Well, if they like raw unprotected sex, they have to carry the consequences unless they could go to the damm pharmacy and buy Plan B. Now, we’re even!
I don’t know about moral… but I’m for pro-choice. >_>
It’s irresponsible is what it is… but I’m all for pro-choice.
not moral, or right
It’s her choice, unless the baby can survive outside the mother’s womb, it’s not a real human yet, that’s how I see it.
Morals are subjective.
blehhhh
NO!!! but I don’t judge women who do…..if they are that selfish they would have sucked as a mother…….JIMMY HAT
nope. she should have been smarter
I’m pro-choice. I don’t know about moral. But what if a young girl is raped? Is she expected to go through the trauma and pain just because of something that was not her fault?
Pro-choice.
It wasn’t her fault. Even if the guy has all sorts of protection – there’s still a chance that she can get pregnant.
Hell, I’ve always got a coat-hanger for a rape-victim in need!
And Chocobo – it’s said to be rare that you get pregnant from getting raped. That’s what I’ve heard. I don’t recall a rape case where the woman became pregnant, afterall, even thought it’s a possibility.
no.
uhhh, i’m gonna back out on this one, because I know this is gonna get ugly.
No.
That’s called reaping what you sow.
Wait – you asked if it was moral.
No, it’s not moral. It certainly isn’t, to lose a human life like that. But even if it’s not moral, the woman should choose. Afterall, she’s the one providing the baby with the nutrients neccesary to live.
there’s a difference between rape, and an unplanned pregnancy due to consentual sex.
I’d say yes it is wrong, but I’m also against making it illegal. I think if we as the church did our jobs better of helping those in need and not just condemning them for being pregnant a lot of abortions would be avoided. If you criminalize them, it’s going to continue to happen – just in very unsafe ways.
NO. Abortion is never moral. We need to protect the most defenseless members of our society: babies in the womb.
No. In most cases the pregnacy could have been avoided (as in, not having sex), but regardless of how involved the woman was in the pregnancy (i.e., rape), there’s still a responsibility to the child. It’s definitely not the baby’s fault, and he/she has no say in the matter whatsoever. Abortion deprives these kids of a chance at life. I’ve seen this on a bumper sticker, and I think it applies here: “As a former fetus, I oppose abortion.” People are people, whether they’ve had a chance to fully develop or not.
any thought, any action has consequence….it’s your’s to decide what’s easier to live with…
Is it moral to kill an life because you find it inconvienent? NO
No, that’s selfish
Moral no… but valid
yes
I would say no there are way to many out there the baby could be given to….OK Dan I threw out a question on my site toward you and its not a put down but a inquisitive one on how in the world do you or are you able to go through so many post…..do you sleep,,,,,rest…. or maybe you blog in your sleep?….I find it impossible just to get through my few commenters …gotta be tough some days…..give us a post on this sometime….thanks
I can’t seem to answer that on account of this HUGE beam in my eye…
It’s yet another choice in the great chain of choices… a person should do only what they are prepared to live with the… rest… of… their… lives. I can understand outside influences, not thinking straight, a momentary lapse in judgement, a moment of weakness, in all, that does not, in any way, absolve you from having to face the consequences of those decisions… excuses excuses, just admit what happened, admit it wasn’t the smartest thing you could do, oh and here’s a novel idea, DON”T DO IT AGAIN… learn from your mistakes… it tends to make life just a tiny bit easier…
I think the first trimester of pregnancy is not even life. Sorry, but I think she has a choice. I think it’s a sin that you wouldn’t be able to take care of the child.
I’m pro-choice, I believe that a woman has the right to make her own decisions (however, I don’t personalyl agree with the women who continuely get abortion after abortion like it’s birthcontrol… but in the end, it’s their choice) . Those who are pro-life, don’t look at the long-run effects of having thousands of thousands of unloved, unsheltered, unwanted babies – Are you going to step up and take care of all the unwanted babies? Do you really want to see thousands more in foster care then what there already is? Are you going to step up and pay more into welfare because a woman was forced to have a baby she didn’t want and cannot financially support? What if it was your daughter.. what if she was raped by a family member and got pregnant – would you REALLY make her have that baby? I certainly wouldn’t – it’s traumatizing enough being in that situation, but to actually be forced to have and keep that baby – its just wrong in my book, and might I add disgusting – think of what kind of life that baby would have. I grew up around an incest family, I saw the pain they went through – I would never wish it on anyone. And to say it’s ok in this situation, but not in other situations (ex. financial situations, maturity, etc..) is just hypocritical….
No…thats MURDER! Sickening
is it moral for a man to leave a woman because of an unplanned pregnancy? is it moral for a man to rape a woman and cause the unplanned pregnancy. NO!
is it moral to abort a FETUS because the father left or there are not enough funds to raise the child and give it excellent care instead of sending him/her to an orphanage — i’m sorry a “home” — where they will be passed along from place to place without ever having a real home? ABSOLUTLY!
i love how 90% of the time it’s men who are “pro-life”. they always want force the woman to have the child, when they’re the ones who leave & don’t pay child support. ugh. [even though men can now be jailed for not paying, the mothers still do not receive checks because the men are imprisoned].
My body. My Uterus. My Vagina. My Morals. My life. My Choice.
Yes i’m pro-choice. Yes, you can kiss my ass.
If she is too young to have the baby, yes.
My sister has had 2 unplanned preganacies, and she thought of abortion, but my mom quickly reminded her abortion is not an answer, and i agree with her. abortion is just like murder. Just because the baby isn’t fully grwon doesn’t mean it’s not alive.
Oh christ. Ok, people keep saying “Blah blah the woman shouldn’t have had sex then.” Well, if she hadn’t, the child wouldn’t have existed anyway. So you’re saving something that’s not even alive yet, that wouldn’t have been alive either way. You’re contradicting yourselves. It’s not even alive when it’s a fetus, and it’s really not that difficult a concept to understand.
Dictionary – MORAL: conforming to a standard of right and good. Implies conformity of established sanctioned codes or accepted notions of right and wrong. The basic moral values of a community.
Some can argue that because the law allows it, then it is acceptable. I disagree. Murder is murder. Killing a child in the womb is the same as killing a child outside of the womb. I am at this minute waiting for my third grandchild. His name is Franklin. If he is not born tonight/tomorrow, he will be born on Sunday. He is alive and living inside my daughter and has been for the last nine months. If you think that a baby is just a fetus in the womb, then you haven’t seen an ultrasound with the baby moving and kicking around, sometimes even sucking on its thumb. Don’t ever tell me that it is “nothing” kicking around inside a womb. Soapbox special.
“Two wrongs don’t make a right.” Had to add that in. Rape, incest, unplanned…that child was created by God and deserves to be loved. If you can’t love that baby, then there are plenty of families out there just waiting for a baby to hold in their arms.
I’m with the no.
Love.
personally i think its immoral, but my truth may not be everyones’ truth. I don’t think its a good thing for the government to enforce morality, at least to a certain extent.
No.
I’ve been called a fascist and a monster for my strong stance against all abortion.
No. It is not moral.
Also, if someone wants to have sex, they should realize that pregnancy can occur, no matter what contraceptives you use.
Absolutely not. Even if it is from rape or incest, if you don’t want the baby, give it up for adoption so it can live.
i don’t think it’s moral. however, i think if a teenager gets pregnant and doesn’t want the kid, she should definitely be able to have an abortion. there are already enough kids who are screwed up because their parents were too young and neglected them.
NO. ABORTION is MURDER people.
get it through your heads.
would you have liked it if your mama murdered you because you were “unplanned”?
amanda
and i’d know about screwed up people, because my school is full of them. it’s really sad to see them give up just because they don’t have good parents…
Yeah.
Ugh, don’t get me started. The answer is no. I completely agree with Cat_fan. I couldn’t have articulated it better.
i mean, since there are so many kids in foster care and on welfare and all, let’s just muder them because people can’t afford to take care of them – it’s just the same thing as abortion, only the kids are older..right?
an unborn baby is NOT just a fetus – you ever listen to a heart beat in the womb? it’s pretty amazing …. every pregnant woman should have to see an ultrasound and listen to her babies heart before she decides whether or not to get an abortion.
amanda
no she and the guy knew what they both were doing and should of been smart to began with. i only find it moral or “okay” to kill an unborn baby when it was rape. because then she didnt ask to be rape. but having sex people of ages doing it know the consequences that comes along with it. my pregnancy was unplanned and i would have a hell of lot more things to do if i didnt have my daughter, but i couldn’t live with myself knowing i borted her because i was the one who was being irresponsible at the time.
it is her body. The morality is not for you nor I to answer…
Depends on the circumstances.
Who am I to say if it’s moral or not? A woman, in the end, has to make the best decision for herself. She’s the one that has to live with the decision.
No, if you have sex and you get pregnant and you didn’t want to, tough luck. give it up for adoption, don’t abort just because you can. it’s still murder
Hell to the no.
Well, my first opinion is that if she didn’t want to get pregnant, she shouldn’t have been having sex in the first place. But on second thought, if she doesn’t really want the baby enough to want to have an abortion, she shouldn’t be a mother anyways. It also depends on what the circumstances are. Say, if a young girl gets raped, an abortion would be appropriate.
-KrIsTiN-
no
no.. unless the pregnancy endangers their health and the health of the baby
Is it moral? That depends on the person’s conscience.
Should it be illegal? No.
Well, I’m all for women’s choice; if a woman doesn’t want to carry a baby for nine months, then she shouldn’t have to. However, I do NOT believe that abortion should be used as a method of birth control… just because a pregnancy is “unplanned” doesn’t make it morally right to abort the fetus; however, it’s still the woman’s choice.
NO, it’s not moral. It is murder. I can somewhat clear the need for abortion in my head because of a rape or if the mother’s life is in danger, but the vast majority of abortions take place because the two people involved did not adequately protect themselves. I cannot stand for a woman perfectly capable of reproducing who chooses to vacuum a defenseless human being out of her body, when there are so many women who can’t have a child and are desparate for one. Abortion is absolutely sickening.
You really want a flame war, don’t you?
I don’t think morals have anything to do with it. And it depends on what you mean by “unplanned”. Does that include rape?
Hey Dan thanks that is amazing and from what I have read your post are very informative thanks for answering my inquire….keep up the great work
I also don’t fully understand this whole “woman’s choice” thing. Your body? Yeah, okay. But only half your DNA. You didn’t create a baby by yourself, remember???? So, you’ll gain weight. You’ll have to buy maternity clothes. You’ll be pretty darn uncomfortable for the next 9 months. It’s pretty disgusting the whole notion of, I’d rather MURDER than carry around an extra 50 pounds or so for the next 9 months. For God’s sake, find a better argument than that. F-ing selfish is what you are.
Yes.
hellno.
No, I don’t think so.
absolutely not, the woman should take responsibility for her actions and not kill the child due to her own selfishness
adoption is always a choice as well
Depends on who the father is.
OH gosh what a question. Are you running for office this November?
“Two wrongs don’t make a right.” Had to add that in. Rape, incest, unplanned…that child was created by God and deserves to be loved. If you can’t love that baby, then there are plenty of families out there just waiting for a baby to hold in their arms. Posted 9/29/2006 at 10:13 PM by Aslans_daughter
But I will say that this just makes me want to vomit. You really have a loving god, don’t you? We all know the world needs more unwanted children so desperately that god has to go and make women get raped. Give me a break.
Maybe next time she could use a condom. Or heck, maybe avoid sex at all if she is not ready to face the potential consequences.
No.
it really depends how old the fetus is. i mean, if its like 3 weeks old, i wouldn’t really count that as LIFE LIFE itself. if its around 8-9 months, no, it shouldnt be aborted because thats pretty close to life. sometimes, u need to think about what is best for the child/fetus. are we going to let it go through life, if its uncared for? is that necessary? like whats in the child/fetuses best interest. and different circumstances affect the situation. a lot.
It is not moral, it is still murder and God punishes those who murder.
depends on when she finds out. if the baby is devloped enough then she should keep it. but they arn’t technically alive until after a few months. Honestly it’s up to them. I wouldn’t want to know I was born unwanted.
no. it’s her fault if she got pregnant. not the kid’s.
No, I don’t believe it’s moral to kill the baby. I agree that the baby shouldn’t pay because either the parents were both irresponsible or because it’s father was a violent bastard. If a woman doesn’t want to keep the baby she can seek out private adopition agencies to be sure her child goes into a loving home as opposed to the screwed up foster system.
It is such a hard call to make if you haven’t been there, and I sympathize with the trauma of being raped, but that life is still precious.
I also agree that a woman should have to hear the heartbeat and see the ultrasound before getting the abortion (at the very least)
if you can’t support the kid there is a feasible alternative that does not involve murder.
ADOPTION
good grief
we are a selfish people
and people generally do not get pregnant as a result of rape. so that is basically a non-issue – sounds like people are grasping at straws to me
amanda
in response to ladylibellule: “You really have a loving god, don’t you? We all know the world needs more unwanted children so desperately that god has to go and make women get raped. Give me a break.” um…it’s not God that is causing children to be unwanted. it’s us. it’s not God that’s causing women to get raped. it’s us. humans. we’re the ones screwing things up. point the finger in the right direction, hon. and to answer the question at hand…no, i don’t think it’s moral. something’s terribly wrong with our society when a life can be extinguished just for the sake of convenience. and as far as the whole abortion debate…wouldn’t our time and energy and efforts be put to sooooo much better use if we were trying to prevent these unwanted pregnancies in the first place??? educating our kids about healthy relationships, abstinence, or if they choose to engage in sex…safe sex? arguing about the morality of abortion hasn’t gotten us anyplace in the past 30 years. maybe it’s time we tried a different approach…
No. It’s not moral.
What’s up with all the pro-choice people saying it’s not moral? Why are you in favor of an immoral choice?
ah, touchy subject.
but i agree with others; moral is subjective.
I think it is a woman’s right to choose.
ABORTIONNNNNN!
One of my favorite topics.
That all depends what you mean by “unplanned”. Rape cases, sure. I do think that abortion shouldn’t be just another birth control for people who want to go out and have unprotected sex all the time. But I DEFINITELY think it’s neccessary to be legal. There are many who actually NEED it. They can’t support a child, they were raped, etc. Abortion being illegal would cause back-alley abortions, which would harm the “mother’s” rights too.
Yeah, I’m tired. Blahhh. Goodnight.
I’m all for freedom of choice. You can choose to have sex. You can choose to keep the baby. Or you can choose to put it up for adoption. Murder is not an option, in my opinion.
“It’s her choice, unless the baby can survive outside the mother’s womb, it’s not a real human yet, that’s how I see it.”
Right. It kills me when people say (and people I knwo HAVE said this).. “Stupid liberals are all for life, so why do they kill babies?” It’s not a baby, it’s a fetus. By the time it’s grown into a so called “baby”, abortions are.. well… real abortions only go up nto three months, right?
God made this child, yes, He did, he might have made this child to grow up in an unstable family that cannot support this child, or even better, God made this child by letting a stupid man rape a young girl, possibly ruining this young girl’s life forever.
What a wonderful, wonderful God.
murder, thats what thats called
If u dont want to deal with the responsibility of having a kid, dont have sex
if you dont want the baby… anyone ever hear of adoption?
why is that so difficult to understand??
Last time I checked, running people off the road because you’re late for work will get you penalized. Why shouldn’t killing another earn you some kind of penalty?
Mary and Joseph’s pregnancy was unplanned . . .
No, or we could just kill people simply because they caused an inconveniance….
Depends on your definition of “moral” and “unplanned.”
not really. it’s different like, if you’re really really young or your life would be endangered, but just because you don’t want it… that’s wrong.
No! The people did IT so they should know what to expect. They should know what the results of their actions can cause. so, NO abortion is not MORAL. It’s killing a life.
I think the only reason abortion should be allowed is if the pregnancy was caused by rape.
Its against all your morals if you have a religon generally speaking (like being Christain or Chatholic)
Well it is an Perfect option on MY plate if something HORRIBLE like that were to happen to me- and… I have been married for over 10 years. Pregnancy to me- honestly, means nothing but a giant inconvenience to me and my husband.
Besides it really is only a bunch of cells anyway.
Hurrah for CHOICE!!!
XoxoxoxoX
I am prochoice. I say whether a pregnancy is planned or unplanned (married or not), it is up to the woman. I am for birth control (& think we should focus on this issue more than abortion & better access to emergency contraception). For those that are so taken back on abortion, what are there thoughts on the war in Iraq and all are poor young (born) soldiers being killed (and the Iraqi’s). Peace!!
The woman wasn’t smart in this case, but I am pro-choice!! Abortion shouldn’t be used as a total replacement for birth control, and responsibility!
no.
No.
of course not!
Absolutely Not
NO. Abortion is never moral. We need to protect the most defenseless members of our society: babies in the womb.
Posted 9/29/2006 at 9:52 PM by chad9am
Is it moral to kill an life because you find it inconvienent? NO
Posted 9/29/2006 at 9:54 PM by RdKingClassic03
This is how I see it. I love when others do the work for me.
no
I don’t get it: how can people say that unless it can live on it’s own, it’s not life. Frankly, that’s contrary to modern science. Besides, they rely on: farmers, electricians, and doctors to name a few humans that they are dependant on. In the end, they will never admit anything as they have been rationalizing from the get go. That’s what you call it when you make up your mind right before you make up the reasons. Regardless of the reasons for the pregnancy, extinguishing a life is wrong; every bit as wrong as me killing someone else because they inconvienienced me.
Is it moral to post questions of this nature?
Is it ever moral to murder anyone?
No, never!!!!
Why yes it is. it’s her choice, not “God’s” choice.
-Jacob
Absolutely NOT.
no. a child houl not be killed for whatever reason, whether it be rape or the more common irresponsibility.
No. Even if you were raped and got pregant, it’s a human, a life, that’s being created. The baby could have grown up and found the cure for cancer or something else out there. Adoption is a better option. At least the kid would have a chance.
ohmadang…no you cant kill a baby cuz you weren’t careful..it aint the poor childs fault i hate abortion and can go on for hours.
heh, convenience should always comes first these days…..
Immoral. It’s not that hard to use protection.
Now THAT is a touchy subject, Dan. Points, man. Points*.
*Points are redeemable at all FakeMart stores across the state of Lacunaland.
I was conceived when my biological father forced my mother to have sex (she had left him because he was abusive). I will always be grateful that she allowed ME to decide whether my life was of value–and it is. If she had aborted me, then I would not exist-nor would my three beautiful children.
My two cents, Suzie
I once had an unplanned lawsuit, so i decided to kill thier lawyer. everything’s fine now
No
nope
It’s not moral, but sometimes we have to go against our morals. -Pro-choice
In instances of rape, yes.
Absolutely not.
Unfortunately, b/c the issue of abortion (killing of innocent human life) has been confused over the years with a (so-called) woman’s right to choose, the issue has become clouded. Do adult women have rights? Yes. But I also believe that they have responsibilities as well. A responsibility to both the father (funny how few people rarely ever talk about his rights) and to the unborn child that is growing inside of her.
Sady, we have been taught, thanks to evolution, that we are nothing more than animals that happen to be a bit smarter than the rest of the animal kingdom. By believing this lie, so many have placated their consiences into believing either that their isn’t a God or that they don’t have to live by His rules as set forth in the Bible. The very Bible that tells us of His love, mercy, and grace, is the same Bible that also defines life as beginning at conception. Not only is it morally wrong to have an abortion; it is murder.
pro life. if you are willing to have sex, then you sohuld be willing to deal with the consequences. god created sex for people to recreate. if you are worried about getting pregnant, get on the pill and use a condom.
once the sperm hit the egg, it has become a baby.
No, i dont’ think so, however my view is sort of split. i think the “morning after pill” is okay for girls who have been raped.- and that was definetly unplanned.
Of course not.
For the people who bring up the potential of a child leading a rough life – I know of quite a few people myself that would be terribly offended with the thoughts of these people. I’m willing to bet that just about everybody commenting here knows someone that had a rough childhood yet overcame adversity and is a wonderful person. To anyone bringing up this argument – Have you told these people in your life that they should’ve been aborted?
Abortion is never moral. Period. It is not a woman’s choice to murder another person. It is not HER body, not her choice. It is another human being.
UMM, if God created sex for people to procreate, why did God create infertile people??
Just wonderin.
>>>Wait – you asked if it was moral.
No, it’s not moral. It certainly isn’t, to lose a human life like that. But even if it’s not moral, the woman should choose. Afterall, she’s the one providing the baby with the nutrients neccesary to live. Posted 9/29/2006 at 9:52 PM by QuixoticallyAmazing<<<
i’m goingwith that one…
If I was facing the decision myself, I believe I would probably try my best to be able to keep the child. But it would be my choice, and I will not make my choice be anothers. If a choice is made to abort, then I’ll support that persons choice, its still perhaps a tragic situation, but some things in this world just are. Its fine and noble to put an unwanted child up for adoption, so others may have a chance to raise and love a child, and that again is a choice. I think the choices need to be made by the individual at hand.
NOT AT ALL.
No … it’s not moral.
Why bother asking this question, Dan?
I don’t think that’s moral, no…
I don’t personally agree with it, but I don’t think I have the right to tell her not to (therefore, I am pro-choice, even though I dislike abortion). I would just tell her to explore her options. I don’t women should think of abortion as a form of birth control.
It’s not ethical.
Is that different?
i would personally consider it moral because i wouldn’t consider the microscopic embryo as a human life. if she waited until, you know, eight months into her pregnancy…then we’d have a problem. otherwise, fine by me. what would truly be immoral would be someone outside the situation telling her what to do.
doesn’t that depend on the person’s morals?
Moral, not at all. And unlike some have suggested, morals are NOT SUBJECTIVE. God has created standards and a set of morals, based on His character. And like God and true morals, right and wrong are not just an agreed upon set of dos and don’ts that society come up with.
All about choice my friend.. Not morality
no. no. and well… maybe if.. no.
Nooo…
Murder is not moral.
Definitely not. It is murder. I fell pregnant when I was much younger and gave my child up for adoption. He is now 12 years old and I was lucky enough to meet with him and his family earlier this year. However inconvenient the pregnancy was every time I see him and his family it was worth it.
NO
No. That’s like…murder. He/she is an unborn CHILD.
Yes, I believe so.
NO. The only scenorio in which I would support aborting is if the mother was raped.
uh, no. I am pro choice, You have the choice to have sex as is like 99% of the cases for abortion. Sure, there are rape cases (that is to include all non consential forms of sex). But in that case there still is choice, you choose to give up the kid for adoption (agencies exist that will pay for your entire life for the entire time period), raise the kid, or commit murder and thus should go to jail. And last of all there are “medical” cases, which life to save and those are complicated decisions. Only in the case of one or the other will not live should it be considered. Only with prayer should the woman, doctor(s), father/husband, and/or parents be allowed to decide this question, the most difficult at all. I can say what I would do in this case if the choice was loose my wife or kid when that question comes up. But I would first vote to keep my wife and do everything possible to save the kid. A 24 week fetus does have some chance of survival so I would go on that with the best intentions and do a C-Section rather than abortion. That puts the life in God’s hands not ours. But if the case is the baby is in say the fallopian tube rather than uterus, then the baby won’t make it anyway and likely kill the mother so it is reasonable to believe abortion is the only option until medical science has a way to move the fetus and all related organs (placenta etc) to the uterus successfully. Lots to consider, but the first answer is no, choice was made with the decision to have sex in most cases, then only after that for strict life and death medical reasons should it be allowed.
Why don’t we ask Pam Stenzel what she thinks?
It’s the women’s choice. It’s wrong in my eyes. I would never do it but who am I to judge someone else.
If the answer has to be Y or N, then No. But …
While I discourage abortions, women can do whatever they want. It’s their child.
Yes. I’m pro-choice.
I dont believe in taking a life. If a person is raped then the person carrying the child can make a decision.
No. It’s not right. Unplanned pregnancies are a result of the woman’s action. If she didn’t want the slightest chance of a pregnancy, she shouldn’t have gotten her freak on. My daughter was an unplanned pregnancy, and she’s the best thing that’s happened to me. It was my responisbility, and so I did it. Plus, at three weeks the fetus has a heart beat. So unless you know right away that you’re pregnant and can abort before three weeks, you’re killing someone. And how would it feel to be a murderer because you wanted to have sex and didn’t want to deal with the consequences? Pretty bad, I’d wager.
I believe pro-choice is pro-abortion… however, I do not judge a woman who has or plans to do such a thing… God alone is judge. Hitler = 6,000,000 Jews…… Supreme Court = 40,000,000 unborn babies and counting…
Why do you ask questions like these?
You know that what pretty much all the awnsers are..
It’s all so obvious.
Murder is murder, so I’d have to say…NO!
It is amazing the lack of understanding about the sanctity of life……….sad and scary
It is not moral. It is wrong and it is sin. That is not my opinion. That is not my belief. It is the truth, no matter how I feel about it. Although, I don’t have much trouble with this truth.
I just had a baby girl three months ago, so yes my emotions are involved in the rest of my response.
All this talk of “fetus vs. child”… Do you realize that every single one of you was once a “fetus”? Is there some miraculous change in the womb when the “fetus” becomes a baby? I don’t think so. Fetus is merely a scientific term for the stage of maturity of a BABY. Everything happens for a reason. Everything. Yes, I mean everything.Katrina, Sept. 11, the war in Iraq, unplanned pregnancies–even those caused by rape. As someone has already said, when the sperm hit the egg, a baby was made. A life was created. Who are you to cut off the chance for life in the midst of tragedy? And all this talk about how awful the child’s life will be or could be–what about how wonderful it might be? What about the amazing PERSON within those “bunch of cells”? We are not just bodies–we are mind and spirit. A baby has a body, a mind, and a spirit. At about four months I could feel my baby girl squirming around. That’s when I could *feel* it. She’d been moving the whole time, moving when *she* wanted to. A “fetus” is a baby. There is no way anyone can know for sure that to kill an unborn child would be better for the child, for the world, for themselves. No way. And as for the “trauma and pain” of carrying a child for nine months to go through labor in the birth–bullcrap. Trauma and pain?? Only if they are complications with the pregnancy would I ever consider the experience trauma. Besides, there’s so many things you can do to make labor easier. Heck, people schedule C-sections these days. And I still insist that a woman should complete her journey because she’s not alone. It’s not “her” body. She was given that body by God, who, praise His name, gave her parents enough sense to not kill her before she was born.
My mom was adopted. Her birth mother was only 16 when she had my mom. And my mom thanks God that she wasn’t aborted. When she was in her early forties, my mom had a miscarraige. She didn’t know she was pregnant. We mourned the loss of that baby. We also have faith that we will meet that baby someday in God’s presence (which is a whole ‘nother can of worms…) Life is always better than choosing death for someone else. It’s not pro-choice to back out and say “well it’s up to the individual.” That’s just copping out of issue. That’s saying, “I’m uncomfortable with rules that apply to all people at all times.” I know for a fact that abortion would never have been an issue for my mom, had she been able to carry that baby. Pregnancy is not an inconvenience. It’s way more than something so petty. It is a responsibility (yes I used that word) to carry a life that God has chosen to put on this earth. Who are you to say what that baby’s life will be like? Did you form him? Who are you to say that the baby would not be a redemption for the situation? I see it as a chance for the parents of the child to turn to God, to buckle down and become adults for the sake of someone else since they couldn’t do it for themselves. As for the whole rape idea, how wonderful if something good can come of something so evil. Yes that’s what I said. Wonderful. That child has a chance to live a life that stops the cycle of violence and sin. That child has the chance to begin a new generation that obeys God instead of rebelling against Him. Every person has potential. Who are you to snuff it out?
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~Victoria
It is between her and God.
“uhhh, i’m gonna back out on this one, because I know this is gonna get ugly.” True that! IMO If you have sex, then you are comitting to a child. No exceptions, cept maybe rape >_>
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Totally wrong. If they couldn’t control themselves, they need to carry the responsibility.
No!
I think selfish, irresponsible, lazy, narrow-minded, cruel, coldhearted, unjust, or murder may have been the words you were looking for, Dan.
nope
eh… not really
not moral, it’s murder
No, it’s not moral. Abortion isn’t a moral choice in any situation.
Dan, of COURSE not. One of my children was unplanned, but never unwanted!
No, I believe it is not moral.
As an adopted child I am very very thankful that my biological mother chose to give me the chance of living! I don’t think anyone has the right to end my life whether I am two weeks old in the womb or 20 years old. My parents had to wait over 4 years before I was born and could join the family.
Of course having an unwanted pregnancy is going to be tough on a woman. That human is growing inside her! She can’t just leave the situation.
I look at it this way. Yes, horrible things happen. Rape is wrong and terrible. However, giving a child up for adoption is one of the greatest gifts you can ever give.
If it is an unplanned pregnancy and the couple or the mother is unable to provide for her child, I believe adoption is the solution. There are thousands of couples unable to have children and they are waiting to adopt. This allows the mother to not have to suffer with having made the choice to abort and allows the child their chance at life.
When speaking of choice. I believe choosing to have sex is a choice. Sex is designed to produce offspring. If you are not ready for children then choose not to have sex or choose to use contraception.
Let me know what you think, my xanga is dawn2faith.
how can people say “well i dont know about moral, but i will support your choice”? nobody has the right to end another life because of a matter of convienence. there shouldnt be a choice.
MORAL?it is sth established to protect the interest of majority,i think.
Can a unwanted,unexpected child contribute to the society?Of coz,he has the chance,but that’s not likely due to the parenting provided by his parents.
So,that’s definitely moral.Abortion has just eliminate another potential criminal and protect the majority of this society.
as long as she’s too young (teens and young 20s), has a medical problem or something like that, or she has been raped. it’s fine then. it’s not a form of birth control though. abortions can make you infertile, and i would much rather be able to have kids someday than not.
Thank GOODNESS after all of these posts- that I can go get one whenever I want! It is still my choice and it is still safe and legal!
Here is to Women and to Pro-Choice! My body…my control.
I couldnt speak on the morality of a heathen but here, in the Land of Lori Logic and in Gods country there is no excuse int he world for killing your baby.
No, its not moral but it should still be the decision on the woman. But this is not where they need to start. If it is so immoral then why don’t the churches take a more active role in training the kids and the parents about these morals before this happens?
Its not moral. But I’m not anti-abortion.
^This is the stance I cannot understand. If it is not moral, how can you be anything other than anti-abortion?
would you like me to kill you for showing up unannounced???
> And then its back around the pony post without a definition…. When is it viable life: conception, 1st or 2nd trimester? To each his/her own! I’m now and forever will be pro-choice. Sometime unpleasant choices have to be made. Too bad you can’t please all the people all the time! Thank you P.T. BARNUM1 Morality!!!! So much dumb wrong shit is done in the name of morality!
Peace. anyway
I’ve read some opinions that if the “fetus” can not survive outside the mother’s womb then it is not a human life. Umm… anyone ever see a newborn that can get up and fix a bottle in the middle of the night? Or change it’s own diaper? Seems to me even after birth they can’t survive without their mothers. So I suppose a baby isn’t a human life even after birth?
In regards to the pregnancy endangering the mother’s health: My mother was told to abort me because she was so sick. She opted not to. She lived through it depsite being hospitalized almost three months afterward. My son was unplanned. The doctor would’ve told me to abort had I not been 36 weeks before I even went to the doctor. I was unconscious in ICU afterward. I lived through it. My son has been the greatest thing in my life… depsite his father wanting nothing to do with him.
My ex-boyfriend was the result of rape. His mother carried him to full term and raised him. He was the only child she was ever able to have.
Two of my friends were both children of 16 year old mothers who opted to have them and give them up for adoption at birth.
In any case, I cannot see how abortion is moral when I’ve seen so many outcomes to “unplanned” pregnancies.
No, it’s not. BUT neither is forcing a woman (she being the one providing the life, after all) to have a baby when she knows that she could not raise it like it should be raised.
i’m not for abortion, but in some cases its better than young kids not getting any prenatal and therefore having sick babies that will be dumped into the system once they realize they can’t take care of them or want them.
I guess if she was raped. I don’t see why she should have to suffer through an agonizing birthing, the side effects of pregnancy, and her dreams for the career and life she always wanted just because some guy was too horny to think straight.
People say ‘Don’t kill an unborn baby!!’ but don’t consider what the girl has to go through.
I know it’s probably not moral. But it’s a woman’s body and she can do what she wants.
Well it depends. Maybe the mother won’t survive the prengency, then yes she could if she wants. If she get pregeant from rape, the yes. (It happens) It’s the women that has a choice no-one elses.
I don’t think it’s a moral thing. But what I think is going to be different from the woman next to me and because of that I believe it should be legal. If a female finds herself in a bind with an unplanned pregnancy, no one is forcing her to have an abortion. If it clashes with her morals, she can do what’s good for her and give birth.
This is going to sound a little rude, but I don’t think men should have as much involvement in the abortion matter. You don’t have a uterus! Don’t tell women what is moral or immoral if you’ll never be in the position of having to choose.
you have no business bringing a child into the world if you are unable to care for it. that hurts both of you.
I don’t think I get to decide what is and/or is not moral for someone else. . . AND I fully support a woman’s right to have a choice (legally!) about what she feels is best to do with her pregnancy.
Short answer: no. I’ll have to come back to give my long, impassioned answer later.
If it doesn’t have a will to live, it’s just a mistake. If it has a will to live, she is punishing it for something that’s her own fault.
no, it’s not
“Can a unwanted,unexpected child contribute to the society?Of coz,he has the chance,but that’s not likely due to the parenting provided by his parents.”
Okay, so if I understand that comment, it’s our PARENTS’ fault for how we end up. Right? Blame goes to our circumstances, right? “His dad abused him when he was five. Of course he’s an abusive father to his own! He had no other likely lifestyle, now did he?”
Just because someone’s life is hard DOES NOT MEAN they are automatically destined to follow in the footsteps of those before them. Sure it’s likely. But there’s still a significant choice. And that significant choice should be made by the person it’s for. Not by their parents or the government or anyone else.
I can’t believe this…
~Victoria
No way! Taking a life would only make things so much worse.
I do not think it’s moral just because it’s an unplanned pregnancy. I don’t think abortion is moral at all, but I also don’t think it’s my right to push my beliefs on someone. So, it is not moral, but everyone’s concept of morality is different.
Would it be moral for me to perform a postpartum abortion on anyone that aborts their child?
I think it’s insane to have sex with someone without using a contraceptive [check that spelling when you get a minute] and expecting not to get pregnant. Unless the female has polycystic ovarian syndrome, in which case it’s more unlikely that she should get pregnant, but let’s be realistic here. If I find a gun lying in the road and point it at my head, should I automatically assume nothing will happen?
not from my perspective
why not give up the baby for adoption??
I would never do it, but while I personally belive to do it isn’t right, I can’t speak for the morals of others. I leave it up to them to decide what is ”right”.
I can’t decide what is moral for someone else (plus I hate it when people use the word “moral” to describe their feelings about political issues). I do think it’s irresponsible, and that the whole situation would be better if abortion weren’t banned, but abstinence-only sex ed were. Then you put money into public service announcements and other advertising, sex education, and birth control. If you’re smart about things, then there shouldn’t be so much of a need for abortion.
Rape, planned pregnancy, whatever happens, it is never right to kill a baby. A baby is a life BEFORE conception. People are made in the image of God, and Psalms 139 confirms that God knows us before we were even born. So pro-choice….uh, you had a choice, you made it when you had sex. Rape? Unfortunately, it’s not the baby’s fault that this is a screwed up world that finds you in the tough circumstances. Therefore, abortion is never alright…NEVER!
NO! I have a blog about that “Plan B” pill that came out on my myspace page. It started with the pill & condoms, then abortion, now “plan B” and things are not going to get any prettier. But if you can’t put a value on a life, even while it is being developed, then you aren’t placing much value on life outside of the womb either. Abortion is wrong. There are special circumstances like in the case of rape, that I feel it is between that person and God, and no one can judge anyone justifiably anyway, but no one can ever convince me that abortion os right, because it isn’t.
i’d say yeah
I wish more people had commented on adoption. I know someone who has been on a waiting list for a long time to adopt a baby.
And yet none of you know why women may get an abortion. It’s a personal issue for everybody, and every single case is different.
I know for a fact that NONE of you who are ‘anti abortion’ give two shits about any of the fetuses that are aborted every day, month or year. You personally don’t care about them, their mother, her choice, her reason. You’re just pissed because its an issue you don’t understand. Hopefully you’ll never be in that position to make a choice like that. Until then, quit hating these ‘horrible women’ for doing what is best for them, and in most cases, best for the fetus.
No!!! How can it be moral to kill a child.
I don’t think that abortion should be used as birth control in any way. However, I remain pro-choice because it is a woman’s body, and I don’t think that anyone but her should be able to make the decision whether or not to terminate the pregnancy. It depends on the situation as to whether or not I believe it is right…but definitely in the cases of rape and incest. If I became pregnant, and it was unplanned, I wasn’t in a relationship, and I had no source of income or insurance, etc., I am not sure what I would do. I could say now that I would not have an abortion, and I would give it up for adoption instead– but until you are in that situation, you really can’t know for sure what you would do, and I’m sure many people will disagree with me on that. That’s why I love America…you have the right to disagree and give your opinion, and I can keep mine.
NO!!
I think it’s insane to have sex with someone without using a contraceptive [check that spelling when you get a minute] and expecting not to get pregnant. Unless the female has polycystic ovarian syndrome, in which case it’s more unlikely that she should get pregnant, but let’s be realistic here. If I find a gun lying in the road and point it at my head, should I automatically assume nothing will happen? Posted 9/30/2006 at 1:09 PM by This_Is_Important
I have Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome…
I thought I should let you know…it’s still insane not to use a contraceptive when you have PCOS…you made a good point about the gun lying in the road…I agree with that.
However…
I did something, and made a mistake…and didn’t use a contraceptive. Thankfully, I wasn’t pregnant, but that’s not because of my PCOS…there were other reasons. However, there was a scare, and if I were pregnant…I am not sure what I would have done with the baby.
NOOOOOOO. Abortion is wrong no matter what! It’s your damn fault you got pregenant you unprotected whore. If you get pregenant, unplanned or not, you should live with the consequences of your own actions, it’s your fault you weren’t careful, so now that you fucked up your life, deal with it. I’m so against abortion, why would people even come up with that idea????? SDJKFERKLFTHJKERFLDHK
RAWR! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
I just love all the people saying that it’s best for the baby if the mom gets an abortion. Life is a chance to make a difference in the lives of others, not a trip to the circus. It’s not about doing whatever you want, and complaining if things get tough. The kid might have a crappy life, and might not–who are you or anyone to decide that since it might be hard it would be better not to live? And going to a private adoption center will give the child a better chance at the good life, since potential adoptive parents are looked at hard to be sure that they would take care of him/her properly.
Well, I believe that it’s your decision.
But personally, I would never do that if I were capable of taking care of it. If I weren’t, then I suppose it’s fine.
If you want to have sex, and don’t want to get pregnant, use the appropriate damn measures to keep yourself from getting pregnant. I’m very pro-choice, but I certainly don’t approve of people who screw around and get pregnant “by accident” and decide to have an abortion.
Everyone that says she could or should have been smarter is assuming that she wasn’t. Unplanned pregnancies happen to responsible people whose bodies react funny to birth control which causes a woman to still get pregnant, or to responsible people whose condom happened to break, or had a tear no one saw. A raped woman who in turn becomes pregnant wasn’t being an idiot… she was being a victim. So unless you know the story behind every unplanned pregnancy don’t generalize and say she was being stupid.
It depends on her views. I’m pro-choice because I think it’s sick that men dictate what women can do with their bodies and what happens to be developing in them (Hey, Mr. Pope and the predominantly-male-leader Church, I’m talking to your Infalliability…). That’s not right. Now, abortion is such a sensitive subject. I don’t think it’s necessarily morally right, but it is when it is the women’s right to choose. If people stop dictating whether or not it’s right to abort, maybe there will be less abortions in the first place. The context in which the abortion occurs is NEVER the same… there are always differences. Which is why it should not become illeagalized, because, correct me if I’m wrong, alot of women who get pregnant without planning to will keep the child. The situations in which the abortion occurs are different, and up to the woman to decide if it’s right or wrong.
I think that the only time that abortion should be allowed is when it’s incest or rape, because if the woman goes out, has sex willingly, and gets pregnant because of her own choice to have sex, then she should have to deal with the consequences. And after having the baby, you can give it up for adoption if you’re really not ready for a child.
If your not ready for a baby, don’t have sex. Simple as that.
I don’t agree with using abortion as birth control but I think it’s moral to have an abortion because of an unplanned pregnancy. I don’t know how many of you have actually had to ever make the choice of keeping a child or having an abortion (I’m guessing a few) but if you haven’t had to make that choice I really hope you never have too. The fact is it’s one of the hardest choices you’ll ever have to make, if you’re looking at taking care of a child for at least the next 18 years you have to be finacially stable, you have to know you can provide a decent life. Adoption? Sure, but not all kids get adopted people, there’s plenty who live their lives in orphanages or in and out of foster homes. That’s not a life for a kid either. In the end it’s a personal choice, a hard personal choice, I wouldn’t do it but I do believe in that right to choose.
Oh, to the people who are saying that a woman should “deal with the consequences”, if you’re thinking of a child as a consequence then you’re definitely not ready to carry a child for 9 months or raise one for 18 years.
I certainly wouldn’t judge her but the woman can always put the child up for adoption…but if she doesn’t have the money to provide well for herself and maybe her other children…or child….she probably should get an abortion.
no
i believe that abortion is wrong, but imagine how the world would be if we didnt have abortion. the earth is getting so full with people and we are causing so much waste, we’d probably be dead right now. the earth can only last for so long, and we’re trashing it. also, there are alot of very irresbonsible people who are having these abortions. some of these people choose to have the kid anyways, just imagine, that poor kid has to grow up in poverty with drug abusing parents. he/she will probably do nothing more than end up in a gang or doing the same as their parents. i think that people should have to pay a huge fine that goes towards people in poverty or furthering education. yes abortion is wrong, but it is necessary for our life here on earth
no. its not moral. there are alot of women who would love to have a baby, but cant. so why, if u can have a baby, kill it. put it up for adoption, and make someones life better, and give the baby a good home.
Here’s one. Once a doctor was perfoming an abortion and the “unborn fetus” reached out of the mother and grabbed the doctor’s finger and held on before that baby was mercilessly killed. And yes, that’s a true story – I saw a picture. The doctor never performed another abortion in his life.
So there are really two questions: 1) Is it morally correct for a girl who is not married to go out and get pregnant? And if it’s too late, is it morally correct to kill a living breathing child?
Even if a girl was raped (which doesn’t happen too often in real life) is it still right to kill someone who wasn’t involved in that wrong and is completely deffensless?
I think the world would be a better place if we thought of the price the unborn pay for our convenience. That is really what it boils down to.
When a woman thinks more highly of herself than her child the world is askew.
abortion, no matter what angle you are coming from is selfish. do i understand the selfishness? yes. but there is always adoption, and it seems like people just ignore that option because they don’t want to deal with it. if you are going to make a crappy parent then give it up, please! but there are hundreds of thousands woman who are dying for a baby to love and take care of.
Meh, I don’t think its moral, and my statement isn’t backed up by any “books” or anything like that. I simply feel that if you have the guts to kill the kid before he’s out of the womb, I think you should be able to shoot the kid in the face when he’s four and the husband isn’t paying child support and he just cost you your job. Its more or less the same thing in my mind.
So, if murder is moral, then yes, murdering an unborn child is moral. Yes, its a woman’s body, but the child inside is its own self. If you can kill a child in the first year, then you should be able to kill them in those rebellious teen years.
When you look it from a logistical standpoint… which took me a long time to do (with the situation being clouded from both sides of the equation)… its hard to find support for abortions logical, as if left unchecked, the child/fetus will be born and grow.
Obviously there are extenuating circumstances, such as when the life of the mother is in jeopardy… which occurs in the late term…. making late term abortions largely irrational, as from what I understand, the life threatening abortions make up the majority of late term abortions. I dunno, just my 2 cents.
no. even if it was a rape child or otherwise unwanted. abortion is probably the worst thing a woman could go through..though I’m not experienced in the matter..but yea the procedure I’ve read and listen to presentations about the whole abortion issue and its a sick twisted invention we have made to protect ourselves from responsibility.
I find it interesting that so many people write they’re pro-choice, yet say it would not be immoral. To me, it just seems like a contradiction to choose something that you admit is immoral.
not moral. ever.
If the damn girl was raped.. and having the child would pose the possibility of killing the mother, etc. etc.
You see where I’m going with this?
Morals are perceived.. right and wrong are perceived.
I stand neutral.
Is it moral to bring a child into this world with no way to shelter, feed, love, or care for it?
By the way, to the person who talked about the baby holding a doctor’s hand..
The baby wasn’t aborted, to the best of my recollection.
I don’t like abortion, but I am pro-choice. I think that aborting a baby because it was an unplanned pregnancy is wrong though. It seems like the easy way out.
It’s MURDER!!!!!! You people are CRAZY!!!!!! Killing someone is MURDER!!!! The world is so messed up right now and God is looking at us saying, “what are the thinking?!?!?!?!??”! And when we all have to go before God at the end, and all you have aborted babies, will be titled murderers. Even if they are the best person in the world, even if it was an accident, even if it was a rape, even if it was the male FORCEING the female to have an abortion, it is murder. Think about it…..if the mother of Isaac Newton had decided on an abortion, were would we be? Same applies to Columbos, Darwin, Twain, Shakespear, William (Bill) Gates, Washington, William Wallace, Churchill, Mel Brooks. The millions of murdered babies could have had the best life anyone has ever seen and changed the world…..and YOU have taken that oprotunity away from them because YOU say we have ‘rights’.
Please, you don’t know what you’re saying until you’ve been in that situation.
I don’t care how many times a woman has sex, you should have the right to do what you want to do with your body.
If you have a penis, don’t even began to think you can imagine what it’s like.
I like how people can hate God because He lets bad things happen. I mean, it’s not like it’s our fault, and besides, I think that SOMEONE should hold God himself accountable. Actually wait… No I don’t; I hate that. Yes, it just so happens that all the human players are HUMANS (arguably), so it IS our fault. Good luck with the last one.
Sorry Dan, but she started it, and if you don’t want me throwing sand, can I put rocks in my snowballs?
If you aren’t ready for a baby emotionally of financially I don’t believe you should have one. It’s about $600 give or take for an aborion. Having a baby costs way more. Ultrasounds cost about $1000 a piece. I don’t think it is very fair to bring a baby in the world if you can’t really afford it. Having a baby can mess up a person’s entire life if they didn’t plan on it. To people who say a fetus can’t kill anyone, What about if the baby is dangerous to both “lives” the mother and the fetus. Shouldn’t a pregnant woman have the option of abortion if the fetus could kill her? Having a baby that will make you poor can lead to a slow death also. The stress of trying to have 3 jobs, and feeling bad because you still can’t take care of your child properly, because you aren’t there when they get off school and you can’t afford proper child care, so they have to stay at home alone and care for themselves, What about that slow death? It is proven that stress can cause sickness, sickness that can eventually kill. There are plenty of other reasons.
and you have to basically take care of a baby for 18 years that is a pretty huge commitement.
depends on the circumstances.
no.
No. Sex produces children, I think we’ve started to forget that. Accept your responsibilities, carry the child to term, adn give it up for adoption. Since when do we have the right to end a life just because it’s inconvienent? Maybe that’s why kids go into schools and kill each other. They know that we’ve created a society where they have no value anymore.
No… I can understand it… but, it’s still murder… you’re killing something that has a life… so it is murder… something that will be human, and even more so something that is a part of you. I mean, it really would be hard to have a kid at a young age, or to just not be ready for one and all of a sudden you’re pregnant, and the idea would appeal to me too… but I could never do it… I know I will never have premarital sex, but if I got raped or something, I’d birth it and raise it no matter what…
i think it is a very responsible choice. and i think there is nothing moraly wrong with it up to a certain point in the pregnancy. if you do it early enought, what you are aborting is not even a “baby”… it is a piece of tissue. it has no brain, no heart, and it can’t feel anything.
if it actually looks like a baby/fetus… that is where it is wrong.
Is it moral…NO! What kind of morals are killing an innocent life of whom NO matter WHAT happened is not their fault. They deserve a chance to live. A good moral hmm “be responsible.” Most of the time not the countless what “ifs” people just aren’t careful. I don’t think it should be used as an easy fix.
No. I don’t believe it’s moral, in fact I’m very much against it – in theory. Realistically, I don’t think it should be illegal. I don’t think the government has the right to say that, and it will still be done if it’s illegal, only in more dangerous, illegitimate situations.
Absolutely not.
pro-choice
Some people keep on saying “it’s murder It’s murder” Well. how about when you killed a bug, a fish any “life”. That’s murder also. And I know that people will start saying that a human isn’t the same as a bug or another creature. It’s just kinda pisses me off when people say “God punishes all people that murders” when they probably killed a couple of things in their lifetime too. Well, that’s just my opinion
that’s so silly - it’s like this: you have sex, and you are actually *surprised* with the natural results! ROTFL!!!
No. It’s not. People who aren’t prepared to take on the adult resonsibility to have a baby should keep their pride tied in the first place! I saw a bilboard sign that featured one human egg on one side, and about a hundred human sperm on the other heading toward the egg. the caption went something like: “don’t like the odds? don’t do it! “unplanned”? How stupid of an excuse can a woman have?
Cowboy
By the way, in response to “SilverSupraz’s” comment:
In the Bible, God never refers to murder being killing ANYTHING other than another human being. And who are WE to decide when life actually starts? Would you want to err on the side of “too careful” rather than taking a chance and taking another human being’s life?
Some things are just common-sense-wrong.
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!
People place too much value on human life, if you ask me.
It’s not the babies fault she’s irresponsible. The baby shouldn’t have to die for her msitake. I find the biggest reason people find it okay to kill babies is that they don’t think it’s a human child. The fact is IT’S A HUMAN AT CONCEPTION. The whole argument about it just being a fish tracing from evolutionary roots is the biggest load of crap I’ve ever heard of. And what’s more, the guy that first said it was true was a lyer. Earnst Haeckel, a university embryologist from Germany, made a drawing to try and prove evolutionary theory by showing evolutionary processes in our own development. It was proven that his drawings were a fraud, and his own university convicted him of it. Yet over 100 years later, it’s still in our text books, and still screwing our society’s morals. Go to http://www.drdino.com for more proof against evolution and the like.
bad_grammar, By your own admission, no one should take you seriously. Is that right?
Is it wrong to abort a child if it won’t be loved and appreciated?
No.
You be put in the situation. I’ve never been in it, but it’s not my place to judge. I am not in their shoes.
no.
NO, NO, NO, a million times, NO.
NO. And any woman that gets pregnant form being raped in a hospital bed, should be ALLOWED prenatal care and to be able to TRUMP any decision made about whether she can keep the baby, let alone, HAVE THE BABY. A pet-peave of mine, because: “It happened to ME.” An attempt was made to abort the baby, by hospital staff. The baby was born in the process, once they cut off its arms. It survived, and had arms attatched, later, so he could run and play like other children. The thing is: the whole thing was a disincentive for me, a mentally ill person getting pregnant out of wedlock, and trying to go the whole gestation period for it to be born. I was also in a mental hospital at the time. The doctors involved did not care about human life (the life of a fetus) or anybody’s rights as a decent, respective human being, ME. They made improper decisions, and they were medically incompetant, there at Oregon State Hospital in 1773-1974, in my opinion.
No. Never.
How can there be any Morality in Abortion?!. When you are killing a helpless babies,when you should be caring & loving him/her?!. & if you really think that it is not convinient/afford to raise a child you should have been smarter or stop spreading your legs wide open!. & then when you found out that you are pregnant you are going to get abortion when you could have prevented it. Your mistakes is not your child’s mistake.he/she shopuld not be the one to suffer.
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first!!!
Well no . . . this can really get ugly
Well, if they like raw unprotected sex, they have to carry the consequences unless they could go to the damm pharmacy and buy Plan B. Now, we’re even!
I don’t know about moral… but I’m for pro-choice.
>_>
It’s irresponsible is what it is… but I’m all for pro-choice.
not moral, or right
It’s her choice, unless the baby can survive outside the mother’s womb, it’s not a real human yet, that’s how I see it.
Morals are subjective.
blehhhh
NO!!! but I don’t judge women who do…..if they are that selfish they would have sucked as a mother…….JIMMY HAT
nope. she should have been smarter
I’m pro-choice. I don’t know about moral. But what if a young girl is raped? Is she expected to go through the trauma and pain just because of something that was not her fault?
Pro-choice.
It wasn’t her fault. Even if the guy has all sorts of protection – there’s still a chance that she can get pregnant.
Hell, I’ve always got a coat-hanger for a rape-victim in need!
And Chocobo – it’s said to be rare that you get pregnant from getting raped. That’s what I’ve heard. I don’t recall a rape case where the woman became pregnant, afterall, even thought it’s a possibility.
no.
uhhh, i’m gonna back out on this one, because I know this is gonna get ugly.
No.
That’s called reaping what you sow.
Wait – you asked if it was moral.
No, it’s not moral. It certainly isn’t, to lose a human life like that. But even if it’s not moral, the woman should choose. Afterall, she’s the one providing the baby with the nutrients neccesary to live.
there’s a difference between rape, and an unplanned pregnancy due to consentual sex.
I’d say yes it is wrong, but I’m also against making it illegal. I think if we as the church did our jobs better of helping those in need and not just condemning them for being pregnant a lot of abortions would be avoided. If you criminalize them, it’s going to continue to happen – just in very unsafe ways.
NO. Abortion is never moral. We need to protect the most defenseless members of our society: babies in the womb.
No. In most cases the pregnacy could have been avoided (as in, not having sex), but regardless of how involved the woman was in the pregnancy (i.e., rape), there’s still a responsibility to the child. It’s definitely not the baby’s fault, and he/she has no say in the matter whatsoever. Abortion deprives these kids of a chance at life. I’ve seen this on a bumper sticker, and I think it applies here: “As a former fetus, I oppose abortion.” People are people, whether they’ve had a chance to fully develop or not.
any thought, any action has consequence….it’s your’s to decide what’s easier to live with…
Is it moral to kill an life because you find it inconvienent? NO
No, that’s selfish
Moral no… but valid
yes
I would say no there are way to many out there the baby could be given to….OK Dan I threw out a question on my site toward you and its not a put down but a inquisitive one on how in the world do you or are you able to go through so many post…..do you sleep,,,,,rest…. or maybe you blog in your sleep?….I find it impossible just to get through my few commenters …gotta be tough some days…..give us a post on this sometime….thanks
I can’t seem to answer that on account of this HUGE beam in my eye…
It’s yet another choice in the great chain of choices… a person should do only what they are prepared to live with the… rest… of… their… lives. I can understand outside influences, not thinking straight, a momentary lapse in judgement, a moment of weakness, in all, that does not, in any way, absolve you from having to face the consequences of those decisions… excuses excuses, just admit what happened, admit it wasn’t the smartest thing you could do, oh and here’s a novel idea, DON”T DO IT AGAIN… learn from your mistakes… it tends to make life just a tiny bit easier…
I think the first trimester of pregnancy is not even life. Sorry, but I think she has a choice. I think it’s a sin that you wouldn’t be able to take care of the child.
I’m pro-choice, I believe that a woman has the right to make her own decisions (however, I don’t personalyl agree with the women who continuely get abortion after abortion like it’s birthcontrol… but in the end, it’s their choice) . Those who are pro-life, don’t look at the long-run effects of having thousands of thousands of unloved, unsheltered, unwanted babies – Are you going to step up and take care of all the unwanted babies? Do you really want to see thousands more in foster care then what there already is? Are you going to step up and pay more into welfare because a woman was forced to have a baby she didn’t want and cannot financially support? What if it was your daughter.. what if she was raped by a family member and got pregnant – would you REALLY make her have that baby? I certainly wouldn’t – it’s traumatizing enough being in that situation, but to actually be forced to have and keep that baby – its just wrong in my book, and might I add disgusting – think of what kind of life that baby would have. I grew up around an incest family, I saw the pain they went through – I would never wish it on anyone. And to say it’s ok in this situation, but not in other situations (ex. financial situations, maturity, etc..) is just hypocritical….
No…thats MURDER! Sickening
is it moral for a man to leave a woman because of an unplanned pregnancy? is it moral for a man to rape a woman and cause the unplanned pregnancy. NO!
is it moral to abort a FETUS because the father left or there are not enough funds to raise the child and give it excellent care instead of sending him/her to an orphanage — i’m sorry a “home” — where they will be passed along from place to place without ever having a real home? ABSOLUTLY!
i love how 90% of the time it’s men who are “pro-life”. they always want force the woman to have the child, when they’re the ones who leave & don’t pay child support. ugh. [even though men can now be jailed for not paying, the mothers still do not receive checks because the men are imprisoned].
My body. My Uterus. My Vagina. My Morals. My life. My Choice.
Yes i’m pro-choice. Yes, you can kiss my ass.
If she is too young to have the baby, yes.
My sister has had 2 unplanned preganacies, and she thought of abortion, but my mom quickly reminded her abortion is not an answer, and i agree with her. abortion is just like murder. Just because the baby isn’t fully grwon doesn’t mean it’s not alive.
Oh christ. Ok, people keep saying “Blah blah the woman shouldn’t have had sex then.” Well, if she hadn’t, the child wouldn’t have existed anyway. So you’re saving something that’s not even alive yet, that wouldn’t have been alive either way. You’re contradicting yourselves. It’s not even alive when it’s a fetus, and it’s really not that difficult a concept to understand.
Dictionary – MORAL: conforming to a standard of right and good. Implies conformity of established sanctioned codes or accepted notions of right and wrong. The basic moral values of a community.
Some can argue that because the law allows it, then it is acceptable. I disagree. Murder is murder. Killing a child in the womb is the same as killing a child outside of the womb. I am at this minute waiting for my third grandchild. His name is Franklin. If he is not born tonight/tomorrow, he will be born on Sunday. He is alive and living inside my daughter and has been for the last nine months. If you think that a baby is just a fetus in the womb, then you haven’t seen an ultrasound with the baby moving and kicking around, sometimes even sucking on its thumb. Don’t ever tell me that it is “nothing” kicking around inside a womb. Soapbox special.
“Two wrongs don’t make a right.” Had to add that in. Rape, incest, unplanned…that child was created by God and deserves to be loved. If you can’t love that baby, then there are plenty of families out there just waiting for a baby to hold in their arms.
I’m with the no.
Love.
personally i think its immoral, but my truth may not be everyones’ truth. I don’t think its a good thing for the government to enforce morality, at least to a certain extent.
No.
I’ve been called a fascist and a monster for my strong stance against all abortion.
No. It is not moral.
Also, if someone wants to have sex, they should realize that pregnancy can occur, no matter what contraceptives you use.
Absolutely not. Even if it is from rape or incest, if you don’t want the baby, give it up for adoption so it can live.
i don’t think it’s moral. however, i think if a teenager gets pregnant and doesn’t want the kid, she should definitely be able to have an abortion. there are already enough kids who are screwed up because their parents were too young and neglected them.
NO. ABORTION is MURDER people.
get it through your heads.
would you have liked it if your mama murdered you because you were “unplanned”?
amanda
and i’d know about screwed up people, because my school is full of them. it’s really sad to see them give up just because they don’t have good parents…
Yeah.
Ugh, don’t get me started. The answer is no. I completely agree with Cat_fan. I couldn’t have articulated it better.
i mean, since there are so many kids in foster care and on welfare and all, let’s just muder them because people can’t afford to take care of them – it’s just the same thing as abortion, only the kids are older..right?
an unborn baby is NOT just a fetus – you ever listen to a heart beat in the womb? it’s pretty amazing …. every pregnant woman should have to see an ultrasound and listen to her babies heart before she decides whether or not to get an abortion.
amanda
no she and the guy knew what they both were doing and should of been smart to began with. i only find it moral or “okay” to kill an unborn baby when it was rape. because then she didnt ask to be rape. but having sex people of ages doing it know the consequences that comes along with it. my pregnancy was unplanned and i would have a hell of lot more things to do if i didnt have my daughter, but i couldn’t live with myself knowing i borted her because i was the one who was being irresponsible at the time.
it is her body. The morality is not for you nor I to answer…
Depends on the circumstances.
Who am I to say if it’s moral or not? A woman, in the end, has to make the best decision for herself. She’s the one that has to live with the decision.
No, if you have sex and you get pregnant and you didn’t want to, tough luck. give it up for adoption, don’t abort just because you can. it’s still murder
Hell to the no.
Well, my first opinion is that if she didn’t want to get pregnant, she shouldn’t have been having sex in the first place. But on second thought, if she doesn’t really want the baby enough to want to have an abortion, she shouldn’t be a mother anyways. It also depends on what the circumstances are. Say, if a young girl gets raped, an abortion would be appropriate.
-KrIsTiN-
no
no.. unless the pregnancy endangers their health and the health of the baby
Is it moral? That depends on the person’s conscience.
Should it be illegal? No.
Well, I’m all for women’s choice; if a woman doesn’t want to carry a baby for nine months, then she shouldn’t have to. However, I do NOT believe that abortion should be used as a method of birth control… just because a pregnancy is “unplanned” doesn’t make it morally right to abort the fetus; however, it’s still the woman’s choice.
NO, it’s not moral. It is murder. I can somewhat clear the need for abortion in my head because of a rape or if the mother’s life is in danger, but the vast majority of abortions take place because the two people involved did not adequately protect themselves. I cannot stand for a woman perfectly capable of reproducing who chooses to vacuum a defenseless human being out of her body, when there are so many women who can’t have a child and are desparate for one. Abortion is absolutely sickening.
You really want a flame war, don’t you?
I don’t think morals have anything to do with it. And it depends on what you mean by “unplanned”. Does that include rape?
Hey Dan thanks that is amazing and from what I have read your post are very informative thanks for answering my inquire….keep up the great work
I also don’t fully understand this whole “woman’s choice” thing. Your body? Yeah, okay. But only half your DNA. You didn’t create a baby by yourself, remember???? So, you’ll gain weight. You’ll have to buy maternity clothes. You’ll be pretty darn uncomfortable for the next 9 months.
It’s pretty disgusting the whole notion of, I’d rather MURDER than carry around an extra 50 pounds or so for the next 9 months. For God’s sake, find a better argument than that.
F-ing selfish is what you are.
Yes.
hellno.
No, I don’t think so.
absolutely not, the woman should take responsibility for her actions and not kill the child due to her own selfishness
adoption is always a choice as well
Depends on who the father is.
OH gosh what a question. Are you running for office this November?
“Two wrongs don’t make a right.” Had to add that in. Rape, incest, unplanned…that child was created by God and deserves to be loved. If you can’t love that baby, then there are plenty of families out there just waiting for a baby to hold in their arms.
Posted 9/29/2006 at 10:13 PM by Aslans_daughter
But I will say that this just makes me want to vomit. You really have a loving god, don’t you? We all know the world needs more unwanted children so desperately that god has to go and make women get raped. Give me a break.
Maybe next time she could use a condom. Or heck, maybe avoid sex at all if she is not ready to face the potential consequences.
No.
it really depends how old the fetus is. i mean, if its like 3 weeks old, i wouldn’t really count that as LIFE LIFE itself. if its around 8-9 months, no, it shouldnt be aborted because thats pretty close to life. sometimes, u need to think about what is best for the child/fetus. are we going to let it go through life, if its uncared for? is that necessary? like whats in the child/fetuses best interest. and different circumstances affect the situation. a lot.
It is not moral, it is still murder and God punishes those who murder.
depends on when she finds out. if the baby is devloped enough then she should keep it. but they arn’t technically alive until after a few months. Honestly it’s up to them. I wouldn’t want to know I was born unwanted.
no. it’s her fault if she got pregnant. not the kid’s.
No, I don’t believe it’s moral to kill the baby. I agree that the baby shouldn’t pay because either the parents were both irresponsible or because it’s father was a violent bastard. If a woman doesn’t want to keep the baby she can seek out private adopition agencies to be sure her child goes into a loving home as opposed to the screwed up foster system.
It is such a hard call to make if you haven’t been there, and I sympathize with the trauma of being raped, but that life is still precious.
I also agree that a woman should have to hear the heartbeat and see the ultrasound before getting the abortion (at the very least)
if you can’t support the kid there is a feasible alternative that does not involve murder.
ADOPTION
good grief
we are a selfish people
and people generally do not get pregnant as a result of rape. so that is basically a non-issue – sounds like people are grasping at straws to me
amanda
in response to ladylibellule: “You really have a loving god, don’t you? We all know the world needs more unwanted children so desperately that god has to go and make women get raped. Give me a break.”
um…it’s not God that is causing children to be unwanted. it’s us. it’s not God that’s causing women to get raped. it’s us. humans. we’re the ones screwing things up. point the finger in the right direction, hon.
and to answer the question at hand…no, i don’t think it’s moral. something’s terribly wrong with our society when a life can be extinguished just for the sake of convenience.
and as far as the whole abortion debate…wouldn’t our time and energy and efforts be put to sooooo much better use if we were trying to prevent these unwanted pregnancies in the first place??? educating our kids about healthy relationships, abstinence, or if they choose to engage in sex…safe sex? arguing about the morality of abortion hasn’t gotten us anyplace in the past 30 years. maybe it’s time we tried a different approach…
No. It’s not moral.
What’s up with all the pro-choice people saying it’s not moral? Why are you in favor of an immoral choice?
ah, touchy subject.
but i agree with others; moral is subjective.
I think it is a woman’s right to choose.
ABORTIONNNNNN!
One of my favorite topics.
That all depends what you mean by “unplanned”. Rape cases, sure. I do think that abortion shouldn’t be just another birth control for people who want to go out and have unprotected sex all the time. But I DEFINITELY think it’s neccessary to be legal. There are many who actually NEED it. They can’t support a child, they were raped, etc. Abortion being illegal would cause back-alley abortions, which would harm the “mother’s” rights too.
Yeah, I’m tired. Blahhh. Goodnight.
I’m all for freedom of choice. You can choose to have sex. You can choose to keep the baby. Or you can choose to put it up for adoption. Murder is not an option, in my opinion.
“It’s her choice, unless the baby can survive outside the mother’s womb, it’s not a real human yet, that’s how I see it.”
Right. It kills me when people say (and people I knwo HAVE said this).. “Stupid liberals are all for life, so why do they kill babies?” It’s not a baby, it’s a fetus. By the time it’s grown into a so called “baby”, abortions are.. well… real abortions only go up nto three months, right?
God made this child, yes, He did, he might have made this child to grow up in an unstable family that cannot support this child, or even better, God made this child by letting a stupid man rape a young girl, possibly ruining this young girl’s life forever.
What a wonderful, wonderful God.
murder, thats what thats called
If u dont want to deal with the responsibility of having a kid, dont have sex
if you dont want the baby… anyone ever hear of adoption?
why is that so difficult to understand??
Last time I checked, running people off the road because you’re late for work will get you penalized. Why shouldn’t killing another earn you some kind of penalty?
Mary and Joseph’s pregnancy was unplanned . . .
No, or we could just kill people simply because they caused an inconveniance….
Depends on your definition of “moral” and “unplanned.”
not really. it’s different like, if you’re really really young or your life would be endangered, but just because you don’t want it… that’s wrong.
No!
The people did IT so they should know what to expect.
They should know what the results of their actions can cause.
so, NO abortion is not MORAL.
It’s killing a life.
I think the only reason abortion should be allowed is if the pregnancy was caused by rape.
Its against all your morals if you have a religon generally speaking (like being Christain or Chatholic)
Well it is an Perfect option on MY plate if something HORRIBLE like that were to happen to me- and… I have been married for over 10 years.
Pregnancy to me- honestly, means nothing but a giant inconvenience to me and my husband.
Besides it really is only a bunch of cells anyway.
Hurrah for CHOICE!!!
XoxoxoxoX
I am prochoice. I say whether a pregnancy is planned or unplanned (married or not), it is up to the woman. I am for birth control (& think we should focus on this issue more than abortion & better access to emergency contraception). For those that are so taken back on abortion, what are there thoughts on the war in Iraq and all are poor young (born) soldiers being killed (and the Iraqi’s). Peace!!
The woman wasn’t smart in this case, but I am pro-choice!! Abortion shouldn’t be used as a total replacement for birth control, and responsibility!
no.
No.
of course not!
Absolutely Not
NO. Abortion is never moral. We need to protect the most defenseless members of our society: babies in the womb.
Posted 9/29/2006 at 9:52 PM by chad9am
Is it moral to kill an life because you find it inconvienent? NO
Posted 9/29/2006 at 9:54 PM by RdKingClassic03
This is how I see it. I love when others do the work for me.
no
I don’t get it: how can people say that unless it can live on it’s own, it’s not life. Frankly, that’s contrary to modern science. Besides, they rely on: farmers, electricians, and doctors to name a few humans that they are dependant on. In the end, they will never admit anything as they have been rationalizing from the get go. That’s what you call it when you make up your mind right before you make up the reasons. Regardless of the reasons for the pregnancy, extinguishing a life is wrong; every bit as wrong as me killing someone else because they inconvienienced me.
Is it moral to post questions of this nature?
Is it ever moral to murder anyone?
No, never!!!!
Why yes it is. it’s her choice, not “God’s” choice.
-Jacob
Absolutely NOT.
no. a child houl not be killed for whatever reason, whether it be rape or the more common irresponsibility.
No. Even if you were raped and got pregant, it’s a human, a life, that’s being created. The baby could have grown up and found the cure for cancer or something else out there. Adoption is a better option. At least the kid would have a chance.
ohmadang…no you cant kill a baby cuz you weren’t careful..it aint the poor childs fault i hate abortion and can go on for hours.
heh, convenience should always comes first these days…..
Immoral. It’s not that hard to use protection.
Now THAT is a touchy subject, Dan.
Points, man. Points*.
*Points are redeemable at all FakeMart stores across the state of Lacunaland.
I was conceived when my biological father forced my mother to have sex (she had left him because he was abusive). I will always be grateful that she allowed ME to decide whether my life was of value–and it is. If she had aborted me, then I would not exist-nor would my three beautiful children.
My two cents, Suzie
I once had an unplanned lawsuit, so i decided to kill thier lawyer. everything’s fine now
No
nope
It’s not moral, but sometimes we have to go against our morals.
-Pro-choice
In instances of rape, yes.
Absolutely not.
Unfortunately, b/c the issue of abortion (killing of innocent human life) has been confused over the years with a (so-called) woman’s right to choose, the issue has become clouded. Do adult women have rights? Yes. But I also believe that they have responsibilities as well. A responsibility to both the father (funny how few people rarely ever talk about his rights) and to the unborn child that is growing inside of her.
Sady, we have been taught, thanks to evolution, that we are nothing more than animals that happen to be a bit smarter than the rest of the animal kingdom. By believing this lie, so many have placated their consiences into believing either that their isn’t a God or that they don’t have to live by His rules as set forth in the Bible. The very Bible that tells us of His love, mercy, and grace, is the same Bible that also defines life as beginning at conception. Not only is it morally wrong to have an abortion; it is murder.
pro life. if you are willing to have sex, then you sohuld be willing to deal with the consequences. god created sex for people to recreate. if you are worried about getting pregnant, get on the pill and use a condom.
once the sperm hit the egg, it has become a baby.
No, i dont’ think so,
however my view is sort of split.
i think the “morning after pill” is okay for girls who have been raped.- and that was definetly unplanned.
Of course not.
For the people who bring up the potential of a child leading a rough life – I know of quite a few people myself that would be terribly offended with the thoughts of these people. I’m willing to bet that just about everybody commenting here knows someone that had a rough childhood yet overcame adversity and is a wonderful person. To anyone bringing up this argument – Have you told these people in your life that they should’ve been aborted?
Abortion is never moral. Period. It is not a woman’s choice to murder another person. It is not HER body, not her choice. It is another human being.
UMM, if God created sex for people to procreate, why did God create infertile people??
Just wonderin.
>>>Wait – you asked if it was moral.
No, it’s not moral. It certainly isn’t, to lose a human life like that. But even if it’s not moral, the woman should choose. Afterall, she’s the one providing the baby with the nutrients neccesary to live.
Posted 9/29/2006 at 9:52 PM by QuixoticallyAmazing<<<
i’m goingwith that one…
If I was facing the decision myself, I believe I would probably try my best to be able to keep the child. But it would be my choice, and I will not make my choice be anothers. If a choice is made to abort, then I’ll support that persons choice, its still perhaps a tragic situation, but some things in this world just are. Its fine and noble to put an unwanted child up for adoption, so others may have a chance to raise and love a child, and that again is a choice. I think the choices need to be made by the individual at hand.
NOT AT ALL.
No … it’s not moral.
Why bother asking this question, Dan?
I don’t think that’s moral, no…
I don’t personally agree with it, but I don’t think I have the right to tell her not to (therefore, I am pro-choice, even though I dislike abortion). I would just tell her to explore her options. I don’t women should think of abortion as a form of birth control.
It’s not ethical.
Is that different?
i would personally consider it moral because i wouldn’t consider the microscopic embryo as a human life. if she waited until, you know, eight months into her pregnancy…then we’d have a problem. otherwise, fine by me. what would truly be immoral would be someone outside the situation telling her what to do.
doesn’t that depend on the person’s morals?
Moral, not at all. And unlike some have suggested, morals are NOT SUBJECTIVE. God has created standards and a set of morals, based on His character. And like God and true morals, right and wrong are not just an agreed upon set of dos and don’ts that society come up with.
All about choice my friend.. Not morality
no. no. and well… maybe if.. no.
Nooo…
Murder is not moral.
Definitely not. It is murder. I fell pregnant when I was much younger and gave my child up for adoption. He is now 12 years old and I was lucky enough to meet with him and his family earlier this year. However inconvenient the pregnancy was every time I see him and his family it was worth it.
NO
No. That’s like…murder. He/she is an unborn CHILD.
Yes, I believe so.
NO. The only scenorio in which I would support aborting is if the mother was raped.
uh, no. I am pro choice, You have the choice to have sex as is like 99% of the cases for abortion. Sure, there are rape cases (that is to include all non consential forms of sex). But in that case there still is choice, you choose to give up the kid for adoption (agencies exist that will pay for your entire life for the entire time period), raise the kid, or commit murder and thus should go to jail. And last of all there are “medical” cases, which life to save and those are complicated decisions. Only in the case of one or the other will not live should it be considered. Only with prayer should the woman, doctor(s), father/husband, and/or parents be allowed to decide this question, the most difficult at all. I can say what I would do in this case if the choice was loose my wife or kid when that question comes up. But I would first vote to keep my wife and do everything possible to save the kid. A 24 week fetus does have some chance of survival so I would go on that with the best intentions and do a C-Section rather than abortion. That puts the life in God’s hands not ours. But if the case is the baby is in say the fallopian tube rather than uterus, then the baby won’t make it anyway and likely kill the mother so it is reasonable to believe abortion is the only option until medical science has a way to move the fetus and all related organs (placenta etc) to the uterus successfully. Lots to consider, but the first answer is no, choice was made with the decision to have sex in most cases, then only after that for strict life and death medical reasons should it be allowed.
Why don’t we ask Pam Stenzel what she thinks?
It’s the women’s choice. It’s wrong in my eyes. I would never do it but who am I to judge someone else.
If the answer has to be Y or N, then No. But …
While I discourage abortions, women can do whatever they want. It’s their child.
Yes. I’m pro-choice.
I dont believe in taking a life. If a person is raped then the person carrying the child can make a decision.
No. It’s not right. Unplanned pregnancies are a result of the woman’s action. If she didn’t want the slightest chance of a pregnancy, she shouldn’t have gotten her freak on. My daughter was an unplanned pregnancy, and she’s the best thing that’s happened to me. It was my responisbility, and so I did it. Plus, at three weeks the fetus has a heart beat. So unless you know right away that you’re pregnant and can abort before three weeks, you’re killing someone. And how would it feel to be a murderer because you wanted to have sex and didn’t want to deal with the consequences? Pretty bad, I’d wager.
I believe pro-choice is pro-abortion… however, I do not judge a woman who has or plans to do such a thing… God alone is judge. Hitler = 6,000,000 Jews…… Supreme Court = 40,000,000 unborn babies and counting…
Why do you ask questions like these?
You know that what pretty much all the awnsers are..
It’s all so obvious.
Murder is murder, so I’d have to say…NO!
It is amazing the lack of understanding about the sanctity of life……….sad and scary
It is not moral. It is wrong and it is sin. That is not my opinion. That is not my belief. It is the truth, no matter how I feel about it. Although, I don’t have much trouble with this truth.
I just had a baby girl three months ago, so yes my emotions are involved in the rest of my response.
All this talk of “fetus vs. child”… Do you realize that every single one of you was once a “fetus”? Is there some miraculous change in the womb when the “fetus” becomes a baby? I don’t think so. Fetus is merely a scientific term for the stage of maturity of a BABY. Everything happens for a reason. Everything. Yes, I mean everything.Katrina, Sept. 11, the war in Iraq, unplanned pregnancies–even those caused by rape. As someone has already said, when the sperm hit the egg, a baby was made. A life was created. Who are you to cut off the chance for life in the midst of tragedy? And all this talk about how awful the child’s life will be or could be–what about how wonderful it might be? What about the amazing PERSON within those “bunch of cells”? We are not just bodies–we are mind and spirit. A baby has a body, a mind, and a spirit. At about four months I could feel my baby girl squirming around. That’s when I could *feel* it. She’d been moving the whole time, moving when *she* wanted to. A “fetus” is a baby. There is no way anyone can know for sure that to kill an unborn child would be better for the child, for the world, for themselves. No way. And as for the “trauma and pain” of carrying a child for nine months to go through labor in the birth–bullcrap. Trauma and pain?? Only if they are complications with the pregnancy would I ever consider the experience trauma. Besides, there’s so many things you can do to make labor easier. Heck, people schedule C-sections these days. And I still insist that a woman should complete her journey because she’s not alone. It’s not “her” body. She was given that body by God, who, praise His name, gave her parents enough sense to not kill her before she was born.
My mom was adopted. Her birth mother was only 16 when she had my mom. And my mom thanks God that she wasn’t aborted. When she was in her early forties, my mom had a miscarraige. She didn’t know she was pregnant. We mourned the loss of that baby. We also have faith that we will meet that baby someday in God’s presence (which is a whole ‘nother can of worms…) Life is always better than choosing death for someone else. It’s not pro-choice to back out and say “well it’s up to the individual.” That’s just copping out of issue. That’s saying, “I’m uncomfortable with rules that apply to all people at all times.” I know for a fact that abortion would never have been an issue for my mom, had she been able to carry that baby. Pregnancy is not an inconvenience. It’s way more than something so petty. It is a responsibility (yes I used that word) to carry a life that God has chosen to put on this earth. Who are you to say what that baby’s life will be like? Did you form him? Who are you to say that the baby would not be a redemption for the situation? I see it as a chance for the parents of the child to turn to God, to buckle down and become adults for the sake of someone else since they couldn’t do it for themselves. As for the whole rape idea, how wonderful if something good can come of something so evil. Yes that’s what I said. Wonderful. That child has a chance to live a life that stops the cycle of violence and sin. That child has the chance to begin a new generation that obeys God instead of rebelling against Him. Every person has potential. Who are you to snuff it out?
Want some more? Visit my site in the next few days and you’ll get more than you could ask for. Life is beautiful.
~Victoria
It is between her and God.
“uhhh, i’m gonna back out on this one, because I know this is gonna get ugly.”
True that!
IMO If you have sex, then you are comitting to a child. No exceptions, cept maybe rape >_>
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Totally wrong. If they couldn’t control themselves, they need to carry the responsibility.
No!
I think selfish, irresponsible, lazy, narrow-minded, cruel, coldhearted, unjust, or murder may have been the words you were looking for, Dan.
nope
eh… not really
not moral, it’s murder
No, it’s not moral. Abortion isn’t a moral choice in any situation.
Dan, of COURSE not. One of my children was unplanned, but never unwanted!
No, I believe it is not moral.
As an adopted child I am very very thankful that my biological mother chose to give me the chance of living! I don’t think anyone has the right to end my life whether I am two weeks old in the womb or 20 years old. My parents had to wait over 4 years before I was born and could join the family.
Of course having an unwanted pregnancy is going to be tough on a woman. That human is growing inside her! She can’t just leave the situation.
I look at it this way. Yes, horrible things happen. Rape is wrong and terrible. However, giving a child up for adoption is one of the greatest gifts you can ever give.
If it is an unplanned pregnancy and the couple or the mother is unable to provide for her child, I believe adoption is the solution. There are thousands of couples unable to have children and they are waiting to adopt. This allows the mother to not have to suffer with having made the choice to abort and allows the child their chance at life.
When speaking of choice. I believe choosing to have sex is a choice. Sex is designed to produce offspring. If you are not ready for children then choose not to have sex or choose to use contraception.
Let me know what you think, my xanga is dawn2faith.
how can people say “well i dont know about moral, but i will support your choice”? nobody has the right to end another life because of a matter of convienence. there shouldnt be a choice.
MORAL?it is sth established to protect the interest of majority,i think.
Can a unwanted,unexpected child contribute to the society?Of coz,he has the chance,but that’s not likely due to the parenting provided by his parents.
So,that’s definitely moral.Abortion has just eliminate another potential criminal and protect the majority of this society.
as long as she’s too young (teens and young 20s), has a medical problem or something like that, or she has been raped. it’s fine then. it’s not a form of birth control though. abortions can make you infertile, and i would much rather be able to have kids someday than not.
Thank GOODNESS after all of these posts- that I can go get one whenever I want!
It is still my choice and it is still safe and legal!
Here is to Women and to Pro-Choice!
My body…my control.
I couldnt speak on the morality of a heathen but here, in the Land of Lori Logic and in Gods country there is no excuse int he world for killing your baby.
No, its not moral but it should still be the decision on the woman. But this is not where they need to start. If it is so immoral then why don’t the churches take a more active role in training the kids and the parents about these morals before this happens?
Its not moral. But I’m not anti-abortion.
^This is the stance I cannot understand. If it is not moral, how can you be anything other than anti-abortion?
would you like me to kill you for showing up unannounced???
> And then its back around the pony post without a definition…. When is it viable life: conception, 1st or 2nd trimester? To each his/her own! I’m now and forever will be pro-choice. Sometime unpleasant choices have to be made. Too bad you can’t please all the people all the time! Thank you P.T. BARNUM1 Morality!!!! So much dumb wrong shit is done in the name of morality!
Peace. anyway
I’ve read some opinions that if the “fetus” can not survive outside the mother’s womb then it is not a human life. Umm… anyone ever see a newborn that can get up and fix a bottle in the middle of the night? Or change it’s own diaper? Seems to me even after birth they can’t survive without their mothers. So I suppose a baby isn’t a human life even after birth?
In regards to the pregnancy endangering the mother’s health: My mother was told to abort me because she was so sick. She opted not to. She lived through it depsite being hospitalized almost three months afterward. My son was unplanned. The doctor would’ve told me to abort had I not been 36 weeks before I even went to the doctor. I was unconscious in ICU afterward. I lived through it. My son has been the greatest thing in my life… depsite his father wanting nothing to do with him.
My ex-boyfriend was the result of rape. His mother carried him to full term and raised him. He was the only child she was ever able to have.
Two of my friends were both children of 16 year old mothers who opted to have them and give them up for adoption at birth.
In any case, I cannot see how abortion is moral when I’ve seen so many outcomes to “unplanned” pregnancies.
No, it’s not. BUT neither is forcing a woman (she being the one providing the life, after all) to have a baby when she knows that she could not raise it like it should be raised.
i’m not for abortion, but in some cases its better than young kids not getting any prenatal and therefore having sick babies that will be dumped into the system once they realize they can’t take care of them or want them.
I guess if she was raped. I don’t see why she should have to suffer through an agonizing birthing, the side effects of pregnancy, and her dreams for the career and life she always wanted just because some guy was too horny to think straight.
People say ‘Don’t kill an unborn baby!!’ but don’t consider what the girl has to go through.
I know it’s probably not moral. But it’s a woman’s body and she can do what she wants.
Well it depends. Maybe the mother won’t survive the prengency, then yes she could if she wants. If she get pregeant from rape, the yes. (It happens) It’s the women that has a choice no-one elses.
I don’t think it’s a moral thing. But what I think is going to be different from the woman next to me and because of that I believe it should be legal. If a female finds herself in a bind with an unplanned pregnancy, no one is forcing her to have an abortion. If it clashes with her morals, she can do what’s good for her and give birth.
This is going to sound a little rude, but I don’t think men should have as much involvement in the abortion matter. You don’t have a uterus! Don’t tell women what is moral or immoral if you’ll never be in the position of having to choose.
you have no business bringing a child into the world if you are unable to care for it. that hurts both of you.
I don’t think I get to decide what is and/or is not moral for someone else. . . AND I fully support a woman’s right to have a choice (legally!) about what she feels is best to do with her pregnancy.
Short answer: no. I’ll have to come back to give my long, impassioned answer later.
If it doesn’t have a will to live, it’s just a mistake. If it has a will to live, she is punishing it for something that’s her own fault.
no, it’s not
“Can a unwanted,unexpected child contribute to the society?Of coz,he has the chance,but that’s not likely due to the parenting provided by his parents.”
Okay, so if I understand that comment, it’s our PARENTS’ fault for how we end up. Right? Blame goes to our circumstances, right? “His dad abused him when he was five. Of course he’s an abusive father to his own! He had no other likely lifestyle, now did he?”
Just because someone’s life is hard DOES NOT MEAN they are automatically destined to follow in the footsteps of those before them. Sure it’s likely. But there’s still a significant choice. And that significant choice should be made by the person it’s for. Not by their parents or the government or anyone else.
I can’t believe this…
~Victoria
No way! Taking a life would only make things so much worse.
I do not think it’s moral just because it’s an unplanned pregnancy. I don’t think abortion is moral at all, but I also don’t think it’s my right to push my beliefs on someone. So, it is not moral, but everyone’s concept of morality is different.
Would it be moral for me to perform a postpartum abortion on anyone that aborts their child?
I think it’s insane to have sex with someone without using a contraceptive [check that spelling when you get a minute] and expecting not to get pregnant. Unless the female has polycystic ovarian syndrome, in which case it’s more unlikely that she should get pregnant, but let’s be realistic here. If I find a gun lying in the road and point it at my head, should I automatically assume nothing will happen?
not from my perspective
why not give up the baby for adoption??
I would never do it, but while I personally belive to do it isn’t right, I can’t speak for the morals of others. I leave it up to them to decide what is ”right”.
I can’t decide what is moral for someone else (plus I hate it when people use the word “moral” to describe their feelings about political issues). I do think it’s irresponsible, and that the whole situation would be better if abortion weren’t banned, but abstinence-only sex ed were. Then you put money into public service announcements and other advertising, sex education, and birth control. If you’re smart about things, then there shouldn’t be so much of a need for abortion.
Rape, planned pregnancy, whatever happens, it is never right to kill a baby. A baby is a life BEFORE conception. People are made in the image of God, and Psalms 139 confirms that God knows us before we were even born. So pro-choice….uh, you had a choice, you made it when you had sex. Rape? Unfortunately, it’s not the baby’s fault that this is a screwed up world that finds you in the tough circumstances. Therefore, abortion is never alright…NEVER!
NO! I have a blog about that “Plan B” pill that came out on my myspace page. It started with the pill & condoms, then abortion, now “plan B” and things are not going to get any prettier. But if you can’t put a value on a life, even while it is being developed, then you aren’t placing much value on life outside of the womb either. Abortion is wrong. There are special circumstances like in the case of rape, that I feel it is between that person and God, and no one can judge anyone justifiably anyway, but no one can ever convince me that abortion os right, because it isn’t.
i’d say yeah
I wish more people had commented on adoption. I know someone who has been on a waiting list for a long time to adopt a baby.
And yet none of you know why women may get an abortion.
It’s a personal issue for everybody, and every single case is different.
I know for a fact that NONE of you who are ‘anti abortion’ give two shits about any of the fetuses that are aborted every day, month or year.
You personally don’t care about them, their mother, her choice, her reason. You’re just pissed because its an issue you don’t understand. Hopefully you’ll never be in that position to make a choice like that.
Until then, quit hating these ‘horrible women’ for doing what is best for them, and in most cases, best for the fetus.
No!!! How can it be moral to kill a child.
I don’t think that abortion should be used as birth control in any way. However, I remain pro-choice because it is a woman’s body, and I don’t think that anyone but her should be able to make the decision whether or not to terminate the pregnancy. It depends on the situation as to whether or not I believe it is right…but definitely in the cases of rape and incest. If I became pregnant, and it was unplanned, I wasn’t in a relationship, and I had no source of income or insurance, etc., I am not sure what I would do. I could say now that I would not have an abortion, and I would give it up for adoption instead– but until you are in that situation, you really can’t know for sure what you would do, and I’m sure many people will disagree with me on that. That’s why I love America…you have the right to disagree and give your opinion, and I can keep mine.
NO!!
I think it’s insane to have sex with someone without using a contraceptive [check that spelling when you get a minute] and expecting not to get pregnant. Unless the female has polycystic ovarian syndrome, in which case it’s more unlikely that she should get pregnant, but let’s be realistic here. If I find a gun lying in the road and point it at my head, should I automatically assume nothing will happen?
Posted 9/30/2006 at 1:09 PM by This_Is_Important
I have Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome…
I thought I should let you know…it’s still insane not to use a contraceptive when you have PCOS…you made a good point about the gun lying in the road…I agree with that.
However…
I did something, and made a mistake…and didn’t use a contraceptive. Thankfully, I wasn’t pregnant, but that’s not because of my PCOS…there were other reasons. However, there was a scare, and if I were pregnant…I am not sure what I would have done with the baby.
NOOOOOOO. Abortion is wrong no matter what! It’s your damn fault you got pregenant you unprotected whore. If you get pregenant, unplanned or not, you should live with the consequences of your own actions, it’s your fault you weren’t careful, so now that you fucked up your life, deal with it. I’m so against abortion, why would people even come up with that idea????? SDJKFERKLFTHJKERFLDHK
RAWR! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
I just love all the people saying that it’s best for the baby if the mom gets an abortion. Life is a chance to make a difference in the lives of others, not a trip to the circus. It’s not about doing whatever you want, and complaining if things get tough. The kid might have a crappy life, and might not–who are you or anyone to decide that since it might be hard it would be better not to live? And going to a private adoption center will give the child a better chance at the good life, since potential adoptive parents are looked at hard to be sure that they would take care of him/her properly.
Well, I believe that it’s your decision.
But personally, I would never do that if I were capable of taking care of it. If I weren’t, then I suppose it’s fine.
If you want to have sex, and don’t want to get pregnant, use the appropriate damn measures to keep yourself from getting pregnant. I’m very pro-choice, but I certainly don’t approve of people who screw around and get pregnant “by accident” and decide to have an abortion.
Everyone that says she could or should have been smarter is assuming that she wasn’t. Unplanned pregnancies happen to responsible people whose bodies react funny to birth control which causes a woman to still get pregnant, or to responsible people whose condom happened to break, or had a tear no one saw. A raped woman who in turn becomes pregnant wasn’t being an idiot… she was being a victim. So unless you know the story behind every unplanned pregnancy don’t generalize and say she was being stupid.
It depends on her views. I’m pro-choice because I think it’s sick that men dictate what women can do with their bodies and what happens to be developing in them (Hey, Mr. Pope and the predominantly-male-leader Church, I’m talking to your Infalliability…). That’s not right. Now, abortion is such a sensitive subject. I don’t think it’s necessarily morally right, but it is when it is the women’s right to choose. If people stop dictating whether or not it’s right to abort, maybe there will be less abortions in the first place. The context in which the abortion occurs is NEVER the same… there are always differences. Which is why it should not become illeagalized, because, correct me if I’m wrong, alot of women who get pregnant without planning to will keep the child. The situations in which the abortion occurs are different, and up to the woman to decide if it’s right or wrong.
I think that the only time that abortion should be allowed is when it’s incest or rape, because if the woman goes out, has sex willingly, and gets pregnant because of her own choice to have sex, then she should have to deal with the consequences. And after having the baby, you can give it up for adoption if you’re really not ready for a child.
If your not ready for a baby, don’t have sex. Simple as that.
I don’t agree with using abortion as birth control but I think it’s moral to have an abortion because of an unplanned pregnancy. I don’t know how many of you have actually had to ever make the choice of keeping a child or having an abortion (I’m guessing a few) but if you haven’t had to make that choice I really hope you never have too. The fact is it’s one of the hardest choices you’ll ever have to make, if you’re looking at taking care of a child for at least the next 18 years you have to be finacially stable, you have to know you can provide a decent life. Adoption? Sure, but not all kids get adopted people, there’s plenty who live their lives in orphanages or in and out of foster homes. That’s not a life for a kid either. In the end it’s a personal choice, a hard personal choice, I wouldn’t do it but I do believe in that right to choose.
Oh, to the people who are saying that a woman should “deal with the consequences”, if you’re thinking of a child as a consequence then you’re definitely not ready to carry a child for 9 months or raise one for 18 years.
I certainly wouldn’t judge her but the woman can always put the child up for adoption…but if she doesn’t have the money to provide well for herself and maybe her other children…or child….she probably should get an abortion.
no
i believe that abortion is wrong, but imagine how the world would be if we didnt have abortion. the earth is getting so full with people and we are causing so much waste, we’d probably be dead right now. the earth can only last for so long, and we’re trashing it. also, there are alot of very irresbonsible people who are having these abortions. some of these people choose to have the kid anyways, just imagine, that poor kid has to grow up in poverty with drug abusing parents. he/she will probably do nothing more than end up in a gang or doing the same as their parents. i think that people should have to pay a huge fine that goes towards people in poverty or furthering education. yes abortion is wrong, but it is necessary for our life here on earth
no. its not moral. there are alot of women who would love to have a baby, but cant. so why, if u can have a baby, kill it. put it up for adoption, and make someones life better, and give the baby a good home.
Here’s one. Once a doctor was perfoming an abortion and the “unborn fetus” reached out of the mother and grabbed the doctor’s finger and held on before that baby was mercilessly killed. And yes, that’s a true story – I saw a picture. The doctor never performed another abortion in his life.
So there are really two questions: 1) Is it morally correct for a girl who is not married to go out and get pregnant? And if it’s too late, is it morally correct to kill a living breathing child?
Even if a girl was raped (which doesn’t happen too often in real life) is it still right to kill someone who wasn’t involved in that wrong and is completely deffensless?
I think the world would be a better place if we thought of the price the unborn pay for our convenience. That is really what it boils down to.
When a woman thinks more highly of herself than her child the world is askew.
abortion, no matter what angle you are coming from is selfish. do i understand the selfishness? yes. but there is always adoption, and it seems like people just ignore that option because they don’t want to deal with it. if you are going to make a crappy parent then give it up, please! but there are hundreds of thousands woman who are dying for a baby to love and take care of.
Meh, I don’t think its moral, and my statement isn’t backed up by any “books” or anything like that. I simply feel that if you have the guts to kill the kid before he’s out of the womb, I think you should be able to shoot the kid in the face when he’s four and the husband isn’t paying child support and he just cost you your job. Its more or less the same thing in my mind.
So, if murder is moral, then yes, murdering an unborn child is moral. Yes, its a woman’s body, but the child inside is its own self. If you can kill a child in the first year, then you should be able to kill them in those rebellious teen years.
When you look it from a logistical standpoint… which took me a long time to do (with the situation being clouded from both sides of the equation)… its hard to find support for abortions logical, as if left unchecked, the child/fetus will be born and grow.
Obviously there are extenuating circumstances, such as when the life of the mother is in jeopardy… which occurs in the late term…. making late term abortions largely irrational, as from what I understand, the life threatening abortions make up the majority of late term abortions. I dunno, just my 2 cents.
no. even if it was a rape child or otherwise unwanted. abortion is probably the worst thing a woman could go through..though I’m not experienced in the matter..but yea the procedure I’ve read and listen to presentations about the whole abortion issue and its a sick twisted invention we have made to protect ourselves from responsibility.
I find it interesting that so many people write they’re pro-choice, yet say it would not be immoral. To me, it just seems like a contradiction to choose something that you admit is immoral.
not moral. ever.
If the damn girl was raped.. and having the child would pose the possibility of killing the mother, etc. etc.
You see where I’m going with this?
Morals are perceived.. right and wrong are perceived.
I stand neutral.
Is it moral to bring a child into this world with no way to shelter, feed, love, or care for it?
By the way, to the person who talked about the baby holding a doctor’s hand..
The baby wasn’t aborted, to the best of my recollection.
I don’t like abortion, but I am pro-choice. I think that aborting a baby because it was an unplanned pregnancy is wrong though. It seems like the easy way out.
It’s MURDER!!!!!! You people are CRAZY!!!!!! Killing someone is MURDER!!!! The world is so messed up right now and God is looking at us saying, “what are the thinking?!?!?!?!??”! And when we all have to go before God at the end, and all you have aborted babies, will be titled murderers. Even if they are the best person in the world, even if it was an accident, even if it was a rape, even if it was the male FORCEING the female to have an abortion, it is murder. Think about it…..if the mother of Isaac Newton had decided on an abortion, were would we be? Same applies to Columbos, Darwin, Twain, Shakespear, William (Bill) Gates, Washington, William Wallace, Churchill, Mel Brooks. The millions of murdered babies could have had the best life anyone has ever seen and changed the world…..and YOU have taken that oprotunity away from them because YOU say we have ‘rights’.
Please, you don’t know what you’re saying until you’ve been in that situation.
I don’t care how many times a woman has sex, you should have the right to do what you want to do with your body.
If you have a penis, don’t even began to think you can imagine what it’s like.
I like how people can hate God because He lets bad things happen. I mean, it’s not like it’s our fault, and besides, I think that SOMEONE should hold God himself accountable. Actually wait… No I don’t; I hate that. Yes, it just so happens that all the human players are HUMANS (arguably), so it IS our fault. Good luck with the last one.
Sorry Dan, but she started it, and if you don’t want me throwing sand, can I put rocks in my snowballs?
If you aren’t ready for a baby emotionally of financially I don’t believe you should have one.
It’s about $600 give or take for an aborion. Having a baby costs way more. Ultrasounds cost about $1000 a piece. I don’t think it is very fair to bring a baby in the world if you can’t really afford it.
Having a baby can mess up a person’s entire life if they didn’t plan on it.
To people who say a fetus can’t kill anyone, What about if the baby is dangerous to both “lives” the mother and the fetus. Shouldn’t a pregnant woman have the option of abortion if the fetus could kill her?
Having a baby that will make you poor can lead to a slow death also. The stress of trying to have 3 jobs, and feeling bad because you still can’t take care of your child properly, because you aren’t there when they get off school and you can’t afford proper child care, so they have to stay at home alone and care for themselves, What about that slow death? It is proven that stress can cause sickness, sickness that can eventually kill.
There are plenty of other reasons.
and you have to basically take care of a baby for 18 years that is a pretty huge commitement.
depends on the circumstances.
no.
No. Sex produces children, I think we’ve started to forget that. Accept your responsibilities, carry the child to term, adn give it up for adoption. Since when do we have the right to end a life just because it’s inconvienent? Maybe that’s why kids go into schools and kill each other. They know that we’ve created a society where they have no value anymore.
No… I can understand it… but, it’s still murder… you’re killing something that has a life… so it is murder… something that will be human, and even more so something that is a part of you. I mean, it really would be hard to have a kid at a young age, or to just not be ready for one and all of a sudden you’re pregnant, and the idea would appeal to me too… but I could never do it… I know I will never have premarital sex, but if I got raped or something, I’d birth it and raise it no matter what…
i think it is a very responsible choice. and i think there is nothing moraly wrong with it up to a certain point in the pregnancy. if you do it early enought, what you are aborting is not even a “baby”… it is a piece of tissue. it has no brain, no heart, and it can’t feel anything.
if it actually looks like a baby/fetus… that is where it is wrong.
Is it moral…NO! What kind of morals are killing an innocent life of whom NO matter WHAT happened is not their fault. They deserve a chance to live. A good moral hmm “be responsible.” Most of the time not the countless what “ifs” people just aren’t careful. I don’t think it should be used as an easy fix.
No. I don’t believe it’s moral, in fact I’m very much against it – in theory. Realistically, I don’t think it should be illegal. I don’t think the government has the right to say that, and it will still be done if it’s illegal, only in more dangerous, illegitimate situations.
Absolutely not.
pro-choice
Some people keep on saying “it’s murder It’s murder” Well. how about when you killed a bug, a fish any “life”. That’s murder also. And I know that people will start saying that a human isn’t the same as a bug or another creature. It’s just kinda pisses me off when people say “God punishes all people that murders” when they probably killed a couple of things in their lifetime too. Well, that’s just my opinion
that’s so silly - it’s like this: you have sex, and you are actually *surprised* with the natural results! ROTFL!!!
No. It’s not. People who aren’t prepared to take on the adult resonsibility to have a baby should keep their pride tied in the first place! I saw a bilboard sign that featured one human egg on one side, and about a hundred human sperm on the other heading toward the egg. the caption went something like: “don’t like the odds? don’t do it! “unplanned”? How stupid of an excuse can a woman have?
Cowboy
By the way, in response to “SilverSupraz’s” comment:
In the Bible, God never refers to murder being killing ANYTHING other than another human being. And who are WE to decide when life actually starts? Would you want to err on the side of “too careful” rather than taking a chance and taking another human being’s life?
Some things are just common-sense-wrong.
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!
People place too much value on human life, if you ask me.
It’s not the babies fault she’s irresponsible. The baby shouldn’t have to die for her msitake. I find the biggest reason people find it okay to kill babies is that they don’t think it’s a human child. The fact is IT’S A HUMAN AT CONCEPTION. The whole argument about it just being a fish tracing from evolutionary roots is the biggest load of crap I’ve ever heard of. And what’s more, the guy that first said it was true was a lyer. Earnst Haeckel, a university embryologist from Germany, made a drawing to try and prove evolutionary theory by showing evolutionary processes in our own development. It was proven that his drawings were a fraud, and his own university convicted him of it. Yet over 100 years later, it’s still in our text books, and still screwing our society’s morals. Go to http://www.drdino.com for more proof against evolution and the like.
bad_grammar, By your own admission, no one should take you seriously. Is that right?
Is it wrong to abort a child if it won’t be loved and appreciated?
No.
You be put in the situation. I’ve never been in it, but it’s not my place to judge. I am not in their shoes.
no.
NO, NO, NO, a million times, NO.
NO. And any woman that gets pregnant form being raped in a hospital bed, should be ALLOWED prenatal care and to be able to TRUMP any decision made about whether she can keep the baby, let alone, HAVE THE BABY. A pet-peave of mine, because: “It happened to ME.” An attempt was made to abort the baby, by hospital staff. The baby was born in the process, once they cut off its arms. It survived, and had arms attatched, later, so he could run and play like other children. The thing is: the whole thing was a disincentive for me, a mentally ill person getting pregnant out of wedlock, and trying to go the whole gestation period for it to be born. I was also in a mental hospital at the time. The doctors involved did not care about human life (the life of a fetus) or anybody’s rights as a decent, respective human being, ME. They made improper decisions, and they were medically incompetant, there at Oregon State Hospital in 1773-1974, in my opinion.
No. Never.
How can there be any Morality in Abortion?!. When you are killing a helpless babies,when you should be caring & loving him/her?!. & if you really think that it is not convinient/afford to raise a child you should have been smarter or stop spreading your legs wide open!. & then when you found out that you are pregnant you are going to get abortion when you could have prevented it. Your mistakes is not your child’s mistake.he/she shopuld not be the one to suffer.