May 20, 2011
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Daughter Has Sex With Father
You ever read a love story that just makes you think “Awe?” A man fell in love with his daughter. They reconnected on Myspace after being apart. She was 16. For some odd reason, his family members kept them apart.
He said, “I’m not preying on her, yes I’m sleeping with her but it’s not like I’m abusing her or something.” Here is the link: Link
They are not going to have kids in order to avoid having a “retarded” child.As long as they don’t have kids, is there anything wrong with them having a relationship?
Comments (169)
*gags* omg ewww
…..isn’t this incest?
That’s not right. At all. Sorry.
Oh geez c’mon, that’s disgusting.
I assume he will be in prison soon.
Woah, wait a minute! Something’s not right about this story! Who still uses Myspace?
Jesus Christ. Here it comes.
“EWWW!”"GROSS!”
“OMFG!”
and then
“HOW DARE YOU?!”
“STOP JUDGING!”
“HOW IS IT DIFFERENT FROM GAY PEOPLE?!”
and then
“OMG DAN YOU SHIT STIRRER!”
*sits back and grabs popcorn*
I’M READY!
@Rob_of_the_Sky - *laughs* I always just sit and WAIT for your comment.
Gross. If they met back up when she was 16, i’m sure they started having sex before she was 18, so that’s statutory rape. I’m sure she’ll end up pregnant and then he’ll want to have sex with his granddaughter. This takes ‘daddy issues’ a little too far….
sick
Are we really questioning incest?
Oh wait, there was incest in the Bible, right? Lot and his daughters?
This is completely natural. I see no problem with it at all. Her uncle should join in too.
hot
ummm…. yea, it’s wrong!!! Even if they don’t have kids it’s wrong!!! I’m usually for love but she’s your daughter and he’s your dad… he made you!!! *smh*
@JinnLedet - Will you please stop sharing your comments? This wasn’t even that funny/witty/whateveryouwantedittobe…
is there any asylum?
And now I lost my dinner…
What?
This is absurd! I can’t even imagine that with my OWN father. gross!
Okay after watching the videos I have more to say. The girl was abused her whole life and her family kept her away from her father for good reason. He’s clearly fucking sick in the head and she’s messed up from all the abuse. They both need therapy. She’s all confused and daddy’s just a fucking disgusting child molester. When they made out in the video it made me sick to my stomach. It hurts me when girls are abused and end up like this and no one tries to help them.
sex with a minor will serve you jail time. plus this is incest… and in some states you can be pressed with additional charges. this is so wrong….
I read the article and saw the videos and I have to admit, the dad definitely looks like slime.
@JinnLedet - you troll!
OMG.
Anyway I read that parents and children who have been separated for so long (like from birth), tend to have strong sexual attraction when they meet again.Ask people who work in adoption centers.
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I looked at the link… ew
@AffinityInUnderstanding - I’ll get the Swedish Fish. =)
i think i just threw up in my mouth
I think that I threw up a little bit…
Meh…aren’t shows like that usually ridiculously scripted? It’s all for shock value and ratings.
Sick. Sick. Sick.
I predict they will be the next reality show on A&E.
i mean i guess its half way like masterbation…
the follow up episode she actually thinks she is pregnant and plans on keeping the baby
OMG Dan you know the answer to that!!!! EWWWWWW!!! Going to the link though, I love that sick crap.
I’m not in the mood for incest porn. I woke up from my nap highly aroused. You unroused me. Now arouse me. Come here poppa.
Just even the idea being out there, there are probably people who just read this blog who will not be able to look at their parents for a looooong while.
OH for crapsakes!
lol is there anything wrong with this? Is that even a question? Hell YES there is something very, very wrong with that.
@McScarry - That wasn’t condoned… Just because something is in the Bible doesn’t mean it’s right. It’s an account of God’s people back then and no, they were not perfect. In fact, they were messed up. Just throwing that out there.
Dear Dan,
Incest is best.
Er.
I mean.
This is just wrong.
Michael F. Nyiri, poet, philosopher, fool
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Well, as many people tell me, we can judge morality by what’s natural. And animals commit incest all of the time. Therefore, this is totally awesome.
@baldmike2004 - Incest is the best, put your cousin to the test!
“Discovery: Britney is hysterical when she finds out that her boyfriend/father is cheating on her”
Uh, lol, you know? lol.
@Rob_of_the_Sky - I love your comments.
@Rob_of_the_Sky - Haha! That’s exactly I was thinking.
The most disturbing thing about it is the reality that there exists a large viewing audience in this country which genuinely derives entertainment from junk culture garbage programing like this.
she’ll be more messed up now that she found out her dad/bf cheated on her. reconnected, fell for each other, then betrayed by the man, who she looked forward to rekindling with. typical springer spinoff stuff. sad but whatever:D
This is fake, Im sure. Look at the source… STEVE WILKOS. Almost as believable as the Jerry Springer show… then again, so many uneducated Americans watch that show as if it were true anyway. *Shaking my head*
Some odd reason indeed.
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I’m pretending they aren’t biologically related.
Ewww, how disgusting! And how pathetic, that a TV-show give them such a stage.
@sugar_mama - I don’t think she’s a minor, so that’s kind of a non-issue in this case. But yeah, I’ve heard that incest is illegal in certain states.
@Rob_of_the_Sky - Lol your comment is awesome.
If they started having sex when she was 16…then that is statutory rape. There is something wrong with that. Though I’m not fond of incest and though we did do it as a society way back when (marrying our cousins, nieces, nephews..) generally it’s not a great idea. Not because of the back stab of society but because of the genetic repercussions it can have on the future children. If you don’t believe me, I suggest looking up Carlos II of Spain. I believe his parents were uncle and niece. Or Mad Monarchs.
@phosphorickike - I knoes right? All we need is a jar of mayonnaise and a fist. HOT!
The UK is lower brow the the US, but then again they made us didn’t they?
God I wish I was a jew.
The most fucked-up result of mid-life crisis.
nah…as fucked up as it is. As long as they aren’t having kids, I’m fine with it. They probably don’t feel like father and daughter anyway and society created the institution of family so that’s why we’re all freaked out.
Maybe if their family didn’t keep them apart, this wouldn’t have happened. I heard there was some scientific reason as to why most fathers don’t find their daughters sexually attractive.
i love how you pick the dumbest stories and ask even more dumbass questions to us just to get people interested in your boring blogs.
I’m tripping over the fact she’s sixteen.
Wasn’t there a similar story to this a year or so ago? I think it was a grandma and her grandson or something though. It was pretty weird. It’s too bad they’re finding out when she’s 18 instead of when she was 16 when they could have at least kept them apart and talked sense into her.
What all you people are judging to people in love. This should be excepted by all. We need it to be taught in schools and we need to pass laws to protect these wonderful loving kind people from being descimiated against. And why should they not get married and be allowed to adopt childern. Cum on there just normal people that just love each other.
Its just another form of perversion just like homosexuals its a sin and its wrong no matter how you try to justify it.
Yes it is called incest. That is not right.
uh, yeah, this is incredibly wrong.
I thought Jerry took all the situations like this, I can’t believe he wouldn’t even touch this story.
I believe incest may be against the law in this instance. I think its really gross.Page.
Running low on post-able content, Dan?
LOL
Oh my. I don’t think a parent should ever have a sexual relationship with their child. Is there no one else out there? While we’re on the topic, to some extent I don’t think a parent should have a sexual relationship with their stepchild either.
Her dad cheated on her? Ha!
There is nothing wrong with this; rather, there is EVERYTHING WRONG WITH THIS!!!
Things like this make me kind of hope that Jesus DOES come back tomorrow!
Religion aside, Eww? I mean, the same bloody sperm that made her is gushing through her… *gags and dies*
I don’t get why people are so disgusted by this. As long as they don’t have children, it doesn’t affect anyone else.
Yes it is wrong and illegal if she was 26 when they started having sex. There is a lot of this sick stuff going on in the world today and people who know about it seem to think it is ok so I guess that means there are a lot of sick people in this world.
There are more important issues at work here than incest. If she had led a perfectly normal and non-abusive childhood, this wouldn’t be an issue, but as it is, she didn’t. So that makes me wonder if all this is really consensual on her part – or if she even considers herself worthy of giving consent.
in response to your question and in my opinion, yes I do see something wrong in them having that type of relationship.
If this is true, which I’m really not that shocked. Psychology says kids who are separated from their parents are more likely to fall in love with them later on. It’s like the person who falls in love with their therapist. A therapist fits a role of “absent parent”. It all gets twisted and manipulated and instead of loving them like a father/mother they end up intimately falling for them. The love this woman missed from not having a dad, because she’s been estranged from him got very mixed up. A person may be so obsessed with not being abandoned again, that they are willing to do whatever necessary to keep them around. Including sleep with them. Unfortunately that mix up is very damaging and they say that after being abandoned by their therapist(or father) a client (or daughter) is 100 times more like to end their life.
If she didn’t grow up with him, he’s just another man to her, and he won’t have that connection you have to a child when you raise them. I don’t think I can lay the “ew incest you’re fucked up” on them because they didn’t grow up together and it wasn’t a normal family setting.
Someone needs to get this girl into therapy before it’s too late.
@SerenaDante - You’re absolutely right. She can’t give consent. She’s so afraid of being left again, that she’s completely under his power. Even using the word brainwashed. Since he’s not having her best interest in mind. .
it’s hard for me to believe this is real! if it is they really need help because the daughter is young and her brain is not developed right and she doesn’t really know what she’s doing. as for the father he knows full well what he’s doing and should be sent to jail!
Dude!, that would be like having sex with my yet unborn daughter.
@McScarry - really? I thought he was kind of hot.
This is wrong in every way. There is absolutely nothing about this that is remotely good.
There is something wrong with it if she is 16… That’s illegal, at least where I live, child abuse. And why would you WANT to have sex with your daughter? That is just.. there are no words for what I feel right now. -.- Disgusting, messed up, dark and twisted people.
First of all, she’s only 16. An adult finding a teenager on myspace and meeting up with them and having sex is creepy in and of itself.
And also, kids or no kids, she’s his daughter! That’s incest, one of the few universal taboos, according to my college anthropology class.
Ugh I actually watched this on Steve. There was a second part where they said they would have a baby. And apparently her father was cheating on his daughter. ALL SO GROSS
I’m going to author self-help books.
“How to be appealing to women that aren’t your daughter” and
“Other things have penises too, not just your dad.”
@ShamrockLover - That’s what I was thinking too, but statutory rape ends at age 16 in a lot of states and Canada.
If she’s of consent age in her state, whatever. No laws have been broken. Two sexually mature adults doing what they want to do. Not my problem or worry. If they’re happy, good. People deserve to be happy in this world where so many people try to hard to take it away from you.
The family kept them apart because he was fucking her when she was still 7! Must be true love if nothing can keep them apart?
@EccentricSiren - Not true in the slightest. Perhaps taboo in most cultures, but not universally. There are several tribal cultures where incest is just the way of life, and many, many cultures historically approved of marriages between close relatives. Even the Torah contains rules of what is acceptable in family relations and what isn’t. I’m sorry to say that your college anthropology class is wrong in this instance.
good lord….
A couple of people made the point that this shouldn’t be a big deal if they don’t have children as no one else will be hurt by it. Although I’m usually sympathetic to that kind of argument, here– as was pointed out a distressingly few times– there’s a pretty much unavoidably-coercive backdrop to their relationship. The potential or presence of psychological exploitation here or in other incestuous relationships is the reason that, even with widespread access to effective contraceptives, incest should still be outlawed and condemned. It isn’t hard to come up with a hypothetical pairing (especially if one partner is sterile) in which both family members seem to have entered the relationship consensually and voluntarily, but that’s likely to be the exception rather than the rule– especially if incest were permitted and parents or older siblings could pressure kids from a young age to enter into incestuous relationships.
“Ew, it’s gross!” isn’t a very good defense of the policy of prohibiting incest if someone is prepared to actually argue in favor of permitting it, much the way that just saying “Racism is bad!” isn’t a very good response to white supremacists peddling their bogus arguments. Sad to see so many people who seem to be content with “Ew!” as a response.
perhaps I wouldn’t judge if she wasn’t SIXTEEN!! ew. I’m afraid that will make her prety messed up. How old is he?
yes I have heard love stories that just make me think “aww”
this is definitely not one of them.
This is like soft-core incest over here…
@Rob_of_the_Sky - LMAO
I dont care. Let them do what they want. Everyone does something that isn’t “acceptable” behind closed doors. They just put it out there.
“I’m not preying her, yes I’m sleeping with her…”
Okay that’s a contradiction right there. If you’re not “preying” on her why are you sleeping with your 16 year old daughter??
@Diary_of_a_fatman - That’s exactly what I’m thinking. I’ve never actually seen this show before, but isn’t it actually an offshoot of the Jerry Springer show? I can’t believe how many people here think this is legit.
1. SHE’S NOT SIXTEEN, MORONS.
2. Yes, that’s disgusting. But she’s 18 so it’s no longer any of our business.
3. Egyptian pharaohs did it all the time.
4. Pick up your bible and tell me where ‘all the people in the world’ allegedly came from, without incest.
Anything for a few hundred comments, eh Dan?
Um, I guess not. They aren’t hurting each other or anyone else, and if they don’t have kids, then that’s good.
Um, it’s… weird, but… okay. Consensual and loving. That’s all I could really ask from a sexual relationship. So… congratulations to them on finding their true loves in this life?
I actually wouldn’t have a problem with this if she was over the age of 18. But she’s not, and he probably had sex with her when she was younger too.
@Frankenchrist - Agreed. This fool has been doing it for years, and people eat it up.
@AffinityInUnderstanding - M&Ms? *offers*
@Rob_of_the_Sky - THIS IS THE REAL QUESTION HERE!
No, the daughter is underage.
She’s too young for the stability and experience to responsibly and freely make responsible romantic decisions. It is should be wrong for an older person, especially a relative, to take advantage of her immaturity.
@Celestial_Teapot - No. She isn’t.
@escapist767 - Yes. She is 18.
Pretty sickening. That’s all I’ll say.
@DJ_GiNSU - Why should 18 be the hard cut-off ponit?
I think for especially for this case, there is a natural, almost coercive influence from an older parental figure. At least morally, she should be older to make a freeer and more informed decision.
@JandJinJapan - I know. It’d be a different case entirely fi they were better looking people.
The sickening aspect of this “relationship” has nothing to do with their looks, Celestial_Teapot….
@JandJinJapan - =), but wouldn’t it help!?
I bet Adam and Eve were both steaming hot. By contrast, here, we have here Mr. Skinhead and his comely daughter.
That is digusting. I wish this stupid post would be pretty much deleted. You shouldn’t even have to ask that question, gross.
Dude all I can say is that is frickin sick.. Whats with our society today? All I can say is I hope this is STAGED.. i hope its a fake but still.. its sick? Why would you even have to ask the question? No offense.. but you should probably take this stupid post down
How biblical of them.
@Celestial_Teapot - You’re exactly right. Unfortunately, there’s no legal method to enforces this type of morality between consenting adults. There are only laws that protect the rights of minors, for the system to make moral decisions on their behalf so a court would need to prove that the father violated his daughter while she was underage, which may be difficult if she doesn’t want to cooperate. I’m all for improving the legal system to somehow outlaw this type of thing. But the limits in the current system can’t be declared null and void based on our individual perceptions of right and wrong. It kind of undermines the idea of a free nation. So while we find it disgusting and reprehensible, we have to tolerate anomolies like this within our legal system the same way we expect Catholics to be tolerant of gay marriage. Unless a fair and conprehensive law can be concocted, all we can really do is attack their morals.
@AmeliaHart - Ditto!
it’s wrong, regardless
Must be some Freudian explanation to that….
Nope, not one bit, Celestial_Teapot. Have a blessed day…
Not really, thisiswhereItellyoueverything….
Uhm. Yes, there is something wrong with it.
I’m pretty sure you were being sarcastic in asking, ¿verdad?
nobody on here actually does irony, do they?
poor @JinnLedet..
I don’t care to read the extra details, so I’ll just make a general comment. While it’s certainly not my thing, I really don’t care who is sleeping with whom as long as they are consenting adults and not having unwanted babies or spreading diseases.
I watched this episode. I literally wanted to throw up. & the man, or so-called man, didn’t see ONE thing wrong with it. Ewww. :/
@Ancient_Scribe -
And yet, unless I’m mistaken, you believe that the human race was started with exactly one
woman and one man, created by a god whom you worship. Where do you think the rest of us came from, then? Thus, incest was in your god’s design/plan, was it not? Oh, and it would have happened all over again after Noah and the flood.
In some cultures, The father of the daughter have sex with them to show that they are the most important person in their life. but let me ask you this; if you grow up knowing its accepted, can you really believe its unacceptable for others to have culture different from your own? its a stretch i know, but in the long run, we’re all viral parasites of this rock, in the end, whether you live poor or rich, you die the same way.
I just ate. C’mon!!
incest… is it illegal?
if it is, does it matter if the girl is minor?
i just don’t think it’s right…
O_________O
this is not okay.
where on earth do you find these stories….wow…lol
@DJ_GiNSU - I’m not going to pretend to be familiar with the laws in their particular jurisdiction (I’m not even sure if they’re in the US– didn’t want to watch the video as I assumed I’d already lost a couple of IQ points just from reading an article published by a xenophobic rag like the Daily Mail and didn’t want to cause irreparable brain damage), but laws against incest aren’t exactly likely to come up against a lot of resistance. A flat prohibition against sexual relationships between family members isn’t really that hard to word. Draw up the range of limitations you want– for example, if you want to bar relations between first cousins– and you’re most of the way there. Enforcement isn’t as easy, obviously, but that’s kind of unavoidable.
I don’t really think this a question of “individual perceptions of right and wrong,” at least not in the sense that the presence of a few individual opinions in favor of permitting incest should matter at all in terms of whether or not society ought to regulate this kind of conduct. We aren’t talking about conduct that just offends some people’s sensibilities the way homosexuality does. Allowing incest– even if we say both parties must be of the legal age of consent– would expose way too many children to possible coercive pressure from parents, older siblings, uncles, aunts, grandparents, and all the step- versions of these titles (people in positions of intimate trust) that would be virtually impossible to root out and police. If you get in a car accident and want to sue the other driver for negligent driving, the law already struggles to determine whether or not the other driver demonstrated “reasonable” care in the circumstance, which might be no more than a few seconds of conduct. Trying to figure out if a father’s advances on his daughter, for example, were conducted in a permissible way over the course of 16, 17, or 18 years would be impossible.
Granted, a flat ban would undoubtedly prohibit a tiny minority of people from entering into consensual, non-coercive relationships that are nothing more than distasteful to the majority. But whereas a flat ban essentially removes a cupful of water from a sea of potential partners, permitting incest exposes children to the possibility of a kind of abuse that may well have the effect of trading the whole sea for just that cup. That kind of emotional-crippling is obviously the extreme example, but society very much has an objective interest in protecting the emotional freedom of its most defenseless members. Multiple people on here have approached this debate with a kind of cultural relativism that I think misses the point– the “Who are we to judge them?” attitude is dangerous in this context. “Who we are” is irrelevant. At the point at which innocent people stand to be victimized by their predatory blood relations, the judgment has to be in favor of protecting the innocent party. “Who we are” I guess is anyone who recognizes that he or she wouldn’t have wanted to be exploited in the privacy of our childhood family homes by the people on whom we depended, which is to say, so close to all of us that the objections of the one-in-a-billion exception frankly don’t matter.
Having said all that in disagreement, I respect that you’re thinking about this as an objective proposition, and you’re right to point out that the moral history and background on this is hazier than people think.
I feel like throwing up.
i hope its a hoax
Hat tip to Dan.
@VampireOfSeduction - This is, of course, assuming that one takes Scripture absolutely literally. If so, then it would seem yes, but taking all Scripture at absolute face-value leads to many a pitfall and difficulty, as you have pointed out. But going along with this line of thinking, one could suggest that perhaps the idea of father/daughter was a cultural taboo that came later, particularly when our bodies became so corrupt after successive generations of sin that it was the cause of defects in the offspring (as we saw the unfortunate results of in the line of Egyptian kings who inbred themselves out of existence!). It could be that in the beginning, when Adam and Eve were yet quite whole in body (though after the Fall their souls were not) even if they were then subject to aging, albeit slowly since Adam lived for centuries, it was such that two closely related people could produce offspring that was not subject to the defects we worry about today. Likewise one could point out that in the beginning what we refer to as incest would have been necessary given the limited number of people, but once the human race had grown to sufficient size it was no longer necessary to wed one’s sibling, son or daughter.
However it may or may not have been in the very beginning of human history regarding what we refer to today as incest, it is quite clear that from ancient days such a thing was looked upon as considerably immoral, which are the teachings we ought to bear in mind as opposed to hypothetical “maybes” deduced from one’s personal interpretation. Such a way of proceeding could lead a person just about anywhere; you line of reasoning, for example, could easily justify slavery, fratricide, and many other things we know today to be completely wrong yet seemed to be “the way of things” near the beginning of our history.
I hope something in here proved helpful; God bless! You response was an unexpected but not unwelcome one!
Ugh.
i saw that episode on Steve Wilkos. guess what though…she got pregnant…didn’t watch the episode after that to see what actually happened when the guy found out.
As long as they don’t have kids, is there anything wrong with them having a relationship? I think the age of accountability in Massachusetts is 15. Not sure though, or what stipulations the laws make. If you ask if there is something wrong with Steve Wilcos, I will say that I believed that when his show first came on.
While my gut reaction is “ew,” a point was made a while ago to me that made sense (uncomfortable thought it was.)
With the debate on gay marriage, a lot of people say that as long as it is two consenting adults, it should be allowed.
That being said, my issue with this is not that it is incest, but that the girl is 16. (And I think she may have some daddy issues. The situation even without the relationship does not sound healthy.)
Now,..I’ve heard EVERYTHING……..
And you even have to QUESTION that this is WRONG?????????
It sure as hell is not RIGHT!!
Nastyyyyy.
It’s a big false,God will punish them.
Gives a new meaning to the phrase “Who’s your daddy?!”
I don’t think this is right.. maybe it’s mostly the culture I was brought up in so think it’s so wrong, no excuses. There are cultures in Africa where family members marry and produce children. I think it is wrong based on the psychological aspects.. to me, it is abuse. A person, I feel, should not continue with a relationship if they find out something like this, that the woman is their daughter. It’s not appropriate.
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@JandJinJapan - http://listverse.com/2008/05/26/top-6-incestuous-relationships-in-the-bible/
Having an ignorant opinion isn’t really supported by just saying that someone is incorrect because you believe they’re incorrect. I’ve read the Bible. I know what’s in it.
WAHT???
This isn’t an “awe” moment… this is a “WTF” moment 0.o….
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@omgroxie - Just think you’re totally right.
its so wrong
I think I’ve just been disgusted.
Apparently you’ve not read it deeply enough nor do you know it very well, thisisnotaboutyou, because if you had, this little list of yours would never have been posted as “proof” of incest in the Bible. For one, Tamar and Amnon was rape, a crime punishable by death in Ancient Israel and one that was rightfully carried out by Amnon’s and Tamar’s brother, Absalom. For two, what Lot’s daughters did to him was essentially rape, as well, the children of Lot’s daughters being viewed as the children of incest as documented by Moses in the Five Books of the Law. Thirdly, its entirely possible that there were more than one “Aran” in Ur of the Chaldees when Terah, Nahor, and Abraham were living there. Fourth, with regards to Cain, whom else was he to marry? Fifthly, Abraham and Sarah were not full blood brother and sister (neither were Amnon, Absalom, and Tamar, but the fact that Amnon raped his sister makes this point pretty much irrelevant), something allowed by law in the USA (and other Western and/or “civilized” nations) as recently as a century ago. Finally, the Israelites were told not to marry Egyptians due to their rampant Idolatry. As far as Father-Daughter incest and the Bible, I noticed that you haven’t posted one that fits this category, probably because there aren’t any involving consensual sex, such as this case and article by TheologiansCafe.
I read the link. I know it says they verified the story before bringing it on the air, but I can’t help but think that stories like this are made up for people to get attention and $$$. If it’s not made up, it’s sick. And sad. I agree that the girl must have had some serious issues.
First, that’s disgusting. Second, you can tell this is totally fake — it sounds scripted as hell and her “father” looks not that much older than her. Third, is that Steve, Jerry Springer’s bodyguard? Since when did he get his own show?!
SICK!
@MomGoneMadd - Then it must be the case that I absolutely do not understand the laws of attraction.
@JinnLedet - How’d you know she has an uncle?! D:
Ew.
Yes there is something wrong with them havin relationship, blood, daa! lol but no kids, i wonder, nothing wrong with it though, don’t think they would be retard
OMG this shit will give me nightmares
Can’t tell if trolling or just…what is this, I don’t even…
disgusting and wrong. plain and simple.
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