May 30, 2012

  • Intelligent Xangans are Less Likely To Believe In Global Warming

    A study showed that the more knowledgeable a person is about science, the less likely they are to be concerned about global warming.  Here is the link:  Link

    This makes sense because most of the people on xanga that I have known that believe in global warming tend to be a little slow when it comes to facts about science.  Most of what they post about science gives the impression that they probably just google their answers.

    So you don’t have to listen to their condescending tone anymore.  You can just shake your head and know they are just uneducated when it comes to science.

    Do you tend to think that those who believe in global warming are naive?
                      
                                                                            

Comments (82)

  • I think I know very knowledgeable people on both sides of the argument, and unless I gather all of the information myself, I will never be passed the “partially ignorant” stage of global warming.  

  • I’ve been forced to take classes about it by biased professors who insisted the world was ending almost instantaneously, but i still just don’t really get it.  So i kind of say, IDK MAN, and refuse to recycle unless it’s convenient.  I’d rather save the animals, which sometimes contradicts it, but please give me a break.  It’s all I can do sometimes to survive all this chaos.

    RECYCLING IS FOR RICH PEOPLE WHO HAVE TIME.

    That is all.

  • “This study is agnostic on what people ought to believe,” he told FoxNews.com. “It just doesn’t follow to say this finding implies anything about what people should believe on this issue.”

    Just keep that in mind when you fight about this issue.

  • i guess i tend to think humanity is naive 

  • LMAO.

    Dan, I love your posts.

  • More relevent than a survey of random fucks off the streets are the beliefs of professional scientists:

    http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-19/world/eco.globalwarmingsurvey_1_global-warming-climate-science-human-activity?_s=PM:WORLD

    And they agree: Global warming is real.

  • Yes, humans are naive enough to believe they have this much power. Global Warming exists, man is just not the cause of it.

    By the way, you would easily win a “Favorite Xangan” medal if I were ever to hand them out.

  • LMAO I’m very prejudiced, I believe everyone is less intelligent than me, just like everyone on Xanga :P

  • @Celestial_Teapot - It’s not about whether or not it’s real, it’s about whether or not humans are causing it.

  • @Baseballchik138 - “Yes, humans are naive enough to believe they have this much power. Global Warming exists, man is just not the cause of it.”

    Speaking of naivity– my guess is that bullshit from the conservative propaganda machine has something to do with your dismisal anthropomorphic forcing.

  • Oh man,pretty soon man will have made his own sun right here on Earth.Who needs the sun,we can make Earth a lot hotter than the sun!

  • You can find a “news” article to back up any beliefs these days, really. 

    It doesn’t matter if a person find global warming to be true or not. You shouldn’t need an excuse to care about the environment and educate yourself. Whether or not the planet is crippling shouldn’t be a factor in simple decisions like turning the lights off when you leave your house, or not leaving the bathroom sink running all day. You should at least express some sort of concern for the planet because we live here.

  • Let me tell ya…gobal warming…and global coolling…are both very real.  They do happen and have been happening since Earth’s beginning.  It’s not a thing that happens overnight, it happens gradually over long periods of time.  It’s all cyclical and we as humans are not a major cause in either warming or cooling trends.  So here’s my statement on the issue: Global warming exists, but not in the way Al Gore and friends want us to believe it exists.    

  • cherry picking the article are you? or hoping people don’t actually read it? i’m not a doctor but if 1,000 doctors tell me i have influenza and 16 tell me i don’t it’s likely wiser for me to take the advice of the 1,000 doctors. from that perspective though i don’t have a medical degree it’s probably more intelligent to take the advice of the 1,000 doctors than someone who chooses the 16. and look at the sample of questions. because someone knows an electron is smaller than an atom doesn’t make him or her an expert on anything scientific. the study also doesn’t state where the people questioned were drawn from. in any case one study does not produce an air tight conclusion. those on both sides of the topic of global warming can continue to shake their heads although the number of scientists who have concluded humans are effecting our environment are by far in the majority. 

    when i was a kid i spent summers at the beach without sunscreen and i’ve never gotten cancer. today appears to be a different story. 

  • I believe the cause of global warming is the heat from the poorly ventilated room that houses the internet’s servers.

  • I’m around scientists aka my professors and they say global warming is real. So I agree as a Biology degree holder! Lol

  • First danger sign to the veracity of the article was that it came from Fox News. Didn’t take long to find all the “yellow” in their yellow journalism:

    http://www.newshounds.us/fox_distorts_nature_climate_climate_change_study_s_findings_in_order_to_promote_climate_change_skepticism_05292012

  • @SoullFire - FOX “news” propaganda strikes again. thanks for finding this link. 

  • I don’t worry about global warming, there is still a few years to go before the real damage happens.  I’ll leave the worrying to the kids and grandchildren.  They are the ones that will be really hurting.

  • Wikipedia explains very well what global warming is. I dont feel naive in believing what it says. It seems to make sense. But i think that scientists are the only one to have an idea of what is really going on in the atmosphere.

  • Have more babies!

  • The global warming hoax was perpetrated in order to grow government. Since most Xangan are big government liberals it follows that they would push global warming.

    Dogma, not intelligence or knowledge of science is what powers the global warming agenda.

  • Quote from article/link:”The quiz, containing 22 questions about both science and statistics, was
    given to 1,540 representative Americans. Respondents who were
    relatively less worried about global warming got 57 percent of them
    right, on average, just barely outscoring those whose who saw global
    warming as a bigger threat. They got 56 percent of the questions
    correct.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/28/global-warming-skeptics-know-more-about-science-new-study-claims/?test=latestnews#ixzz1wKPKhQr3

    Does Theo Dan know statistics? the allowance for errors is probably around 2% or greater. Notice that the score was relatively tied and probably Those less worried were added to those that didn’t care. Thus the population of those thinking global warming is a threat is a large group or a majority.

    Paranoid folks skewed the global warming folks and lowered the score. Thus true believers of global warming are smarter in answering the questions.

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    Some future stuff to worry about Global warming:
    1. Burning of coal causes CO2 and adds sulfur to the air. It is one of the dirtiest fossil fuel. Acid rain was reduced in the US by not burning so much high sulfur coal.
    2. Natural gas has replaced a lot of coal burning. The price of natural gas dropped due to fracking. Fracking may cause other problems, pollution of ground water is one concern.
    3.Germany has reduced the use of Nuclear energy. They have replaced some of the lost energy via wind and solar energy.
    4. Japan is struggling without their nuclear energy. It will take a while for alternative source of energy.
    5. So far no one is concern with methane gas emissions from the arctic. Scientists have noted methane release in Siberia and other northern areas. Will we go beyond the point of no return and too much methane which is worse than CO2 will cause global temperatures to go haywire and out of control?

    Oh well keep you head in the sand and ignore global warming, at you own peril.

  • I was in bed…couldn’t sleep. Got up just for a hot second to make myself tired, but after reading these comments, I’m wide awake.  From laughing.

    Dan: THE STEALER OF SLEEP.

  • :D  Oh, you inveterate pot-stirrer, you.  You just love this.  What would you do to beguile yourself if you quit Xanga?

  • Global warming causes Ice Ages, everyone knows that.

  • Is global warming a new movie???

  • @Celestial_Teapot - But what about the bullshit from the liberal propaganda machine known as Al Gore?  He has made a good chunk of change of the global warming hysteria.

  • @PPhilip - if you’re going to speak of statistics, then cover them all.  France gets the majority of it’s power from nuclear power, and no issues.   There is really no method of producing power that is efficient AND pollutant free.  It still takes fossil fuels to make wind turbines and solar panels.  Solar is still highly innefficient (a home completely covered in solar panels will still not produce enough electricity on average).  It still has not been fully proven that fracking will pollute groundwater (though I do agree, that until we know, it should be done in areas to test that to make sure).

    The charts in Al Gore’s own movie showed that CO2 actually follows temp increases, not the other way around.

    The unfortunate part of global warming is that both sides stand to gain considerable ground and money by “proving” their stance.  Neither side is being fully honest.

  • The poor polar bears and going to have to shed their coats then.

  • But, wait! Al Gore invented the internet!

  • Yes! But I am a Republican :P

  • Strangely Bush’s administration cut down on studies on global warming.

    This link (cut and paste because xanga hates my links) shows CO2 levels are increasing:http://co2unting.com/index.html?show=about
    @grim_truth - Nov 9th, 2011 article states that France’s third generation of nuclear energy projects will continue ( http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204224604577028213416206128.html ) I am not sure if the new Socialist government will continue the program but yes France could lead in the field of the latest nuclear technology.
    Your last statement point is that everyone has an ulterior motive. Who doesn’t have motivation to post? As a botanist I recommend having set aside forest areas for the Earth to have anti CO2  mechanism. I also hope for a bright future for my daughters and grandchild. I purposely do not drive and I hope to never fly either.

  • @PPhilip - 1.  Coal fueled electrical plants have scrubbers.

    2. 3. 4.  Atomic energy is by far the cleanest, best source of electrical power. 
    5.  The global warmers always have a new crisis on the horizon.  They bamboozled the world with the “China Syndrome” crisis back in the 70s and destroyed nuclear power.

    The global warming death of the planet by CO2 crisis lasted decades. I remember hearing about it in all the magazines back in the early 80s.

    So now a new and even uglier global warming death of the planet by CO2 is just around the corner. This time by methane.

    I think we are getting tired of being played.  Why not just argue the benefits of Big Government and save everyone the run around?

  • Remember when the world was a tropical place? Remember the ice age?

    Im sorry, but if someone doesn’t believe in global warming, they have to be an idiot. The world goes through natural processes of temperature changes. It may not be caused by man, but it does happen. And there is proof.

  • @PPhilip - There’s a difference in motivation to do right, and motivation to make profit.  Those who seem to jump on the global warming bandwagon, also seem to attack corporations for being greedy, meanwhile ignoring the billions that have been made off the hysteria of man made climate change.

  • In the seventies, the big scare was global cooling.

  • @bbanmen420 - very few deny climate change.  The main argument is wether or not it is caused by man.

  • @PrisonerxOfxLove -Funny you should mention scubbers and retrofits. this study shows that more coal burning plants would benefit more in taking coal plants off line and replacing them with natural gas than to retrofit:  http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Scrubber_Retrofits_at_Existing_Coal_Plants

    So our Ozone scare and acid rain forecasts were wrong? 
    Big government need to be big enough to act in some cases. Remember that US government stepped in to stop big monopolies. Being run by big companies is even a worse enemy than big government.

  • @PPhilip - That’s fine. But global atmospheric CO2 is a minuscule .00385% of the atmosphere. In English that is 385 parts per 10000.

    At the start of the Industrial Revolution in the 1700s atmospheric CO2 was 285 parts in 10000.

    So in 300 years atmospheric CO2 has increased a whopping 100 parts per 10000.

    I say bring on nukular.

  • the sun hates us all! DIE A SLOW DEATH HUMANS!!!!

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  • I think that, based on a single study, I’m not about to attempt to come to any conclusions regarding an association between scientific literacy and belief in global warming.  I’ll go a tad further and point out that global warming isn’t up for a vote; if a majority of people don’t believe in it, global warming does not become a myth by definition.  (The converse is also true, I hasten to point out, lest anyone read that as my vote towards global warming.)  I’m less concerned with surveys that tell me what people believe, and more concerned with studies that support or fail to support a hypothesis.  

  • @KnightInCROATIANarmor - Not at all. Global warming is a normal cyclical phenomenon occurring in the atmosphere. Some think it is caused by humans. I’m presently reading about it on Wikipedia….”the truth”

  • @LaSalamandre - Oh, no, if 1500 physicists, chemists, biologists, geologists, psychologists, sociologists, and political scientists sign a document supporting anthropogenic climate change, the govt. has to pass cap and trade.  Science rules.

  • Where is Aieel Gore (sic) when we need him??

  • Personally I find both the hyperventilating Chicken Littles and the hyper-deniers to be insufferably ignorant.

  • I deleted my last comment because it was a little rude, my apologies. Let’s just say I disagree. I also believe in evolution, global economics, and other “less intelligent” things. Growing up in a very conservative area most people I knew disagreed with me then and still do, and I like them anyway. I like you anyway, as well.

  • ignorance is bliss, and everything should be blissful

  • Climate Change has ALWAYS been around!!! We have evidence everywhere to prove it….what the problem is ppl don’t want it to change & fear it. There have always been hot spells & cold spells & spellls that kill off everything in sight…it’s called NATURE & it has no cares that you built a house in it’s way..

  • @LaSalamandre - I highly respect your comment, as I was able to survey your intelligence on the whole of it: bright. I intended to reply along the same lines as you, however, you indirectly have saved me the time–thank-you.

  • Smart, clever, and dirty work, Dan.  But you’ve tried subtlety before, haven’t you :)

  • From your link- “Respondents who were relatively less worried about global warming got 57 percent of them right, on average, just barely outscoring those whose who saw global warming as a bigger threat. They got 56 percent of the questions correct.” So you’re claiming that intelligent ppl are less likely to believe in global warming based on a one percentage point difference in one study. That’s weak. But that aside, knowing the answers to those questions is no basis for an educated opinion on global warming in the first place. Few ppl have the knowledge for a truly educated opinion. And those who do, believe in global warming, as CelestialTeapot’s study shows. Everyone else either trusts the scientific consensus or believes that it’s the result of some huge conspiracy theory in which the ppl who actually have an educated opinion are lying to us. 

  • Yes people who believe in global warming tend to range from gullible to stupid.  There is a reason why all the proponents of global warming are either politicians are people being paid by governments.  GW is just an excuse to raise taxes and introduce regulations which will result in sucking more money from the citizens.

  • well apparently everyone is retarded. 

  • 57 % vrs 56%, no way there is a statistical significance.  The conclusion should be that there is no significant difference in the two groups. Read the study not the erroneous conclusions of a news source with a bias. 

  • No.   But I do find that those who have a strong public stance about global warming are more likely to have some other political agenda  - be it conservation, reduced dependency on foreign oil, or organic everything. It seems  global warming is just the scary stick that doesn’t have statistical evidence supporting the thesis.     

  • @DrummingMediocrity - LOL! SOME RECYCLING saves money :) SOME

  • Intelligence is something you’re sorely unqualified to talk about.

    Obvious troll is obvious. LOL!

  • This is a joke, right? First, I read the article, and it indicates believers and skeptics are equally knowledgeable, on average. There was a 1% difference between average scores, certainly not enough to draw that conclusion. Second, what did they do? Pull a bunch of random people off the street, ask them what they believed about global warming, and give them a test on rudimentary science? If those sample questions were any indication, that test only indicated whether or not an individual was completely clueless, about science. And the average score was 57%? I’ve got news for you. These two groups were not supporters and skeptics of global warming, they were mostly two collections of ignoramuses who took a stance on an issue they know nothing about. This is certainly an indication that our society is pathetic, uneducated, and uninformed, but that’s all it is, and I was already well aware of that.

  • @PrisonerxOfxLove - I can’t believe that there are still people who don’t get that global warming is real.

  • @JstNotherDay - Global warming lead scientists, Phil Jones from East Anglia University in Britain and Michael Mann of Penn State University were busted for cooking the data and corrupting the peer review process.

    Global warming is a proven hoax. 

    In fact there has been no global warming for 15 years according to these very same scientists. The whole thing is a scam.

    The jig was up when all the big money scammers shut down the international carbon trading exchange.  They were poised to make billions off of all the suckers who actually believed in the hoax.

  • I can’t believe that there are still people who don’t get that global warming is real.

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  • @PrisonerxOfxLove - If a liar says he is a liar, how is he to be believed?  Was he lying then, or is he lying now?

  • The list of scientists who oppose the concept of man-made global warming is impressive, including folks at MIT, Duke, National Academy of Sciences members, etc. I don’t know the truth and neither does science, so it’s kind of scary how so many citizens have been brainwashed to believe in man-made global warming. It is a theory, not a fact.

  • @JstNotherDay - A hacker got into their emails and published them. So no trust was required. Jones and Mann were running a scam.

  • Global warming seems real, imo. 

  • @PrisonerxOfxLove - Hm, it’s impossible to know what to believe anymore… that comes from man, but I do believe the weather, and weather patterns, and groanings of the earth, speaks for itself.

  • @JstNotherDay - I don’t think you understand. 

    Phil Jones and Michael Mann are two people not one.  They are the lead scientists on climatology feeding governments, environmental groups and the UN with global warming data.

    The hacker broke into their computers and stole 10,000 or so of their emails (that’s how many have been leaked so far). The hacker didn’t make anything up himself.

    It was like the Wikileaks thing only the identity of the hacker has remained secret. I read some of the emails published by the Wall Street Journal.

    In the emails Mann and Jones discussed cooking the data and corrupting the scientific peer review process, among other things.

    There is no man-made global warming. There never was. It’s a total hoax.

    You folks have been played for fools.

  • maybe i do but theres no point in conversating with 1 who believes they already have all the answers.

  • Shouldn’t be too hard to rationalize — all the sex is bound to generate heat. Duh!

  • @JstNotherDay - Climate change is real. This is what Curtis (@PrisonerxOfxLove)  is referring to. What he doesn’t understand is that, in order to refute a scientific theory, you need address it like a scientist, not a teenage girl in a high school cafeteria. You need to address the data, and explain why it does not support the theory, instead of using third-rate gossip as an attempt to discredit it.

    The “controversy” over climate change is no different from the “controversy” over evolution. There is no controversy. There is a definite consensus among experts, and the opposition to that consensus comes not from other experts, but from people whose knowledge on the subject can be described as rudimentary, at best, and who, I would venture to guess, are either victims of that illusory controversy, and/or like to fabricate conspiracies behind official explanations about issues, then challenge those make believe conspiracies and create controversy, to feel important. Because “renegade seeker of truth” is a much more appealing label than “uneducated dolt with too much free time”. It’s fine to challenge scientific theories, but to be considered legitimate, it must be done scientifically, not by wildly flinging insults and accusations, and misrepresenting scientific principles one barely remembers from their high school science classes.

    Lastly, to address multiple other comments on the subject, it is true that fluctuations in global temperatures occur naturally, throughout the Earth’s history. The case for climate change is not based on the fact that those fluctuations are occurring, but that the same fluctuations that normally occur over centuries have recently occurred in only decades.

  • @Maverick83 - Oh please! You can call me Curtis all day long but that doesn’t make your hallucination real.

    Do you actually think that by invoking your personal demons that what is false can be made true?

  • @PatentMagician - You always agree with your professors?

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