December 4, 2011
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Trusting Rapists and Atheists
A study was done with a group of people described as “liberal” and “less-religious” and they found that people were more likely to describe a man that was untrustworthy as being a “rapist” or an “Atheist.”
This was compared to how they felt about a Christian or a Muslim. Here is the link: Link
So lets see who we trust the most and be honest with your answer.
Imagine that you died and you had to pick which person would raise your child.
1. Christian
2. Muslim
3. Gay
4. Atheist
Which person would you least trust to raise your child?
Comments (73)
The person I’d least trust?
… too much thinking when I’m really drunk, Dan.
AND… FIRST!
The Gay!
oops I thought that said most trust…
The thing is, none of those things say how they are as people.
I’ve known wonderful people over the years from all those categories. I had family members lined up for that when my daughter was little. It was more important to me that she be with people who loved her, would nurture her, and would keep her connected to her family.
@thepsychoticraccoon - <— yeah, what she said.
@Cestovatelka - I have a good Xanga friend with a fondness for goats. Perhaps he’d be up to the task. =P
@Celestial_Teapot - You’re an ass
lol
Gay rapist atheists.
@ShimmerBodyCream - me too. I was going to say a gay atheist, preferably. (trust most)
@thepsychoticraccoon - Agreed
There’s not enough information… it depends on the individual. There are rapists who are Atheists, Muslim, Christian, and Gay. There are also really good people in all four groups. I disagree with this… it’s not about the beliefs of the person, it’s about the actual person. Personally, I would pick a friend I’ve known for a very long time, he and his family are atheists but I would trust them completely with a child. I would also make sure that my Grandparents (all Christians) would be involved in my child’s life. I couldn’t just pick an entire group to call “untrustworthy.”
Except rapists. I wouldn’t leave my kid to one of those no matter what he professes to believe.
I don’t know. I have friends in every one of those categories, and they are good people. Who would you trust the least?
A gay atheist. I’d assume that person’s values would be the closest to mine.
Definitely the Christian..they don’t make sense…
An atheist that rapes is the “rapiest” of them all.
I don’t trust fatties around my food. I don’t trust middle aged men with nondescript white vans with my kids. I don’t trust women with driving or tasks such as plumbing, electrical, or landscaping work (and sometimes driving). I don’t trust men with tasks like makeup and hairstyling unless they’re gay (my wardrobe stylist is gay). I don’t trust blacks,whites,mexicans, native americans or asians (male or female)with my personal belongings or money. That sum it up for you?
Tie between #1 or #2. Not that I distrust religious people in general, but I wouldn’t want my kid to be raised by someone who identifies themselves firstly (or solely) by their religion, because that indicates that they’re likely fairly fanatical about their belief systems, and I’m not at all okay with my kid hanging around with such a person. I’m a confirmed agnostic and I’d like my kid to be raised without the “fear of God” or anything like that.
I choose not to answer because they all are good groups of people.
@TouchDefiles - Just relax…..
Clearly a lot of people have missed the point of his post.
I’d have to answer, the gay.
For the purpose of this post: Christian.
There you go again, asking us questtions to study our minds.But, I would not put people in boxes, life is not really about who we are as a people in regards to our race, religion or sexual tendencies, but our make up as a person.
Your questions may as well be – “Imagine that you died and you had to pick which person would raise your child.
1. The person with big ears
2. The person with small ears
3. The person with blue eyes
4. The person with brown eyes
Which person would you least trust to raise your child?”
The lables you included go just as far towards answering the questions about the person’s morals and lifestyle that I would need answered to make decisions about my children’s futures.
I have quite unintentionally accomplished my own study of my geographic community’s overall ability to judge the trustworthiness of individuals and of groups. Generally, they’re quite inept because they tend to hear, recycle and heed their own gossip!
Although it isn’t completely apparent from the responses to your post today, Dan; the Xanga community is better educated, more literate and generally better at judging the trustworthiness of individual bloggers, and too intelligent to even attempt to judge the trustworthiness of groups.
I choose the Muslim Rapist to give the best answer to this survey.
as much as i would like to say “Those are labels and mean nothing”, I can’t help but think.. “I would trust none of those, except for the christians..”
probably because I know more christians than the others.. i don’t have friends who are muslim, gay, or atheists.. hm actually i do, but not as many as christians.. so it’s only natural that I thought of them first. That doesn’t mean that the muslim/gay/atheists are bad parents or whatever, its just for me the number of christians that I know are way more than the others..
Of course I would want my children to receive a Christian upbringing. But I’d rather have them raised by literate, knowledge-loving atheists than by butt ignorant “Christians” who believe that the earth is 6000 years old, that God took six, 24 hours days to create the universe, and that everyone but them is going to hell.
I put Ron Paul supporters in that same category of rejects.
What was your question again?
my first thought was muslim but I worked for a muslim dr. one time in the 1990′s and I really liked him as a person and he said most muslims are like him but the radical muslims give their religion a bad name (he might have called them the fundamental? I forgot the name he used)
his kids would come down the hall and say Ba ba. it was so cute and he was a good dad and a pediatrician.
Honestly, in order from least to most, the atheist, the Muslim, then the Christian. I’d also be willing to trust a Jew. Granted, there’s also individual variation, so there is a possibility that out of the four choices given to me, the Christian isn’t really a Christian, that he is a narcissist and abuses his wife and children. The Muslim or the atheist might be perfectly decent people, in which case I would be forced to chose one of them on a purely individual basis. Homosexuality does not affect my decision, so any one of these 3, or a fourth party could be gay and it wouldn’t matter, because I would base my assessment, first on a spiritual basis, and then on their individual characteristics, personality, and past and current behaviors.
This exercise is silly. Let’s focus on what’s significant here; this study highlights the fact that atheists have to deal with extraordinarily strong negative perceptions on a regular basis. Religious folks who like to complain about how “persecuted” they are should keep this in mind.
surprisingly muslims and gays.
@ItsWhatEyeKnow - Small ears, for sure. No contest.
I keep hearing the same songs on the radio. Even when I change the station. This tells me stations are dying. I want to start my own business but that requires too much effort. I want to become a stronger chess player, too lazy to sit down look screen hour after minute. I tried the V8 drink, it taste like any typical juice drink to me. Is Naked a lot better? Also, laddies and gentlemen, I, Dr Mario recommend you eat cookies, they have iron. Cookies with milk, but not oreos, I don’t trust anything that dark. You guys have to try out the Hershey chocolate milk, very blissful. Drink that shit while putting a cherry in your mouth. I do not drink alcohol, and if you do, stop hurting your liver dumb fuck.
And what is this new trend, hot women talking about, uncircumcised penis is a healthier more sexual, circumcision of children crime, wtf!? My penis is circumcised, I am not upset by this. Pants wash pajamas then home then eat. Is suicide wrong? My life is so meaningless I am tempted to slit my wrists and just get this life over with. Why is it more honorable to eat the shit life gives me? Chess! Brighter future. I want a million dollars, I would go to six flags a lot. I would pay to sleep with hot models. I would have my personal doctor, butler, I would live in a hotel. Money woulr seriously be my happiness, three meals a day, the time to work out and become fit as a nail.
I rent a crummy room. I am getting bored. I have to buy shaving products, perhaps I will tomorrow. IF I WANT MONEY SO BAD why am I a lazy son of a hijo de puta cabron!!! AND IF I WANT TO BE HAPPIER why am I as grumpy as an old scrooge with a pencil dick up his behind!!! AHHHHHHHHH!!! I want a pet chimpanzee. I want to baby bottle feed it. And whatever happened to xangans from Nj? I really really do not want to go to a bar.
I am not leaving my kids to anybody whom I knew so little about.
The Gay. Just because fuck it.
So now you’re telling us that rapists are atheists. Right.
with some of the “Christians” as some people like to call their-selves .. overall I would go with them
How will you identify the rapist? Is he going to admit it? Are you going to have somebody who’s in jail raise your child? Very strangely put question.
Trust Most
.. Gay
.. Athiest
.. Christian
.. Muslim
Trust Least
Exactly right, I want @RulerofMasons - to raise my dead children! Holy crap, he is bored! He buys shaving products! He waits till tomorrow.
OH… least trust. I was going to answer the question differently. Well then I have no idea.
@we_deny_everything - Right on. That R of M word-saladin/salad-out (machine?) would be ideal with cadavers.
As to live progeny, I’d want to be sure the caretaker never asked them mindless, unanswerable questions like this one. Yeah, that’d be the lead clause in my will.
I’m repeating comments but I don’t know anything about any of those people that is relevant to whether I’d trust them. I’d need to know more, and none of those labels would affect my decision. It would depend on who they are as people.
I don’t know. If it was most trust I’d pick the gay. It’s really hard.
Gays could be all the other options too. I’d trust none of the above because everyone in any of those choices is an individual. I’d trust a best friend or a trusted family member.
That article was just DUMB! Americans are not becoming more religious see: http://www.gallup.com/poll/128276/increasing-number-no-religious-identity.aspx
And if you were going to pick someone to raise your kid, you woud know a little more about he/she than he is christian/muslim/gay/atheist.
For the record, my child has declared herself atheist, attesting to the US trend away from religion (either that or proving she is a teenager)
the gay person. i mean i’m christian and personally, i really wouldn’t want my child to be gay (but of course i would love them if they were!!!!) but i have yet to meet anyone who is gay who isn’t very nice and has good morals, in my opinion.
An atheist, of course. Most atheists would have the decency to raise a child without shoving any particular religion down their throat.
I have no problem with gays, but it seems to be the thing that doesn’t fit with the rest in *this* particular list. Religion is one thing, sexual orientation is quite another, Danny boy. LOL!
I’d say ANYONE that’s NOT a Christian or a Muslim would be a safer choice. Of course, we need to also cross out rapists and killers.
I’d pick whoever’s least likely to abuse the children.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Trick question. I would never have a child. [wouldn't want to risk them being raised by anyone]
Christian, but let me explain my reasoning, before anyone thinks I’m saying that out of hate/prejudice.
I have to make a lot of assumptions, to begin with. The first is that I would have a kid. I don’t, and I don’t want to. So I have to imagine I have a kid that I care about. Now, since I have no information but the religious (and in one case sexual) preferences of the potential parents, I have to assume that they’re all about the same, in terms of every other aspect of their personality. So, a typical atheist, a typical gay, a typical muslim, and a typical christian. None of which do I consider bad, inherently. So all I have to work with, is the potential influences on the kid’s outlook. And I would want the kid to have a unique outlook, for the sake of (hopefully) developing a strong, independent mind. I would be the most opposed (insofar as i would be opposed, which isn’t much) to my kid possibly being absorbed into what I consider the “mindless majority”.
For that reason, given no other information, I would be most opposed to the Christian, though this is certainly not a kind of, “I don’t want no Christian raising my kid!”
I think I would pick the gay, or the atheist. I mean… if that was all I got to know about them to decide.
@locomotiv - i agree! right now, the christian would be my last option.
it doesn’t say what kind of people they are, but if i had to choose just going by this list? the christian (least) because their values would be least like mine.
The problem is that these categories aren’t mutually exclusive. I could be a gay Christian or a gay Muslim or a Christian Muslim or a Muslim agnostic or a Christian agnostic or some ambiguous combination of all four things. I think the study should evaluate, instead, to what degree (on a scale of 1 to 5) a person would suspect a member of each category.
That said, if I had to pick one and had no further information to go by, I would rank the Christian the least trustworthy. In my experience being raised by Christians, a strongly Christian background leads parents to train children against objectivity, favoring a worldview that rejects contrary viewpoints on principle. Such an upbringing also festers an “us vs. them” mindset, a mindset I believe outweighs the benefits of a “morally sound” lifestyle. To become a well-adjusted member of a society increasingly diverse, a certain open-mindedness is necessary.
Atheist, I would want my child to believe in some kind of higher power, so that they may have the option of praying to their higher power when things get tough.
@ItsWhatEyeKnow - I once heard: Small ears, small character.
my knee jerk answer is atheist.
What I would do is raise on my children on my own value system (which is Christian) and then after they turn 18 they are free to choose their own and then I would love them anyhow, And hopefully they will turn out okay.
o, that’s why those child molesting bishops can manage to stay under the radar for so long.
I would trust a Christian or a gay person because I find gay people to be open and inviting; or at least the ones I’ve met
I don’t think i can choose without knowing the actual person. i can’t possibly decide based purely on these things.
I’m late to the game, but I definitely wouldn’t want a Muslim or a Christian to raise my child. Never ever. They are already raised by gays, one of whom is an atheist, and when I die, gay atheists will raise my kids.
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child? what child?
All of them. Everyone knows that Big Brother & The Ministry of Truth are much more adept at raising out children than we are.
@SpOnTaNeOuS_sPiTbAlL - What does this have to do with your child being gay? Just so you know, you can’t “catch” a sexual orientation.
I wouldn’t leave children with the Christian or Muslim becaue I would want my children to be able to think for themselves without fear. I wouldn’t want them to be afraid of Hell or speaking their minds. I wouldn’t want them to be gullible and believe in fairy tales.
I’m an atheist, but I think I would most likely leave them with the gay person because I would want to be sure that they learned that gender rules do not apply to them and they can be whomever they wish, not matter their sexual orientation or gender.
But, it doesn’t matter. I’m childfree. It’s interesting to see how varied everyone’s answers are.
It’s also interesting to see how many people on here I would probably scare half to death if they had to live with me. lol
@Sleepinl8 - I would want my children to be taught to seek help from real people, like family if things got tough. Real people can actually make a difference and help with problems.
@WickedGame94 - They can offer consolation as well. It’s just my personal preference to believe that there is something greater than all in the universe. It’s true that real people can offer instant comfort, but it just depends. There are countless factors involved. I’m just one of those people who feels that God is guarunteed to always be there for his children. He won’t always grant you the easier way, and you won’t always encounter what you might have hoped or expected, but I believe in the end it is for one’s own good. Not pressuring religion on anyone, just speaking my mind. Wow, this got off topic… Oops…