June 21, 2011
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Half-Naked Photos Online
I woke up this morning and saw a debate on a few blogs and a few pulses about a young lady who posted photos of herself “half-naked.” The photos actually were of the young lady in her bikini.
The girl was 17-years-old. An older guy left a comment on her blog mentioning that he wanted to copy her photos. This led to an outburst. I don’t really want to talk about the guy involved. What was interesting was some of the comments about the 17-year-old girl. It was said that she was seeking attention and a few people went even farther in trashing her.
I am off work this week because I am on vacation. I took my family to the beach in Galveston. We saw all kinds of people on the beach in bikinis. I didn’t feel any of them were being slutty about it. I understand you don’t go to school in a bikini. But I am not sure it is a big deal to post photos of yourself on a social network in your bikini.
Is Xanga the appropriate place to post photos of yourself in a bikini?
Comments (107)
Beach is public. Xanga is public. Sure why not.
My stance on this subject can be completely summed up in my newest post.
I think the issue people took with this was her age, as she still qualifies as a minor. But I haven’t really followed this ‘story’.
In general, though, I see no problem with it if the one posting the pictures is comfortable with the fact that others may not be so at ease with what’s posted.
I don’t see why not
No Dan, none of us want to see you in a Bikini! LOL
I posted a picture of myself in a tutu and no one had a problem with it. What the heck’s wrong with it? Everyone’s site is their own personal space to with what they will. And everyone else has the free will to click on or away from that site.
The guy should have kept his mouth shut because there is a fine line that us older bloggers have to watch out for. Hell I even been careful not to comment at all on girls blogs like that when they are under 24. That is just me though, I do not want to be known as the old creeper on everyone blogs.
If you’re 17, the actual appropriate place is reddit.com/r/jailbait. Yes it exists; whether it’s as creepy as it sounds depends on your perspective.
Sure, but do people really want to see pictures of myself in a bikini?
Why not? It’s just a bikini.
Rob_of_the_Sky
@Rob_of_the_Sky - I do.
Also, I posted pictures of myself in my underwear. I’m 20, and it’s the same thing as posting myself in a bikini. If you all have a problem with it you can bite me. I was making a point in that entry anyway, I didn’t do it so guys could oogle me. Trust me, they oogle me whether I’m posting pictures of myself with clothes or not.
Freedom of expression.
From the comments here, it’s clear that people seem to think you have to wear a burka til you’re 18.
Why is wrong if it’s a bikini? You wear it in public.
well, people do it anyway. but if you’re underage then it’s probably best not to. you can’t expect to put up sexy photos of yourself and NOT have people be attracted to you, save your pictures and even jack off to them.
I did the same as well. Well, of me in a bikini top with my PJ pants on.
If the pictures are clear-as-day, “don’t you think I’m sexy”, type of photos, then yes- el mucho grande problemo.
But, for myself, I had those photos as my first step towards my self-acceptance towards the body I have & to show girls that, yep, I might not be as thin as a bone, but I have accepted myself and that’s what matters
xo’
@AmeliaHart - This.
If you are talking about the person I think you are.. She did have bikini pictures but she ALSO had pictures in her bra. The guy was a much older married man that openly said that he was saving the pictures.. the pictures of a 16-17 YEAR OLD GIRL! Totally inappropriate and disgusting. There is no good reason why he would need to save the pictures
But to answer your question.. I don’t have a problem with people posting bikini pictures. Although, I do think it’s a terrible idea to post pictures in your lingerie when you are underage and have a public site..
Its all up to person. If they are going to do it…can you really stop them
@carolinavenger - Does that really exist? o_o
People are commenting on her age as being a minor, which is true – but if she was older, it would be considered “unprofessional” (say she was in a professional job, like a teacher). Then she might get fired for posting that picture. People take things wayyy to far nowadays, I think. All in all, I think it’s what the girl thinks. Was she creeped out by the guy? If not, then whatever; if so, then she learned her lesson.
Posting pictures of yourself in a bikini should only be dangerous if you’re Newt Gingrich
I don’t see it as a big deal. Yea the girl is underage and that could be seen as child porn… But, people walk around in there swim suits all the time, as an adult or a teenager. Yea a picture can be suggestive, mattering on you, your facial expression or your body langue or the way you talk usually. (Well that only really counts if all you do is talk about fucking… :/) but I don’t see it as a big deal, I’ve posted them a few times, as a reminder to me more that I love my body…
If enough people say “yes” there’s a photo of me in a Speedo that will be posted.
Didn’t this girl posted a hand-bra photo last year?
No big deal there. Doesn’t the Bible depict Adam and Eve with only a leaf?
Everything everybody posts publicly is done for attention; that’s the nature of blogging. As for the appropriateness, it depends on the suit and the pose. If it’s a thong suit and the top barely covers her nipples and she’s posing like a Playboy centerfold then yes, it’s inappropriate. If it’s the type of suit every 17 year old girl is wearing to the beach or the pool and she’s not arching her back and thrusting her chest forward – there’s nothing wrong with it. The “older guy’s” comments are inappropriate under any circumstances.
If it is the person I think you’re talking about the problem is that she was in bras, a minor, and the guy was a married Christian man who said he was saving the pics to his computer. It’s not right, that’s why people were upset.
I think if you’re going to post pictures of yourself in your bra and bikini on a public website you shouldn’t be too surprised that someone plans on saving them to his computer.
I don’t think posting half-naked pictures of yourself is the smartest thing to do (and by that I mean, its actually kind of dumb). I mean, you seriously never know what frickin weirdo is looking at your site/pics and although its not likely some crazed stalker finds you and wants to rape/kill you….it has happened. So why do it? For attention? Cuz you’re “proud of your body”? Who cares if you’re proud of their body? (btw, the answer is “no one”). I’m sure there are a lot of girls on Xanga that are proud of their body…..but actually use Xanga to write something intelligent or interesting. But I’m not gonna blame these girls really…..cuz well, teenagers…are frickin dumb. No offense, but that’s just reality. Not to say teenagers have low IQ’s …but its just that, for the strangest reason , its when you are 16-19 that you think you have the world and reality all figured out. And its not until 10-15 years later that you realize how little you actually knew, and that you now regret having naked pics circling somewhere on the internet (and in various creepy old fogie’s hard drives), or regret getting that big lame tattoo that you thought was so “deep and meaningful” (and it turns out the tattoo artist messed up on the Chinese characters it doesn’t even mean what you thought it did) or sleeping with 42 different guys in high school….and realizing “hey, my parent’s weren’t morons after all, they actually know a lot about life!”.
As far as the old guy saving half naked pics of minors…..WTF!?! It seems to me that this needs to be the bigger concern here. That’s just straight heeby-jeeby! Actually, its pretty damn disturbing. But I guess this all goes back to my first point….we all know there’s weirdo creepy guys out there…..most are harmless….but some not. So girls should just err on the side of caution. Proud of your body? That’s great….go stare at yourself naked in front of the mirror for a full hour while bumping MIMS’ “This is Why I’m Hot”….. cuz its just never a great idea to post your half naked pics on the internet.
I think I will post my photo in bikini
i have bikini pictures on mine.
they can suck it.
@Queen_of_You188 - yes it does. It’s not really quite as bad as it sounds. If you read the community rules it’s actually not as creepy as you’d think (although it still weirds me out a bit personally).
@Rob_of_the_Sky - Yes.
it creeps me out that random people were oogling or saving my pics when I used to publicly post my pics during the popular myspace era. I did it for attention when I was younger and regret posting some of the pics that I did, because I noticed my pics on a site before where someone was pretending to be me, but I called the person out and shut it down. I value my privacy nowadays. pics can be quickly spread around and used for malicious purposes. the difference is that at the beach, they just casually look and that’s it, unless they secretly take pics and save them later for creepy uses.
I missed what happened but it sounds creepy.
I think people should worry about real issues like identity theft and crime! Not pictures of people doing nothing wrong… it is not illegal to walk around in public in a bikini nor for that matter your underwear. Who cares? People are prudes who too much about the wrong thing. They should have only attacked the pervert saving her pictures, not her.
@saintvi - I agree that not just the suit is important but also the pose. You could be fully dressed and pose inappropriate pictures.
The Net is a horrible place to be posting such pictures, especially if you haven’t bothered to think through the possible consequences.
I’ve heard a bit about this but not much. This actually has more detail in it – I thought she was nearly naked based on some of the buzz on Xanga. I hadn’t heard about the old creep though. Sounds like he should have his IP address blocked from Xanga.
Anyway – while I find bikinis in general to be distasteful, I don’t think that means that they should be prohibited. To explain why I find bikinis distasteful – well.. I see one comment here from a woman who says the other picture the girl posted was her in a bra and how inappropriate that is. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I believe that bras cover exactly as much as a bikini or MORE. And I KNOW that underwear (99% of them anyway) cover MORE than a bikini bottom does. So, while I agree that it is inappropriate to show pictures of oneself in lingerie, I also believe bikinis are inappropriate. Still – it’s her site. She can easily block the creep from her site. Although it’s too late for those pictures of her he already copied and is probably jerking off to, the sicko.
hm…I wouldn’t post half-naked photos and I’m already an adult. Those photos get saved and passed all over the Internet. And if you don’t realize that, you’re pretty naive.
I’ll post pictures of myself in a bikini on Facebook if I’m actually near some water. Otherwise, I feel like I’m trying to come off as sexy which is not my goal.
Here’s the thing, men are going to take care of their business to whatever they find, that’s a known fact to anyone above the age of what ? 18 ? So being she is so young, she obviously has a nice body and wants to show it off, there isn’t anything wrong with that, consequences have to be accepted though. Which would be men of all ages peeking and doing what they will with the photo.
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The girl is 16 and they were bras, not swimsuits. People have just been comparing it to swimsuits.
I did it. So, yeah.
i don’t see what the harm is. people need to chill the hell out.
The caveats that Kendra stated in her post on the subject are valid, and should be considered by people of all ages. Another friend said she was careful to employ counter-measures with the guys with whom she shares photos, as a sort of insurance against revenge later on. The matter of prospective future employers, business rivals and even one’s future children seeing the photos later on, was also discussed.
I am all for freedom of expression, but I don’t relish the thought of one of my friends having her good name dragged through the mud, because of an act that is, in intent, harmless. If I see a photo of one of my friends on line, I will tell her she’s pretty, or he looks good, or whatever I feel about the photo. I don’t save the photo, don’t ogle the girl, nor do I need to.
My dear Xanga friends, do have fun, but guard yourselves as well.
@firetyger - just want to correct. He’s not Christian. He’s religious, but has many beliefs.
@LKJSlain - I could’ve sworn there was a time he told me he was Christian but maybe things changed since then? I dunno…
@firetyger - I think he “thinks” he’s a christian, but in reality he has many beliefs that don’t really line up with christianity. Like I said, “religious” – also, I believe he’s divorced.
I don’t think its that big of a deal. If people wanted masturbation material, there are thousands of free porn sites.
@firetyger - He said his wife finds it okay. The time will come when the model herself won’t find it okay. Such photos can be part of a girl’s growth experience, bu really should be available to her select few.
Can I just point out that this site is accessible world wide and here in the uk the age of consent is 16 so she isn’t a minor in my eyes and in addition to this if at 17 she feels that this is a good idea then she has her own mind a camera and a pc who’s to stop her. As for the male comments again this is a public website so there are probably many people inappropriately looking at those photos something which you have to be aware of whenever you post anything.
@Doubledb - speak for yourself.
To everyone who felt the need to bitch about this: boo fucking hoo. Grow the fuck up.
I think the people who find it just ’un-called for’ have a stick up their ass. We all know what a woman in a bikini (or underwear) looks like, hell.
I understand that adults are worried though, because pics on the net can destroy your carreer and stuff, and sometimes you generally regret things you did when you were young and find them embarassing. But I think these teens we are talking about (of 16 and up) are not little kids. People are different at that age…some are relatively mature and experienced, others not. Perhaps some of them regret it…but perhaps they also know what they are doing and just decide for that, because they want to. It is never fair to trash anyone. You can tell them you wouldn’t do it, ask fo their motivation, but calling them names and jumping to conclusions is just mean and respectless.
I don’t wear bikinis. *shrug*
What I find puzzling in the comments is how the older guy is automatically creepy for enjoying her photos and saying he was going to save them. What if he was 19? or 29? Would it be “creepy” then? What if he was 39 or 49? Why does age make a difference?
Most men and women are in their peak physical condition and attractiveness between about 17 or so (maturity) and about 30. If you enjoy looking at attractive people, they are most likely going to fall in that range. Most men enjoy the physical attractiveness in women. That does not diminish with age.
When I was 20, I enjoyed looking at a pretty girl in a bikini, especially if she was tall and slender. As I aged, I still enjoy that, although I realized that now I also enjoyed seeing older attractive women in bikini’s too. When I was 20 I wouldn’t really have noticed a 40 something year old, even if she was pretty. Now I do.
If the tables were turned, and the girl in the bikini was 47 instead of 17, and the guy was say, 20 instead of 60, how would that change the dynamics?
Just because you enjoy or appreciate someone’s appearance doesn’t automatically mean you are a perv, that you are going to go whack off to their pic or stalk them or something. I can appreciate attractive women that are 20 years older than I am, and simply think, wow, she is in great shape, she must either have had great genetics or work out really hard to maintain her body. Doesn’t mean I want to bang her anymore than I would think that with some 19 year old.
Your perspective also changes when you have your own kids that suddenly become teens. When their friends come over to the pool in their bikini’s and you realize they are the same age as your children. All the sudden, they aren’t “hot”, they are your kid’s friends.
Don’t be so quick to label someone weird or a perv for appreciating the beauty in another. And if you are going to post pics of yourself online, be modest. There are that given few that are going to perv over you regardless of age or gender, comes with the territory. And yes, suggestive pics will come back to haunt you, either in future relationships or possibly job situations. Same for the tats and piercings. May seem harmless enough now, but how many CEO’s do you know with noserings, earloops and tongue bars?
Think big picture.
I think it is a tad creepy that he wanted to save pictures of a minor. :/ but i don’t think its wrong to put a bikini photo up. If she looked good sure why not. As long as it isn’t for sexual purpose or anything.
I believe the guy was married, in which case the only person’s opinion that matters is his wife’s. If she doesn’t mind, then it’s nothing. If she does mind, then it’s absolutely wrong.
I posted pictures of myself in my bikini, what’s the big deal?
What the fuck are you guys talking about!? I AM THE MORAL AUTHORITY HERE!!!! Grab an 8 year old, and have sex with her. To love someone is to have sex.
Was she on the beach? Would they have a problem if it was of her on the beach with her friends and everyone was in bikinis? Context throws everyone in a tizzy. I don’t see a problem.
i haven’t seen the photo in question so i cannot comment to its appropriateness specifically, however i would not personally post a picture of myself in a bikini
There are a lot worse on here of young girls than a bikini, undie, or bra pic.
She’s a minor, so NO, it’s not appropriate. I personally wouldn’t ever post a picture of myself with just a bikini on. I would probably post it under a protected post only. You never know who is looking at your site. ;/
I don’t think it was necessarily inappropriate. Obviously people take great pictures of themselves to get some sort of hopefully positive reaction or attention – not necessarily to be an attention whore – but fact is a lot of people young or old post great looking pictures of themselves. She looks very beautiful, older than 17, and I wouldn’t say slutty, because I’ve seen tons of other 17 year olds and younger post tons of pictures that were way more provocative than this one. The only thing I would say, is that her being so young – or just with anyone posting pictures of themselves tasteful or non tasteful – that you have to be careful of the creeps out here. She is in a bikini, showing skin – and unfortunately the fact is it’s going to attract the creeps – so just be cautious about it. I also don’t think she deserves any negative comments – she looks great, and bikini or no bikini – I don’t think she’s trying to look slutty or provocative at all.
I think it depends. If you’re posing in a way that’s trying to be “sexy”, then you might as well be in your underwear, I guess. But if you’re like “woo, got a new bikini, isn’t it cute?” and it’s just a picture, then I don’t see how it’s a problem. Also, if it’s a picture of you on the beach or by a pool, then it isn’t slutty (unless the bikini is extremely immodest.)
Xanga is a public page, just like any other website. If she didn’t want the whole world to see it then she should have had her account on friends lock, just like any other site. I don’t know what the hell she expected, there are all kinds of perverts out there who like to look at teenage girls, she should have thought about that. It’s her own fault.
It’s 2011, not 1955. Get with the times.
No it’s not, unless you want a virtual pedophile chasing you.
@RulerofMasons - What’s wrong with you?
the difference between being out in public with something and being in pictures is pictures can be saved and spread… like when the girl is in her twenties and trying to get a job, its no big deal if she wore a bikini in her life but it might be a big deal if there are pictures of her on the internet showing a questionable amount of skin.
I don’t know, I’m not judging anyone but I personally wouldn’t do it myself, and I’d be really disappointed in my sisters if they did something like that, too.
I don’t wear bikinis.
“Officer, how was I supposed to know she was only 13??”
There’s an episode of Degrassi about this…
Definitely attention seeking. Posing in a bikini on Xanga says, “Look at me! I’m hot, right?” I’m not interesting in looking at bikini clad women, but those pictures are not for me. They are intended to elicit responses to feed the ego of the one who posted. Aren’t we all seeking some kind of attention on Xanga?
Hah… I posted a picture of myself in a bikini in my last entry. And it’s def not the first time. Aaaah, xanga. Gotta love it.
Uhm that’s just child pornography, obviously. I mean geeze, who walks around taking pictures of themselves with their genitals all covered and shit, gawd….
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@Doubledb - LMAO
Most definitely, I believe it’s okay. It’s just a matter of discretion. The issue being that the girl is still a minor, such as myself, so there is the possibility that it could go wrong for her. I don’t plan on posting pictures of myself in a bikini merely because I don’t wear one. I do not know the girl who posted such pictures personally, so I will not make a judgement on why she did it.Freedom of expression, as one blogger commented. The man, contrarily, was totally out of line.
Yes it is and the person doing it better be ready for comments. The women will call her sluts and the men will hit on her, especially the old pervs. Some of the women will hit on her too. I would be asking where her parents are while she is doing this?
@ohveryoung - I just went and read the post you are referring too and it is excellent and well written.
@godfatherofgreenbay - Oh no not that:)
I thought she was 16?
While I agree that it is not a big deal for a 17 year old to post pictures of herself in a bikini (or underwear, if we’re being real here- I’m pretty sure most of them were bras), I also think it’s pretty… creepy of you, as well, to decide to comment on the body of the 16 or 17 year old, rather than the fact that a middle aged man copied her photos? And it was even creepier on his part when you realize that it WAS bras, not bikinis. Material wise, not much different, but there is an obvious sexual connotation to bras, making it an unwise photo for an old man to public admit to saving to his computer.
Phrasing was everything, as well- he didn’t even ask, “Do you mind if I do?” He said something like, “I hope you don’t mind that I already copied them.” Which really doesn’t give the person many options if they DID mind. The guy actually is the biggest problem here and perhaps it is reflective of a society wishing to give perverts second chances that you are attempting to shield him through the way you phrase the question?
I think it is perhaps unwise to post the pictures… because kids at that age think they are more aware of repercussions than they really are. Everything becomes framed in the context of “whether or not they are proud of their bodies,” rather than “whether or not it is a good idea to public display them to anyone who wishes to see.” I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong morally; I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a porn star, but I also would advise a 17 year old to wait a few years before pursuing that. It’s not the girl that is the problem, it is a society that is eager and waiting to rip girls apart for doing things like that (and porn is different from pictures since that industry can be very tough on the vulnerable and young. And obviously different for other reasons as well). So I guess that’s a quandry, because I shouldn’t encourage girls to allow society to shape them. But I guess for their own well being, it might be advisable to at least… put some sort of privacy lock on their ish. Or wait until you’re sober to post it! It’s always good to have your facilities about you for things like this.
@godfatherofgreenbay - YESSS!!!
@nattata -My question exactly and he is just a bottom crawler.
No different than posting it on Facebook.
@godfatherofgreenbay - LMAO go for it!
I never saw those pictures and I have teen daughters whom are not allowed to wear bikinis. I don’t want my girls attracting the wrong attention. For the person who commented on that girl’s picture, he should be ashamed of himself. If he has a daughter I’d hate to think what he thinks of his daughter or how he sees her. My daughters are not even allowed to wear anything “sexy” nor post pictures unless they are decent pictures. I may sound like a strict mother but I’d rather my daughters were safe than dress inappropriately and get in trouble. I am not saying that girl was wrong in posting what she wanted but she must have been aware of the consequences this action of hers would have brought on here. So much can be said about this. Like where the hell are her parents when said girl is posting such pictures?!? I won’t even allow my daughters online and they are 16. One must be very careful about what one puts out there for the world to see.
Because I’m participating in Seedsowers Color Post, Photo Challenge, tomorrows theme is Summer. I will be posting a picture of myself in a bikini. However, because I’m self concious about my looks and all, the only thing I’m showing will be my top half while I’m in a swimming pool.
a bikini is generally smaller than a bra. so, there’s that grey area. bikini or bra is all the same, really. 16 year old is under age, and they guy was probably a pervert. not sure what’s legal and not, though.
It looks like something she would wear on a beach. If it was her lingerie, then controversy would make sense (considering that lingerie is worn in private). But then again, she can do what she wants to do, and I don’t see why people judge.
@ThereWillBeDragons - I remember when there were Sexxangas on the front page and you would be clicking through Featured Blogs and BAM you’d get a screenful of some Xangan’s boobs/vag/junk.
I can’t see a problem with it. It’s just a bikini. She’s not posing in a way that could even be interpreted as slutty. It’s just a normal bikini. It’s not exceptionally risque or anything like that. People are overreacting if they have an issue with her. If i was her, i probably wouldn’t post pictures like that, simply because there are guys who will enjoy them a little too much. But that’s not her fault.
I think a good rule of thumb when posting pictures on the internet is to ask yourself..”what would my mom/dad think if they saw this?”
I know my parents wouldn’t have a problem with a picture of me in a bikini.
People should lay off this girl. She’s just enjoying summertime.
WHO CARES? it’s their page, no one else’s.
I dont think its the appropriate place but if you want to go for it.
Yes, it can constitute child porn but it is also not pornographic.
@Tymedancer_is_Grannyinboxers - Thank you very much
FYI there are cases of teenagers getting arrested for emailing naked photos of themselves to other teenagers. It counted as distributing child pornography. Underwear or bikini is not the same as naked, but the line of what is pornographic and what is not can be a very thin one, especially in more conservative areas.
can I post myself in a bikini? awesome!
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