October 30, 2011
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Should the Government Pay For College?
If you think about it, the government paid money to bailout banks. They pay to fight wars in other countries.
Your tax dollars go to pay people who are unemployed.
How about an investment in our future?
Some have suggested that the government forgive student loans.
Should the U.S. government pay for everyone to go to college?
Comments (89)
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I don’t know how the heck anyone’s gonna clean up this mess, to be honest with you
The government does, to a degree. I think the system we have in place now works. Of course, I’m in a very comfortable position in college and about to graduate. I would say that.
Abso-fuckin’-lutely.
But I’m going to college next fall… so I guess I’m biased.
No. Americans should be kept ill-educated or forced to have thousands and thousands of dollars of life-long debt if they have the nerve to go to college. Whether a country succeeds or not is up to that country. Education is affordable elsewhere. It’s not in the U.S. If that’s the choice Americans make, then they will get exactly what they wished for.
yes yes yes
I don’t know. Education causes political instability in some respect–though I’m not entirely sure how just that they bark about it, especially when the government doesn’t monitor degrees. It’s either be uneducated or get dumbed down.
they should
The government does not have the money for such a venture, sadly. Especially with both aisles of Congress pushing for additional budget cuts over the next 10 years.
However, if someone does not act to remove the threat of student loans from the rising generation, the economy will never recover. Historically, Americans fresh out of college are the most frivolous with their expenditures, which is one of the many things that power the U.S. domestic economy. Now, with every young man and woman paying off student loans instead, our economy has lost a major source of influx.
I think so. But that would probably require us to raise taxes to cover the costs and you know how much people hate raising taxes to help other people out. I would be all for it though. They may have to make rules, say that you have to keep a certain GPA or higher though so you don’t get people just going to college to party for free.
Yes. The government should also pay for health care and regulate businesses more thoroughly. Social democracy ftw!
College is done right, as is.
Government already subsidizes tuition, if you think you can do better you can forgo the government and attend a private college.
If anything government should better be funding high school to make it more vocation oriented. Manufacturing jobs go unfilled because we don’t have people with the skill any more, the great machinists are baby boomers or in retirement. What would be more effective, a government program that gives funding to students doing skilled work and labor, or full tuition for someone to study a major that has no career application beyond college?
federal loan debt is forgiven after 20 years, which was just reduced from the prior 25 year limit. College debt is only stretched out so far if you make bad decisions. Don’t go to a school that costs 20k a year or more for liberal arts unless you have a guaranteed position out of college. Don’t party when you’re in school, instead go get a job. Too many people act like college is just a good time, when really its supposed to be about working hard and applying your skills that you have learned. There is always a reason why some succeed and others fail, and people can’t blame all of their problems on their environment (including other people) “Where there is a will, there is a way”.
yes, pretty much all other countries do! I don’t know why America makes it extremely hard to go to college unless you’re extremely rich (pay it off) or an extremely poor minority (endless scholarships) if you’re white middle class you’re pretty much going to drown in debt for awhile.
I think the government should pay for college. Not because they pay for wars and such, but because if theyre serious about educating the population and keeping jobs in America instead of outsourcing, they’ll make college available for everyone instead of only the rich people.
@CreativeUndertow - I’m about a year out of college, make just above poverty-level wages, and have had no help from my family whatsoever. In college I bought a new car, and at this point have almost half of my debt repaid. Then again, I have been working since I was 15, and know the value of money, unlike most American youth.
only if the government wants more educated professionals in their general population.
@starcrossedloversdivine - Oh. That’s it. On minimum wage, which is pretty much all you can earn before you get a college degree, you can afford a new car and … Harvard? Any plans for graduate school at a high-quality university? I paid for my own education too, and I started working younger than you did, and I still maintain that a society that makes it impossible for its young people to get a top-notch education is not a top-notch society. And if that’s the choice, then I just don’t want to hear complaints about it later.
@CreativeUndertow - You should read comments more than once if you’re going to skim and assume haha. Poverty level is about 20k/year. I graduated college. Before I went to college, I was making more than min wage… waitressing, the ultimate form of capitalism. I went to an average school for undergrad, now I’m in graduate school at another average school. You don’t have to go to great schools to end up with a great job, and I’m not saying great as in paying well, but as in possibility of opportunity in the future. The whole point of my reply to you is that most people don’t know how to manage their money. If going to school is a priority in one’s life, and said person has knowledge of the cost of tuition, then shouldn’t they make it a priority to sacrifice a little early in life rather than be at the bottom of a river with cement shoes after they graduate?
@starcrossedloversdivine - I did read the comment. You added additional information later. Not really reasonable to expect me to be responsible for what you will fill in after the fact. I agree most people do not value education. But I guess my point is it’s a society that doesn’t value education and I think it’s getting worse, so that tendency will get worse too. Why should people value it when it’s not valued overall? I don’t think the plan ahead thing covers it all. The reality is that much of education is out of reach for people it shouldn’t be out of reach for, and the question is whether society values education enough to make it a priority. I don’t think it does.
One prisoner = the cost of one teacher. a bullet costs anywhere from 7 ~ 25 cents depending on the caliber and state you’re in. costs more to upkeep a prisoner than it does to pay for the teacher. Also, my state is very generous with pell/cal grants for attending school. It’s not the price of the school itself.. it’s the cost of living, commuting, housing that gets ya. OH! the books.
And uh… there’s a thing called 1099T that your school gives you at the beginning of every year for the tuition you paid. So you get reimbursed… as tax write offs. *cougH*
while they’re at it…also welfare money for pets for those who don’t want a human baby but want a litter of adorable animals
The local tribe pays all the costs for people who attend college with casino revenues. Maybe the government should set up more casinos to help pay for everyone to go to college.
As a broke college student, I say they bloody well should. In ten years I’ll say the complete opposite. That’s life.
YES. Education should be free. Knowledge is the greatest asset anyone can achieve and while there are many programs available for people to receive funding for college it should be nationally funded all around. There’s no doubt that far too much money is wasted when it could go to making a better future for all. Call it an investment with a guaranteed payoff.
I still think it is beyond ridiculous that we pay professional athletes millions a year to play silly games but our teachers are among if not the most underpaid profession in existence. There is a serious priority problem here.
That would be absolutely wonderful minus the fact that it would probably make college just as crappy as high school.
While the idea sounds great, I don’t think it would actually work…and like someone said tuition does become a tax write off. I hate the idea of forgiving student loans. You signed a contract! So grow a pair, admit you made a stupid mistake by accepting the loan terms and pay your debt.
Yes.
In Hungary, the government paid for my first college degree and 2 years of my second one. Of course I also paid 36% income taxes and my company paid 7% education fees.
No. The government shouldn’t have been bailing out companies… They shouldn’t be paying off other people’s loans either. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Though I will say higher education needs reform so the costs are not so high.
I think that while children are below the adult age, schools can’t make money off of them. But after 18 and officially becoming adults, all colleges and Universities have a right to make them their prime target. Get them while they are hot and fresh with the debt burning process.. Its a free for all and they are doing a great capitalistic job on our adult children, if you figure right off the bat, before they even start life, they already owe around 50,000 dollars.
Greetings earthlings.
You are all pathetic and need to die. A pact is being signed, this will no longer be your planet, humans are a disgrace, animals with low functioning brains. I really do hope an alien race wipes us out, I am ashamed of my own species.
Look, it’s not that difficult, the solution is death, how many times do I have to tell you you got to kill off the weak. Education should be free, and if you fail, severe punishment. Also, why do we allow one man to make billions? Only on this stupid planet do we waste money by allowing one man to hoard all that gold in a bank. I understand the rich have more expenses, the rich are a great burden on the economy, they take all the money and waste it on frivolous things that don’t really help the economy. If you want to make giant statues why not give all the profits to one oil company? Why allow competition, it only hurts the economy by splitting customers into pieces. You people are so dumb. People need security, people need to be more certain about the future, but… we must kill off the bad people, so that we can trust the good, I think we need social reformation before we get into money. What is the purpose of giving out grante to people who just want to smoke weed all he time. We cannot trust our own citizens, and this is hurting us a lot more than Obamanomics
Yes, I am a lazy son of a bitch, but it college was free you can bet your ass I would get on that train, and if I knew my education meant something, you can bet you ding dong I would study my ass off.
We need a new system. There’s too much government money in the system as it is, and as in any case where the consumers are disassociated from the actual costs the price of education has spiraled out of control.
We now have the technology and infrastructure to provide quality, foundational education online, inexpensively, to anyone willing and able to do the work and to skip the overrated large campus “college experience.” And it is in the best interest of all the citizenry of the United States to invest in this.
BTW, back in the 1960′s when I wanted to work my way through college, I discovered that my government was totally willing to fund it only IF I was willing to become a professional war fighter. I took advantage of that to the extent my conscience would allow. And now I wonder if that has changed very much.
College is expensive right out of secondary school, sure. My opinion is that the gov’t should only pay for students who cannot afford to do so on their own, that meet academic performance standards, and then and only then, the cost of tuition and books, possibly the cost of public transit. GI bill is another discussion, but currently I like the way it’s been reformed (you can now transfer benefits to a spouse or dependent since a hell of a lot of armed forces don’t use it anyway).
The govornment should pay for everything and nobody should have to work.
NO WAY!!!! On the other hand, if the recipient can’t pass their classes, or they quit, how about if they pay the government back….
How about we focus on K-12 first?
I didn’t even read the post. The answer is No.
How about forgiving parent loans for their children’s college education? Then we can retire and open up more jobs for all those educated kids so they can repay their loans.
The gov’t should not pay for everyone to go to college. They shouldn’t be paying for the other items you mentioned, either. Defense should be spent on defense, not offense. No business deserves a tax-dollar bailout.
Our economy could never support paying for everyone to go to college who wants to. Nations that do not produce products see their economies fall and crumble. That’s why China is seeing a growth, because of all the production they do. While I do not agree with slave wages, in order for our economy to remain balanced and stable we need to be producing something. If everyone goes to college, no one will want to produce. Those that do produce, would have wasted thousands upon thousands each for a degree they do not use.
Everyone should have the right to a basic education. We should not punish the children of lazy parents, as they will only become lazy parents themselves if they do not have the opportunity to better themselves.
Opportunity. It seems that word has been lost from our language. America used to be called the “land of opportunity.” It seems now, it’s the land of “gimme gimme.”
Yep
No, but tuition shouldn’t be as expensive as it is.
yes.
because Cuba does and so should we!
college shouldn’t cost so much anyways which probably has something to do with the government and politics.
I go to school for free and get paid, thank you California!
I would very much like it if it did.
If it does, it should refund all the payments that those who actually worked to PAY their debts have made.
Let’s stop admissions quotas, and free rides based on these quotas, and recognize those who academically deserve to be in college by giving THEM funds.
If we want to catch up with the EU, sure.
I think Europe has a better educational system than we do as far as higher education is concerned. There it is all paid for by the government in most countries ( I know in Norway it definetly is). There the students are tested every four or so years to determine if they are going to continue their education or if its time for them to find a job and as a result only the best students and the studentsthat actually want to be there end up in university and that is the way it should be and its better for everybody that way. And it is also mandatory for everybody to serve in their armed forces. We have and waste to much money on students who don’t want to be in college…and too many that simply do not belong there. It would be better for them and our society at large if these students went to work and became income creators and instead of sucking money out of the the system. There is nothing wrong with finding a job and going to work in you are not fit for college. We tend to look down upon people who go to work and shoud not do so. College is expensive and somebody needs to create the taxincome in order to sustain it economically. Which our society not very good at doing.There should be more options open to people. But that is just my opinion.
And I think your first statement about the unemployed is erroneous. A lot of unemployed peopleworked for an awful lot of years before they lost their jobs. Most people that know wothat are currently on unemployment worked hard at their jobs before misfortune struck them and paid into the unemployment system for years when they were working and are simply getting their own money back. And they do not deserve the lousy treatment a lot of them are getting by people who are fortunate enough to still be working and we should not place the blame for our economic troubles squarely on their shoulders like people who have a job tend to do. Unemployed people get used as “scapegoats” all too often and there is no excuse for that. We are suppose to be a country based Judeo-Christian values of mercy and compassion and loving our nextdoor neighbor and we should start acting like such. And stop placing our economic woes on tyhose who are unemployed. Just my opinion. Hope I did not ramble too much and I hope I make sense.And I hope you understand me.
It’s not the government, it’s the college cost of tuition and fees that needs to go down. Every year they jack up the prices for everything: books, parking decals, room and board, and all the other little small things…
I don’t want to pay for things just to have them stay the same, you know? If I pay 1000 more for food, the quality needs to increase, if I pay more for tuition, then the quality of classes and professor teaching needs to improve…etc…
Hell no! People barely graduate high school with a high school education these days. I’ve taken several classes at a community college the last several years and some of those people do not deserve a college education when they aren’t working hard enough for their grades. Free college education would equate more 22-years-old living at home not being responsible.
College education is certainly affordable and doable in the United States, you might just have to work your ass off to get it. I know a lot of people who did just that, both with and without student loans. However, I do think some federal colleges that allow free tuition would be awesome. Ones that (like countries in Europe) you have to pass tests to get in and maintain a certain grade point average to stay in. Something available for those that don’t have rich parents and aren’t quite savvy enough to get a full ride scholarship elsewhere.
Let’s be frankly honest here, not every American is smart enough to have and take advantage of a college education, so what’s the point?
@Tallman - I would agree with the government paying for college if we had a system (like some European countries) where it was proven that the students truly wanted an education and not just four more years of no responsibilities.
I personally think college should be free. It’s ridiculous that we pay them to learn how to do jobs that need to be done! How does that make sense? I know in parts of Europe schooling is free – or close to it – and I don’t know why we don’t do that. Here in Canada, people are always complaining about a lack of nurses and doctors, etc…. Well, maybe if you didn’t make people go broke trying to get their PHDs, there’d be more of them.
@Bobby - I dunno, I chose a private college because their financial aid package made it actually a lot cheaper than what the state school was offering me. Due to my parents’ income, I don’t get government help no matter where I am enrolled.
But I agree with you in that we should encourage more options for a vocational education. There are so many students in academia who really don’t deserve to be / shouldn’t be there.
@chaosandtranquility - I agree with you 100%! It has always pissed me off that athletes and actors make more than educators and doctors. :
to a certain extent, but with restrictions of course. otherwise i’d just stay in college for the next 9 years and get every degree i’ve ever wanted!!
@AllySantra - but how do you train doctors without PAYING for that training? People aren’t going to train and teach for nothing. Their salaries have to come from somewhere.
@Mangonese - you still have to pay to go to university in Europe. Admittedly, it’s nowhere near as expensive as America, but it’s not free.
@chaosandtranquility - The problem is that I do not pay athletes anything because I don’t go to games, buy merchandise, or purchase any games on television. I do pay teachers though. And while I think teachers should make more, it is probably better to compare politicians’ pay to teachers, rather than athletes who aren’t paid out of taxes.
What for? College kids would piss it all away studying useless subjects like ethnic studies or English. When they get out into the real world and find out no one is going to hand them a job like the government handed them out a free education, they’ll still find some way or someone to blame their woes on.
It helps the student gain character to have to work and pay for a big part of their college education. We as a government do not have the funds to pay for ALL college students, nor will it benefit all students to go on to “college”. Therefore, I believe the government should make loans available, controlling the interest rate, but must require certain substantiations for every year of paid loan. Post High School education is NOT the required social contract of the American people for an educated citizenry.
@written_conversations - No doubt, but in general, the EU has better schooling statistics than the US. I meant, if we want our students’ education levels to rise, something’s gotta be done. I think in general, our public school system is a joke.
@Agent_Eric - Yep, because everyone should do jobs that include “meaningful” work. Culture, the preservation of higher thinking, and philosophical studies are just for freeloaders and wussies.
On principle, I’m against it because it’s yet another step toward our government being outright communist. I won’t get into why I’m against that here, but note that I’m strongly against it. I’m also against it on practicality because there’s just no way that the national budget can work that in. We’re running a gigantic deficit already, and that would be billions more a year. I don’t think raising taxes would cover it, either; that would just hurt the already struggling economy, with the possible result of reducing total revenue, besides making it harder for all the businesses and individuals to get by.
But seriously, college costs are ridiculous. I’d be going to college right now if it weren’t for the fact that I can’t afford it. I have a decent GPA, and the GI Bill would pay for some, but I still don’t have enough money to pay for both school and survival. Besides that, I already have to work two jobs to make enough to live, and I don’t think I could afford to take the time for classes and school work. I’m not even trying to go to an ivy league school, just the closest state university. I don’t know how people are supposed to get ahead, ever. I can see why the idea of paid education would appeal to just about everyone, and I don’t think I could turn it down if I had a chance at it, despite my reservations, simply because I have to think about my family first.
Isn’t the quality of education low enough in this country? ‘Nuff said.
I think it should provide financial aid and provide free college education in the form of Community Colleges and the State Public Colleges.
I happen to know of a certain Malaysian girl who graduated from one of the best universities in the country with no debt. She said it barely cost anything. I don’t remember how much it was, but I do know I was paying much more just to go to community college. This wasn’t due to scholarships; the tuition was just that low. So yeah, other countries seem to have some sort of system figured out. Sigh, maybe we’ll figure something out at some point but probably not soon enough to do me any good.
No, only the rich should go to college.
They do in your Europe especially in Norway… you get tested every coupe of years and if you pass you continue…if you don’t it is time to join the real world. You seperate the real students from those who are just taking up time, space and money more efficiently that way.
I had never thought about it like this, but the way you pose your questions, I would actually say yes.
I dont think the Government should pay for college. This sounds kinda harsh but think about it for a moment the current financial aid system is fine its just the degrees people choose to get and the overpriced schools they chose that make them fail. I can get a great education form a 4,000 a year school and make it further with a degree in something relevant and marketable rather than going to a 30,000 a year school just for a name and follow some idealistic fad. You choose your destiny and your will and ability to push yourself should be the deciding factor. Education is a valuable thing and I agree it should be easily accessible but not the the point it becomes handed to a person who doesn’t take it seriously and wastes the times and resources that could have been spent on someone who could become a productive member of society.
It’s also a matter of being able to manage your money and yourself. I’m tired of seeing these college kids cry poverty when they have the most recent IPod, I pad and are paying twice the market rate rent…. Manage yourself, manage your money, and everything else will be fine.
Absolutely NOT!!!
@Tallman - Other people have mentioned this as well, and I know this is pretty much how it works in a lot of countries. At first glance, that seems like a decent idea, but there are some things I really don’t like about it.
First of all, that’s an awful lot of responsibility and pressure to put on a child. If my childhood were the single deciding factor of my whole life, I’d be in a lot of trouble. I’m pretty sure I speak for a lot of people in this regard.
Secondly, along the same lines, that gives adults who struggled or weren’t mature as children (imagine that) no chance to ever make something of their lives more than scraping by on wage labor.
Thirdly, there’s a major ethical problem with the taxes of all paying for a benefit that only some are allowed to reap. Why should the poor guy who’s already struggling have to pay for someone who’s more successful to start with to get even further ahead?
I have qualms about college.
First of all, I don’t believe in giving unemployed people massive amounts of income for extended periods of time.
I don’t believe in giving illegal immigrants any services whatsoever for any amount of time. Not with MY money.
I know many people whose student loans are either forgiven or seriously put off for like, decades.
Colleges and universities are an industry now, a business. And I’m sick of it because they each one has a sort of monopoly, because we depend on them so much to give us what we want- a degree, a title, and even if we consider transferring schools, it’s often so hard to have most or even some of our credits transfer, so it’s a risk anyway. They are corrupt and I hate them and I think it would just get worse if the government got involved. So many jobs require some type of certification and/or degree these days. It would just get worse if college were even more available to everyone.
I think what needs to change is our core curriculum in primary and secondary schooling. A high school diploma needs to be made more valuable and by doing so kids need to be much more effectively educated, and also more encouraged to pursue vocational schooling in the process to help them (if they so choose) pursue specific careers.
I don’t need more of my tax money confiscated, period.
@grammarboy - That is true but I think they are a bit easier on children then what I depicted. I might be wrong but I think they do give second and third chances over a period of time. But eventuaklly they got to make a decision on the student is going to be allowed to continue in education or go to work…And think this is beneficial to society at large because for every student you need some one to go to work….somebody has to a learned and somebody hsas to go to work to pay the bills. I think my parents generation (The WWII generation) had a better on this then the following have had. Eduction is great but you need workers too.
Let’s think it through.
(1) If we’re advocating this to stimulate the current market, then do we remove these subsidies in the future if the market is doing better? If so, how do families know how much to save for college? (2) If someone who is stupid and/or lazy wants to go to an expensive college is this reasonable? Must society be saddled with paying for every education no matter how serious the candidates are? (3) If entrepreneur Eddie wants to learn from the school of hard knocks by starting up his own business, rather than going to college, should we consider this an alternative form of education? (4) If someone starts up a School of Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll or some whacky religious cult sets up its study programme, should society have to fund these degree programmes? Or do we have some form of accreditation — if so who gets to decide what is valid and what isn’t? Can they support cosmetology classes but reject piercing or tattooing classes? (5) What about grad school and additional certifications? Should all of these be free? (6) How do we control college costs so they don’t endlessly spiral? Wouldn’t costs go up when students demanded direct pay for school jobs that currently come with tuition or room and board remission? At the same time, greater demand would be fueling price increases across the board. (7) How do we figure out how much to pay for each education? What’s to prevent my community college from claiming that it should be reimbursed the same as Harvard? (8) How do we prevent college from being dumbed down into High School part II? A lot of students work really hard in high school to get an educational scholarship — if they had guaranteed free tuition, would many just coast through high school — thus making the high school environment less academic? (9) How would this affect student athletes and others getting non-academic scholarships? Would they be lazier in high school? (10) Instead of providing some educational incentives, what additional incentives would we provide people to get people to join the military? How much would this raise their costs? (11) How would this affect minorities? If we have been giving poor minority students preference to poor white students, then how would leveling this playing field affect affirmative action? So what’s the solution?
Obviously government should create an extremely complex system to apply for the free money — say maybe a 2000 page application form. Preference would be given to minority students who would only have to fill out the short version. For others it would be more difficult to fill out the form than raise their own money. Thus we would continue to build character, discourage laziness, etc. Since the process would be so incredibly difficult it wouldn’t really change much of anything, but those who love gobbledygook and paperwork could go to school for “free”.
The government gets money to pay for programs three ways. Monetary expansion (which creates inflation), direct or indirect taxation (which creates deadweight loss, and is often regressive), or borrowing (which slows GDP growth at excessive levels and is an intergenerational welfare program). It is immoral for a government to punish or confiscate the money or property of one for the benefit of another. Also, it is unclear if money redistributed to a college student is money better spent than if the money remained in the productive economy. Especially if the redistributed money is used to pay for a degree in something ridiculous. I asked one of my failing students why he was in college. His response was, “To avoid going to work.” Enough said.
@Mangonese - you don’t have to tell that to me. just ask all the unemployed newly grads sitting on six figure student load debts who can’t find jobs. people can study whatever the hell they want. just don’t blame anyone when you get what you ask for.
That would be great. I mean, I think you should have to maintain a certain gpa or something but…seriously. I’m in so much debt just from trying to get an education. It’s crazy.
Absolutely not. Didn’t anybody in the government learn from the subprime mortgage crisis? Bailouts discourage financial responsibility and encourage recklessness.
First, forgiving current student debt would (1) punish the students who have paid back their loans but aren’t getting a bailout, and (2) encourage students to borrow irresponsibly by showing them that they can borrow tons of money without repaying it (which reduces the perceived long-term costs of borrowing). Second, how would we pay for such a huge bailout? That unprecedented number of government-approved defaults would bankrupt the private financial institutions involved (which means thousands of jobs lost) and deepen our national debt by another trillion dollars.
Now Obama is proposing a plan to lower monthly payments and shorten the time it takes for the government to forgive a loan. That means fewer students would probably have to pay back their loans in full, which would further discourage responsible financial decisions and encourage recklessness. How about the government gets its fingers out of the economy and stops distorting it? The government’s well-intended policies almost always create incentives that result in bad unintended consequences.
@grammarboy - How much are college fees in the USA? Ours in the UK just got raised to £9,000 a semester. I paid £3000ish a semester, and I could only afford to do so with government loans. Isn’t there a system like that in the USA? Wouldn’t that system work? Also just to say.. your government is about as far away from communism as the earth is from Mars. You can take pictures, study it, try to understand it, but to go there, to the red planet, is impossible. (Ignore all news stories about going to Mars while reading this analogy).
As for myself, I believe the government should be responsible for educating the population, to a certain extent. My suggest would be those with the grades should have fees waivered, whereas those who do not achieve have to pay. You see to many people with C’s and D’s at A-level (I don’t know the US equivilant I am afraid) going to university, just to party or stave off adult responsibility… It is pointless and a deficit to the economy. Better their minds are turned to things they enjoy and can be successful at, during school.
yes. yes. yes.
I’m currently a college student, and I watched my boyfriend go through college. & honestly, and truly are life would be so much better if we did not have college debt. Right now, we struggle to eat, both work full time jobs, sometimes two jobs, and i go to college, in hopes of one day, only working one, awesome full time job. The Government should most definitely pay for our college, because some people just can’t do it, even when they work their butt off to achieve it.
Throw all the people that want my money in a cage and let them fight to the death (as a college student in America that includes approximately all big business). Winner can be overlord of America.
Great article! It seems it’s time college athletes should be paid. The NCAA has held down this racket for a long time. If they don’t change, more than $2,000 per year, they’re going to fall. The debate over at TC Huddle got me thinking about this. I wondered what other people were saying and found your opinion.
Thanks for the post! Enjoyed it. Here’s the article that led me here if you’re curious: http://www.tchuddle.com/2011/07/pay-the-kid-the-earned-dollars-of-college-athletes/
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@chaosandtranquility -At least he is honest!
@LetsTripTheLightFantastic - You don’t understand economics. It isn’t free. People pay for it. Well, some people pay for it. Like me. I pay for it. I also paid for college. It comes at a cost, and a lot of that is someone else whom you don’t know and can’t thank. In fact, honestly, I don’t know anyone who is in favor of the government spending oodles and oodles of money on college who at the same time talks about other people paying for college; they just talk about it being free, universal, or subsidized.
Why I started by saying that you don’t understand economics is because you compare apples to oranges in where money goes. The government *forces* people to pay money together for elected officials’ discretionary funds (in effect), but the sports entertainment industry is all free-will … people watch sports on TV (making commercial time more valuable, which makes the sportscast bring in greater revenue for the network… which trickles down from the huge owners and other entities), they go to games, they buy the paraphernalia, they link to the sports’ site, etc. What I mean to say is this: the sports industry is big because it is what we want. Whether it should be that way, I think we’d agree that it is totally warped to put so much emphasis on it. But the sports industry caters to those who want it, and they do it well, and they reap the benefits of the system. On the other hand, the government is comprised of thousands of workers trying to provide services to protect ownership rights (local and global threats in consideration); but it has gotten way bigger than that. So, when ask whether the government should pay for something, first we must understand what the purpose of the government is. To move money where people SHOULD be spending, or where YOU will be spending? Or to put it another way, is the government’s purpose to provide things for some people by coercing people who have more assets?
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@NachDemGeist - too long, did not read
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