July 30, 2006
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Consistency
Is it consistent for someone to be so concerned about the life of a hamster in the previous post and to also be pro-choice?
Is it consistent for someone to be so concerned about the life of a hamster in the previous post and to also be pro-choice?
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umm..i don’t know.
possibly?
WTF?? AGAIN WTF!!????
Heh, that’s bizarre… to worry so much about the life of hamster, yet when it comes to human beings that person thinks we can go ahead and murder innocent babies? Sorry.. that’s just wrong. My opinion, at least.
Well, seeing as it’s different species, I guess so…
No, in fact it’s both twisted and absurd.
the hampster is an animal…
hamsters are interesting creatures..o.o;;
Yes. The hamster is a fully formed animal, not a cluster of cells.
a fetus is a human… so you can’t compare the two
YES IT IS. i would not put a coat hanger inside of myself to have an abortion, but if need be i would go to a doctor to have the procedure done. in the same way i would not bash a hamster into the concrete over and over again to kill it, i would take it to a vet for treatment or euthanasia.
(most animal rights activists are also human rights activists, which includes women’s rights, such as the right to have an abortion.)
I’d say it’s kind of consistent, I mean, a hamster is alive, breathing air, has lived a life.
Eva.
Yes.
I just read that post, and that is such a fucking inhumane way to kill an animal. >.< If you are going to do it yourself, drown them maybe but throwing them against the pavement!?!?! That is so wrong. And yes I believe that you can be concerned about a hamster and be pro-choice. There are christians who are anti-abortion but think it’s okay to beat their wives/kids/etc. No, not every Christian is like that I know so I’m not stereotyping, *but* those people do exist. *shrug* Just trying to get my point made.
^^all valid points. i dont agree with them being so concerned about a hamster, and not about a fetus. that is wrong.
I have often wondered that but also what about those who are pro-life but support war and the death penalty?
Want to bet that the relationship is an inverse one
the only time I would condone abortion is when the mother would die from giving birth
does that count as pro-choice?
i don’t think it’s consistent
but then again, i believe that some few exceptions of abortion are okay, and i believe that the hamster could’ve been put down by a doctor…it all depends on how you look at it…
i’m not in a fit state for discussing deep things right now so i don’t know
Sure. There’s an easy explanation:
She’s bipolar!
Or schizophrenic; it’s so hard to tell the difference these days.
In other words yes
im just weird. i dont kill anything like i a said not even ants or ones that bite….
i think if it breaths and feels you shouldnt kill it. and hamsters have a thinking process aswell…. so…..
ya im wierd
I’m not even touching this one…
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yeaaa, i read ppls comments and got annoyed. LET PPL DO WHAT THEY WANT! Gosh……….animal cruelty? Its a freakin rodent, a dying . And so what?! If you have a problem, thats YOU…
But no thats not being consistent. Stick to one idea.
Nope, it’s inconsistent.
oh i didnt answer the question really… i dont know my thinking process on abortion is a bad topic i really get into tha tone
Yes. The hamster needed to be given a choice whether he would rather die at the hands of strangers or painfully be put to death by his trusted owner.
Are you consistent, Dan ?
God has given humans souls, and we are made in the image of God. Animals were made for us to have dominion over, as Genesis tells us. So, while I do not promote cruelity to animals, as in killing an animal for the “fun” of it, I do not have any problem with killing an animal to put it out of its misery, or to kill it to eat meat. At the same time, I am anti-abortion because humans have souls. God clearly showed in the Bible that it is ok, and even good to eat meat. Yet he also said clearly that we are not to murder–which is plain and simple what abortion is.
Dan, you must understand the pro-choice advocates weird thought process which is: an animal life is worth much more than a human life.
It’s a critter. It’s not a person. In this case, it had no future, other than to infect others. Comparing a dying rodent to a human child is insane.
duh. if it’s the best thing to do, then you do it. if the hampster had to die, it had to die. if the fetus has to be aborted, it has to be aborted.
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yea
there two different things but no its not consistant
uhhh why would you kill a hampster that way anyway? so into mercy killing but its tortured while it dies >> but anyway its very inconsistent.
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I think it is, because if you own a hamster for years, you probably developed a bond with it. A baby is just…an annoyance unless it was planned. And even so, you have to wait nine months for it to mean anything.
Human life is overrated. It’s not like most people are good people or will end up doing anything good.
I would say that’s definitely inconsistent.
No, it’s not consistent.
And for those who say, “Well, it’s just a rodent”, where do you draw the line?
What if I say, “Well, it’s just a cat or a dog?” Is that different than a rodent? Why? And in whose eyes?
(And I have five pet rats. They’re rodents too.)
I’m pro choice and anti hunting, but I’ve never claimed to be consistant. In fact I’m extremely inconsistant, especially in my beliefs, so oh well. Consistancy makes for a verry boring life, so have fun all my consistant xanganians.
Absolutely not. A hampster is just a hampster and nothing more - just a soulless animal. Of course it’s cute, and of course God cares about all the aspects of His creation, but He cares for humans so much more than any animals. I mean, if a sparrow can’t even die without God knowing about it, of course He knows of and cares for our problems, however ultimately petty they may be. But a baby, even in the womb, is a living human, made by God in His image and to kill it in any way, born or unborn, is murder.
Whether it is consistent or not.
1. you don’t beat an animal to death, you have it put down humanely
2. abortion doesn’t consist in beating the foetus to death, it is done humanely
3. Every human deserves the right to live his or her life and make his or her choices, right or wrong without interference.
4. Every animal has the right to proper care and humane treatment
5. A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal. Proverbs 12:10a
6. bashing a hamster to death does not tally up with the righteous care of an animal.
Shalom!
I’m pro-choice and anti-hamsters. Mwahaha.
Why don’t we ask the hamsters how they feel about this issue, because we only have one side of the argument right now.
C’mon hamsters, speak up…
No, I don’t think so. The reason that people get so worked up over that is because it falls under the category of helpless.
So is a baby…..
no way! good point.
If being pro-abortion is being pro-woman, then what about all the unborn girls that get killed? (Not that the boys aren’t important either.)
wow. i didn’t realize that the cuteness of a hampster could so overwhelm me.
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Um, yeah.
I agree with
YES IT IS. i would not put a coat hanger inside of myself to have an abortion, but if need be i would go to a doctor to have the procedure done. in the same way i would not bash a hamster into the concrete over and over again to kill it, i would take it to a vet for treatment or euthanasia.
(most animal rights activists are also human rights activists, which includes women’s rights, such as the right to have an abortion.)
by raizhafae
who I don’t agree with is
Dan, you must understand the pro-choice advocates weird thought process which is: an animal life is worth much more than a human life.
by lead_mare
The thing with the hamster, is HOW it was killed. With pro choice, when done before the baby forms inside the womb it’s not some painful death, unlike if it was born than killed. I’m not saying i’m pro choice, but that’s my thoughts on that. It’s HOW things are done. So it’s not so much about consistency, because people were concerned about HOW the hamster died. People weren’t disagreeing it should be put down but HOW imhumanely it was done.
Give me a break. Yes, I don’t torture animals to death and I believe that a woman should have the right to choose when/where/how she becomes a mother.
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No. I find it inconsistent to be concerned about brutality to a hamster and not be concerned about brutality to an unborn human. But that post did traumatize me. . . I don’t believe in either.
And since someone asked, I do believe in the death penalty and that there are some things worth fighting a war over.
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I guess no more inconsistent than to be pro-life and pro-death penalty.
Ahahahaha I love this new trend, Dan, you are doing great.
You have my full support.
a hampster actually feels pain, so it makes sense that some one would think it’s wrong to kill it inhumanely: a fetus doesnt feel pain for 24 weeks.
The thing about pro-life and pro-death penalty is that unborn humans are innocent, death row inmates are not.
Is it consistent for someone to be so concerned about the life of a hamster in the previous post and to also be pro-choice?
That’s a completely loaded and unfairly phrased question. It also mocks the hamster’s death by comparing a PET to a group of cells. Has nothing to do with consistency.
I’m appalled you’d even make the comment honestly. The hamster was a mercy killing, an act of compassion although maybe a bit misguided. What “consistency” does it have with her beliefs on what goes on within her body?
I totally agree with DuMont82
“Give me a break. Yes, I don’t torture animals to death and I believe that a woman should have the right to choose when/where/how she becomes a mother.” DuMont82
its not just a mass of cells, it will become a living, breathing human being that will have a will of its own and further the human race. its not a choice. its a human being.
and if the mother can’t deal with that, its too bad, she should have thought of the concequences before getting laid
see..now that’s better -when ya give us a clear view of the maddness to your method….
It go’s well with the ever present viewpoint of save the whales, kill the kids.
About as consistent as postmodern relativistic thinking/emoting can be.
Dan’s next bumper sticker, “Save a baby; smash a hamster.” Seriously though, hamster’s eat their babies, human’s kill them and don’t eat their babies, we’re almost doing what’s natural. Now if that hamster and the baby would have been eaten we would be entirely natural. In case you have not heard, Soilent Green is PEOPLE, don’t eat it. DISCLAIMER: Cannibalism is not legal in continental United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, or any of America’s territories or major outlying areas.
Yes I think it’s inconsistant. You can’t protect the life of one being and not another. As for the hampster they were just putting it out of it misery. Yes I know they could have had it put to sleep, but its very expensive to do. The intensions were good the actual process not so much
And as for all this bunk about how they arent human for, I dont know Ive heard 4 weeks 2 months and 3 months, but that’s a load of crap, when does someone become human, when it can compete with you intellectually, when it’s nice to look at, when you can no longer visualy deny its humanity?
Yes. A person can be against cruel deaths. For example, throwing a hamster at the ground is cruel. Killing an unborn baby that would otherwise be subject to a life of an unwanted child isn’t.
Some might say who are we to tell a woman what to do? But I say, who are we to tell a child he can’t have a chance at life? Maybe that’s why our industrial and scientific progress has slowed, we’ve been killing our einsteins and Von Brauhm’s and Da Vinci’s.
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Yes, it’s consistent. There’s an enormous difference between killing something that can’t think or feel than killing something that does.
I wonder how each of us would feel if our parents wouldve decided we were to much trouble, oh wait that’s right we wouldnt feel anything, cause we would be dead. I know personally my parents were older when I was born, Im not going to be out of college until a few years before they retire, Im a burden to them financially and their time, but they didnt think once about aborting me, and I thank them for that and have become the best person I can be to thank them.
Oh and I would like to say that I totally agree with ericvandermolen.
Ha, thanks, Dan.
That is what is so wrong with mankind…no compassion for life at all.
No one wants to take any responsibility..anything goes.
My personal thought is how can you show concern over the life of an animal yet advocate for the innocent slaughter of human life.
Makes no sense to me.
Well they always say that a baby’s not a baby until the mother says it’s a baby.. but you know how I feel on the subject.. and that’s just plain stupid.. definitely NOT consistant at all..
You know, I read something today, that planned parenthood tries to convince people that a pregnancy acts as a host and parasite.. like the baby is attacking the mother, making her weaker and weaker while it gets stronger.. I couldn’t believe it.. my body was perfectly designed to carry and nurture my kids for the 9 months (AND SOME ODD DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I can’t ever imagine anyone thinking this way..
Dude. An unborn baby (that isn’t very developed, at all) is not fully formed. Not quite a baby yet. Not alive and not feeling pain. Won’t remember dying, living, anything. Not until it develops more functions, then it’s a different subject
A hamster is a living creature that shows its pain to you. It moves and tries to avoid pain for the same reason we avoid pain. It remembers pain. Remembers life.
No way. I hate when people put animals lives over humans. Animal lovers….pfffffft.
WTF???? Was Dan drunk when he posted this?? AGAIN?? WTF???
NO
hamster….
But no, I’m not a person who’s saying that she hates humans. Or something.
the hamster said yes.
I, personally, think both abortion and brutally killing hamsters is wrong, but I also believe that it’s an individual’s choice on whether and how they kill their baby/hamster.
I don’t think consistent is the word you are looking for, Dan. Try “liberal.”
I don’t think people were concerned about letting the hamster live – if it was sick and in pain it’s better for him to not be alive then, but smashing it to the fucking cement is just cruel! I don’t see how your comparisons make sense… I am pro-choice, but I am not for late term abortions unless it’s strongly recommended by a doctor. Please tell me how having an early abortion compares to smashing an animal to the ground. And how about all those pro-lifers out there then – where are they when there are children starving and beaten because their parents didn’t want them in the first place, where are they when thousands of kids are tossed around in foster homes because their parents didn’t want them in the first place? Pro-lifers aren’t heros…
No. Astute observation.
Is it inconsistent to be anti-abortion and at the same time be pro war and pro death penalty? Or pro torture?
sorry i hit enter too fast: stop trying to make those who are pro-choice look like the bad guys.
Inconsistent
I don’t know. It just bothered me that she was so concerned with the hamster’s misery, but apparently buried it alive. No offense to her, but I personally would never do that.
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It’s a hamster people, a rodent. Give me a break.
i think the better question should be “is it inconsistent to call Andrea Yates a murderer and still be pro-choice?”
it can be consistent…
it can also be consistent to be pro death penalty and pro life. Well… y’know, consistent for humans.
different strokes for different folks.
Is it consistent to ask this question after asking your last two?
Hay Dan, I know this guy (Kyjo) and he would love to make featured. So could you tell everybody that he kicks cats and eats rats? That should give him enough hate-o-grams to put him over the top. Take my word for it he won’t kill his site over the attention
On another note concerning this stupid question (sorry Dan, but it’s just stupid)… We used to have two hamsters, a male and female. When the female had a baby, the mother started to eat one of her children. It was really f-ed up.
I just thought I would mention that since we are talking about killing babies and killing hamsters.
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no. But it is the human answer…
Well, many people who are pro-choice think of a fetus as a “cluster of cells” instead of a future human being. Technically speaking, both a hamster and a grown human are also just “clusters of cells”…but try telling them that.
Of course pro-choicers are going to say it’s consistent, and pro-lifers are going to say it’s not.
Happy Anniversary Dan..came to edit and saw it mentioned..*Congratulations * Lee
not at all.
If a woman is pregnant, she is PREGNANT WITH A BABY NOT A “CLUSTER OF CELLS”!!!!! It is a LIVING HUMAN BEING.
If being pro-abortion is being pro-woman, then what about all the unborn girls that get killed? (Not that the boys aren’t important either.)
Posted 7/30/2006 at 8:39 PM by casvelyn
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Uh, yes?
I think it all depends on why and when you suppose that abortion could be legit.
For example, if you suppose that the first trimeter embryos are not alive (meaning, it is still a part of mother’s body, since it is not able to sustain self) and you support strictly that to be legit for abortion, I think it’s consistent.
If you think that unchecked abortions are okay (third trimester? Okay! Abortion, w00t!), then we might have a bit of a problem.
(most animal rights activists are also human rights activists, which includes women’s rights, such as the right to have an abortion.)
Posted 7/30/2006 at 8:05 PM by raizhafae
That’s very true.
I love when other people say the same thing I want to say. Then I can just copy, paste and say “I agree.” It’s great.
Oh, and your answers for “a cluster of cells” is going a bit on the spin doctor’s way.
I think that the key here is “self-sustainability,” if I must take a position in abortion; we can sustain ourselves without strictly controlled environment (early-stage embryos can’t) and so can hamsters… but I hate to take a part in this nonsense and I won’t. I respect your answers, but please think before coming into premature conclusions. In other words, be logical, not emotional.
Lastly, take your Limbaugh and Fox News biased selves out of here. I won’t have you molding other people’s minds driving them to the same warped conclusions you came to.
hmmmm… very inconsistent ideology… I’m going to bite my tongue now and not say it… I’m fighting the urge… oh darn… I’m just going to say it… here goes… typical liberal.
thats pretty ridiculous if u ask me.
killing babies is ok, but a hamster isnt???
STEREOtypical liberal, you mean.
I’m a moderate, but I’ll be a liberal just to spite all of you with the wrong ideas if it’s needed. -_-
I can hear my poor little hamster running in her wheel right now as I’m reading your last entry. I couldn’t kill her. I’d have to let her go naturally and make her as comfortable s possible and feed her cookies in the meantime. I’m also pro-life. If anything, I’m consistent! Of course, I have to be because I’m so OCD.
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Nope Dan, It’s not consistant but its still the way I am.
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Luckily, I didn’t contradict myself on that one.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! it’s consistent. we’re talking about the death of a human baby, and the death of a half dead sick hamster. tehe. even if you don’t believe in the sanctity of life, it’s logical. babies grow up and (if you’re dedicated to being a fantastic parent, and to raising a person with good morals) become adults, and can make the world a better place. a half dead hamster??? well… he can gross some people out. but i’m pretty sure that’s about it.
wait… did i say that right??? anyway, if you read my whole comment, you get the gist of my opinion.
I’m really not sure………
Yes, in the scenario you set up, I think it is….. I seriously doubt any pro choicer would condone smashing a baby against the concrete after it was born…. just because the baby was unwanted, & the person didn’t have the means for an abortion beforehand….
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Ooooh, NICE one Dan… You totally set us up on that one… Loved that…
No, it is not consistant to worry about an animal and to ignore human infant deaths every day…
Yes.
Being pro-choice does NOT mean that the person doesn’t respect life, nor want the best life for the living being in question. I may be for women having the option to have an abortion if they feel they have no other choice, but that in no way means I think lightly of death or killing. I am also for assisted suicide for people who are terminally ill, have little to no chance of ever recovering, and are in much pain, but that doesn’t mean I’d be ok with just offing old people.
Sorry, I guess this question strikes a nerve. It shows the over-simplification of such a vastly complex issue as abortion. It also strikes of the stereotype that those of us who are pro-choice are selfish, insensitive, immoral heathens that don’t care about life or in any way respect it. This stereotype is proof of a an incredibly narrow-minded approach that will never lead to any sort of resolution or improvement (including thinking beyind abortion to ways that the pro-life and pro-choice movements can work together to lessen the need for abortions to begin with).
That hamster story is so disturbing. If others find it disturbing, just do some research on partial birth/late term abortions and see how disturbing THAT is….
Happy anniversary Dan. Always great posts!
o_o? Buring half-dead hamsters?
I must have missed something back there.
If you support PETA, perhaps.
i think that w ur animals is the same as an abortion its the peoples own decision, me personally i am against abortion, but i believe everyone is entitled to there opinion.
Yes. If they are opposed to late term abortions (unless it endangers the woman’s life). Before then a baby has an underdeveloped brain. There are no detectable brain waves until the 13th week.
Yes, because although I am pro-choice, I don’t suggest throwing a pregnant woman down the stairs a couple times to kill her baby. Don’t be an asshole, Dan.
Ugh. First of all abortion is the decision of the mother and father. There is a difference between a very small number of cells in your womb that have yet to take human form, and a fully formed human. Also, I don’t think god has ever personally told anybody that he doesn’t care if a hamster is bludgeoned to death or buried alive. I think that if god exists he would care very much. Sure it’s just a rodent but maybe your just one ignorant person out of millions, so maybe your life isn’t that important either. Everybody has their place in life, and nothing is ever “just something.” Yes, I think that if the hamster was dying he should’ve died I’m not arguing that, but you can still care about the hamster, and care about it’s life. Yes I care about unborn babies, but I think very much that unless you know the whole situation you can’t say shit, and even then you can’t say much unless you’ve been in that *exact* same situation. In fact a lot of the comments are so off topic, that people aren’t even responding to the original post anymore, I know I’m not. Ugh, but Dan, good post. I think it got the effect you desired.
To the person “bubbles” or whatever the s/n was…if the comments annoy you so much don’t fucking read them. Nobody is forcing you to look at the screen and read them. I mean, personally I don’t take enjoyment out of doing stuff that annoys me. This is a place for people to debate their thoughts and say what they like,if you don’t agree with it then argue it but don’t just fucking complain about it annoying you. It really shows your intelligence level.
collision_kiss made a very good point. cheers to her. ^.^ I just read that comment because I had this up for a while before posting the comment, I left and came back to it.
It isn’t consistent at all. A “cluster of cells” has the potential to become a great scientist and find a cure for hundreds of diseases. Or perhaps a successful politician and bring peace between warring factions. The possibilities are endless. I can’t imagine a hamster having that kind of impact…even potentially. Well maybe you could teach it to water-ski like that squirrel. But that’s not gonna have a big impact on the human race.
I guess you can compare it, but the hamster actually lived. It’s more like the right to die situation.
> Pro-choice or pro- life? You said choice, so yes, its a choice to allow life or not. Some folks don’t need to be the executioners. Vessels to carry the creature to a vet, sure…. Leave the painless euthanising to the pro’s.
Peace just because….
It is consistent if one assumes the person values a hamster life but not a human life. There are plenty of people who show by their actions that they hate humans and love animals.
By my beliefs, however, it is HIGHLY inconsistent. Life is life; value is or don’t.
riddle me this: why are most pro-life people pro-war? like george bush for example.
Eh, I dunno. That’s a hard one. Like the argument that you can’t be anti-capital punishment and pro-choice. I have no idea.
Inconsistent for sure, but that’s one of the biggest problems of todays society. Parents are not consistent with dicipline, there are hipocrites everywhere you turn.
“…We are sung to sleep by philosophies of ‘save the trees and kill the children’…”
Are you consistent? You pretend to be all compassionate then you write about stamping a hamster to death and title it, “we all have to kill a hamster at one time” No Dan, “we” don’t. Tell some little kid whose favorite pet is deathly ill to throw same pet against some concrete. Or some flakey hamster lover. Yes I call them “flakey” because I could care less about small animals. I eat them.
Why is a cow or a pig or a chicken any less sympathetic than a stupid assed hamster or gerbil? It’s just another absurdity of this messed up society’s thinking.
Euthanasia, mercy killing, has always been common with pets. With the advent of the “living will” we’ve come a little closer to allowing humans to make the same choice for themselves.
Euthanasia, mercy killing, has always been common with pets. With the advent of the “living will” we’ve come a little closer to allowing humans to make the same choice for themselves.
Sadly, in this day and age the answer is both. Do you mean consistant in a “hypocritic” way? When did the life of an animal take precedance over a child? On Justice League, a father had to choose between his left hand or his son … so he did what any cartoon would do, cut of his left hand and saved his son. Animal species have come and gone, if we value animals over humans, we might as well be the next extinct species. Note that, however, humans, plants, and animals fall into three different categories, humans are not animals.
no- which is more important: a hamster with a life expectancy of 2 years or a human being with the life expectancy of 75+ years?
It is to me.
OK, what is wrong with you people!?!?!?! This was a suffering hamster. Is it more humane to bash it against pavement for 30 seconds of suffering, than let it suffer for another week of continuous pain from its tumors of whatever the crap it had. A dieing hamster is NOT the same as a human life. Sorry Dan, but these two items aren’t relevant enough to relate consistency to them.
I don’t know or care if it is consistent, but that hamster post was horrible. I don’t personally like hamsters in particular, but I would never kill one as it is a living being. Nothing unborn is any kind of person or being. One becomes by being born. Through a human being’s first independent breath of life, he becomes a living soul.
Nope, killing is killing.
No. I’ve been thinking about this very thing…and it makes me incredibly sad. It’s not just inconsistent…it’s plain wrong. A “fetus” is a developing human being…with a heart beat and the like. My best friend just miscarried. YOu can’t tell me there’s nothing important about unborn children.
inconsistent.
Yes.
The hamster is alive, and it’s aware that it’s alive.
Whereas, a fetus is just a cluster of cells, and completely unaware of its existance. As far as we know.
Yes, in the case that you felt for the hamster, for instance you knew the hamster. Because he existed and had a life.
It all, as always depends on where you believe life begins.
no thats why liberals shouldnt run the country ever
I would have taken the hamster to a vet to have him taken care of professionally and painlessly, just like I believe that abortions should be performed in doctor’s offices where they can be safe, instead of in basements by people who aren’t real doctors using non-sterile instruments.
in someones eyes maybe the hampster is a living thing and an unborn fetus isn’t…especially if it isn’t a fetus yet.
Yes. Hamsters can survive the outside world on their own — fetuses can’t.
i’m not sure. i just know that if you don’t fully apperciate hamsters for their pure unadulterated beauty, there’s something wrong.
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Thats pretty inconsistent…
…and really really sad…
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What is with you and hamsters all of a sudden?
it’s retarded, a hamster’s life is completely differnet from a human life. When’s the last time a hamster did something to the better of human kind?
And honestly, doesn’t anyone think about adoption? That’s a good alternative.
no, it’s not. abortion is murder.
reminds me of a line from a song- “save the trees and kill the children”.
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wth…?
wth…?
No. o.o Personally, I’d much prefer saving a hamster to saving a human. Hamsters are smart.
Being pro-choice doesn’t mean they’ll necessarily have less regard for life. Of course it’s normal for them to be concerned about the hamster. What, just because they hold that position on abortion, they shouldn’t logically care about brutality? It isn’t the death, it’s how that came about. And even so, it’s also in the necessity of the death, and the manner in which it came about.
That whole situation shouldn’t be boiled down to that one question.
Well, sure. Because it depends on what that person thinks a fetus is. A human? Or a cell cluster? Do they really feel that a fetus is life?
I am.
I am concerned with how animals are treated. But to me abortion is different.I don’t consider the child to be alive till it is born.