while she’s bigger than most women want to be, she still carries her weight pretty well…  so it isn’t just about how big or small someone is…

  • Who cares what men think.  The ideal size is whatever the woman is comfortable with and if we are not comfortable with ourselves how can any man be comfortable with us.

  • Really skinny people aren’t fun to hug. :C

  • Most guys I’ve talked to prefer a girl that’s smaller than them and have a relatively proportionate body.

  • idk. i range from a size 0-2. not on purpose i dont diet i eat A LOT. but i do know my bf doesn’t want me to be ANY smaller. He thinks i’m plenty small. :)

  • Damn it feels good to be ideal  Most guys I know prefer girls to have a little more meat on them.

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  • i think guys want girls with size 10 booties and chests but not puffy tummies and cellulite-ridden thighs.

  •  I know from all my ex’s are attracted to skinny girls, but not TOO skinny. Most of my guy friends say they like a little pudge or flat belly, but not completely flat. So I think 6 is a really ideal size.

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  • I personally want to be about a size 5. I think skinny is beautiful, and I am vey insecure about my body. My boyfriend is in the Army and I’m afraid he’ll come home and dislike the way I look, even though I’ve met/seen some of his past girlfriends and they’ve been thick.

    I personally like women of all shapes and sizes. But I won’t like my body until I’m 115 pounds… everyone has their preference =]

  • Varies from person to person. I would love to lose a little bit of weight, but my man protests vehemently. I am a proper pear and am a bit conscious of my big ass which my man adores. Guys have a different way of looking at women and the only thing I could get from my guy was – “Skinny girls turn me off. A woman should have a little bit of flesh on those bones. We want fuller women as our partners, not skeletons.” And I can understand because I’m the curvier one among my friends and whenever I wear shorts or skirts, I get noticed and complimented more than chicks who have chicken legs.   

  • I am a size 4… but I am not “thin.” I mean, I am not huge, but I have lots of fat!! It’s not meat or, in other words, muscle.

    I really think a shapely, meaty, well endowed size 10 woman is a far more unattainable body shape than a size 4. I’ve been trying to gain muscle and lose fat for a while. 
    I was actually just on the subway, and a beautiful girl stepped in. She was very shapely and tall, BUT probably a size 10 or slightly more. The few guys in sight seemed entranced by her. 

  • Men want to SLEEP with a curvier women because they are more attracted to the curves, however they end up dating skinnier women. I don’t know why but I have actually observed this often!

  • yes, I think size 6 is ideal when shopping for clothes and stuff. Also I’m a size 6 so I’m biased :P

  • I think its probably true. Women I believe truly punish themselves sometimes to
    feel good about themselves. I don’t believe that overall that men are that much so
    being particular about a woman being perfectly slim.

    Patrick

  • Skinny hip/ass bones hurt. That is all. :)

  • Being size 1, clicking that link, and reading the comments made me kind of sad.

  • I don’t think men have any idea what women’s sizes actually are. They’d probably mistake a 4 for an 8. I think they like anything with legs and a vagina.

  • Lol, I don’t think anyone thinks a size 6 is rib skinny to those of you who say that.

  • Being an American with a British boyfriend has given me the chance to buy plenty of clothes from both countries. Sizes are actually 4 apart, not 2. It says it on the tags, and I also know this from the way clothes fit. So, US 0 = UK 4, US 2 = UK 6, and so on.
    Anyway, I’m a US 0, and I get a lot more attention from guys at this size than I did when I was a US 6.  Guys seem to always say they want a woman with meat on her bones, but then they chase after skinny girls. But I’m not maintaining this body for men anyway, I’m doing it for me. 

  • nothing larger than a “c” cup for me, please. too much of a good thing. thing is, I know that for some women, the extra weight can be damaging or hurtful to the back. take care of yourselves, ladies. and just say NO to implants unless you have had a breast removed.

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