I’m prolly more likely to kill than be killed, so I’m with ya.
As long as I am the one in control, guns are jussssst fine.
That’s why my Desert Eagle is always nearby. As if the ghettos ain’t bad enough you have psychopaths having breakdowns in suburbia.
I wouldn’t care as much about my victims being armed as long as I had my own armor on.
I support gun control in that I believe from a young age, everyone should be taught how to properly handle a gun. I’m sorry, but this is just an incident that gets national coverage because people died. It sucks. But don’t chastise and make things worse for those of us with enough common sense to not go shoot up the joint whenever we feel like it. It’s just not fair for those of us who can use good judgement.
The only gun control I support is using both hands.
you should include this video in your post. It’s excellent satire.
Coming from Wisconsin – I want to be equally armed. Plus, guns don’t kill people – stupid people kill innocent people. Maybe they need to switch and go to throwing stars. Easier to knock them down them
Whit all these guns around how could this not happen ?…
I do and don’t
Heh, I’ve always supported concealed carry, which is one of the first things I thought of. That situation was so crazy that someone else with a gun may not have been able to do anything, but in most shootings if an intelligent person has a gun they can stop the shootings. It’s even happened before, but of course the media never reports that.
@BebstersBlog2 - the guy who shot the people in the theatre was intelligent…. he was a neuroscience student.
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I don’t know what to think. On the one hand, I’m not sure it would be better to have a bunch of people whip out guns and start shooting, as it would probably have hit more people. On the other hand, that bastard shot so many people, who had no way of defending themselves. I really am not sure what I think about this but the way you put this makes a good point I think.
I prefer bullet control!
Here’s an idea. How about we make this discussion about the 71 victims, including the 12 who have died so far. How about we not make this about how those evil bastards on the right support the NRA and those evil bastards on the left support gun control. How about we just make it about the one lone individual who fired on 71 other individuals and let the facts speak for themselves. Those facts are not political, they are people. Real human beings who don’t give a shit about your views on gun control or whether you are for it or not. All they care about is getting in touch with their loved ones and, perhaps, just surviving these next few days.
So before some of you regulars chime in with how evil the ‘other side’ is, just take a minute and remember who the real victims are.
A few years ago they took twin cities and in one city they took all the guns, in the other city it was required everyone carry a gun. Bet ‘cha can’t guess which city had the crime rate go down. A thug walks into a Stop n Rob grocery. The only two people in the store is the cashier and a little old granny. Now us little old grannies don’t like to put up with some upstart kid in the first place and in the second place many are on fixed incomes and can’t spare losing their cash. Don’t mess with a little old granny with a gun. Every so often a granny fighting for what is hers hits the news. The important thing, as has been pointed out by people that want to outlaw guns, people need to be reviewed for their abilities every few years. Dementia could be dangerous. People need to go to gun ranges and practice, learn the laws and proper handling of the chosen piece, then and only then be licenced to carry one. I have my CHL. If all criteria have been met, I am with Heston, “From my cold dead hands”.
Dan. Gun control isn’t about keeping guns from people and preventing self-defense. Its about keeping the most lethal guns out of people’s hands. What use do I have for an assault rifle or machine gun? Seriously, tell me. What use does any civilian have for those? None. There is no practical answer.
I don’t know, for me I had a small collection of weapons but got rid of them once I found out that my girlfriend (now wife) had two small children.
Arguments against gun control are ridiculously simplistic. But then, most of the people making those arguments are conservative, so no surprise there.
I don’t think guns are entirely necessary for anyone. I live about an hour away from where the shooting took place, I was seeing the midnight premier of the same movie in a different place, honestly it shouldn’t have to cross your mind that you might be in the same room as the wrong person with a gun. I think there should be more regulation enforced for people who desire to own a gun.
I totally believe in gun control, I believe that guns are in the control of the people using them and those people should know how to control their guns responsibly and justly.
I think people are missing your satire here…
@FallenSafely - Nah, I fully believe that Dan is a horrifying serial killer/murderer/rapist thingy.
oh lord
not even touching this one
if you need me I’ll be looking at pictures of fluffy kittens
@EmilyandAtticus - don’t worry. Once you become a victim of a crime then you will know “what to think”. It’s called “common sense”. Hey did you know criminals still use drugs??? Seriously they do. Really they do I am not making that up. And the cops may even show up AFTER a crack head rapes your ass.
in a situation like that, I’d run or duck and hide than shoot back and possibly accidentally shoot more innocent people. if the gunman was face to face with me, then I’d want to shoot him like jodie foster shot that creep in the brave one movie, but if I was already pretty far away, I’d keep running. unless I was a huge guy, who can help carry others to safety, which I’m a petite girl, then I’d run like a girl and never look back.
Regardless of the law, active shooter events seem to be happening more and more. Training for such situations is a step that anyone can take. It’s not a guarantee, but it may help ease the panic and get at least someone out of a bad situation. Carrying a lethal weapon won’t help if you’re unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s an insulting and arrogant to think otherwise. In the mean time, anyone have ideas on how to find and stop people from initiating such a crime to begin with?
@EmilyandAtticus - absolutely when it comes to privileged people that don’t use there brains on such simple issue’s.
As a serial killer you might not want to be watched closely as soon as you want to own one, or arrested before you even can kill someone (for illegaly owning a gun). I’m for more security people in public places, who of course need to be trained too.
“As a serial killer” is a good way to start an article. I wonder if anyone caught that.
To be honest, if you’re going to carry a gun for self-defense, then it should only be unholstered when someone pulls out a weapon on you, and if possible, warning shots should be fired. That wouldn’t be the case with the shooting in Colorado, but with the case of Treyvon Martin, an unarmed youth punching you and slamming you around after you chased them down should not be a reason to pull a gun on a person. Gun control laws really only hurt law-abiding citizens. There’s no way the shooter in Colorado would have had an AR-15 with a full magazine would be able to get a hold of it through legal means if he were in his native Californian state. He obeyed the law, but he was in another state. A more codified enforcement of guns on a national level is what causes debates. Although I prefer gun controls to be regulated from state to state rather than with a national ruling, crossing state lines seems to be a way to mess things up. I don’t have strong opinions over the matter, but I lean towards different direction on the case. [reads one of the comments] Yeah, machine guns aren’t really necessary for civilian use. You shouldn’t really go hunting with something that may ruin the “poached”, and it’s even stupider to give a civilian the ability to squeeze multiple deadly projectiles as self-defense. But whatever, that’s a different topic.
@Its_PapaBear - How about safely and securely storing your firearms, and when girlfriends children are old enough, teaching them about safely handling them, firing them, and the awesome responsbility that goes with it?
@Maverick83 - “Arguments against gun control are ridiculously simplistic. But then, most of the people making those arguments are conservative, so no surprise there.”
And liberals who condescendingly look down their noses at the masses from their ivory towers create nothing but contempt and disdain from those masses. If you’d have been in that theatre the other night, you’d have been praying for some CC holder to take the guy out. But no, the theatre has a policy of banning Concealed Carry. So law abiding citizens had to be in there unarmed, and had no chance against a crazy man, in full body armor, shooting helpless people like fish in a barrel.
Instead of dressing like the Joker and releasing teargas to terrify everyone, he could have dressed like a suicide bomber and blown himself up, killed just as many people, and never fired a single round. Where would your contemptuous anti-gun stance be then? At least he’d have saved the taxpayer decades of paying for his imprisonment, and the multitude of hearings, appeals, investigations and lawsuits that will inevitable arise…
@Bobby - a .22 bullet will kill you just as dead as a .38 or a .45. People have many reasons for owning, buying, and selling firearms, including collectibility or investments. Many people buy and sell exotic or unusual firearms and never fire them. For investment grade firearms, they lose value if they HAVE been fired…
What need does the average citizen have for a car stereo with subwoofers and a 1000 watt amplifier? The standard car radio will produce music that you can hear while driving your car. Besides, that loud music can damage your hearing, or distract you while driving, might not hear the train horn or the semi horn bearing down on you.
Same logic applies to the possession and ownership of certain types of firearms.
@brrraaaiiins - Banning or severely restricting a law abiding citizens ability to own, buy or sell a firearm will not stop incidents like this. Remember, the other day 65 million law abiding gun owners killed zero people with their firearms.
What need do you have for a gun? Because evil people who do bad things exist. If we lived in a utopian world, we wouldn’t need firearms. But we don’t. Since the theatre had a concealed carry ban, those people were helpless, like shooting fish in a barrel.
There is already a ton of regulation for possessing a firearm. Try it yourself. Go to the local sporting goods store, and fill out the applications for buying a handgun. You don’t need to buy it, just go through the paperwork, backround checks, fees, applications, etc to buy one, see how easy it is. Even at a gun show, there is a paper trail, instant backround check, applications, fees, showing valid I.D. etc.
And remember, this bonehead could have just as easily dressed like a suicide bomber, shouted “Allaku Akbar” and blown up himself and a dozen others. Happens overseas nearly every day, without pulling a trigger.
Everytime someone misuses a firearm in the commission of a crime, the anti-gunners trot out their “I hate guns” messages, and scream for banning firearms, as if that will ban criminals.
Its like saying a spoon is the reason you are fat.
Lots of people with guns = high possibility of accidentily shooting each other even without a serial killer.
@Ork58 - I could have taught them gun safety and all the responsibility that come with it but they were just too young and too curious to have around to take that chance. So I chose this way. Now that they are older and moved out, I may get back into them, I don’t know.
So if you would like to place your faith in law enforcement, feel free. But if you ask me, it’s nice having a backup. Be it a sword, a gun, etc.
Oh I’m so with you! I don’t want my victims to be able retaliate either!
God! How am I supposed to enjoy my hobby if they kill me first?!
One has to ignore the violent crime statistics of every country with gun control to make the fucking retarded and paranoid “If I don’t have a gun somebody’s gonna kill me” statement. “If guns were outlawed, only outlaws would have guns,” isn’t even an argument – it’s a ridiculous word game. “If postage stamps were outlawed, only outlaws would have postage stamps” is equally true. And don’t throw instances of isolated whack-jobs, like the Norway rampage last summer, at me either. Aside from the fact a bunch of kids at summer camp aren’t going to have guns (unless it’s in Texas, where killing people is a state-mandated pastime), if the only argument a person has is an isolated and extreme case, that’s an argument for having no real argument. If that’s how we make legislation, we need to outlaw Beatles music, since Charles Manson decided they were telling him to slaughter people.
one can make the reverse argument: if everyone in the theater have guns no one would dare to shoot.
it is about crazy people, not gun control
@Ork58 - Oh dear, I was afraid this would happen. I did say guns were entirely unnecessary, but I know people still want to own them for their own reasons [you solely pointed out protection, but also for hunting and whatnot]. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be able to own them, but it happens all the time that the wrong people are getting them. This shooting made national news, but shootings happen every day all around the world, and they’re not always in the nature of someone trying to protect themselves. Every day, people are being shot out of spite or for no reason at all. While I do realize some people are perfectly competent and capable enough to handle a gun, there are others who are none of those things. I’m going to assume you are a capable person who is competent enough to own a gun. Now if this is the case, even if there were to be more regulation, you would still be able to own a gun. I’m not arguing anything, my opinion simply stands that there should be more preventative actions to keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people. If you want to own a gun, sure, go ahead. But I would hope you are educated on gun safety and without reasonable doubt, a decent person.
Simple argument =/= incorrect argument. And, Dan is right.
a guy shoots up a theater and instead of being empathetic people are over here arguing about gun control. let me tell you, this stuff happens. this guy was very obviously not right in the head. he had a plan to kill people and do you think something minor like guns being illegal would have stopped him??? no. he would have found a way to get guns (even criminals now find a way to illegally obtain guns or to obtain illegal guns) and he would have done it anyways. nothing was going to stop a boy like this. nothing. gun control isn’t the problem.
coming from texas… i support guns in every way possible. like someone above said stupid people kill not the guns themselves. i support everyone having them. if guns are taken away the criminals will still get them, then they would know no one else had them. i think everyone who state allows should get liscenced to carry. my husband carries all the time just in case of something like this (except where guns are not allowed)
Guns don’t cause violence. People do. =/.
@Bobby - you’re confused of what a machine gun or an assault rifle is. yes they’re available to the public but to get one is very hard let alone purchasing one which cost over $15,000 per firearm.
Damn nigga you err heard of image sizing? Google it. But for real just cuz one mahfucker go wild in the theater don’t mean the rest of us can’t have a damn gun. In fact I ain’t think they caught the right guy, I’m like 99.9 certain that the real killer was Kony.
Right. Because im sure he legally acquired that gun, and in no way would he have gotten one otherwise.
He bought the guns legally and ABC news confirmed via his Facebook account that he was a member of the Tea Party. The movie, from what I understand, is pro-Republican/anti-Occupy Wall Street propaganda – LIKE YOUR BLOG DAN!
New Jersey and California have the best gun control laws in the country. The rest of us are bonkers gone mad. What are we so paranoid of??? Probably the fact that in this country money is all that matter and buying weapons of mass destruction legally is about as insane as it gets. Weapons of war are just that and should not be sold to the general population. Colorado has had two incidents of mass murder now..it’s time they see that those kinds of weapons need to be in the hands of professionals. If we all sit back and say oh well then it will happen again and maybe TO YOU! I realize we have a few people to spare with 7 billion on this planet but what kind of idiots are we except ones with dollars for eyeballs to go with idiot IQ. We are the most violent country on the planet screaming JESUS and our GUNS! (somehow this does not equate)
@Bobby - they keep changing the definition of assault weapons…an AR-15 is not an assault rifle. Why would a civilian need one? He might need to defend his family from a home invasion…being better armed than people attacking you is a good thing.
I don’t think the common citizen should be able to have an automatic rifle and anything more than a 15 round magazine.
Why the hell would any common citizen need an automatic rifle and a magazine that holds more than 15 rounds? I might even go so far as to say that semi-automatic rifles and shotguns aren’t needed too. And I enjoy shooting guns.
@QuantumStorm - Actually I wasn’t being cerebral. I was being sarcastic. I’m not going to debate the point. Dan asked a question, I answered, and if that stranger wants to throw a fit over it, well shrug. I wish him well but can’t say I care.
@LadyboyRevolution - LOL you throw a tantrum because a stranger online disagrees with you. I will say that the funniest part is that you mocked my intelligence while using incorrect grammar. Thanks for the chuckle.
@QuantumStorm - I guess I was saying that I’m starting to agree with the point you make. In my original comment I mean. I used to be anti-gun but I’m not sure I still am.
@Ork58 - You are attempting to disprove my point by comparing a machine gun to a car speaker? Really? REALLY??
@aaronmcnees - You need a high powered assault rifle to protect against a home invasion?? Who’s invading, the Soviet army? I think a hand gun works just fine, even a hunting rifle.
@Mr_HaO - To say its ok to have assault weapons available because they are so expensive is bad logic. They are not hard to get, you could travel to a few gun shows and find one easy. Second, $15,000 is not a lot of money. Especially when you can liquidate assets knowing you won’t have a life after the shooting incident.
@EmilyandAtticus - Well issue’s like these get me fired up. I am just an opinionated prick on some things. I love guns so I am passionate about this issue.
@QuantumStorm - No I was being sarcastic prick because I am in favor of guns and self defense. Maybe you misunderstood!
if there were no guns, no one would get hurt. but of course people would be illegally getting their hands on them somehow like drug dealing now.
@LadyboyRevolution - @EmilyandAtticus - So is this one of those situations where you recognized the sarcasm in what I was writing when I referred to your exchange as “cerebral”, and responded with sarcasm of your own, or is this a case where you completely missed the sarcasm and responded seriously?
@QuantumStorm - LOL I think it’s a case in which everybody involved is being sarcastic but not necessarily realizing the others are too.
@QuantumStorm - I just got back from a funeral so yes I missed you point. My fault.
I get what you’re saying, but it’s also clear that relaxed gun control laws allowed this man to obtain all his own weapons in the first place. No one gun would have killed this man who was in head to toe body armor and had four guns.
@LadyboyRevolution - LOL you are very confusing. I thought you were fighting with me but I guess you were agreeing with me and I didn’t get it. Sorry about that!
@EmilyandAtticus - I am a great mixture between a total asshole and a nice guy all in one. I am sorry too
@LadyboyRevolution - No worries, the whole exchange is making me laugh now and making me feel kinda slow!
@EmilyandAtticus - Emotion always trumps logic. But laughter is best emotion.
All of his guns were legally obtained.
I won’t own a firearm. I am an imperfect husband married to an emotional wife.
I have the right to bare arms and I do that daily in my tank tops. Now I wonder how many people will get that one or if I am just to old for anyone else to relate too.
I have a concealed weapons permit and marksman badges. I take classes every year and my gun is locked away. I gave up my gun for a while but after all of the crime against old people here in this city where I live, i got it back. I am full time caregiver to my husband who is 100& disabled and who is living with parkinsons, heart disease and is an insulin dependent diabetic. I will be damned if I will leave him and I defenceless at the hands of the crazies who have guns. So sad what happened in Colorado and due to this insane animal having a gun the higher ups are going to want to pass laws to keep those of us who are responsible gun owners from being able to protect ourselves.
It’s not about gun control. It’s about delusional, unhinged jerk-offs. Until we make an anti-delusional, unhinged jerk-offs law stuff like this will keep happening.
A lot of people get stabbed. You never hear about knife control.
Unless admiring the self-cutting precision of someone else.
“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.” – Jerry Sandusky
@Bobby - No you can’t walk into a gun show and buy an “assault rifle” or “machine gun” you’ve watched too many news stories apparently. It’s not that easy.
@xtinydoll - Aye, but as CS Lewis said, “Education without morals only makes us more cleaver devils.” It would seem he threw off any moral upbringing he might have had.
We need to send dan to canada so he can run wild and free in the movie theaters.
I think it is a sad time to be using satire about this topic. Of course it is not about dialogue here so I don’t expect a response.
@LadyboyRevolution - Kony that nigga errybody was trying to hunt down last year, google that nigga. I’m pretty sure he is the shooter or he put that white kid up to it. But for real yall I woke up and heard “Batman Shooting” and I thought “oh my god these lil Columbine ass mahfuckers done shot Christian Bale.”
Life a trip.
@Mockdonimus_Tuntsweet - now I remember I spent hours reading about him and his groupies one night! Nothing that comes out of Africa surprises me. That country has got to be the king of violence. I think you may be on to something here
And yet not one person at that theatre (you know which one) took a shot back at the guy who shot everyone else. Either they didn’t have pistols or they were as frightened as everyone else.
I know I would’ve been.
So I’m not sure gun control is the answer. Not with how easy it is to buy guns ONLINE now.
Been living in countries where guns are outlawed, and I just don’t get why the Americans are so pent up about having to own a gun to defend oneself. What are you, living in war times? Where bears can come out of nowhere and you’d need to kill lions? Are your backyard filled with uncivilized people that you need to shoot trespassers? How more uncivilized can you be?
Seriously, if guns are outlawed, bad guys are gonna get them harder. Sure they can get them, but they’re getting them now anyway!
And who are you to say that “OH, it’ll be safe if I hold it.” Who’s to say that YOU’RE NOT GONNA ONE DAY GO BERSERK AND START SHOOTING PEOPLE? “I need guns to protect myself from bad people who have guns” HOW IRONIC. HOW CYNICAL. HOW HYPOCRITICAL. Guns were created to DESTROY. Nothing else. It was created to kill. Not defend. If you want to defend yourself, create better communities with better security. Have more cops, guards, trained people. That’s what defending means.
@LadyboyRevolution - Aye tho remember how the Kony guy, Jason Russell went batshit as soon as he lil video dropped??? Yeah, I think he got in the way of the CIA or some shit and they put him on some mind-control shits. Just like this lil whiteboy flipped out in Colorado, completely out of character. Dem Fed niggaz can give you a drug to make you kill anybody or do anything they want…that’s why they is so many unemployed assassins now working for private contractors, the CIA ain’t need they ass…they can take you or me and make us light some niggaz up. I’m just glad they ain’t shot Batman.
“I’m just glad they ain’t shot Batman.” HILARIOUS!
@Mockdonimus_Tuntsweet - like you said with the tricks the CIA now have the “democratic process” is a pipe dream. The citizens are too dumbed down to ever have a chance against that. The mind control experiments have never ended. The politicians must laugh behind closed doors just like good salesmen laugh with each other when they pull a scam.
@Bobby - you obviously don’t know anything about guns or being attacked in the dark…a .223 round is smaller than a deer rifle cartridge and is far safer to shoot in confined quarters. a ‘typical’ home invasion usually involves 3-6 armed strangers breaking in the middle of the dark that will most likely rape your wife and children after killing you…you sure you want to chance that to a wobbly handgun? you ever shot a .45 ACP before? in low light conditions with people shooting back at you? now imagine your wife and kids cowering on the floor, screaming…trust me, you’ll want a rifle that is semi-auto with a decent magazine size… I also recommend hollow point bullets as they say” STOP!” in every language. an AR-15 .223 w/hollow points, 30 rounds per clip…far more effective and safer than any handgun for home defense, also safer to have around kids than a handgun, less likely to accidentally discharge, heavier, etc…shotguns are far too wide spread firing for inside home defense. My family is more important to me than anything else, and as long as I am alive with a weapon in my hand, they will not be taken from me from by vicious animals with no regard for the evil they do to innocent people.
Any so called liberal shouting for gun control at this time is playing right in the hands of the wacko conservative agenda.
I believe that if more people carried guns, licensed of course, the shooter could have been stopped, shot or killed. But then that’s the problem, you never know who is going to go psycho and go on a roaring rampage.
Everyone is running for their lives. Old man Beau could have been strapped and became a hero with his licensed gun. You feel me knockin’????
I won’t own a firearm. I am an imperfect husband married to an emotional wife.
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@sheshe143 - lol Glad you enjoyed it. I would have visited your xanga site, but like me, you are on Friends Lock. So, just happy you liked it. BTW—it is true. lol
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yes I do support gun control…and I think our gun laws need to be tightened up quite a bit.
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I’m prolly more likely to kill than be killed, so I’m with ya.
As long as I am the one in control, guns are jussssst fine.
That’s why my Desert Eagle is always nearby. As if the ghettos ain’t bad enough you have psychopaths having breakdowns in suburbia.
I wouldn’t care as much about my victims being armed as long as I had my own armor on.
I support gun control in that I believe from a young age, everyone should be taught how to properly handle a gun. I’m sorry, but this is just an incident that gets national coverage because people died. It sucks. But don’t chastise and make things worse for those of us with enough common sense to not go shoot up the joint whenever we feel like it. It’s just not fair for those of us who can use good judgement.
The only gun control I support is using both hands.
you should include this video in your post. It’s excellent satire.
Criminals for Gun Control:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsKzdKNAmo
Coming from Wisconsin – I want to be equally armed. Plus, guns don’t kill people – stupid people kill innocent people.
Maybe they need to switch and go to throwing stars. Easier to knock them down them
Whit all these guns around how could this not happen ?…
I do and don’t
Heh, I’ve always supported concealed carry, which is one of the first things I thought of. That situation was so crazy that someone else with a gun may not have been able to do anything, but in most shootings if an intelligent person has a gun they can stop the shootings. It’s even happened before, but of course the media never reports that.
@BebstersBlog2 - the guy who shot the people in the theatre was intelligent…. he was a neuroscience student.
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I don’t know what to think. On the one hand, I’m not sure it would be better to have a bunch of people whip out guns and start shooting, as it would probably have hit more people. On the other hand, that bastard shot so many people, who had no way of defending themselves. I really am not sure what I think about this but the way you put this makes a good point I think.
I prefer bullet control!
Here’s an idea. How about we make this discussion about the 71 victims, including the 12 who have died so far. How about we not make this about how those evil bastards on the right support the NRA and those evil bastards on the left support gun control. How about we just make it about the one lone individual who fired on 71 other individuals and let the facts speak for themselves. Those facts are not political, they are people. Real human beings who don’t give a shit about your views on gun control or whether you are for it or not. All they care about is getting in touch with their loved ones and, perhaps, just surviving these next few days.
So before some of you regulars chime in with how evil the ‘other side’ is, just take a minute and remember who the real victims are.
A few years ago they took twin cities and in one city they took all the guns, in the other city it was required everyone carry a gun. Bet ‘cha can’t guess which city had the crime rate go down. A thug walks into a Stop n Rob grocery. The only two people in the store is the cashier and a little old granny. Now us little old grannies don’t like to put up with some upstart kid in the first place and in the second place many are on fixed incomes and can’t spare losing their cash. Don’t mess with a little old granny with a gun. Every so often a granny fighting for what is hers hits the news. The important thing, as has been pointed out by people that want to outlaw guns, people need to be reviewed for their abilities every few years. Dementia could be dangerous. People need to go to gun ranges and practice, learn the laws and proper handling of the chosen piece, then and only then be licenced to carry one. I have my CHL. If all criteria have been met, I am with Heston, “From my cold dead hands”.
@mommachatter - [citation needed]
Dan. Gun control isn’t about keeping guns from people and preventing self-defense. Its about keeping the most lethal guns out of people’s hands. What use do I have for an assault rifle or machine gun? Seriously, tell me. What use does any civilian have for those? None. There is no practical answer.
I don’t know, for me I had a small collection of weapons but got rid of them once I found out that my girlfriend (now wife) had two small children.
Arguments against gun control are ridiculously simplistic. But then, most of the people making those arguments are conservative, so no surprise there.
I don’t think guns are entirely necessary for anyone. I live about an hour away from where the shooting took place, I was seeing the midnight premier of the same movie in a different place, honestly it shouldn’t have to cross your mind that you might be in the same room as the wrong person with a gun. I think there should be more regulation enforced for people who desire to own a gun.
I totally believe in gun control, I believe that guns are in the control of the people using them and those people should know how to control their guns responsibly and justly.
I think people are missing your satire here…
@FallenSafely - Nah, I fully believe that Dan is a horrifying serial killer/murderer/rapist thingy.
oh lord
not even touching this one
if you need me I’ll be looking at pictures of fluffy kittens
@EmilyandAtticus - don’t worry. Once you become a victim of a crime then you will know “what to think”. It’s called “common sense”. Hey did you know criminals still use drugs??? Seriously they do. Really they do I am not making that up. And the cops may even show up AFTER a crack head rapes your ass.
in a situation like that, I’d run or duck and hide than shoot back and possibly accidentally shoot more innocent people. if the gunman was face to face with me, then I’d want to shoot him like jodie foster shot that creep in the brave one movie, but if I was already pretty far away, I’d keep running. unless I was a huge guy, who can help carry others to safety, which I’m a petite girl, then I’d run like a girl and never look back.
@LadyboyRevolution - Kinda bitchy aren’t ya?
Regardless of the law, active shooter events seem to be happening more and more. Training for such situations is a step that anyone can take. It’s not a guarantee, but it may help ease the panic and get at least someone out of a bad situation. Carrying a lethal weapon won’t help if you’re unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s an insulting and arrogant to think otherwise. In the mean time, anyone have ideas on how to find and stop people from initiating such a crime to begin with?
@EmilyandAtticus - absolutely when it comes to privileged people that don’t use there brains on such simple issue’s.
As a serial killer you might not want to be watched closely as soon as you want to own one, or arrested before you even can kill someone (for illegaly owning a gun).
I’m for more security people in public places, who of course need to be trained too.
@Bobby - Love what you said. The details matter
“As a serial killer” is a good way to start an article. I wonder if anyone caught that.
To be honest, if you’re going to carry a gun for self-defense, then it should only be unholstered when someone pulls out a weapon on you, and if possible, warning shots should be fired. That wouldn’t be the case with the shooting in Colorado, but with the case of Treyvon Martin, an unarmed youth punching you and slamming you around after you chased them down should not be a reason to pull a gun on a person.
Gun control laws really only hurt law-abiding citizens. There’s no way the shooter in Colorado would have had an AR-15 with a full magazine would be able to get a hold of it through legal means if he were in his native Californian state. He obeyed the law, but he was in another state. A more codified enforcement of guns on a national level is what causes debates. Although I prefer gun controls to be regulated from state to state rather than with a national ruling, crossing state lines seems to be a way to mess things up.
I don’t have strong opinions over the matter, but I lean towards different direction on the case.
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Yeah, machine guns aren’t really necessary for civilian use. You shouldn’t really go hunting with something that may ruin the “poached”, and it’s even stupider to give a civilian the ability to squeeze multiple deadly projectiles as self-defense. But whatever, that’s a different topic.
@Its_PapaBear - How about safely and securely storing your firearms, and when girlfriends children are old enough, teaching them about safely handling them, firing them, and the awesome responsbility that goes with it?
@Maverick83 - “Arguments against gun control are
ridiculously simplistic. But then, most of the people making those
arguments are conservative, so no surprise there.”
And liberals who condescendingly look down their noses at the masses from their ivory towers create nothing but contempt and disdain from those masses. If you’d have been in that theatre the other night, you’d have been praying for some CC holder to take the guy out. But no, the theatre has a policy of banning Concealed Carry. So law abiding citizens had to be in there unarmed, and had no chance against a crazy man, in full body armor, shooting helpless people like fish in a barrel.
Instead of dressing like the Joker and releasing teargas to terrify everyone, he could have dressed like a suicide bomber and blown himself up, killed just as many people, and never fired a single round. Where would your contemptuous anti-gun stance be then? At least he’d have saved the taxpayer decades of paying for his imprisonment, and the multitude of hearings, appeals, investigations and lawsuits that will inevitable arise…
@Bobby - a .22 bullet will kill you just as dead as a .38 or a .45. People have many reasons for owning, buying, and selling firearms, including collectibility or investments. Many people buy and sell exotic or unusual firearms and never fire them. For investment grade firearms, they lose value if they HAVE been fired…
What need does the average citizen have for a car stereo with subwoofers and a 1000 watt amplifier? The standard car radio will produce music that you can hear while driving your car. Besides, that loud music can damage your hearing, or distract you while driving, might not hear the train horn or the semi horn bearing down on you.
Same logic applies to the possession and ownership of certain types of firearms.
@brrraaaiiins - Banning or severely restricting a law abiding citizens ability to own, buy or sell a firearm will not stop incidents like this. Remember, the other day 65 million law abiding gun owners killed zero people with their firearms.
What need do you have for a gun? Because evil people who do bad things exist. If we lived in a utopian world, we wouldn’t need firearms. But we don’t. Since the theatre had a concealed carry ban, those people were helpless, like shooting fish in a barrel.
There is already a ton of regulation for possessing a firearm. Try it yourself. Go to the local sporting goods store, and fill out the applications for buying a handgun. You don’t need to buy it, just go through the paperwork, backround checks, fees, applications, etc to buy one, see how easy it is. Even at a gun show, there is a paper trail, instant backround check, applications, fees, showing valid I.D. etc.
And remember, this bonehead could have just as easily dressed like a suicide bomber, shouted “Allaku Akbar” and blown up himself and a dozen others. Happens overseas nearly every day, without pulling a trigger.
Everytime someone misuses a firearm in the commission of a crime, the anti-gunners trot out their “I hate guns” messages, and scream for banning firearms, as if that will ban criminals.
Its like saying a spoon is the reason you are fat.
Lots of people with guns = high possibility of accidentily shooting each other even without a serial killer.
@Ork58 - I could have taught them gun safety and all the responsibility that come with it but they were just too young and too curious to have around to take that chance. So I chose this way. Now that they are older and moved out, I may get back into them, I don’t know.
@LadyboyRevolution - @EmilyandAtticus - While observing this delightful and cerebral exchange, I cannot help but point out that the police are not necessarily required to assist you, should you call 911. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
So if you would like to place your faith in law enforcement, feel free. But if you ask me, it’s nice having a backup. Be it a sword, a gun, etc.
Oh I’m so with you! I don’t want my victims to be able retaliate either!
God! How am I supposed to enjoy my hobby if they kill me first?!
One has to ignore the violent crime statistics of every country with gun control to make the fucking retarded and paranoid “If I don’t have a gun somebody’s gonna kill me” statement. “If guns were outlawed, only outlaws would have guns,” isn’t even an argument – it’s a ridiculous word game. “If postage stamps were outlawed, only outlaws would have postage stamps” is equally true. And don’t throw instances of isolated whack-jobs, like the Norway rampage last summer, at me either. Aside from the fact a bunch of kids at summer camp aren’t going to have guns (unless it’s in Texas, where killing people is a state-mandated pastime), if the only argument a person has is an isolated and extreme case, that’s an argument for having no real argument. If that’s how we make legislation, we need to outlaw Beatles music, since Charles Manson decided they were telling him to slaughter people.
one can make the reverse argument: if everyone in the theater have guns no one would dare to shoot.
it is about crazy people, not gun control
@Ork58 - Oh dear, I was afraid this would happen. I did say guns were entirely unnecessary, but I know people still want to own them for their own reasons [you solely pointed out protection, but also for hunting and whatnot]. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be able to own them, but it happens all the time that the wrong people are getting them. This shooting made national news, but shootings happen every day all around the world, and they’re not always in the nature of someone trying to protect themselves. Every day, people are being shot out of spite or for no reason at all. While I do realize some people are perfectly competent and capable enough to handle a gun, there are others who are none of those things. I’m going to assume you are a capable person who is competent enough to own a gun. Now if this is the case, even if there were to be more regulation, you would still be able to own a gun. I’m not arguing anything, my opinion simply stands that there should be more preventative actions to keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people. If you want to own a gun, sure, go ahead. But I would hope you are educated on gun safety and without reasonable doubt, a decent person.
Simple argument =/= incorrect argument. And, Dan is right.
a guy shoots up a theater and instead of being empathetic people are over here arguing about gun control. let me tell you, this stuff happens. this guy was very obviously not right in the head. he had a plan to kill people and do you think something minor like guns being illegal would have stopped him??? no. he would have found a way to get guns (even criminals now find a way to illegally obtain guns or to obtain illegal guns) and he would have done it anyways. nothing was going to stop a boy like this. nothing. gun control isn’t the problem.
coming from texas… i support guns in every way possible. like someone above said stupid people kill not the guns themselves. i support everyone having them. if guns are taken away the criminals will still get them, then they would know no one else had them. i think everyone who state allows should get liscenced to carry. my husband carries all the time just in case of something like this (except where guns are not allowed)
Guns don’t cause violence. People do. =/.
@Bobby - you’re confused of what a machine gun or an assault rifle is. yes they’re available to the public but to get one is very hard let alone purchasing one which cost over $15,000 per firearm.
Damn nigga you err heard of image sizing?
Google it.
But for real just cuz one mahfucker go wild in the theater don’t mean the rest of us
can’t have a damn gun. In fact I ain’t think they caught the right guy, I’m like 99.9 certain that the real
killer was Kony.
Right. Because im sure he legally acquired that gun, and in no way would he have gotten one otherwise.
He bought the guns legally and ABC news confirmed via his Facebook account that he was a member of the Tea Party. The movie, from what I understand, is pro-Republican/anti-Occupy Wall Street propaganda – LIKE YOUR BLOG DAN!
New Jersey and California have the best gun control laws in the country. The rest of us are bonkers gone mad. What are we so paranoid of??? Probably the fact that in this country money is all that matter and buying weapons of mass destruction legally is about as insane as it gets. Weapons of war are just that and should not be sold to the general population. Colorado has had two incidents of mass
murder now..it’s time they see that those kinds of weapons need to be in
the hands of professionals. If we all sit back and say oh well then it
will happen again and maybe TO YOU! I realize we have a few people to
spare with 7 billion on this planet but what kind of idiots are we
except ones with dollars for eyeballs to go with idiot IQ. We are the
most violent country on the planet screaming JESUS and our GUNS!
(somehow this does not equate)
@Bobby - they keep changing the definition of assault weapons…an AR-15 is not an assault rifle.
Why would a civilian need one? He might need to defend his family from a home invasion…being better armed than people attacking you is a good thing.
I don’t think the common citizen should be able to have an automatic rifle and anything more than a 15 round magazine.
Why the hell would any common citizen need an automatic rifle and a magazine that holds more than 15 rounds? I might even go so far as to say that semi-automatic rifles and shotguns aren’t needed too. And I enjoy shooting guns.
@QuantumStorm - Actually I wasn’t being cerebral. I was being sarcastic. I’m not going to debate the point. Dan asked a question, I answered, and if that stranger wants to throw a fit over it, well shrug. I wish him well but can’t say I care.
@LadyboyRevolution - LOL you throw a tantrum because a stranger online disagrees with you. I will say that the funniest part is that you mocked my intelligence while using incorrect grammar. Thanks for the chuckle.
@QuantumStorm - I guess I was saying that I’m starting to agree with the point you make. In my original comment I mean. I used to be anti-gun but I’m not sure I still am.
@Ork58 - You are attempting to disprove my point by comparing a machine gun to a car speaker? Really? REALLY??
@aaronmcnees - You need a high powered assault rifle to protect against a home invasion?? Who’s invading, the Soviet army? I think a hand gun works just fine, even a hunting rifle.
@Mr_HaO - To say its ok to have assault weapons available because they are so expensive is bad logic. They are not hard to get, you could travel to a few gun shows and find one easy. Second, $15,000 is not a lot of money. Especially when you can liquidate assets knowing you won’t have a life after the shooting incident.
@EmilyandAtticus - Well issue’s like these get me fired up. I am just an opinionated prick on some things. I love guns so I am passionate about this issue.
@QuantumStorm - No I was being sarcastic prick because I am in favor of guns and self defense. Maybe you misunderstood!
@Mockdonimus_Tuntsweet - your right about the guns. Who is Koney???
I do.
if there were no guns, no one would get hurt. but of course people would be illegally getting their hands on them somehow like drug dealing now.
@LadyboyRevolution - @EmilyandAtticus - So is this one of those situations where you recognized the sarcasm in what I was writing when I referred to your exchange as “cerebral”, and responded with sarcasm of your own, or is this a case where you completely missed the sarcasm and responded seriously?
@QuantumStorm - LOL I think it’s a case in which everybody involved is being sarcastic but not necessarily realizing the others are too.
@QuantumStorm - I just got back from a funeral so yes I missed you point. My fault.
I get what you’re saying, but it’s also clear that relaxed gun control laws allowed this man to obtain all his own weapons in the first place. No one gun would have killed this man who was in head to toe body armor and had four guns.
@LadyboyRevolution - LOL you are very confusing. I thought you were fighting with me but I guess you were agreeing with me and I didn’t get it. Sorry about that!
@EmilyandAtticus - I am a great mixture between a total asshole and a nice guy all in one. I am sorry too
@LadyboyRevolution - No worries, the whole exchange is making me laugh now and making me feel kinda slow!
@EmilyandAtticus - Emotion always trumps logic. But laughter is best emotion.
All of his guns were legally obtained.
I won’t own a firearm. I am an imperfect husband married to an emotional wife.
I have the right to bare arms and I do that daily in my tank tops. Now I wonder how many people will get that one or if I am just to old for anyone else to relate too.
I have a concealed weapons permit and marksman badges. I take classes every year and my gun is locked away. I gave up my gun for a while but after all of the crime against old people here in this city where I live, i got it back.
I am full time caregiver to my husband who is 100& disabled and who is living with parkinsons, heart disease and is an insulin dependent diabetic. I will be damned if I will leave him and I defenceless at the hands of the crazies who have guns.
So sad what happened in Colorado and due to this insane animal having a gun the higher ups are going to want to pass laws to keep those of us who are responsible gun owners from being able to protect ourselves.
It’s not about gun control. It’s about delusional, unhinged jerk-offs. Until we make an anti-delusional, unhinged jerk-offs law stuff like this will keep happening.
A lot of people get stabbed. You never hear about knife control.
Unless admiring the self-cutting precision of someone else.
“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.” – Jerry Sandusky
@Bobby - No you can’t walk into a gun show and buy an “assault rifle” or “machine gun” you’ve watched too many news stories apparently. It’s not that easy.
@xtinydoll - Aye, but as CS Lewis said, “Education without morals only makes us more cleaver devils.”
It would seem he threw off any moral upbringing he might have had.
We need to send dan to canada so he can run wild and free in the movie theaters.
I think it is a sad time to be using satire about this topic. Of course it is not about dialogue here so I don’t expect a response.
@LadyboyRevolution - Kony that nigga errybody was trying to hunt down last year, google that nigga. I’m pretty sure he is the shooter or he put that white kid up to it. But for real yall I woke up and heard “Batman Shooting” and I thought “oh my god these lil Columbine ass mahfuckers done shot Christian Bale.”
Life a trip.
@Mockdonimus_Tuntsweet - now I remember I spent hours reading about him and his groupies one night! Nothing that comes out of Africa surprises me. That country has got to be the king of violence. I think you may be on to something here
And yet not one person at that theatre (you know which one) took a shot back at the guy who shot everyone else. Either they didn’t have pistols or they were as frightened as everyone else.
I know I would’ve been.
So I’m not sure gun control is the answer. Not with how easy it is to buy guns ONLINE now.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php
Been living in countries where guns are outlawed, and I just don’t get why the Americans are so pent up about having to own a gun to defend oneself. What are you, living in war times? Where bears can come out of nowhere and you’d need to kill lions? Are your backyard filled with uncivilized people that you need to shoot trespassers? How more uncivilized can you be?
Seriously, if guns are outlawed, bad guys are gonna get them harder. Sure they can get them, but they’re getting them now anyway!
And who are you to say that “OH, it’ll be safe if I hold it.” Who’s to say that YOU’RE NOT GONNA ONE DAY GO BERSERK AND START SHOOTING PEOPLE?
“I need guns to protect myself from bad people who have guns” HOW IRONIC. HOW CYNICAL. HOW HYPOCRITICAL.
Guns were created to DESTROY. Nothing else. It was created to kill. Not defend.
If you want to defend yourself, create better communities with better security. Have more cops, guards, trained people. That’s what defending means.
@LadyboyRevolution - Aye tho remember how the Kony guy, Jason Russell went batshit as soon as he lil video dropped??? Yeah, I think he got in the way of the CIA or some shit and they put him on some mind-control shits. Just like this lil whiteboy flipped out in Colorado, completely out of character. Dem Fed niggaz can give you a drug to make you kill anybody or do anything they want…that’s why they is so many unemployed assassins now working for private contractors, the CIA ain’t need they ass…they can take you or me and make us light some niggaz up. I’m just glad they ain’t shot Batman.
@Mockdonimus_Tuntsweet -
“I’m just glad they ain’t shot Batman.”
HILARIOUS!
@Mockdonimus_Tuntsweet - like you said with the tricks the CIA now have the “democratic process” is a pipe dream. The citizens are too dumbed down to ever have a chance against that. The mind control experiments have never ended. The politicians must laugh behind closed doors just like good salesmen laugh with each other when they pull a scam.
@Bobby - you obviously don’t know anything about guns or being attacked in the dark…a .223 round is smaller than a deer rifle cartridge and is far safer to shoot in confined quarters. a ‘typical’ home invasion usually involves 3-6 armed strangers breaking in the middle of the dark that will most likely rape your wife and children after killing you…you sure you want to chance that to a wobbly handgun? you ever shot a .45 ACP before? in low light conditions with people shooting back at you? now imagine your wife and kids cowering on the floor, screaming…trust me, you’ll want a rifle that is semi-auto with a decent magazine size… I also recommend hollow point bullets as they say” STOP!” in every language.
an AR-15 .223 w/hollow points, 30 rounds per clip…far more effective and safer than any handgun for home defense, also safer to have around kids than a handgun, less likely to accidentally discharge, heavier, etc…shotguns are far too wide spread firing for inside home defense.
My family is more important to me than anything else, and as long as I am alive with a weapon in my hand, they will not be taken from me from by vicious animals with no regard for the evil they do to innocent people.
Any so called liberal shouting for gun control at this time is playing right in the hands of the wacko conservative agenda.
I believe that if more people carried guns, licensed of course, the shooter could have been stopped, shot or killed. But then that’s the problem, you never know who is going to go psycho and go on a roaring rampage.
Everyone is running for their lives. Old man Beau could have been strapped and became a hero with his licensed gun. You feel me knockin’????
@ANVRSADDAY -
I won’t own a firearm. I am an imperfect husband married to an emotional wife.
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@sheshe143 - lol Glad you enjoyed it. I would have visited your xanga site, but like me, you are on Friends Lock. So, just happy you liked it. BTW—it is true. lol
frank
yes I do support gun control…and I think our gun laws need to be tightened up quite a bit.