Monday, 28 May 2012
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It's The Economy Stupid
The unemployment rate is at 8.1% which is higher than it was 3 and a half years ago when President Obama was elected. Here is the link: Link
The federal deficit is at 15.7 trillion and growing at the fastest rate ever. Here is the link: Link
On the other hand, President Obama killed bin Laden.
Does President Obama deserve to be re-elected?
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Yes.
I just found out a family member is related to Obama so I feel like I have conflicting interests.
Yes.
Nope.
He never deserved it the first time.
Funny how that very slogan was used for re electing Clinton when he had all the moral questions going on.The thought that the economy was doing well is what counting fo him to deserve re election.Now with Obama somehow the economy doesn't matter.Worst economy ever and yet thats not a probem now.Democrats,you can't have it both ways.
And if Gore had been Pres instead of Bush,Bin Ladin would never have been able to be found by Obama!And I would say there would have been many more attacks on the US like 9-11
@Somefishytales - I like your name.
well.. this whole election is being centered around social issues, so i guess economy is out of sight out of mind.
Yes. deficit spending has flattened out. were are still living with much of Bush's economics. you cannot take day or month 1 or 2 or 3 of Obama's Presidency and say that was Obama. that would be like trying to stop a train rushing out of control downhill and blaming it on the person who jumped on to try and stop it. it took time to stop the bleeding. now we have 25 straight months of job growth.
on the other hand as Romney ran for Governor of Massachusetts he said he was the one to elect because of his business experience...that he would create jobs and with his business connections he could influence other businesses to create jobs. sound familiar? under Romney's Governorship Massachusetts ranked 47th in the nation in job creation. many left Massachusetts to take jobs elsewhere AND he ran up the Mass deficit. it's why he doesn't talk about his term as Governor. in fact he jokes about it. "Sure I was Governor but I didn't inhale hahahaha". That's a slap in the face to the people of Massachusetts, especially those who campaigned, donated and voted for him. It's probably what he'll say later if heaven forbid he's elected President.
you forgot to mention Obama rescued the U.S. auto industry, something Romney said in a full page New York Times Op Ed he would not have done. the title of his article was "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt". housing is on the rise. Wall Street with it's dips and jumps has been on the rise for a long time. Obama's deficit spending is actually lower than that of the past 6 Presidents and tax rates are as low as they've been since the 1950s. oh and Obama added the two wars to the deficit spending, correctly so. Bush did not account for those expenditures.
The entire world is in a recession. It's hardly the fault of Obama. But people tend to lose perspective of that.
More importantly - When Clinton left office we had a 127 billion dollar SURPLUS. Republicans spent some time in the oval office and left us with a 1.3 trillion dollar DEFICIT! We pay interest on that debt of course and since we have not been in a position to pay the Republican deficit down the debt, compounded with interest, is going up. No surprise there.
But keep in mind that while Obama has been in office federal spending has been at the lowest pace in nearly 60 years!
Yes. Obama should be reelected!
What people arent understanding, is civil liberties. who cares how much money we are making if the government is limiting us the same rights as those of prisoners and criminals?
@TheSutraDude - thank you for putting into words what has been buzzing around in my brain for a while now. you have done a great job of organizing and presenting facts without that "IN YO FACE!" attitude that just makes me mad, even when i agree with what the speaker is saying...
how can you not vote for the big O? i mean yeah, the economy is tanking, he's continuing the patriot act and other policies but he's also running a contest to hang with him for a night in NYC. how can you not get with an epic guy like that?
@iones_island - and Romney is raffling the opportunity to dine with him and Trump.
@mtngirlsouth - He won the election legally. He definitely deserved it. He out-spoke his contenders and was granted the title through our electoral system.
@FlashFosgitt - you're welcome. the bit about lower deficit spending was published in a recent article by The Wall Street Journal.
Obama hasn't done any better or worse of a job than McCain would have. The candidates are all. the. same. I do think Obama was incredibly naive when he went into office; I think he got caught up in his own campaign message. LOL
I would also like to add the following: The President has VERY little to do with the economic growth/decline in the country. That's how our market works, but people still foolishly vote for a candidate based on this, and the candidates still say they'll change/improve it when they really can't (gas prices are a GREAT example of this) . CEO's, bankers, and wall street traders have more impact on the economy than the President ever does.
@RazielV - Just for you, a list of lies he ran on:
No more wiretapping of citizens
Youtube
Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
News Busters
Obama campaign would accept public funding
ABC
Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
A Socialist
Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
Mounting Heath Care Lies
Would have the most transparent administration in History
Cato Institute
We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
Boston Globe
I have visited all 57 states.
Snopes
I’ll get rid of earmarks
Source: Any bill passed during presidency
When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
Campaign Speech
Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
News Video
Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
YouTube
Not no, but hell no! If it weren't so late, I would add to Mountaingirlsouth's supply.
@mtngirlsouth - You're correct that he ran on those principles. But those are the principles that got him elected. You're also neglecting the fact that to actually put a lot of these ideas into practise he has to run things through the House and Senate. Obama is not perfect, and certainly not all powerful like people think the President is, but he won the election fair and square. Whether he follows through on his promises or not is not the issue (back then). It only is one now. It also doesn't change the fact that he earned the election properly.
Also, if I recall correctly, the actual ISFA (Iraq Status of Forces Agreement) stated that American troops would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and be completely out by December 2011. This was closely followed and only occasionally strayed from the time-table.
As for the "57 states" remark, really? If we're going to point out the incredibly stupid things a president says then let's crack open the gem that was Clinton, Bush Sr, Bush Jr (could be a few volumes for sure), Nixon, and pretty much EVERY PRESIDENT IMAGINABLE. That's not a valid place to stand an argument on.
Again, Obama isn't perfect and I didn't vote for him, but attempting to vilify him over not meeting expectations is silly, especially considering the majority of Washington Republicans have fought him every step of the way, making it almost impossible to impose the things he promised to during election. There is also the possibility that Obama lied, which all presidents have done and will do. So if anything, he's just another president, no worse no better. I'll also point out that since Clinton's impeachment we've been in a steady decline economically and socially. We had 8 years of a mediocre to poor presidential reign (Bush) who barely took the time to try to reform or postulate reform of many important aspects of our government and national needs (FEMA, Healthcare, Medicare, etc.).
Obama makes mistakes but I'd rather a mistake we can fix than nothing at all.
It still doesn't change the fact he won the election fair and square. Ergo he deserved it. If McCain deserved it he would've won. It's simple as.
(For the record: I wrote in my ballot during the 08 election. My candidates were: President - Stephen Colbert, Vice-President - Christopher Walken)
Heck no. The man breathed new life into the Patriot Act and signed the NDAA which allows him to lock up any American indefinitely without trial.
That is enough to fail you in my book.
@RazielV - He lied his way there, that is not my idea of earning it properly. I vilify him for his lies and his destruction of our liberties. You said it right the first time, "He out-spoke his contenders."
"I'll also point out that since Clinton's impeachment we've been in a steady decline economically and socially." - Yeah. Only since Obama got into office we have been going there in overdrive.
And for the record, I'm not too thrilled with any Presidents since Reagan.
@mtngirlsouth - We don't know for sure if Obama lied or just hasn't been able to meet the goals he intended to. So to be fair we can't say for sure he lied about those things. I do agree with you on the Reagan bit. Not one good one. Besides, yes Obama's spending has been out of control, but don't forget he inherited Bush Jr's 1.2 trillion debt that was built off a massive surplus under Clinton. So yes Obama is bad, but Bush is worse (imo) for getting us in debt in the first damn place.