July 12, 2012
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How Much Money
People tend to have a certain expectation of how much money they need to make in order to feel they have made it in life.
For some it is $40,000 a year and for others it might be $60,000 or $80,000 a year. And others it might be much higher.
How much money would you need to make to feel like you made it in life?
Comments (113)
$150,000/ year.
Not sure. How much would it cost me to get Greta Gerwig in my bed?
Give me a pencil(preferably mechanical) and a college-rule 80 page notebook or two and I can be happy just about anywhere in any situation.
10 billion.
50k.
As long as we’ve got the bills paid and all the kids fed, I’m happy.
50K a year. That would be living within our means and comfortably while being able to donate. We’re cheap people. Lol
@amateurprose - Greta? WTF?
@amateurprose - YOUR SOUL!! Muahahahahaha!
I’m sorry I don’t understand the question
Okay, okay… at least 6 figures.
I feel like I’ve made it with my current salary. Paired with my husband’s salary, we’re quite comfortable.
the more time i spend chasing money the less i feel like i’ve “made it” no matter how much i accumulate. if i’m fed clothed and sheltered and making other people’s lives better then i’ve made it.. needless to say i’m a failure no matter what.
We hit that number years ago. It feels really good.
Nobody needs more than $50k a year. Personally I believe the Government should cap everyone’s earnings at that level and anybody who makes more should have the amount above that redistributed to those of us who didn’t have a rich daddy to send us to a fancy Ivy League school. That way the do nothing execs and CEOs won’t be taking home millions while those of us who actually work for a living can hardly make ends meet, let alone afford health insurance. It’s about time we reversed this trend of letting the rich getting richer.
I would be happy with $60-80K, I would say.
I work part time fast food so making $20,000 a year would be nice, lol. But later when I’m finished with college I’ll be happy making $50,000 a year. Then I will feel like I’ve made it
@SKANLYN - Places like SF, NY, and DC have pretty fucking high costs of living.
I wonder if people realize that the second they hit their target salary and adjust their lifestyle accordingly, they will see the next big thing over the horizon and want to make more. Then there will be the next big thing. Then the next. And sooner or later you’re trying to one-up the yacht next to you at Bora Bora. In order to truly be happy you have to start with yourself. No amount of money in the world is going to make you content with the disatisfaction in your own life. So before trying to throw money at your problems, maybe spend a little time getting right with yourself and then, perhaps only then, move on towards that top salary or high ranking position.
So now you ask, “Okay moron, how’d you do it?” My answer? “I got right with God, then found a higher calling through Him. Once you find yourself a part of something so huge as God, money doesn’t really matter beyond paying for your basic needs. What once was of such much value has since become immaterial.”
Just some things to ponder. Good night.
according to my recent psych classes once you make 76k+ you don’t really get any happier so lets say 85000 just so I can have a nicer car than those people and laugh at their contentedness as I zoom past.
@Celestial_Teapot - That’s cuz there’s too many rich people in those places. Let the government step in and equalize things and prices will come down.
win the lotto. fuck the salary.
@SKANLYN - Yer funy man….thing is,the Gov doesn’t redistribute it like they say.They even have you fooled.They spend it on themselves and their pleasures,pay companies way more than things are worth and get kickbacks from it.The Gov has not one bit of interest in spreading the wealth except to themselves and thats the sad truth.
@Celestial_Teapot - If I made that much I’d buy my OWN lake
I used to go for 10,000 but I’m going for a few billion now.
It’s going to take a lot of money to fix this.
As long as the mortgage is paid and my basic living needs are taken care of, I have little to ask more of. I found that when you make more, you spend more, because you have it. Now, that’s not to say that all people are that way, but many are, and I certainly did. I don’t need fancy handbags, expensive cars, monthly weekend getaways, etc. Nice to have, but not necessary.
Since i realize that equality is an unattainable utopia i would not feel guilty to win the lottery and be my own pig for the rest of my life…
Always seems to be a little more. I’d guess for the lifestyle I currently want… need about another 12k/year.
A BAJILLION
I read the article and was surprised that it was at 70k. I do not know how much it would take for me but I do agree with spending it on experience than item, which I am doing.
so much that I can retire young and stay home counting my moneyz
I’ll feel like I’ve made it when I earn more than the Government, future wife, future kids, and future home can take and spend…and in the case of the Government STEAL.
60k annually sounds like a good start. I would much rather hope to live comfortably than just getting by. Didn’t grow up with much so i would pray my future children will grow up with much more than I had
$80K. Currently living just under $50 and it isn’t enough. But my mom who makes under $30K might feel like $50 would be perfect.
@SKANLYN - I think I would like you to work harder and earn more so that I don’t have to and the extra money above $50K you make is given to me. I appreciate that you are already onboard with this. Thanks.
120k
@SKANLYN - Worst idea ever O.o
When the deal with the house closes and we get settled, I’ll have made it. Never have to make another fucking payment AGAIN! WOO HOO!!!! HALLELIU!
@Kellsbella - I responded but it looks like dan deleted it so I will respond again! Odd one to delete, TheoDan.
What do you mean, Greta, WTF??? She’s awkward, silly, and smart. All of those attributes are SOOOOOO sexy! And she’s just super hot!
Atleast double what I make now! Then I’ll have money to play and actually enjoy life because it really is expensive.
100k. Live on 50, bank the other 50. In 20 years, you will have saved a million, and can retire and live on the interest. (normally. right now interest or investment income on a million is only about 30k a year
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If you find yourself a single parent with three kids, providing them each a car, college, and help with a down payment on a house takes some real dough. You won’t do that on 20k a year. And paying off that 40k in college loans is going to take you two or three decades unless you get after it and get aggressive.
Given that a decent average house runs $150k in most of the country, and your monthly house payment will be $1500 or higher, plus food and utilities, car gas, etc. I am surprised a lot of you aren’t setting your sights higher…
$100,000 / year should due.
I would live off $30,000 comfortably; however, I got student loans, so it would be $40-50,000. And I have no idea how much once I am married and have kids. It may go up, unless my student loans go down.
I’m more concerned about having time to get something done with my life than how much money I make.
How much money would it take for me to survive, have some spare time to work on my music, work out, and occupy most of my life creating and producing multimedia that would encourage people to think about how their behavior effects other human beings?
@Somefishytales - That might be the case with the Reagans and Bushes but we fortunately now have a working man like us in the White House. We just need to get the Republicans out of Congress in November.
@ilikesourskittles - So the Constitution is the worst idea ever? It does say “All men are created equal”, meaning that if you have two dollars and I have one, the government is obliged to take fifty cents from you and redistribute it so we both have a dollar fifty. Otherwise it’s unconstitutional.
Would be just making it at 40g. 60g would be comfortable, and 80g would be ideal. This is why I go to school.
@SKANLYN - Like I said,yer funny
Truthfully, once I’m finished with my PhD (after I get done with this undergrad) I’ll be proud of myself and consider myself a success, regardless of how much I make. I know I’ll make enough to be comfortable, though, so its not an issue. If I had to give a number, though, I’d say I’d be happy with about 80K.
@Somefishytales - And you’re a cheap old man who wants to hoard all your money while the rest of us starve. Ironically you’re probably a xtian and therefore commanded by your mangod to give all your money to the poor. Remember Marie Antoinette old man? We’ll eat cake all right, right beside you’re guillotined carcass. There’s a revolution coming and you rich sonovabitches will soon be made to pay the consequences for your sins.
Publishers Clearing House is giving away $5,000 a week for life. I could be happy with that!
Actually, if I could get out of debt, I would be very happy. My current salary would be enough.
Nothing. We’ve all made it in life, if we’re adults. Each person is going to be different, but as Woody Hayes once said:
“Succes: it’s what you do with what you’ve got.”
“Making it” is’t necessarily about material possessions. It’s about being content. To me, content is debt free, while having enough to live off of. So it really wouldn’t take much. However, that doesn’t stop me from wanting nice things lol
@SKANLYN - CREATED equal. It does not mean equal results. If so, then I demand you give me half of everything you have that I don’t have. If you are unwilling to publicly list all of your possessions so they may be distributed among us, then you are a liar and a hypocrite.
First of all, i’ve lived quite comfortably well below the federal poverty line. Cant say that i’m really any happier in the middle class. So i’ve made it – my kids are grown, my man is fed and happy, i’m fed and happy. I do have other goals that define success for me, but they aren’t tied to a salary.
As for SKANLYN, if everybody is making $50K regardless of their contributions, who will provide medical care (not all doctors had their daddie’s put them through the Ivy Leagues)? Who will work the jobs that require long hours, ingenuity, hard work, or lots of schooling? I have a problem with people who think that because i have xyz in my life, they should also be entitled to xyz in theirs. Um, i busted my ass for xyz and i don’t have the lmnop that you do have.
I also know another couple who make quadruple what my husband and i do. They couldn’t afford to put their only child through the local junior college, while my husband and i put our kids through college without loans. We chose to put the education of our children ahead of our own needs, not because we are filthy rich, but because we sacrificed.
There are those who get by on $25K for a family of six – and it can be done! They are blessed, truly blessed. The wife stays home and sews and cooks and homeschools. So my own family eats out and has vacations. They also have a mom who doesn’t cook much, doesn’t have time for sewing lessons, and works weekends. It’s a tradeoff.
You define your own success and your choices are not necessarily the right choices for others. Not everybody has the same priorities, the same circumstances. So do what’s right for you, don’t judge me for my choices, and get over the whole entitlement thing. You’re entitled to what you earn.
@grim_truth - You are obviously a stupid idiot. There is no way the government can realistically account for and control everyone’s individual posessions. What they can control is people’s income. They can take income above a certain amount from the rich, in the form of taxes, and residtribute it to those of us who make less than that amount to make sure we all have equal potential, as demanded by our constitution.
@SKANLYN - we do all have equal potential. It’s no one’s fault but your own if you refuse to act on that potential.
So what you’re saying is, you want to keep what you already have, but don’t want others to keep what they make. Interesting how that works out. When it benefits you, you are for it, when it would force you to share, you suddenly oppose it.
Your argument makes zero sense. Let’s say they redistribute the wealth. And I take what was distributed to me, and invest it and make millions. You’re saying, just because it’s cash, I can’t keep it? Even though I did the work of the research? However, you could buy something, then barter and trade your way to a mansion.
If you’re going to support a plan, at least support one that makes sense.
And you have the nerve to call ME an idiot.
Also, what would stop employers from paying folks in things other than money?
Oh that’s right. It’s already been done. FDR enacted caps on salaries, and that’s when medical insurance became a job benefit and was the beginning of the healthcare mess we see today. I guess you want to see it happen with housing? Or food? What area would you like to see become overpriced and taken over by someone other than the person actually making the money and actually needing the services? Or are you content with the areas already ruined by gov’t intervention?
I am content in little.
The only reason I want any money is to stop needing help and be able to help someone else for a change.
I think we only make 20,000 right now for our family of 4. So I’d be content to double that so we can own a home and have money to put our children in sports and things that interest them.
My husband on the other hand wants to makes millions. lol. He’d say well over 100,000 I’m sure/
I’m not really sure about that…
@SKANLYN - if my salary was going to be capped at 50k, why would I go through college, med school, and residency when I could major in something like communications, or better yet, not go to college at all and still make half of what I would as a doctor? the world is collectively heading towards a globalized capitalist market for a reason.
I won’t feel as though I’ve made it until I’m bringing in 7 figures.
200K
I don’t think it’s possible to really have a set “goal salary” like that: once you achieve it, you always end up wanting more.
I’d like to have enough to support myself on a modest lifestyle, and travel often. $50,000 would be more than enough.
If I can scrape up more that $400 a month, I think I’ll have it made.
I’m more focused on making it through the week than making it in life. [Accepting charities and donations. See me for further inquiry.]
My wife gives me a nice allowance monthly.
@soupermodel - Your greed sickens me. Rich people have ruined this country. They do nothing but accumulate wealth, using tax loopholes to get their taxable income down to a dollar so they end up contributing nothing to society. Even Jimmy Buffett thinks it’s wrong that he pays no taxes while his secretary has to pay thousands to pick up the slack for rich people. The reason you go to school to become a doctor should be to help out the less fortunate not to make an obscene and unreasonable amount of money. Not all of us have the talent or motivation for that kind of work and we shouldn’t be penalized with a lower salary because of it.
@soupermodel - If the only reason you are going to med school is to make a “good” salary, then I don’t want you as my doctor. Imagine if those who wanted to heal people, had a gift for healing, went to med school instead of those who go for money and prestige. Hmmmm.
If all your schooling were fully paid, would you feel differently? What would it take for you to “settle” for a “reasonable” salary?
At least a million. I have two aging parents to take care of. One is
probably going to need some kind of live-in caretaker (my father didn’t
re-marry so he lives by himself and some men just can’t take care of
themselves really well) and I need to buy my mother a decent-sized house
(and all the signs I’ve been seeing are “affordable homes starting at
100′s!”) so that she doesn’t have to sleep in the living room of her
trailer. Then there are my two aunts who both had a hand in raising me.
Then there’s the charity I want to start-up. Then there’s the school
loans I have to pay back–20k, which really isn’t all that much but
considering that’s what I currently make a year… I really don’t feel
like I’ve “made” it until that’s taken care of anyway…
Oh! I also want my own theme park with roller-coasters and
water-slides… A yacht… My own island… You know, the usual.
(Although I’m going to have to skip the fancy cars, overpriced clothes,
and handbags that cost more than the money it’s carrying just because
those things are really to impress other people and I don’t feel that
need.)
I don’t really like to pass judgment and tell someone that they are
making “too much” money because honestly… I don’t know what they’re
doing with it. They could be using it to help someone else accomplish
something extraordinary. Batman and Iron Man, for example. Also, who am I
to say they didn’t work hard for it? I don’t see them punching in and
out. I accept the fact that there are higher pay positions out there
that I can’t get into because it is more difficult and require certain
skills that I have yet to develop. If everyone had the same starting
point and took the same exact path, they still won’t end up at the
finish line at the same time but why are we competing anyway? Our values
are all different. Your goal might be to survive the zombie apocalypse.
Mine is just to not be the first to die. If those two happen, the
results are different but we both win. Our life is part chance but it’s
not like we are powerless to fate. I choose to go to work instead of
calling in sick even if I was out too late the night before. I caught a
lucky break that my managers are good people that see the potential in
me as an employee. I caught a bad break that my father got pulled over
for a busted rear brake light and I’m out $800 because he can’t afford
that plus his mortgage. That’s just the way things go sometimes. I can
cry about it for awhile but in the morning, I get up and adjust my life
accordingly. I don’t expect to receive anything that I didn’t work for. I
think part of being an adult is having that sense of
self-accountability.
Also, how much is “too much” is kinda relative as everyone can see in
these comments. There are a lot of people comfortable with where they
are at and that’s great!
Heck, I don’t even consider myself poor. Sure, I occasionally open my
fridge and pantry to see almost nothing but condiments inside but I have
yet to be homeless and for that, I am grateful. Even more so when I
send in a few bucks to St. Jude’s Hospital or Teresa’s Charities each
month. I just think about how growing up, $5 was a LOT of money to us as
a family and now I spend $20 on a single meal for MYSELF and it reminds
me of where I’ve been and how far I’ve come. So even when I feel I
can’t really “afford” to, I give thanks and if that means I have to skip
a few trips to Starbucks that month, that works for me.
@SKANLYN - Wow. I didn’t have a rich daddy to send me to school, but once I’m done I’ll owe 150k in student loans for my law degree. If I only made 50k a year, I’d be in debt forever. But way to over generalize.
40,000 sounds good to me right now.
@mangotini - If the rich had to pay their excess in taxes the government could afford to make college free so there would be no student loans to pay off. How does it make you feel to know that students who are already rich get to graduate with no debt while those who actually want to work for a living graduate poor and in debt? The wealthy have been raping us far too long.
@SKANLYN - “not all of us have the talent or motivation for that kind of work and we shouldn’t be penalized with a lower salary because of it.” Ah, good stuff! This is one of my very favorite Xanga comments of all time.
my boyfriend and i run a landscaping company and live comfortably, although we dont make a ton of money. we are still happy. and thats what counts. granted, it’d be very nice to have all of the luxurious and material items and we will never stop striving for more. but we also dont allow money to be the sole foundation of our happiness and well being. we would become ultimately poor if we ever were to let that happen.
As long as the bills are paid and our daughter is taken care of, I am fine. I can’t put a price on that. My husband works very hard for the money we have as I am going to school. It would be selfish of me to not understand and appreciate the effort he puts forth. To say it isn’t enough and that I want more would just be a slap in the face to my husband.
@MiDarkLyfe - I’m not going to med school, it was an example of basic economic theory. It’s just how the world works. These important jobs are just hard, and if you’re getting no reward form it, there’s no motivation. Look at communism. It’s great in theory, it just does not work.
All my school is paid. I have an academic full ride. So no, it doesn’t make me feel any differently. Currently, I’m triple majoring (math, business law, marketing) with plans to go on for two grad degrees (JD/MBA). Would I do this if I knew that I would be making just as much if I were an art major? Absolutely not. What would make me “settle” for a lower income? Probably nothing. I don’t like to settle for anything. I’m not motivated by money, exactly. I’m motivated by achieving great things on a large scale, which is so much more addicting and rewarding than money. I could not stand a life of mediocrity.
@SKANLYN - I’m sorry, I will not argue with you. Clearly you have done no research in which to back your arguments. Jimmy Buffet is a singer. Warren Buffet is the businessman. And I can guarantee you, Warren Buffet would agree with me. Communist markets do not work. They just don’t. It wasn’t my greed I was explaining, it was basic economics.
And yes, you shouldn’t earn as much as someone with more motivation than you. Absofuckinglutely you shouldn’t. It’s not rich people that are ruining the country, it’s lazy people. Yes there are some megawealthy that use tax loopholes to get out of paying large portions of their income to the government. But there are also people out there that have worked from nothing to work every day of their lives to make 6 or 7 figures. And they sure as hell deserve that money more than people unwilling to work for it.
@soupermodel - You’re ignorant. It’s that type of attitude that allows the rich to get richer while the poor get poorer. Sorry but someone is not better than me because they’re a doctor or a lawyer. They just had different interests than me but that doesn’t mean they deserve to make more money than me. I worked hard, much harder than any doctor or lawyer, before I lost my job because I failed some stupid piss test (another example of how the rich are ruining this country – they lobbied to make marijuana illegal in order to eliminate competition for nylon and cotton rope which is inferior to rope made from hemp).
@SKANLYN - …. and it all begins to make sense.
I think… 80k if I had to earn it, or 60k if my husband did. Combined income? Still 80k. Why? Because really, I just want to stay at home and have/raise children.
@soupermodel - Your comment made me laugh in agreement.
like Warren Buffet said,”if I thought a new car or a new house would make me happier I would buy it.” I thought that was a good answer.
@SKANLYN - You cannot survive in California on only $50K a year.
Enough to buy myself a house with four bedrooms, a living room, a family room and two bathrooms, retirement savings, plus a car payment and car insurance and to pay for utilities and food and one me-only vacation and one family vacation a year! So, not that much!
50,000 is a good start
Just enough to live on…maybe $30,000. I believe that my life is a success every day that I make it through alive and without doing harm or killing anybody else especially on purpose…if I had to kill someone I probably could. Fortunetly I have never been in that situation….All this winners and losers bullshit is just sheer ego masturbation that humans enjoy so much and it is rather pathetic…in my opinion.
to feel comfortable? 45-50K, to feel like I’ve “Made It” 150,000 +.
Will $150,000+ ever happen? No.
Never actually thought about it in those terms. Mostly, I just want to have everything I need and a few things I want. I’m almost there!
I already make six figures a year as a plus sized model so I’m good.
I think what you need to be happy very much depends on your definition of happiness. Doing your own thing and not being concerned by the bottom line is one way to lead a happier life.
On the other hand,several years ago, an old friend went sailing with us and complained “Here I am busting my ass to be able to do when I’m 65 what you are doing now.” He’s now in his eighties and he and his wife recently gave $5M to his college – I guess he made it.I never worried about money and retired many years ago. I’m now worth about four times as much as I was before retirement – well into seven figures now. We live very well on about $125K/year income
@grim_truth - @SKANLYN - The difference between your views is that SKANLYN thinks a person’s value is measured by his income, if us all being equal must mean we all MAKE equal $$$. That is a very shallow view of human worth. How sad.
As long as I can pay my bills and stay ahead, I’m happy.
@mtngirlsouth - No – I think we’re all equal. That is, we are all worth the same. You’re not better than me because you’ve decided to spend years in medical school so you can become a doctor. If that’s what you want to do in life, great. I, on the other hand, get bored with reading and studying and I don’t like to put in long hours. It doesn’t mean I should be make less money. We deserve the same.
@SKANLYN - “I, on the other hand, get bored with reading and studying and I don’t like to put in long hours. It doesn’t mean I should be make less money.” You should make the same for putting in less hours? That is not equal. That is saying your hours are worth more. “You’re not better than me because you’ve decided to spend years in medical school so you can become a doctor.” Also, I don’t think someone having more money than me makes them better than me. Why do you think that?
I’d be happy with $100,000, happier I guess with more but money isn’t all it takes. I’ll never feel I’ve “made it” because we should always work towards a dream. That’s just being alive.
for my family, I say $65,000. My parents were at about that my junior year in high school. I know this due to all the renovation we did that year.
To get back to the question asked, Dan put my husband and I down for $70K. We have worked hard and sometimes made a game out of what we didn’t have so we didn’t get down on ourselves. When I could work, we made about $45K but at that time we had two teenaged sons. We didn’t shop at the Gap, and the boy’s had “payday” (Payless) shoe, I told them that I always bought turkey ham because it was better, not because it cost less. Talk about a ‘close knit family’ we had one 9″ television…thats close. Now either one of them could buy and sell Bobby and I two or three times over. But they saw me work sometimes until midnight and they learned.
The reason I wish I made more now is that being physically challenged after 4 strokes and three heart surgeries (most likely because I did work so hard and worried so much) Bobby is now carrying all the load. There is enough but no extra. I need a ramp so that I can get my wheelchair out of the house, and a van to carry it in, I would like to be able to pay someone to come in 1/2 day three times a week in order that he doesn’t have a full day’s housework to do when he gets home. But am I happy? You bet I am… with someone that loves you that much who wouldn’t be. I do not begrudge anyone that makes more. I play the hand I am delt. And as far as @SKANLYN is conscerned…even if she was right (which she isn’t) with the kind of assinine arguments she makes I would be surprised if she ever makes the poverty level. If she wants more money, she can be the one that helps someone like me 3 days a week. No joke, there are home health care companies that will pay her for that. But I waste my time, she just seems to want an argument.
@mtngirlsouth - If someone is allowed to have more money they get to have more stuff. And if someone chooses to work more, that’s their choice. I have other interests besides work. No, that doesn’t mean they deserve more money.
@SKANLYN - What gives you the right to decide for others how much stuff they should be allowed to get?
@SKANLYN - Ya gotta understand you are trying to argue cents to @grim_truth - who’s model of virtue is an anti-semite that tried to decapitate a Jew on national television.
@mtngirlsouth - The constitution which says the government has to make us all equal.
@tendollar4ways - He’s a greedy, rich pig who is hoarding all the money and blames the Jews to take the focus off himself.
@SKANLYN - No it doesn’t, it says we are already created equal. That has nothing to do with how much we earn. Equal pay for EQUAL work and marches for equality were not at all about what you are saying. What you are saying is equal pay for lesser work. You think that you are entitled to things that require hard work, minus the hard work on your part. And you live in some kind of fantasy world where that kind of thinking is fair.
The government cannot control the value of goods and services. Simply put, the value of goods and services are determined by what people are willing to pay for them. Equality means that each of us have a fair shot to whatever standard of living we set for ourselves. Not that we all must succumb to whatever standard of living someone like you determines for us all. I have a hard time understanding how you think it is fair for someone who has not worked as hard to reap the same benefits as others who did.
@SKANLYN - I found this video of @grim_truth - coaching his High School football team. Coach GT
@mtngirlsouth - Funny thing is,if there were no hard working people NOBODY would have nothin!
@Ork58 - FINALLY a rational comment. thank you!
Lol, Jimmy Buffett is the CEO & Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway…. best news he’s heard all day.
Time to retire the parrot & move to Margaritaville, Jimmy.
@tendollar4ways - Ah, yes, instead of making a valid point, as usual, you resort to ad hominem attacks. Also, for the record (and an odd bit of trivia) the man that Woody “tried to decapitate” was my supervisor’s best friend in high school. He didn’t try to decapitate him and the hit was actually pretty weak. Hayes was 65. Bauman was what, 19? Oh, and Bauman is not a Jew. Of course, I wouldn’t expect you to actually be about truth. Hayes was also one for charity. One of his mantras being “pay it forward.” But that’s right. You don’t want folks to voluntarily help others as they are able and as they see fit. You are actually about removing all freedom from that realm and only helping those you see fit. The difference is when folks have the choice, more different groups of people are helped. Under your flawed policy dreams, those groups are quickly whittled away to a select few.
@SKANLYN - Greedy? You’re the one who already said that you would be unwilling to share assets, yet you want others to share their income. You stated that it would not be feasible for the gov’t to monitor assets to redistribute. However, wouldn’t it also not be feasible for the gov’t to monitor income made from investments, or those who are self-employed? After all, isn’t what they claim on their taxes just a matter of how honest they are being? Where does the constitution state that the gov’t has to make us all equal? It doesn’t.
I will let you kniw when I get there.
@soupermodel - Lol…
@soupermodel - the funny thing is, with the right idea and the motivation to see it through you can do that.
@grim_truth - Go watch another Mel Gibson movie you Jew hating sonovabitch.
@SKANLYN - The law has absolutely NOTHING to do with your firing. Even in nations where pot is legal, there are still companies that require piss tests, genius. zomg… guess what!?! Alcohol is legal and can still get you fired if you come in drunk or if it’s in your system, too!
You’re complete ignorance in anything is astounding and pretty much negates any valid points you would ever make, if you were to ever make any.
@SKANLYN - hmmm… I always thought Jews were the rich ones, hoarding money and causing the economic mess… at least that’s what Hitler told us. Amazing how if you substitute “rich” for “jew” in his arguments, you have the same arguments as him….
If my basic needs are met (with good quality food), I have the basic luxuries of a first world country (running water, electricity), and I can still afford a computer/internet access, a cat, and art supplies, I can get by if in the right place (ie, a town with a good bus system). Ideally, I’ll also have the money to spend on hobbies/learning things in class settings.
I’d rather have the time to do what I want than money.
@SKANLYN - Nope. The constitution says we are to have an equal opportunity to earn the 2 dollars. If someone else just puts in the effort to make a dollar and I put in more to make 2, it isn’t fair or equal that they get 50 cents from me.