November 28, 2007
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40 Lashes
I was just reading a description of what it is like to get 40 lashes.
Here is one man’s story:
“Then I was told to lie face down on a rug on the floor, still wearing my prison uniform.
The lashing started immediately. One, two, three – in quick succession. I buried my head into my forearms, gritted my teeth and concentrated on not breaking down.
The man lashing me was the tallest and biggest of the three policeman.
He was supposed to have a book – usually the Koran – under his arm to reduce the swing and stop him from lifting the cane above his head, but there was no sign of it.
Four, five, six, seven – they kept coming thick and fast. At first the pain wasn’t too much and I could feel where he was hitting me.
The blows were raining down on my body, from the shoulder blades to the calves, then back up again.
But with each blow, the skin softened and the pain grew and grew to the point that my whole back felt like it was on fire.
Soon it was unbearable, but they kept coming, mostly on my left shoulder and calf. I had to summon up all my control not to move.
I didn’t realize the human body could generate and tolerate such pain. I had never felt anything like it before, and I hope I will never feel anything like it again.
At about 20 I lost count because I was in too much pain, but someone else was counting each stroke out loud in Arabic.
I had to grit my teeth even more and screwed up my eyes.
I was determined not to make a sound and to lie perfectly still.
Only one of us would leave this room with their dignity intact – me.
After a while I had no idea where he was hitting, even though my clothes were getting torn. The last ten strokes were agony, bloody agony.
I thought I was going to pass out.
Then just as quickly as it started, it was over. Thirty to 40 seconds was all it had lasted. I was left to stagger to my feet and walk out.
The first person I saw was the prison governor. He said: ‘You are still alive then?’ I replied: ‘Yes, I’m fine.’
I was shaking uncontrollably, but just glad it was all over.
Although I’d been given a medical check before I was beaten, there was nothing afterwards.
A fellow inmate counted the marks on my back and there were scores of weals – blue and black, surrounded by yellow swellings and extremely painful. Any movement set them on fire.
I couldn’t lie on my back for days and, two weeks later, I was still in pain.
Today, the scars have healed, but I will never forget the ordeal.”
Here is the link: Link
We already have capital punishment here and we use taser guns. I am sure that looks cruel to people of other countries. So many appear to agree with spankings.
Do you think it would do our country some good to begin giving lashes?
Comments (73)
oh, good lord.
Can we nominate people to get these lashings?
It will never happen I heard they are going to have a law that bans parents from spanking their kids.
Where is the line and when does the slippery slope begin? If we allow lashings, then what next?
no
People who talk on cell phones in the library should be lashed unmercifully.
I think is abhorrent.
A serious answer:
Anyone who tortures and kills a small child should receive all 40 lashes, then castration with a dull spoon, then a public hanging.
Lashings? I think that’s the wrong question. Perhaps you mean to ask if we think a little public humiliation for criminals would do any good.
Lashings? I think that’s the wrong question. Perhaps you mean to ask if we think a little public humiliation for criminals would do any good. thereluctantsinger
Good point
No. Although I believe our prison system needs reform, I do not think we need to reform it back to the stone ages.
No lashings. I’m for public humiliation.
but if it works, why not? 40 is a bit extreme, but i’m not against it if it will keep people on the straight and narrow. theh problem is determining how many lashes for each crime. we have the death penalty yet that isn’t enough to keep others from killing. maybe it would be if we used it more. anyhow, i don’t ever see this happening though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway
Ctrl + F: International Rankings.
Want to end crime, maybe think about what we are doing wrong…
And its not that punishments are not severe enough.
What’s next, spankings? Hot wax? Nipple clips?
I’m down for lashings. It’s rare that cruel people get what they deserve. Jail time is cake compared to what they should be getting.
Didn’t they do that to Jesus?
I don’t think it is a good idea. It is not biblical, that I am aware of.
I do think we need to be tougher on criminals…but resorting to torture? Though affective, not the right solution.
Although, I do think people who kill in torturous ways should be put to death by the most painful of means…
Maybe to child molesters
absolutely not.
the death penalty is quick and painless. 40 lashes is agonizing and cruel. they’re totally different.
That sounds terrifying; I cannot imagine. I can only hope the U.S. would never do that no matter how stupid we are.
its not going to do anything except give lawyers a chance to sue because it’s cruel and unusual…
What the hell? NO.
No death penalty, no tasing, no fucking beating your kids.
Maybe I’m just a dirty communist or something, but I personally think hurting people is BAD.
yarp
What a fascinating description. I know that probably sounds morbid, but it was very well done.
shouldn’t you be watching the republican debate?
i hope your’e gettign paid by those ads. brutal!
that sounds horrible. Maybe it would be useful for those repeat criminals. Our current system apparenty isn’t painful enough.
let’s do it
I could use a few lashings for being a moron today-
Nice try Dan about the video ad. I change the coding the block the whole website this time around. Seriously, Dan, are you short in money somewhere? If you really need money, setup a paypal account and let people donate to you.
I was only wondering if lashing was the same as caning?
before the people who were outraged over grace say no, think about it. lashings to, not alcohol violators, but to those who commit the sickest, most abomoninable crimes. why should they either get a pretty plush arrangement in prisons for what they did? why should they die so quickly with relatively little pain?
just think about it
No, cause thats just freaking wrong. Public humiliation will do…
maybe some kind of public humiliation would put sense back into people. hmmmm. something interesting to explore…
What the hell kind of music is this?!? It makes me want to shoot something.
I think that maybe it would be a good idea… maybe some criminals would actually get the message that what they are doing is wrong… but i am afraid there will be those who will kill the person (or his family) who did the lashing……
nope.
wow…. no.
im all for spanking kids when they’ve done something wrong though
3248 posts…
ouch.
NO.
absolutely not!
Hurting people IS bad, but what about those that hurt first. Does their extreme behavior not warrant extreme punishment? It’s pretty obvious our judicial system is screwed up and so called “jail time” is only a way for criminals to gain more of an ex-con education. I don’t like the idea of lashings, but in all honesty I would not feel the least bit sorry for criminals that warrant that kind of punishment. It would be better than my tax dollars being wasted .
I’m not for torturing people… however, if someone feels the need to beat the living crap out of someone, such as a kid, an elderly, or just anyone for the sake of beating someone, possibly even to death (as my 18 month old cousin was), then I say… Suck it up, you’re getting your ass beat too!
Sure. Let’s start with Congress.
Some people need to have some sense beat into them. Just some people though, the whole population shouldn’t be made to suffer because of a few fools.
NO!
What the hell? NO.
No death penalty, no tasing, no fucking beating your kids.
Maybe I’m just a dirty communist or something, but I personally think hurting people is BAD.
Signed.
Well, I messed up on that one, utterly failing to credit hello_insanity for her bit of wisdom.
I want to shoot the person who sentenced that raped woman to 200 lashes. She’s probably dead now. v_v
no
All for it and since when can you punish people without being cruel? Give them all timeout I guess.
Injecting someone with lethal drugs or electrocuting them and spanking your child on the bottom is completely different than whipping them to the point that they bleed and can’t move for weeks without that burning sensation the guy talks about.
So no to the lashings, but yes to spanking your kids, yes to the death penalty.
HELL NO. The potential for abuse is just too great…
no lashes.
Very interesting
“spanking your child on the bottom is completely different than whipping
them to the point that they bleed and can’t move for weeks without that
burning sensation the guy talks about…so…yes to spanking your kids” -hum_hallelujah
Agreed.
And yeah, that raped woman who was sentenced to 200 lashes is probably dead now…sad =[
So what if they do make a law saying you can’t spank your children? Would parents actually not spank their children anymore? I would, in the privacy of my own home, of course.
“Spare the rod, spoil the child.”
how horrible…
Oh no! No! No!
The amount of people that subscribe to the “eye for an eye” view point is disgusting to me.
What ever happened to rehabilitation so they can become a productive member of society?
Nah, there is no way the U.S. should adopt these practices. There is a clause in the 8th (I think) Amendment that states “no cruel and unusual punishment”. Lashings would violate that law.
And let some government tell me I couldn’t spank my children if I thought it necessary. I would tell them to throw me in jail and F&^% off. I was spanked. I am not a traumatized person, nor do I feel I was abused. I was disciplined in many different ways as a child and none of them were out of line. I want to know when that crap goes down because I will vote against that or call my Senator to do the same.
OMG that sounds terrible…
Maybe terrible isn’t the right word. Is there a right word?
Depends on the crime.
I am rather torn on this subject…
The mom in me thinks that anyone who harms children in any way should receive as many lashes as the person giving them can dish out.
That typically drowns out the good Catholic in me that screams turn the other cheek.
Then there is the rational part of me that thinks, if we start with lashes today, tomorrow we will chop off the hands of theives, then we will publically castrate rapists, and then we wake up and we are who we started out fighting against.
I am not against punishment, but if we are to keep the high horse we claim to be on, then there are certain things that we cannot ever do. And sadly it doesn’t matter how much the mom in me thinks it is just and fitting.
It would do some good if implemented properly, but I’m not sure if it’d be the best option or not.
However, regardless of this man’s guilt/innocence or the law in question, he obviously got the point and would think long and hard before intentionally breaking any laws that brought such a punishment. I’m not saying we should give 40 lashes to jaywalkers or random people, but it is easy to see some of the effectiveness this can have.
Wow. thanks for sharing
of course not. that’s ridiculous.
http://www.christsbondservants.com/lwthoughhewascrucified.htm
read this, it is a good account for what Jesus had to endure with the lashings and the cross.
lol, no.
Depends on the crime.
If I name my pet lizard Mohammad, people will want to kill me.
Those people who think that is right and just are insane and need to be tasered by wacked out LA poice.
maybe… of course, we have states in the US even outlawing spanking kids. *rolls eyes* I hate the stupid stuff about this country sometimes. We’re the laughingstock of the entire world…
FUCK NO! whippings, lashing, stonings, or the death pelanty
they’re all sadistic and cruel to be carried out by the goverment
i honestly beleive that the punishment should be legally left up 2 the victim (victim itself, victim’s family, victim’s friend) and if they want to lash the bastard who hurt them, let them do it…but if it reaches too excessively…then the victims should be tried and be punished for their excessivness in handing down the punishments…
that’s how i think our system should work