The University of Colorado has put out a memo that will help women to avoid rape.
The school suggested to women that if a man attempts to rape them, they should vomit, urinate are tell the man they are menstruating. Here is the link:
LinkA lawmaker in Colorado suggested that instead of using a gun, women should use a whistle to avoid rape. Here is the link:
Link1. Vomiting
2. Urinating
3. Telling him you are menstruating
4. Blowing Whistle
5. Gun
Which do you think will best help a woman avoid rape?
The school suggested to women that if a man attempts to rape them, they should vomit, urinate are tell the man they are menstruating. Here is the link: LinkA lawmaker in Colorado suggested that instead of using a gun, women should use a whistle to avoid rape. Here is the link: Link1. Vomiting2. Urinating3. Telling him you are menstruating4. Blowing Whistle5. GunWhich do you think will best help a woman avoid rape?
Comments (152)
A swift kick in the balls would be my first choice.
You never know what kind of fetish the guy might have. I would go with the gun to be safe.
Oh man. Boulder (CU) sucks.
Yea, guys are super afraid of my rape whistle. I will bust their eardrums wide open. Sends em running every time.
My mom always told me to go for the eyes. Also, pepper spray.
Funnily enough I don’t think number 3 will stop many guys.
It’s hard to say. I could say a good plan is, if you’re ever walking by yourself in a secluded area and/or late at night, it’s a good idea to talk to someone on the phone. If you fear someone is following you, clearly state that “you’re just round the corner” and that “you’ll be home soon.” I did this once and the man walking behind me crossed the road and walked the opposite direction.
The sad thing is, more than half of rapists know their victims. They’re friends, boyfriends, ex-boyfriends, husbands, even family. It’s so sick, and so incredibly sad. So what are Colorado going to say now? Don’t meet someone and get familiar with a rapist? Watch out for their rapist badge? The sticker on their forehead?
@Jenny_Wren - A swift kick in the balls might work also
Vomit, urine, and menstrual discharge – my top three fetishes.
Or… Crazy idea, but just hear me out… WE COULD TEACH GUYS HOW FUCKED UP IT IS TO BE A WOMAN AND GET RAPED.
Obviously, the gun. But, that only works if you actually know how to use it, AND you actually WILL use it if need be. Otherwise, it could be worse if he takes it away. Which is why, like with sex and drugs, what we actually NEED to do, is EDUCATE EDUCATE EDUCATE, instead of being afraid and pretending we can make it disappear. I don’t understand why this logic is so lost on so many.
a fucking gun what the fuck
I think that doing a meme version of the harlem shake should be at the top of this list.
Never walk alone on campus or much anywhere in this society.
Men should be in straight jackets all the time…
Better yet, just preemptively kill everyone.
My switchblade.
Any and all available resources. I personally don’t know any women who carry around a whistle. That’s just stupid. I just try not to be alone with a man, or men. But that doesn’t always stop them…
LOL, at least this is creative. Yeah, I would go with self-defense or a gun first. That or just bite it off.
I always thought saying you have aids might work. It didn’t work for me but I didn’t think to try it, you’d be surprised what you’ll forget when backed against a 2-3 story high balcony…
Isn’t it up to the rapists not to rape, not up to the woman to not be raped? Did they give people instructions for how not to be murdered too? Scary that’s at a university.
i mean…… at least you know a gun will 100% work.
I always told myself that if I got raped the first thing out of my mouth would be “I have AIDS and I’m legally obligated to tell you,” or “I have Herpes” or something permanent. LOL
Having been through it, I’d say never ever be alone at any time or be trained in self defense. That being said, if they have it in their mind to do harm none of the above will stop them unless you can take the upper hand…
Haha i’d pick a gun haha or give the guy a good punch in the throat and then the balls haha either way it should work!
Mace em good. Not with pepper spray, but using an actual mace.
my lady psych professor told us (mostly the girls, i’m a guy) to soil yourself. rape isn’t really about the pleasure, it’s about the feeling of dominance over another person. so statistically, rapists aren’t as likely to be about fetishes.
How to avoid rape? Teach our sons and nephews and cousins it’s not okay. That it’s not girls that need to prevent it. It’s guys.
i think men need to stop thinking this sort of behavior is acceptable.
well, you can’t ask women to take initiative in securing their own safety. that’s called victim blaming. the answer, Dan, is to make sure to punish the men who have never and would never rape or even hurt a woman. make sure that a man’s character is never considered when rewarding him emotionally, socially, financially etc. but rather look at whether or not he is muscular, wealthy, “talented”, famous, etc.
make sure that women know that it makes perfect logical sense to buy the albums of men who sing about wanting to hurt and degrade women, listen to the music and hang out with men who also fill their minds with that and expect that nothing bad could ever come of it.
let’s take Stevie Wonder’s recent speaking out about “Lil Wayne’s” lyrics in one of his latest songs.
Known for his sexual lyrics, Wayne compares rough sex to Till’s death, indicating “that he wanted to do as much damage as had been done to Till,” reports thegrio.com.
but is he upset that Lil finds sexual gratification in degrading, demeaning, dehumanizing, and hurting women? no.. he’s upset about the fact that Wayney brought Emmit Till into it.
sorry, like it or not, we live in a society that glorifies rapists and rape, they just don’t call it that when it’s entertainment. men have a responsibility to see women, and treat them as human beings worthy of respect, but women also have a responsibility to be seen with respect; that is to say, if you choose to hang out and put time and energy into relationships with a group of guys who talk about you like a sex toy and constantly post publicly innuendo’s about you giving head or performing other sex acts or all the bits of you they’ve seen, whether any of that has happened or not.. you aren’t cultivating respect, you’re sexually objectifying yourself.
people have a right to make whatever decisions they want to make.. but it’s idiotic to then be shocked at the consequences of those decisions and actions. just like i won’t be a bit surprised at all the hateful replies i will get to this comment.
If you have to fight, most likely you have already missed something that would have prevented it in the first place.
Please stop acting like everyone that carries a gun will use it effectively. Even professional soldiers freeze up and can’t fire. Unless you have actually tried to hurt someone, don’t assume you will be able to do it without hesitation. That line of thinking is dangerous.
@iones_island - ”well, you can’t ask women to take initiative in securing their own safety. that’s called victim blaming.”
I just wrote a rambling rant about that on my blog. It’s okay to ask people to take initiative to secure their own safety in other crimes, but not in sexual assault. Never sexual assault. That’s just wrong apparently.
Wow,
Unbelievably STUPID people here.
“Kick him in the balls”. Small target, pretty well protected. And now he KNOWS you tried to hurt him. My guess is rape will no longer be the only thing on his mind. Now he will have extra incentive to hurt you WORSE.
Not my opinion kids…my Sensei. He was amused as HELL when women offered the “kick him in the balls” strategy. He knew too many women who tried.
Oh and the gun thing? Only if you shoot HIM., If he happens to get the gun,you’ll probably die.
Actually, one poster had it right…we should be teaching people NOT to rape…
First of all, the lawmaker’s point was to say that allowing guns on campuses would result in chaos and trigger-happy incidents. Of course his words were poorly chosen, but he had the right intentions. Let’s not jump to conclusions without first reading the transcripts.
Second of all, we need to take the onus off of women having to shoulder the responsibility of avoiding rape on their own. We need to educate our population and raise men and women who know full well that rape is wrong. The discussion needs to pan out from the 1 out of 5 women who are sexually assaulted in their lifetimes to the whole of society instead. Who are all of these men going around thinking it is all right to rape women? Who are their friends, their family? Who are the people they look up to? We need to focus our efforts on open discussion and education, teaching every person to respect every women’s right to be able to walk down a street everywhere and anywhere and feel safe. Until that day comes, our job will never be done.
@thefittedsheet - If most rapes are done by acquaintances, friends, or relatives, what are the odds you will have a gun withint arms reach at all times? Most people I know don’t carry 24/7…
Hey, optimists: telling people not to rape will not stop rape. If you believe that’s all anyone needs to do, you’re fooling yourself. Do you really think that NO rapists has been taught not to do it? We don’t live in a perfect world!
Telling people to do good things will not stop bad things. It should be done, yes, certainly; but that will never stop the problem.
Who says that upsetting your attacker is wise?
I mean, bringing urine to a pissing contest is one thing, but hurling on a rapist might earn a most miserable death by beating.
Annie, go get your gun and blast the hinky bastard to kingdom come. It’s the only way to be sure.
@snarkius - the question was “Which do you think will best help a woman avoid rape?”
are you saying that urinating or vomiting on a rapist is a better option than using a gun? if i had a gun, i would probably use that first.
not saying that a gun is the most available choice for most people, but that’s a whole different barrel, haha.
OK I will blow the whistle after I shoot the bastard . That is not bad advice at all
@Wait_by_Moonlight -good advice but that takes 15 years or so to help. In the mean time ?
Teaching boys not to rape, and actually punishing those who do. It’s so easy to get away with, and many men don’t seem to understand that you don’t have to be a stranger in a back alley to commit rape.
It’s so often someone the victim knows. Who is going to be carrying around a can of pepper spray or a gun when they’re just watching a movie or pulling weeds?
Weird. I don’t think any of those things would really help as much as a gun would.. but like someone above said, you need to know how to use it
Well, I’ve heard of at least one woman where the urinating thing worked… there was a show on TV where a woman was interviewed, a guy had attempted to rape her (this was on a college campus) and she ended up peeing on him, and he took off. So… could be!
It’s sad that rape prevention is all on the woman’s shoulders. We need to teach “Don’t rape” in addition to “Don’t get raped”.
You use the gun to blow his brains out which will cause him to be vomiting and urinating. You then kindly tell him to burn in hell.
Seriously?! The first three options are useless because rapists are desperate sex-crazed men. Knowing how hard it is to stop a horny man, I don’t think any of these can be anything except for a short setback. In fact, they can always go at it the hard way from the rear, which is even worse. I think the government should inflict heavier punishments and provide women with self-defense classes at low prices or for free.
As far as I know, there’s three types of rapist.
1). The Sneak Attacker (where the victim doesn’t know what hit ‘em).
2.) The Spy (the bastards who slips GHB into a drink like a secret agent).
3.) Infantry (the knife/gun point scenario).
I suggest lessons in Krav Maga. It’s always a safe bet because it covers things like being grabbed from behind, defending against a knife point/gun, multiple attackers, etc. It’s self defense, but the major difference is that it’s hardcore—doesn’t feel like choreography. Of course, things like mace are good to have in your arsenal. I’m sure it’s hard to do anything with mace in your eyes.
There’s no guarantee that you’ll be able to say anything to someone trying to rape you. There’s no guarantee you’ll have time to make yourself vomit and urinate. Hell, he might like that shit. You never know. He’s not counting on getting his ass kicked, that much you do know.
@Jack_Hawksmoor - No, Krav Maga is not always a safe bet because it entirely depends on how you are taught. Any martial art can be effective if you are taught properly; any martial art will be more dangerous to you if you are taught ineffectively. I am not saying it is ineffective. It is just that it is frustrating to see people jump into some random martial art because they hear it is effective without actually realizing if the instructor is competent at teaching or even competent in what he teaches.
Actually, just reading your (self-admitted limited knowledge of rapists) categorization of rapists really explains why you think krav maga is a good bet.
@thefittedsheet - I was referring to your one hundred percent comment not whether or not it was the most effective weapon. In all honestly, all of those are poor choices, but I can understand why you picked the gun if you had to pick just one from the list. The best way to avoid being raped on a college campus is avoiding alcohol considering the majority of college rapes involve alocohol. Like all prevention methods, it is not one hundred percent effective but it is (in my opinion) the easier and more effective way than the listed options,
What would stop rape is telling men that THEY are the ones who need to stop raping!!!!
@TheGuyYouD0ntKnow - i think this only addresses one aspect of the issue; rape can happen in so many different forms that sometimes people may not be able to identify it at first or refuse to acknowledge the act as rape. rapists aren’t always scary men in dark alleys – they can be strangers, but they can also be classmates, friends, boyfriends, husbands, etc. (and of course, men can be raped as well). We have built such a culture around rape that it is often not considered as “bad” or significant as it should be, and there are many examples of this. But teaching people about rape and the different forms it can take and involving men in the conversation should be a start to addressing it.
Shot him between the legs with a stun gun and run
I used to think that we could easily solve the problem by “teaching boys not to rape”, but the problem I’ve begun to have with the “teaching boys not to rape” concept is that it implies that boys are naturally inclined towards rape, and that we must teach them to “not rape”. That is just fatuous thinking, especially when you consider that the vast, vast majority of men do not rape. It would be like saying that teaching all Christians not to protest the funerals of dead soldiers with “God hates fags” signs is a way to reduce the chances of the WBC doing that at a funeral. (and of course “teaching boys not to rape” completely ignores the fact that there are female rapists, but that’s another story altogether)
Of course, that doesn’t mean the rapists are not responsible for their own actions. What it means, though, is that we need to examine the genesis of the behaviors and mindsets that contribute to rape, and remedy those issues.
We need to educate boys. It’s done in other countries so why cant’ we do it here? The whole “boys will be boys” attitude is effed up. Parents and teachers who let that attitude slide are a part of the problem. It’s called enabling.
punch him in the penis or testes
Well, first I would start by asking if they’d ever read the Book of Mormon…
I have an acountabil-i-buddy so I don’t have to worry about rape
But a gun would probably deter most rapists.
every woman should be issued a gun
@EmilyandAtticus -uh…yeah they do…its called SELF DEFENSE. You can’t teach people not to murder and rape because its all psychological. As a society people already know murder and rape are bad things…there are just some fucked up people in this world. This is about people taking control of the situation.
“Men should be in straight jackets all the time… “
Wow. Tell me how that is not every bit as disgusting as saying ‘all women should be in burquas all the time’? Seriously? What the hell is wrong with you?
“Isn’t it up to the rapists not to rape, not up to the woman to not be raped? Did they give people instructions for how not to be murdered too? Scary that’s at a university.” & similar responses…
Really? You can’t go out and fix all the rapists and murderers. All you can do is control yourself. So yes, give people instructions for avoiding getting murdered, by all means, if it is a significant enough problem to be concerned about. Duh. I don’t understand people that don’t appreciate the pragmatic response given above. If it is effective, and I’d imagine it is (definitely a good idea to throw the word AIDS out there, by the way, hat tip to whoever mentioned that), then by all means teach it. Every one of those would work on me.
I wonder if going limp would be effective. Like, playing dead. I know I’d find that incredibly unsexy, and I’m sure most rapists are turned on by the struggle. Vomit and piss, though, that should definitely do it.
In a different direction… What about chastity belts? Just hide a key in your stuff and a key at your place. I mean, if we’re talking about kinks here…
Then there’s the victorian style shredding condoms you can place inside yourself that will lock onto the penis and be excruciating.
And yes, a gun is definitely wise for this kind of scenario. Guns are a huge crime deterrent; even if you don’t use it to shoot, but scare him off with it, it is very likely he will think twice before attempting rape again.
@Spookyandbatty - They went too far. I’m not sure why you responded to me with all caps but you are entitled to your opinions as I am.
I knew of a girl once who was accosted in the parking lot of a bar……..she grinned at the guy and told him SHE was going to rape HIM………he freaked out and ran off…….
@Losertastic - You are correct. But the fact remains, and will always remain, that some people like to do bad things and there is nothing we can do to stop that. Saying “teach men not to rape” is like saying “teach people not to rob banks.” We do. Does that stop people from robbing banks? Nope. Never will. Humans don’t like to listen. Yes, we should by all means make it an effort to encourage people not to be rapists. But then again, we should be teaching people to make good decisions in everything. Your statement about rape happening “in so many different forms” is exactly why everyone needs to be more cautious. It will always be a threat and you need to protect yourself. It doesn’t even apply just for rape. You always need to protect yourself. But for some reason, when it comes to rape these days people have this fantasy where people will stop doing it.
attacking the groin is the first place a guy would defend himself. he expects it and would be quick to neutralize the attack.
if you have to, let the guy whip it out. when it is exposed, get a hand on it and squeeze it and pull on it as hard as you can. that should leave him in a world of hurt for a long time to come.
other self-defense tips include keeping your car keys in your hand, ready to rake the eyes when the guy is close enough.
a gun, however, is great. it will keep the guy a certain distance away if he is smart. if he takes that one step you don’t like, shoot him in the kneecap, then call the cops on cellphone. you want to be the one to call 911 and make the report. it looks better that way.
Wouldn’t most of those suggestions just make the rapist angry, which would be worse. But hm, I dont really know.
Learn everything and avoid everything….aahh my perfect world.
Kick him in the balls, and while he’s down, shoot him to ensure he doesn’t get back up!
Darn it, I wish I would have thought of some of those when I went through it.
A gun.
some might use a Samurai.. LOL
. . . from a friend’s experience who had undergone “defense” training was found that nothing worked until she said, “They can see you.” She had kicked, scratched, yelled “fire” and all the rest and was about to give in to this armed guy when her intuition kicked in and she came up with the they can see you warning. He stopped what he was attempting, was seen when he leaving and shortly thereafter caught. This happened in Chicago while she was near home and on her morning jog.
A well-trained individual with a gun is your best bet if you want to STOP the assault before it even begins.
A Gun and/or applying what I learned in my martial arts class.
If I have a gun, am I allowed to hold him at gunpoint and rape him with a broomstick?
I don’t know anybody who can vomit on cue. If I had to pick one of those, I’d go with the gun. Being shot is a great crime deterrent. Since not everybody carries a gun, I think the best defense is to go for the groin and the eyes, and make a LOT of noise.
I’ve her for women to wear a whistle as a bracelet. Also never to wear there hair in a pony tail so they can’t grab then as easily. I’ve also heard that if your in an elevator make direct eye contact and ask them the time so they know you’ve Got an Id and know their face. Who knows how much this helps but I think try anything to get out of the situation you’re in and never let them take you to the 2nd destination
@TheGuyYouD0ntKnow - I don’t think you’re wrong in saying that some people are bad and we should protect ourselves, but the fact of the matter is that we don’t try as hard to talk to men about rape. Rape is always seen as a “women’s issue”; we are the ones told not to wear certain things or go out alone at a certain time in the night or drink too much at a party or whatever. Men don’t have to worry about these things. We should be shifting the focus to telling men that no matter what a girl is wearing or how much she has had to drink, you have no right to take advantage of her. The “asking for it” mentality is still widely prevalent in our society, and that makes it hard for rape to stop. Being at school has really opened up my eyes to how things can go so wrong so quickly; I’ve heard the stories of so many girls getting taken advantage of by guys at parties, where the mentality seems to be that anything goes. On a certain subconscious level, it feels as though men think they have a right to sex with women even if the women don’t want to. At least, this is what I can say based on my personal experiences.
@Wait_by_Moonlight -
True, people need to be taught how unacceptable raping someone is. Though that’s not done enough, it also isn’t mutually exclusive from educating people about sexual assault, how it’s most likely, or how to protect themselves either (though sensibly, not with these suggestions). There are always going to be some maniacs out there who learn right from wrong and still will do wrong, so teaching alone won’t save people.
It’s sad we’re still teaching women how to avoid rape, when we should be teaching men how NOT to rape.
honestly, i doubt any of those would do much good except for the gun. rape isn’t always about sex: it’s about control. usually if someone is determined enough to force sex on another person, it’s not just because he/she is horny, and it’s probably gonna take a lot more than pee or blood to deter that determination.
i’ll take an actual weapon, thanks.
the fact of the matter is, no matter how much we try to “teach” people not to rape, good people and bad people are still going to exist. it is pretty sad that all the responsibility seems to be placed on women to protect themselves, but, that’s the reality here. there are a lot of horrible people in the world, men and women. telling them to not do horrible things isn’t going to magically make them stop.
Poke their eyes out. I see a lot of talk about mashing the nuts, but if you blind them then they can’t do anything. Also, if you miss their nuts or don’t hit them full on then they can still get you.
I think most of these are how to avoid “date rape” which has just as much damages as any other rape. But sometimes carried out by frat boys for initiation rights these days. They’re not always violent psychopaths jumping ouf of bushes doing these rapes. If a guy got you alone at a party and you puked on him, he may get up and walk away.
@FallenSafely - That’s a foolish comment. Rape is already criminalized and illegal. What do you mean by “teach men not to rape”? Most men don’t rape, just like most people don’t rob gas stations or engage in murder. All of those things are already illegal and generally recognized as unacceptable behaviors. There is no way you can 100% gaurantee the good behavior of everyone else around you, the best you can do is prepare yourself against their bad behavior. You can stop any rapist with one bullet through the head. The point that people are trying to make with entries like this is that there is a reason why we have the 2nd ammendment and should be allowed to carry guns. Disarming law abiding citizens creates victims.
A gun. But wouldn’t a combination of all of them work the best?
Or a knife and pepper spray so you can blind him, and if he still resists, stab him. (I try to do this one because I don’t like to get robbed)
All I can think of is the mom from Arrested Development. “First I blow them, then I poke them.” Talking about her air horn and her fire poker.
@TiredSoVeryTired - HOW ABOUT DRESSING UP DECENTLY FOR A CHANGE SO THAT YOU DON’T ATTRACT RAPISTS INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE ENTIRE SOCIETY IN STRAIGHT JACKETS?
Cut off the penis of every man convicted of rape. That should serve as a good deterrent.
Are you serious? Avoiding rape? The better solution would be teaching men not to do the raping.
Bear mace.
I know a 100% way to prevent all rape in the US. everyone in the US, just don’t rape anyone.
This is so stupid. I know it’s true, and I’m not saying you are stupid. But my first choice would be biting or scratching. Evidence for when you tell the cops. Or rip off a piece of clothing.
I watch SVU a lot!!!
Chopping his cock off?
Teach men not to r*pe?????? What a bunch of maroons. Evil people will do evil things. I’ve never been taught not to r*pe yet I’ve never even r*ped one person — not even by accident!!
One option you forgot to mention was the “designated safe zones”. Seriously, it’s a thing. Like it’s a game of freaking tag. ”I’m on ‘safe’, sucker! Better luck next time.”
most of the comments i see refer to “trimming the branches” of the problem. any of those ideas might work. but yet, the tree of rape still stands. a few comments hit the truth and would begin to tear the tree out by its roots – educate males about the truth of the terror of rape.
i am sorry in my heart to say this, but rape and the full, non-watered down details of the experience a girl goes through should be taught at schools at an early age. i would hope parents would also say more to their kids on the subject as well. respecting a woman is a jewel in the crown of being a man. it (the talk) can be a positive thing instead of a “don’t do this….”
@Losertastic - “Men don’t have to worry about these things.”
Bullshit.
When it comes to dealing with assault, men are more likely to be assaulted at night than women are. As for rape, maybe not so much in that way, but men have to deal with that too, and they enjoy additional marginalization by people who dismiss the idea that men can be victims.
You are right about one thing, though: rape is typically seen as a woman’s issue, because most male victims are ignored. (or, as in the case of female-on-male rapes, they’re told they should be “lucky” that a woman would do that to them.)
And teaching men not to rape? That’s like saying men are natural rapists and we have to teach them “not” to do something. The key is figuring out where in their socialization and development that they acquired the mental traits and mindsets that make them willing to overturn the societal norms of behavior in favor of rape. The vast, vast majority of men do not ever rape in their lifetimes. Rape is not a social norm, so it’s not as though we sit in school or in preschool learning how to rape a woman.
How about admitting that you have HIV OR AIDS? I have often thought about this. The rapists may have a condom on and not care though. I am infected with HPV thanks to my husband. He had to sleep with a lot of people before me. Now I want to kill myself on a daily basis. My psych evaluation is tomorrow.
I am learning to use a gun. Once I have learned, I will get a concealed carry permit. And anyone who thinks women over 50 don’t get raped is nuts. Rape isn’t about sexual attraction, it’s about control, and who easier to control than a little old lady? (I lived in a neighborhood in Florida where an 80+ year old woman was gang raped by 3 20-somethings in front of her husband.)
@snarkius - Geeez… I recommended Krav Maga because it’s designed for survival, more so than most fighting styles like Karate and Taekwondo. You won’t find poses and katas because it’s built for real world shit-hitting-the-fan situations. It’s highly adaptive and intense. Rape is an intense, chaotic situation. It makes sense to lean over to Krav Maga. It’s not a “random martial art” I pulled out of ass or anything like that. You brought up a good point about the competency of instructors, but that goes without saying. Any form of self defense you choose, you definitely want to check the label.
As far as categorization goes… Yeah, I was dumb for writing that because there’s several forms of rape I didn’t take into account.
I apologize.
In this horrible world I can see how this could be twisted and used as a defense for rapists. I’m sure some lawyer somewhere could present these things and convince the jury that since she wasn’t doing these things she wasn’t trying to not get raped, so clearly she must have wanted it.
Also, having ‘how to not get raped’ lists like this just increases the shame and guilt women feel when they are raped. Women are already haunted by questions like “Maybe if I did ____, I wouldn’t have been raped” and feelings of shame and guilt because they feel like it’s their fault for being raped. Having lists like this just puts more blame on the victim and convinces them that only they can control whether or not they are raped, and if they are raped it’s because they let themselves be raped. It’s disgusting.
If women stayed sober and travelled in a small group of three to four, then there is security. If a woman cannot travel with at least one companion, then it is best to have a weapon of some kind on her person.
Buy a large sewing needle, about 4 inches in length. Get a piece of plastic that is about an inch or so in diameter. Heat up the eye of the needle. Drill a hole in the plastic. When the needle is glowing hot, insert the eye of the needle into the hole in the plastic. Make a small sheath for the needle, then carry it in your pocket, or some place where it can be reached quickly. If attacked, grip it good and punch fast and furiously.
The list is too short.
I know a woman who avoided rape because she had vomited.
Umm I’m not even touching this one
out run him or just sleep with him. Is it really that big of a deal?
@QuantumStorm - i think we have had conversations about this before and i’d like to say that we both have strong opinions so we might as well agree to disagree (fighting on the net never really accomplishes much and you seem like a generally good guy anyway).
They’re not saying that rapists aren’t bad, what they’re saying is that in the case that it does happen (because no matter what there will always be rapists/attackers in the world) here’s some things you could possibly do – that might save you. I’d personally rather have this information than not. What if on the off chance, it did work? I also think pepper spray is a good idea, and kick in the balls. Also make as much noise as possible. Though I think prevention is key, and that is not walking alone at night, if you have to use your phone. Often times I had to go to uni late and catch the train home and I would always call people and say out loud that I was on the way home, thanks for picking me up, I’ll see you in five minutes etc and I honestly think that has saved me a couple of times. It’s sad that we have to do these things, but that is human nature. The world is full of all types of people, and unfortunately not all of them are good.
@Losertastic - Yeahhh I don’t think it’s a matter of “opinion” to say that men are more likely to be victimized in violent crimes than women. Here’s one such example: http://www.victimsweek.gc.ca/res/r512.html
But sure, we can agree to disagree ^_^
1.) Martial arts
2.) A dirty potty mouth (seriously, you will attract attention from strangers if you CURSE YOUR FUCKING ASS OFF)
3.) Gun
4.) Scratch his eyes out, then eat them in front of him. (Okay the last part is for me)
@DrummingMediocrity - If he’s vegan they might be made of tofu
Having some street smarts?
Yes, some women get raped when they have no control of how it happend, but women should not be walking around at night alone (obviously). Some people have no choice though, so yeah, if you’re able to have a gun.
Keep aware of your surroundings, and not be easily distracted (like using your phone while walking, ect). In womens self defence, they say to kick them where it hurts and run like hell lol.
@QuantumStorm -
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@galadrial - Gosh, it’s that simple? Well shit, why didn’t we think of that already?
@DougX831 - If there is Karma…maybe you’ll find out yourself someday, dude.
@galadrial - I’m sure, to you, that was witty and a logical retort. To you, anyway. For the rest of us… *yawn*
Kick him in the junk, peel off his face with my fillet knife and wear it over my own.
Yeah… a lot of rapists are turned on by fear. Vomiting or urinating in fear will, if anything, be a turn-on. Being sexually attractive as a woman has NOTHING to do with it! Power is everything to a rapist.
My friend stopped a rape by biting off half of her attacker’s tongue. That’s how you do it.
@owais52 - Shave your mustache. You look like a child molester.
gun I guess
@Losertastic - I don’t really know what you’re arguing about seeing as I agreed with you. Though, As QuantumStorm said, solely pushing the idea of “teach men not to do it” is effectively assuming that all men are by rapists by nature. Newsflash: no. There are people who will do it and people who would never, regardless of what they were “taught”.
Bottom line: NOTHING will stop the risk. To believe that anything will, is a fantastical delusion. And, sorry to say, but you are responsible for protecting your life. I really don’t get why people argue about that. Do you just leave your valuable possessions around where people can steal them? Why not? Because you’re assuming someone will steal it, right? Why are you not arguing then, for teaching people not to steal? Oh right, because we already do that. Yet it still happens. The risk cannot be removed, and thus, you are responsible. Blaming the apparent natural rapist instinct that men have is not an argument for your case. You don’t leave a wallet in a mall and expect no one to take it, do you? You don’t walk around with your most prized possession do you? So why on earth is there a refusal to protect YOURSELF against rape? I’m not condoning it! Frankly I think rapists should get life in prison. It’s terrible. But there is NOTHING anyone can do to completely stop it from happening, and you have to take care of yourself. You can’t just say “they shouldn’t do it so why should I have to do anything” because THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE WHO WILL DO IT. Just like there are people who will rob you. Saying “we shouldn’t have to protect ourselves from rape” is literally the same thing as saying “I shouldn’t protect myself from robbery”. …Which no one would ever say. Why is there a double standard?
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - Foolish comment? No. Women are still greatly disrespected sexually in society. Men rape for control. So in the end the target doesn’t matter. But you don’t see men raping other men in large numbers, until you put men alone with other men. Like in prisons. Women are typically the target. We still have to teach women to avoid rape, because we can’t seem to get it through people’s thick skulls that women are not sexual objects to be used. So in the end you’re not teaching men to “not rape”. You’re teaching the WORLD that women are not sexual objects.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/02/gail-dines-pornography
@FallenSafely - And this sort of man hating hostility is exactly why I elected to bypass white women for the rest of my life. It’s a very small percentage of men who are actually rapists, and you cannot make generalizations about large groups from small amounts of deviants. Yes they do gay butt rape in prison, but they also fist and grind in the women’s prisons. Prisons are collecting grounds for the worst of what society has to offer, and people there often resort to homosexuality because they do not have access to members of the opposite gender. Society in general, and our legal system condemns rape. Rape is already illegal. What do you expect to do about rape beyond what is already being done? I would be fine with stricter pentalties on rapists, even up to the death penalty, IF they are actual rapists. Because as you know, there are lots of women who cry rape in order to protect their reputations.
No amount of propaganda is going to extinguish rape completely, any more than it will extinguish murder and theft. When it comes down to it the best thing you can do is arm yourself. Carry a gun in your purse if you want and blow someone a new orophace if they attack you. Crime is lowest in places where the majority of law abiding citizens are armed.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - I would like to know where exactly I am saying “all men are rapists”. Because I’m not. I am saying the men who do rape are in a world filled with inappropriate bashing of women as sexual objects. That we as a society need to stop sexualizing women so much, so we can stop feeding these monsters. The ones who rape. NOT the ones who don’t rape. It’s actually true that incidents of rape jump about 5% every year as we as a nation continue to allow Beyonce to do a basic strip tease on the superbowl floor. And will you stop bringing up fucking guns… you’ve mentioned it in every comment. You’re like obsessed. And what if you can’t get the safety off before he grabs it from you?
@FallenSafely - ”It’s sad we’re still teaching women how to avoid rape, when we should be teaching men how NOT to rape.”
“Women are still greatly disrespected sexually in society. Men rape for control. So in the end the target doesn’t matter. But you don’t see men raping other men in large numbers, until you put men alone with other men.”
You said “men” which includes all men. If you meant to talk about a particular subsection of men then you could have used more precise language.
OK when it comes to what you are saying about society and being overly sexualized you are preaching to the choir. I am a Christian conservative, so I don’t look at porn, or nude pictures, or listen to Beyonce, Lady Gaga, or any of those other things. Incidentally I didn’t watch the Superbowl either. I don’t care for public sex scenes, sex scenes in movies, sex outside of marriage, etc. My parents taught me when I was young to stay away from porn (and other things that pollute the mind), to not engage in sex before marriage, and not to abuse women. If people aren’t coming from good homes then they are less likely to have good morals. That’s not to say that my mind has always been a thoroughly clean and spotless place, because it hasn’t, but I never had sex or raped anyone, and those values will be passed onto the kids.
So assuming that the rape rate is going up, let’s look at why that might be. One thing you have to look at is the cultural changes. As you pointed out, the dominant culture is divorced from traditional values, and it is getting worse. An emphasis and promotion of sexuality is going to make people, men and women, more amenable to sex and rape. When you promote a particular behavior people will do it more. No not everyone rapes for control, some rape because they get turned on and want to bang a woman whether she wants it or not. Of course part of the reason for the moral decline is that our society has been pushing God out of the culture as much as possible. Other things have come in to fill that space, and not all of them are good.
Another factor you need to keep in mind are demographic changes. Our country is being flooded with 3rd world immigration. Most people in the 3rd world are less civilized, and the male-female dynamic in the 3rd world is not something that most white women can handle. Rape and wife beating are a good deal more common in developing countries, and when those people come to our country in large numbers they bring their culture with them. We will see the US become a 3rd world country before the end of the 21st century if current demographic trends continue.
As for your comments about what to do when raped. If you are talking about me, I am physically strong enough to crush a human skull with my fist. I am not concerned for my own safety. I am much more concerned about my fiance. She should be able to carry a gun and a knife, or any other weapon for self defense without the state getting all up in her business or mine. If you can’t unlock the safety or don’t feel comfortable using a gun then using a knife is another option. I got some good double sided throwing knives for my sister which can also be used for stabbing. It wouldn’t be hard to put a knife through the soft portion of a man’s neck, and to do so wouldn’t require much physical strength. Another thing you can do is scoop out his eyeballs with your fingernails. I don’t know if you have long fingernails or not but if not then you should consider growing them. My old Kung Fu teacher actually reccomended that one. It won’t take much strength or time to put out his eyes, and once you do then he is vulnerable to any follow up attack that you see fit. You can’t control the behavior of others, or count on their good behavior. All you can do is be ready when they try to pull some crap. Public education isn’t going to do a thing to improve the quality of the culture, if anything it will only make it worse. Likewise the government has only made things worse as well. Back in the 1800′s and early 1900′s we didn’t have all this rape, spousal abuse, and divorce. You could always campaign to put God back in the public schools, but that’s a losing battle, and all the liberals and their political allies would never allow it. Pretty much all you can do these days is look after yourself and your own friends and family.
I think the best defense is to be careful. If possible handle all your business in the daylight. Take self defense classes. Be willing to hurt someone that is trying to hurt you. Hurt them bad. Use what you have in your hands. The metal corner of a purse could do damage. The side of your laptop even in the laptop bag could knock a guy out. Don’t stop hitting or kicking a guy until you know he is unconscious. If you kick him in the balls; when he bends forward, put your need in his face. Then kick him in the balls again. If he falls to the ground, keep him in the face. You have to be vicious. Assume your life is at risk, and think your life or his. A bottle or can of soda upside a guys head, a few times would be good defense also. Just have a good imagination. Look for a weapon, if you are followed, a stick, a stone, a bottle, a piece of glass across a guys throat will definitely save you. Remember a rapist is a demon possessed monster, so don’t be merciful, because he won’t. Whip his ass.
For society to stop the whole “Don’t get raped” and to start teaching “Don’t rape”…?
Anyone here saying teach men not to rape is bloody moron. When I first read it here I though that is one silly girl. Then I kept reading in other comments it and it was being recommended. Wow how do this people even feed themselves when they are that foolish.
@trunthepaige - You know very well women should never be given guns. They hit that time of the month and the next thing you know they’re shooting up a grade school. We need to take guns away from people, so children and rapists are kept safe.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - I like your comment, but for one part. A single bullet to the head is a difficult shot at best. Level the gun, waist high, hold the gun close in, and empty the gun at the perp. Most of the bullets will hit the body, and a whole lot of lead is just as good as one in the brain pan.
Arm the ladies send them out in groups. When they find a rapist, they attempt to educate the rapist out of him. If the education doesn’t take, they all shoot the rapist.
@trunthepaige - lol… so does that mean there are men out there who are being taught to rape?
If one wishes to apply a martial art and take on an attacker/rapist, then one should find an instructor who will teach joint locks as well as effective elbow and knee strikes. A determined attacker/rapist will do all he can to take control of his victim. The victim must not be afraid to use every tool available to resist. Yes, even literally using the head as a weapon is good. A retired French soccer player, Zidane, demonstrated on an Italian goalie the effectiveness of a head strike to the chest. A head butt to the sternum will make or break someone’s day. Also, learn the vulnerable places to strike. Remember that the bad guy will do all he can to break you. Do all you can to break him first.
@Such_are_you - I have to disagree with this. Firing from the hip is not good. Learning to use the Weaver stance is proper, as it will enable better control over the gun. Better handling of the recoil and quicker sight realignment are two of the benefits. There are more. Also, be sure of the target. You do not want colateral damage from stray bullets ricocheting around.
If the bad guy is less than ten feet away from you, and you have no choice but to fire from the hip, then shoot straight and true. Do not empty the magazine or the cylinder. You may not have time to reload if there are two attackers.
Do not aim for the head. Aim for center of mass, the torso of the body. Head shots and the limbs are too difficult to hit when you have adrenaline and fear working you over physically and psychologically.
@wordwarrior39 - It’s how my dad taught all the women in my family to shoot. Using a .38 Special 6 round S&W revolver the ladies regularly hit the targets where the vitals were. None of the ladies missed the target more than twice. The proof as they say is in the pudding.
@Such_are_you - fair enough
@Love_in_102 - Exactly we have already taught all of them not to rape. They just do it anyway, they do not think its the right thing to do, they just want to do it anyway
Why is it always women’s responsibility to not “get raped”? The fact is, most rapes are perpetrated by someone the victim knows and trusts. These suggestions to avoid getting raped first of all are assuming its a stranger raping a woman. Second, women don’t “get themselves raped”, men rape women (99% of rapes). What we really need to do to stop rape is open a dialogue with the men in our society. And stop sending the message to women that it is their responsibility to not get raped. What other crime do we treat like that? Also, 5% of rapists actually see jail time. The issue is that ” how can women avoid getting raped” is the wrong question to ask.
6. Gain weight and never shower.
@Such_are_you - What was the range at which they were shooting? Also, was it an S&W Model 10 with 4 inch barrel?
The incidence of r*pe would drop dramatically if every attempting r*pist got shot in the freaking face.
@do_a_j - What other crime do we treat that way? I don’t flash around wads of $100 bills, I lock my house and car, I don’t walk alone through the rough section of town. Let’s see, what else? I act intelligently to minimize the likelihood of pretty much every physical crime there is. And nobody has to tell me to do it. It only makes sense!!!
Your “open dialogue with men” “solution” sounds like something cooked up in a dorm room somewhere. There are evil people in the world — no amount of dialogue will change that.
Be smart. Be prepared. Don’t rely on dialogue to protect you.
@do_a_j - whatever dude.. what do you think of making hard core porn illegal?
@do_a_j - The the sort of man you are describing is very asertive and malcuilin. Standing in the way of another man in order to defend a weaker girl. That is not what we are teaching men these days. Its very anti feminist
@trunthepaige - No, we’re teaching them that it is women’s responsibility not to get raped, that this is a women’s problem. I don’t see how getting men involved is anti feminist. Most rapists are not psychopaths, and are also are not usually strangers to the victim. They are someone the victim knows and trusts, as in someone you likely wouldn’t have a weapon at the ready around. The problem is that this post addresses rape as if rapists are generally strangers waiting in an ally for a victim to come by. Why not teach the men in our society to respect women’s bodies and boundaries.
@do_a_j - Here’s what happened to the incidence of r*pe at CSU when they allowed concealed carry on campus. Don’t have a graph for when they said, “Hey, guys, don’t r*pe!”
my loaded .357. also, when i was 17, and on the rag.. it didn’t stop the man who raped me. it’s not about sex. it’s about control. it’s not like the rapist is going to woo its victim with foreplay and barry white tunes.
the assfucks at the university of colorado need to shut their goddamned traps about shit they know nothing about.
how dare anyone tell me that i can abort a baby up until almost birth, and in the same breath tell me how i can and cannot protect myself.
they can all eat bullets.
@wordwarrior39 - Approx. 50 feet, and I never knew which model S&W it was. Dad owned a lot of firearms, when I was a kid. Sometimes he had more than 100 weapons in his collection at the same time.
@owais52 - Naw, dressing slutty isn’t a crime, but raping someone is… straight jackets for men.
I used to carry around a knife I could conceal in a hairbrush, when I would walk home alone from my nightjob. It was a pretty good hairbrush, but the weapon not so much. I think it was just for show. In the event of getting raped, I’d think that someone that crazed enough to try to force you to get naked won’t react to bodily fluids. It’s not so much about arousal as it is about control. The terrible thing about rape is that once rape has been started, pretty much anything a woman tries to do contrary to what the rapist says will just get her into even more trouble. Most of the time it makes the rapist feel justified in beating her up or killing her if he gets angry. It’s a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation.
@Such_are_you - I hate math. I come up with 16 yards if I put 3 ft (one yard) into 50 ft. That is pretty good for shooting from the hip.
When in college I majored in law enforcement for a long while. Intro to Firearms was taught by a Kentucky State Trooper. He explained to the class the two primary stances used in law enforcement: the cup-and-saucer, and the Weaver stance. We did not get to shoot anything, though. Shooting from the hip was not encouraged.
Women shouldn’t have to be told how to avoid rape. Instead men should be taught not to rape.
I HATE those warnings and shit on what to do so you can avoid being raped. They should be telling men not to rape, not telling women how to try to escape. That’s bullshit.
But, of those things, I’d want the gun.
If a guy is already planning on raping you, I doubt that bodily discharges of any kind are going to scare him off. He’s a fucking rapist.
Gotta love liberals. Piss yourself, because guns are dangerous.
@phoebester - That is exactly the point. Skin deep people can only judge people by their appearance. Usually those are the ones who become rapists. In your case I can only say that someday someone who looks like me might come to rescue you. Read this http://owaissiddiqui.hubpages.com/hub/Identifying-And-Avoiding-A-Rapist. I love and save kids not molest them
@TiredSoVeryTired - Dressing up like meat mean an open invitation to butchers … So dress decent and the butcher will look elsewhere. So no straight jackets for men
I think as a society we should teach “don’t rape” instead of “how not to get raped.” Let’s be real, nobody ever asks for it, and society only ever blames the victim instead of focusing on the actual problem of telling people to be decent. Why don’t the attackers ever get blamed?