May 25, 2011

  • The Ideal Man

    I was talking to a friend on xanga and I mentioned that my wife has said she likes me tall and larger because she always feels smaller in my presence. 

    The woman mentioned that it is nice to have a guy that is larger for safety and security.  It is interesting because my wife has also mentioned the safety and security issue with me.

    I am not sure why I never really gave this much thought but I wonder how many women factor in security when picking a man.

    Ladies, is security and safety a factor in picking a man?

                                                                                               

Comments (117)

  • I’m just glad I’m not a little dude.  

  • Security and safety is definitely a factor but not the most important aspect.

  • it’s definitely a bonus

  • I don’t really think about it when picking a guy, but I definitely like it if it’s there! :)

  • Yep… I feel very safe with my husband, because he’s taller / stronger / bigger than I am. I like it … makes me feel tiny and protected (yeah, I know that sounds rather sexist but it’s true.) It was an added perk to marrying the man… I always feel petite now, and I like it that way.

  • yes. if a bullet comes flying toward me, the guy better be big enough to block it. likewise, if I’m benching, he better be strong enough to spot me 

  • Oh, definitely. Physically and emotionally.

  • Of course.  Why else would I have a man?

  • I like very tall but it’s not security or safety… I like to think that I can try and handle my own the best I could. 

  • My husband is 5′ 8″.  Funny thing is I’ve never been attracted to a man over 5’10″. Shorter guys just have a different personality. I grew up with tall, big framed men. Bigger guys tend to be very laid back people. 

    Safety and security is definitely important to me. Since I married Jeff, I’ve been around guys that are very skilled armed or unarmed. Size has nothing to do with security and safety. That only comes with training.  

  • Someone tall and larger doesn’t nescessary means they can fight all the bad people and keep you safe. It’s the feeling of that person who can be there for you when you are in need and not making you feel worry about him because he can take care of himself and able to take care of you too.   

  • security and safety cough cough money wait wut i keed i keed

  • Overall, i’m attracted to taller men who seem to have that ‘protection’ factor.  What’s weird is i married a guy who is 5’8″ and only weighs a few pounds more than me.  It does bother me sometimes because i don’t feel like he’s my ‘protector.’  I even remember the night i met him he was sitting at a table and when he stood up for the first time, i thought “wow, he’s short.”  But it obviously wasn’t a deal breaker for me because i think it’s way too superficial of a reason not to be with someone.  It’s not like he can help it.

  • Absolutely. But it’s not the main factor

  • Yes! One of the things I love about Nicholas is that he’s literally a foot taller than I am and a big/tough guy. I always feel safe and secure with him and that’s very important to me. I’ve dated total wimps before and it’s just not appealing – I like to feel taken care of :)

  • This is where I lie to myself and say “It’s really only projecting yourself as protective and assertive and a bit alpha that matters more than actual physical attributes.”

    but eh, who am I kidding. That’s secondary, not primary.

  • I’m attracted to guys who are taller than me and have some muscle. The taller the better :]

  • I guess it kind of matters, I wouldn’t date one of those wimpy dudes wearing girl’s skinny jeans.

  • if a guy can’t kick my ass then i don’t want to date him.

  • sure. Physically, emotionally, even spiritually- I want a guy who is stronger than I am.

  • Meh. It’s not something I think about. I’m pretty strong, so I can defend myself if need be.

  • Ladies could like a taller man for spooning purposes. My friend told me that’s why she likes taller men.

  • No. I already have a pit bull and a stun gun and awesome biceps.

  • @bakersdozen2 - I concur. Size is important in unarmed conflicts but there are too many ways to overcome that difference. I’ve been taught that lesson way too many times by my smaller-framed friends in unarmed combat classes. 

  • I dig bigger guys too. not necessary fat, but in the high 5-feet range (I can’t go higher because I’m a mere 4′ 11 1/2″) and kind of a football player build. or actually, just not thin.

  • It hasn’t been in the past for me but now that I’ve been wrapped up in a big guy’s arms I’d have to say that I prefer it :P

    But it wouldn’t flat out stop me from dating someone.

  • umm… my friend says she likes a guy that fits perfectly with her body.. she does not like tall guys.. in fact most of the female friends i have say the same thing. =) makes me feel good about my average height!

  • I’m right at 5’8″ so with 4 inch stilettos I’m 6′, I definitely can’t date a guy that’s 5′. He has to be 5’10″ on up, I’m not giving up my heels. Security and safety, sure you want to feel them, but it’s not a deciding factor.

  • It’s nice to feel safe and enveloped by a larger man, not gonna lie. But it’s not a factor in who I choose (at least not consciously); just an added bonus.

  • Uh, yeah, feeling safe with someone is always nice! I never really considered it in terms of build, though. I’d have no problem dating someone short(er than myself).

  • People should be just thankful they’re not dwarfs. I like the idea of picking a television set and not a man.  I dream of a world where we’re not judged by a difference in few inches.  But since we live in a physical world we have to make the best out of it… 

  • Hey you. That’s right Dan, (if that is your real name). I’m talking to you. How much barbecue do you paint on your ribs? What gasoline do you use? What place makes your favorite burgers? How does it make you feel to hold the ketchup knowing a lot of hands have touched it? Do you like your fries with ketchup or melted cheese? What brand of syrup do you use for your pancakes. Do you still kiss your wife first thing in the morning despite bad breath and eye bugars? When you’re driving your truck, how does it make you feel when you see smoke polluting the air? Where do you keep your gun?

  • are you tall as yao ming?

    it depends because I’m attracted to the thin body frame of jude law and he is an exception because he’s handsome, but I’m also attracted to the more muscular jensen ackles. the ex-wrestler, the rock, is also hot. muscular guys is more of a sexual thing than protector.

  • It don’t matter how tall you are, a bullet will go through your spleen just as easy in a firefight. Size does not security make. Look at Canada.

  • No, men that are too much bigger than me scare me.  I don’t like someone being able to exert enough force to cause me pain and I can’t fight them off.  I understand that need to be “protected” but tall guys make me feel like a child.  I can take care of myself and it’s not worth it to me to risk a man harming me again.  

  • Strength is important, but not because of the security. I wouldn’t like to be stronger than a guy I date, I’d feel too butch.
    I dated a guy the same height as me(maybe even a little shorter…), and a few way taller than me. 
    Height doesn’t matter that much to me. 

  • Don’t understand this preference for stronger guys.

    I don’t have a preference for weaker or stronger females.

    Female preferences confuse the shit out of me.

  • Safety and security is a factor in picking a man. That was one thing that first attracted me to my boyfriend, as far as physicality goes–tall, large hands (better to punch other guys with), and a thicker build. However, an ideal boyfriend would have to be satisfy more important factors than that.

  • well, there goes MY luck! (a short n skinny guy here).

  • There are not that many instances where I fear and feel the need for protection for size to factor in the kind of man I’m attracted too.  If an instance would arise, I would appreciate any protection a man could give me and be grateful and thankful for it.  There are some shorter men among my family and friends and I know from experience they are quite capable of adequate protection.  I also never felt the need to feel smaller or more petite around a man.   I suppose a need for protection has something to do with how our parents treated us and maybe even the size of our fathers.  My father was a short man, and my parents were not over protective.  I have always been attracted by personality first.

  • One of the fundamental needs of a woman is security, so I do think that having a man around who can help provide that would be a plus.

  • of course it’s a factor! it’s not the most important one, but I take it into consideration.

  • I never feel safer than when I’m with my boyfriend.  I think it’s important…

  • You know what it is? It’s because women have to walk the world always subconsciously afraid of being harmed or assaulted by some man. We are taught it, this thought is cultivated in our minds and unfortunately it is sometimes true. I’m pretty sure that the majority of men don’t walk down a street past another man or a group of men and wonder if they shouldn’t have because they might be raped, whereas a woman might very well might be afraid of this with good reason.  Of course girls like to have a big, strong man that makes them feel safe and makes them feel like he’d protect them. This is why I think that if the world was coming to an end one of the biggest fights would be women throwing themselves at the mercy of any man that makes them feel safe and protected…more than likely a man that is bigger than most…because it’s human nature. The ladies would be fighting to get under the protective wing of this sort of man for themselves and any children they might have.  Women would give up a lot and often do now just to feel safe.

  • I’ve always preferred tall men. Security and safety is just an added bonus.

  • my husband is on the shorter side but he’s strong enough to make me feel secure. :) it’s important, but not the most important. i don’t think dude has to be huge haha. 

  • I like tall/big guys. My husband is 6 ft. and about 180 lb. I love his build/physique. But I wouldn’t have (at least, I hope so!) let height make a decision for me if I had fallen in love with a guy who was shorter.

  • Yes, feeling secure and protected is a big factor, but it’s not solely related to size. My dad is only 5’9″, but I always felt like he would and could protect me. Part of it is an attitude of self-confidence and self-sufficiency, which are some of the most basic components of masculinity.

    My husband is tall and muscular (though not as bulked up as the guy in the picture), and feeling secure with him is a big part of what initially attracted me to him.

    And then there is another side to the story- being with a big, strong man makes us feel feminine, which is an innate desire in women. It answers a need to be ourselves that most women don’t even know that they have.

  • Yeah definitely. I also have to trust him and his judgment. My height (5′ 8″ … and for REAL) or taller. Most guys are heavier, but I would disqualify a super skinny guy. 

  • Well, my boyfriend is taller than me, and I’m pretty tall to begin with, so I guess maybe you are onto something.

  • @JoeytheGenie - He better also be wearing kevlar.  Bricks, cement and sheet metal are no barrier to anything but the smallest ammo.

  • Yeah def. I have only dated guys that can protect me. Im a small girl. As much as I would like to think I can protect myself, in alot of situations,  I just cant. I need someone that loves me and that doesnt want me to die or get hurt to be there for me and to protect me. 

  • Yes, and I belive it’s an instinctual survival thing going back to the caveman.  And, men’s bodies, which have more muscle mass and on larger than women’s on average, have evolved to suit the “protective male” model.   

    A man who is very thin versus me, doesn’t “feel” right to me personally. Although there are many thin men who are attracted to larger/plus size women and vice versa. So it’s obviously not universal.  But yeah, It feels great to be hugged/embraced/walking next to a man that is bigger.   The words “look up to,” however connote something more that I don’t agree with: Intellectually I prefer being equal (or above, though I will hide that from a man who is intellectually ”below” me because I know they don’t like that feeling any more than I do!)  

    ps:  I know this is “off topic,” but what a sweet thing for your wife to say! I keep learning from men like you with good marriages how important it is to massage husband’s egos!  In many ways it’s really just saying “I appreciate you and all you are to me.” Looking back, I didn’t do anywear near enough.

  • Yep. It’s not a dealbreaker if he’s on the smaller side, but I am more immediately attracted to taller, bigger guys. Lucky for me, I’m 4’10″, so that’s not hard to find! I’m also attracted to slightly overweight guys. Not huge, but just enough to be bigger than me and still super cuddly!  :)

  • Honestly, that was not something I even thought about back when I was dating. It was a different era, for one thing. Women felt strong and empowered in the 70s, we weren’t looking for some big, musclebound guy to protect us. That said, I do feel safe with my husband. He’s quick-thinking, logical, smart and reasonably strong. And his words and actions do not get himself or others into situations where we need to be rescued. That’s more my area of expertise.

  • Nope. I can take care of myself. If he’s wimpy and hides behind me or runs then he best keep running.

  • It’s not really something I think about.. then again, I’m teeny tiny so just about everyone is huge to me lol.

  • so basically insecure women who can’t take care of themselves want a big guy protecting them in order to compensate for their own inadequacies? What kind of age are we living in? I should be a cave man who goes out and hunts animals and fights other men for their wives.

  • When I met my bf he was probably as thin as me or thinner in some places… and he’s only like 2 inches or so taller. I wouldn’t say I need a tall, strong dude but being a woman taller than most, I am constantly uncomfortable, dwarfing most average people (okay it’s not that drastic but I’m jealous of all the regular women who I’m usually taller than and I’m taller than a lot of dudes….) and sticking out wherever i go no doubt.
    Then…. he says “I’m gonna beef up and become like a big monster” and I’m like nooooooooooooo because sometimes that’s just not attractive. And short guys can be attractive. Basically size shouldn’t matter but some women don’t want to feel like barbarians compared to the men they are with and most men don’t want to be towered over by their women…….xD
    I can most definitely take care of myself (though I’ll admit there are certain things I need help with but that’s different..) and security doesn’t really influence me at all in these matters…..

  • For most women, yes it is. It’s an evolutionary thing. Women had a better chance to survive, and their progeny did too, if they were with a big. strong man. Therefore, it is biologically ingrained in them to look for someone who can protect them against threats to themselves and to the family.

  • Yup. I need to feel safe and secure when i am with him. I really just do not want to feel like if we were walking in a dark alley and we get mugged, that i would have to be the bravest and the strongest. In short, he needs to be my security blanket.

  • Yep. I’ve walked down the street at night with big muscly people and sort of… short, squishy, can’t run very fast people… I mean I guess I could use them as a meat shield but I’d rather someone who could kick ass. I can protect myself to a point, but strength is not my strong point and strength (besides being hot) comes with a sense of security. 

  • It definitely comes to mind. My boyfriend is bigger than me but not taller and that’s fine. But there is something about laying in the arms of a man that is bigger than you that makes you feel safe and protected. 

  • I like guys who are kinda short (I’m 5’2 myself), but still thicker than I am (I’m 116lbs). That way I feel “secure” or whatever, but we don’t have to break our necks trying to kiss each other.

  • I don’t think it’s something I outright thought about, but I do enjoy the fact that my man is over a foot taller than, and is much stronger/heavier than I am.  It does make me feel safe.

  • I would never ever date a guy shorter than me.

  • I’m looking more for security than safety, but both do matters =) 

  • @JoeytheGenie - lol xD. does that mean if i am small i am awesome at dodging bullets? :D

  • No.  I know I can handle myself so the safety/security stuff doesn’t really factor in.  I would rather get along with someone than feel like they can protect me.

  • Crap!  I knew I was forgetting something.

  • Safety and security are DEFINITELY a factor! I once dated a guy who was shorter than I am (and I’m only 5’5″), but wasn’t attracted to him when I realized how short he was. I gave it a shot anyway, but there was literally nothing compatible between us, so it didn’t go beyond the first date. If there had been something there, the fact that he was shorter would’ve been an issue for me. I’d get over it if the guy was right, but it’s still something I look for normally. I don’t need someone fighting my battles for me or anything, but it’s nice to know that my guy could if he needed to. ;)

  • @ExposedWrists - This is BS. Guys have to worry about getting their asses kicked walking around other guys. That’s a fear that women cannot share at all… And considering how guys getting their asses kicked is more likely than a women getting raped, it’s a more valid fear.

  • Yes, on many levels.  Not just physically but he needs to be emotionally, mentally, and financially stable and sound and well, safe.  

  • yeahh taller yes buff no thanks!!

  • i just dont like having to bend down my neck to kiss a guy or walking next to him feeling like im engulfing him..

  • I never really thought about it, but yes, I love that I feel safe with my man. And I remember hating that my ex seemed so fragile. So I think you’re on to something… ;)

  • Definitely. I’m a tough girl myself, but having a guy whose bigger and tougher than I am is definitely important! :D

  • The size of a man does not necessarily correspond to his willingness or ability either to provide security or protection or to identify when such would be appropriate.  It’s probably more common to see little guys who are more constitutionally aggressive, and, conversely the big lumbering duffus who is perfectly useless in regard to providing security.

  • Not really. I’m hard as fuck.

  • duh… what do you think you we put on this earth for…making babies and providing us food? Who on earth is gonna protect us when were pushing out the babies and making dinner??? O boy! Men need to go to school to realize what they are here for.

  • I think it depends on the person. If the girl in question grew up feeling secure and safe then she might not intentionally  look for that in a man because she’s had it all her life and just assumes she’ll continue to have it when she marries. If the girl grew up never feeling safe or secure then that might be the major qualification in a man for her.
    Me? I’m not sure. I’ve been attracted to short, skinny, blond men, but married a tall, buff, and dark haired man. He’s 14 inches taller than I am. :)

  • Yes. It goes beyond the physical though. If my sweetheart didn’t make me feel safe and secure emotionally, like if he were intimidating, there’s no way I’d love him like I do.

  • @Blind_Paraplegic - Okay….first I agree with your point that men can be more physically threatened by other men, but you missed my point in my saying that women do often choose a man because he’s bigger than she is and makes her feel physically safe in the world, as well as a whole host of other reasons also.

    So according to you women are less menaced than men? 

    Well even if we aren’t getting threatened with rape every other day, would you not say that when a woman is walking down the street and a seemingly harmless and friendly seeming man walking by that then turns on a dime and leers at her like she is just a warm hole to pierce is not also being menaced in some way?  He may never make a move and she may never have the physical threat of violence placed in her path, but she certain won’t feel very good about about that man or possibly men in general with such an encounter.  She probably won’t feel safe even if she thinks the guy wouldn’t assault her. 

    There are plenty of ways that a man can break down a woman that don’t have to involve physical violence.

    And even better still…this sort of social, sexual leering is more acceptable public behaviour than one man fighting another because society at large acts like men just can’t help but act that way.  Does any man out there that indiscreetly eye humps a woman ever think that the look of disgust on her face if she might be giving if he’s caught doing it might be coming more from deeply placed fear than just thinking he’s a creep?  Does anyone care that being confronted with this sort of treatment day in and day out, from possibly multiple men of any age can really scare some women?  Naturally women are drawn to a man she thinks will protect her, even if his protection isn’t coming from physical strength as much as it might come from mental strength. 

    I myself don’t have such fears about men in general…but I certain know a whole lot of women that do and have expressed this.

    I couldn’t tell you how many women I’ve heard commenting on their man, especially if he is bigger and stronger than she is, always say how safe she feels because he is such a big, strong man.  Even if a man is a coward a woman might still choose to be with him if he is a big, strong man simply because of the possibilities that could come with a man his size.

    I’m not really trying to argue with you…I just found it sort of weird and offensive that you would come on the attack instead of debate this issue with respect.  I don’t even know you…so I don’t get that sort of behaviour. Sorry if something I said ruffled your feathers the wrong direction.

       

  • @bakersdozen2 - Agree, I bet women would definitely feel safe and secure if their husband is Bruce Lee, Short but the strongest.

  • Tall and strong is a definite plus

    But that’s why even short guys have big boy hands :) so that they hold and protect our small hands. 

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  • I’ve never considered that before, but it does make sense. It’s good that he’d be there to defend you if you needed him.

  • @ExposedWrists - Yes. I believe women are less menaced by men. I also believe they are less harmed by men.

    And I believe it to be a clear fact.

    That’s all that I’m going to say about your reply cuz it’s steering far away from what this post is about.

  • I don’t really factor security and safety into what I want from a man. A man protective over you can become overprotective of you. I can secure myself :)

  • Maybe, I don’t know. I generally like taller guys, but taller just means taller than me, which isn’t a great feat because I’m only 5’3. Perhaps, subconsciously.

  • Women here say it’s not important but they would consider it? Contradictory? As for the question, no. Not one person can tackle everyone they come in contact with….and then what happens when that strong man loses? I’m not going to dump a guy because he might not be able to tackle some people.

  • No.

    Why is it that women are seen as helpless? The “ideal” man is always taller than the woman. Even in ads everywhere, the fathers are strong and protective-looking. 
    If you have a tall, “large,” yet FAT man who is lazy and can’t fight, you’re better off being alone. Or if you’re with a tall, skinny guy. 

  • Height and build don’t necessarily mean that the guy can defend you when danger presents itself. I mean, look at Jackie Chan; he’s a small man of I think 5 feet something, but he can still karate chop someone’s ass into the next millennium.

    I like tall and muscled men because I’m petite (5’3) and it makes me feel really feminine when I’m next to such a big guy. And it’s also nice if he can bench press me or lift me without breaking a sweat.

  • I’ve dated guys that I’m pretty sure I could win a physical fight with. It never really bothered me. I’m currently dating a guy who is not very big or tall, but he can hold his own. I have to admit it’s kind of nice. 

  • The only ideal man is a man of God who is circumcised. 

  • Yes. I mean… I want my guy to be able to protect me if the need arises. I’m just saying, I’m not trying to throw down with some dude because my man is a twig. Thankfully, I don’t have that problem. My bf is a big guy. :)

  • what really pisses me off is the short ckicks who are with the over 6footers.  those men belong to us tall girls…biznatches!

  • Not even something I took into consideration. I’m fairly good at self defense unless someone pulls out a gun but the you’re pretty much screwed no matter how big you are. My gf is pretty tough though for all that she’s three inches shorter than me :3

    -Scruffy

  • I’m done dating skinny men. Big and taller guys doesn’t mean they are strong, but rather “look” strong and manly enough to kick someones ass. Bluffer thingy lol. 

  • Not physical security. I can take care of myself in that manner. Yet emotional security, definitely.

  • Absolutely! This is not a mandatory thing for me, but it comes pretty close. My boyfriend comes in a hair above 6 feet tall and weighs about as much as I do, but his former career as a grunt in the military, as well as his two “intimidating tattoos” make me feel a lot safer. …that’s another weird thing…I feel a little bit safer (that may sound weird) with someone who has tattoos and is big, compared to the same man with no tattoos… Must be the movie theatre that’s done that to me. :)

  • I LOVE the picture!  I have always loved muscle, but I don’t go out searching for a man based on that.  My husband of 24 years was just an inch taller and of decent strength.  A male friend (not bigger, but better muscled and trained in martial arts) after that said, “Who do I have to beat up?” when I told him a story about being kicked when I was younger and I realized that I had never felt that level of protection, security, whatever you want to call it.  The two romantic interests I’ve had since have both been bigger and of similar attitudes and I feel much better with any of them, but I think part of it is their attutude toward protecting women.  At 5’8″, I love being wrapped up in their big arms, head above mine.

  • It is. It’s not so much “oh I can’t defend myself, I need a protector” it’s more the feeling of security of being wrapped up in someone’s arms. It’s odd and hard to explain for me. Though I can say the lack of a good explanation may be due to the wine.

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