May 31, 2006
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High School Education
It has been reported that a number of people have been dropping out of high school but still going on to college. According to the New York Times, 2 percent of people in college do not have a high school diploma. The number has been increasing.
Apparently this has caused some to question whether people should be eligible for financial aid in college if they haven’t received their diploma. A few states are trying to address this issue.
Should people who have not graduated from high school be eligible for financial aid in college?
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Yes sir, my son got a GED and is now on the dean’s list in his junior year.
8th time. yeah they should.
Yes. it’s the only way my uncle would ever get an education.
I think they deserve it if they had a good grade average while they were in high school…
yes, but no more than anyone else does.
As long as they have a GED or can show that are able to meet the criteria.
yes they should regardless of gpa in highschool or “standing” within the community
Only if they get a GED. Its not fair to those who stuck it out if the people who just plain didn’t want to finish get the same amount of aid as the others.
I am not sure how they are getting into college, but if they want to turn their life around and be educated and all things being equal, than sure they should get aide.
I agree with parkinn.
Sure why not? I made horrible grades in high school and up until College Algebra, had a 4.0 in college. (I hate Math) I don’t think you’re head is on entirely straight when you’re in high school.
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Hi Dan,
Yeah, let’em….They have finally wised up and decided to get their learn on.
Love, Candy
it’s not 1st but i’m on the 1st page. go me!
and yes. they need it. if they are qualified enough to get accepted to college they should recieve assistance
Only if the get a GED or something else to show that they should be able to go to college… otherwise… NO.. they dropped out and they should go back and get their diploma…
of course. I graduated from med school without an undergrad degree.
A GED at least has to be mandatory, I think. Otherwise, no.
Allow me to elaborate. My son got into big trouble with his life and was out of school in the 9th grade. He’s fortunate to not be in jail or dead. Now he’s 26, has turned his life around, is engaged to be married and is working his tail off to get an education. He’s not going to college just for a piece of paper for a job. He’s there because he wants to train his mind to think. I’m immensely proud of him and I know he would not have had this chance were it not for financial aid. He’s deserved it far more than some of the spoiled and lazy brats I used to teach at my high school.
Only if they’ve got a GED. As a lot of other people have said.
I thought you had to be a high school graduate to even be accepted to college. But, if they are allowed to go, then I guess they should qualify for financial aid … I don’t know … what an interesting question.
yep.
Somebody that dumb doesn’t deserve money from the government.
Why not? Who care about HS? HS is a waste of time.
The federal government should support education, at all costs. Any financial awards given to any one should always be merit based–so if a person has proven him or herself, I am all for supporting them, whether or not they did not finish high school. A GED is good enough for me.
you should at least have to have your GED to receive state or national aid, however, money from the college itself, individual people, or private organizations should not be the cause of debate or legislature.
~~~megan
GED=Diploma. As long as you have one of them, yes.
I think that it’s really up to the college to decide; if the guy works hard enough, why should he be banned as if from an exclusive club?
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sure
If they can pass entrance exams that will insure that they know what they need to know to do well in college, I see no problem with that.
only if they have a GED. if they just dropped out, sucks for them.
HS is not always the best time to show off your brain – some people do much better at college than they ever did in HS. But it’s not that big a deal to get a GED if you didn’t finish – at least make the effort, to show that you are serious about learning and getting an education – before expecting financial aid on the same level as those who do have a diploma or GED.
depends, if they are failing all their classes and drop out cuz they r lazy, no.
only under certain circumstances
in the past, i’ve mentored kids who had to work throughout h.s. to support their families, & unfortunately, they weren’t able to focus on school, so they had to go back to get their GEDs. i admire their ambition to overcome those obstacles & to obtain a college education despite their setbacks.
if they have the drive to go to college, they deserve an equal opportunity for financial assistance…
Is this no diploma, and no GED? Either way…..
So, some states would deny, say, a baby boomer (looking for financial aid and) going back to school after having dropped out of high school? I doubt it. If someones application fits the bill (and they have the cognitive ability) does it matter whether or not they’ve finished high school? I mean, if they can pass college classes with out having soaked in the “valuable” education available in high school …more power to them, hm?
I thought that college had become the new high school anyway. What with this “delayed adolescence” plaugeing youth. Kids growing up to fast and suddenly regressing. Besides, I thought high school was supposed to be teaching you to learn, just a transitional step. Making it more closely related to kindergarten (where social skills and age appropriate behavior used to be the focus) then a institution of higher learning.
*shrug*
-Chanda
Yes. Some people have issues or are in a situation that may force them to drop out and get a GED, and when they are able to go to college they should have just as much of a chance at financial aid as everyone else.
As a hardworking student, I have grown up believing that highschool is a step leading up to college. People who drop out of highschool have no business in college–in my opinion. However, if a college accepts someone who dropped out of highschool, there’s no reason not to provide financial aid.
I think anyone who has achieved a GED should be seriously congratulated. It’s a whole lot harder to cram 4 years of high school into one giant course. Furthermore completing a GED takes as much courage if not more, than going to high school. I think financial aid should be looked at through the eyes of financial need. It’s no wonder more people are dropping out of high school. At least I haven’t taught my kids how to shoot a gun or basic defense strategies for street combat. (Probably taught in pre-school in Israel.) Sad to say – but I wouldn’t wish public school on anyone these days – not even the teachers.
If the college has qualified them to go to the school, I don’t see why not.
oOo well there are various
qualifying reasons for
not graduating hs.
if they can do it and make their way
then let them create a brighter future!
I think yes. If they actually want to better themselves and continue their education, why shouldn’t they deserve it like everyone else…
NO. I agree with jamesmind. His comment says it all.
I suppose a GED is acceptable, but seriously, who can’t graduate from high school?
In all honesty, they will be giving that person money one way or antoher probably….because without an education, even a HS Diploma, all they probably have is a minimum wage job, so they are probably on welfare…
YES.
Of course they should. College is just as expensive for them, and if they need financial aid, they need it just as badly as anyone who did finish high school. It would be unfair to exclude them from that opportunity.
if they got their GED they should but if they just quit they shouldn’t
I don’t see a problem with it as long as they meet the same established requirements as everyone else. They don’t deserve any kind of special treatment, I think.
this is directed at the comment from respectably stranded. There are alot of reasons people don’t graduate from high school…my fiance for that matter, has his GED….and he is a smart man, but many many years ago his alcoholic step father kicked him out on the street and he didn’t even have a place to live let alone have time for high school because he went to work to get money to afford a place to live….he finally got his GED and this year he started looking at colleges to attend in the fall….
When I lived in New Mexico, many many students, who were American Indians and Hispanic (and were legal citizens) dropped out of high school to go to work to help support their families…it’s not a matter of *can’t*, it’s much more complicated then that….
Yes. High School is a waste of time. As long as they have a good score on their ACT, they should be able to.
I think they should, many kids don’t finish high school not for lack of ability but lack of stability. Let kids get there wits about them and return when they are ready. It is allready such an awkward period in ones life.
i know that some colleges (particularly community colleges and junior colleges) offer a some classes that are equivalent to the courses offered in high school…. and it is possible to get an equivalent of a high school diploma (GED) from colleges. although the courses in public high schools are free, i think that it is a bit of a waste of money on the governments behalf to pay for a student to take courses that are offered free of charge. not only does it take money away from other eligible students, who have their diploma, it limits the available funds the government can put toward other important issues.
Depends on the situation.
yes, because they are trying to further their education just like everyone else.
If they haven’t graduated HS, then maybe they shouldn’t be going to college…
I think so, most drop outs that are wanting to go to college aren’t your average dumb ass.
Yes. A lot of people are just too immature as teenagers and then they wise up. You know the old saying about giving a man a fish or teaching a man to fish. Better to spend some on education than a lot on their later welfare and medical (these dropouts would surely be uninsured).
yes. what would happen to homeschoolers and people who graduate from other such schools.
I was a hs drop out..but I graduated from a prestigious university and I am studying to get my jd/mba. I also got a pretty kickass job right after college as a revenue analyst in one of the top REIT firms in US. Being a HS dropout doesn’t mean shit…so yes, on financial aid.
yes they should
If they pass the entrance exams for the school, I think they should be entitled to the same aide as someone with a diploma. High School is a waste of time for a lot of people academically, and does little to truly prepare you for college. If the person can get into college without a High School Diploma, more power to them.
if they can go through college w/out going through hell first…sure, y not
NO WAY!!!
h/e a GED would be acceptable. but nothing? i dont think so. thats just not fair to the people who actually worked their way into college.
If they have their GED then definitely… they have a right to it as much as anyone else!
The federal government should not support education. People should earn their education that way they are inclined to make the most out of it. Since when is it the governments job to hand everything to us? Do you think that the government will tax us and then give us back more for our money. We should shoot for lower taxes and less government so that people can spend their money how they want to spend it.
Don’t be naive, HS is NOT a waste of time.
It gives you time, but fools like you only waste it. Puh-lease. You think you can fast track to 1st year university and not be lost?
Hasn’t there been STUDIES PUBLISHED AND PROVEN that universities are forcing students to take english and math remedial courses to make up what they don’t learn in highschool?
My friend, who’s just graduated and had marked term psych papers, found people using fuxing internet talk like “lol.”
Highschool, a joke? Fuck no.
That’s a NO WAY for those who missed it.
Did I read that right? How in the WORLD can a student who hasn’t obtained their high school diploma EVEN APPLY to a college, let alone be accepted? No, no, no, a person should not be eligible for financial assistance to attend college if they haven’t earned their high school diploma.
no. they can go back and graduate.
Further more, people who fast track to college CAN ONLY DO SO IF THEY’VE INDEPENDENTLY ACQUIRED A HIGH-SCHOOL EQUIVALENT KNOWLEDGE.
You think you can just go from elementary school to college? What the FUCK are you thinking?
University doesn’t spoon feed, they walk in lecture you and walk out, and if you have experience with that, tough shit! Prof’s seldom care; and how can you learn to deal with this if you haven’t been through highschool?
Its not all about academics, highschool teaches you how to learn. Guh.
No one should get money from the government for dropping out of highschool! Just like lazy people should not get welfare.
why not??? if they wised up enough to go and get their GED then they should be able to have to option to pursue their education further
have you been to a modern highschool lately?
i just graduated from higschool and i can honestly say that it is the biggest waste of time and money i’ve ever had the displeasure of being forced to sit through. one can only stand being told to sit down, shut up, and do as your told for so long before they lose it, which is why so many people drop out.
just because you couldn’t make it through the productivity-vacuum of highschool, it shouldn’t be held against you your whole life.
~Dizzy
Yes, but only for remedial courses needed for them to get a GED
Yes.
GED yes, but how do ppl get into college without a high school diploma?
No
As long as he has his GED, I think it’s fair for anyone to have the opportunity to go to college.
As long as he has his GED, I think it’s fair for anyone to have the opportunity to go to college.
College, including financial aid for those who need it, should be reserved for people with a high school education (diploma or no diploma) as proven by passing a set of stiff high school exit exams—and high school should be reserved for students who have a bona fide elementary education, proven by passing a series of stiff exit exams at the culmination of eighth grade.
Dream on, Bryant. You know that for most kids their grade in the government holding tank we call the public school system means no more than the numbers of years they’ve been there. Only in a future utopia, or in the past in any small town in America, is there any connection between grade and proven knowledge.
Let anyone with proven knowledge go to college, regardless of age or diplomas. Let anyone who truly merits participation in college be equally eligible for financial aid, regardless of how he proved himself worthy to be there.
No…how can they give you financial aid if they don’t know whether you deserve it or not? Going to college isnt that easy…and if they give you financial aid and you havent even graduated from high school, they don’t know how your grades are etc… I wouldnt send anyone to a college like that….
yes atleast they are NOW trying to get on a better track and if they need finacial help to better themselves then so be it
once they complete a semester in school or if they have a GED
Of course they should!!
Think about it: people who drop out of high school tend to be from poorer backgrounds. They are the exact group of people who would have an even harder time getting to college. Anything we can do to help educate young people is great!
People don’t always drop out of high school b/c they’re “dumb.” People fail classes b/c they aren’t interested. They drop out b/c they have family issues to deal with (need to work in family businesses, or take care of mom and/or dad, or are beginning their own). I have a friend who’s incredibly smart and a great person but dropped out of HS b/c the school he was going to was sh*tty and pointless. Some of the smartest and most successful people right now were high school dropouts.
We claim in this country to be pro-education, for giving young people the opportunities they’ll need in order to succeed, despite their background or home situation. If you try to refuse financial aid to kids who dropped out of HS then you’re completely going against that whole idea.
no they shouldnt because they didnt fiinish school they dropped out and i think thats really pathetic and retarded at that
No. If you don’t have the will to get through high school, what makes you think you can make it in college? Giving dropouts financial aid would be a waste of time and money.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe most scholarships tend to come with the attached stipulation that you do well in school. It seems most of the people here who are saying that you need a HS diploma to go to college are saying so on the basis that those who don’t will go to college and do poorly and just take advantage of the system.
If I am remembering it right about scholarships, then those who do try college and flunk won’t continue to get fin aid. Problem solved. Those who are actually smart enough (in spite of whatever they went through in HS) wuill succeed and prove themselves to be very much “worthy” of college.
The 2 high school drop-outs that I know personally happen to be some of the smartest people I know (one of them got a GED and went on to college and is a chem engineer now working at a PhD level). I know many more HS grads who did much worse than they did.
I know one guy named Matt who started taking some college classes to supplement his homeschool education (he is in HS). He has taken some VERY difficult classes and has out performed the college students. I talked to him and he said that he wants to get a lot of college credits, and then transfer full time to college, even before he gets his HS diploma. He is SO smart that he is probably better suited for college than HS.
No, maybe back in the day it was alright, but now you need to have finished high school. If that was the case, people could just drop out, get their GED, and start college whenever.
I think they should have to go back and get their GED and then only a small amount of aid should be offered.
OH, and I also think that the aid that is offered should be specified to like buying books or paying tuition, not just cash in hand or for living expenses.
No, in my opinion they should not be able to attend college without a diploma or ged
As aforementioned, I was a highschool dropout but I took CHSPE (it’s like a GED but it’s only valid within the state CA) and passed. Thus, I was able to enroll in a community college (within CA, of course) and transfer to one of the top ranking university. Even though I worked full-time while going to school, financial aid helped me out immensely.
the funny thing is…even if financial aid is offered, doesn’t mean everyone will take advantage of it–some people just choose not to go college. Therefore, I think what’s more important is one’s drive for academic success rather than having this piece of paper stating that you’ve dragged ur bottom thru 4 yrs of highschool.
I am extremely disappointed with the comments left by some people. I honestly don’t understand how someone could deny a person who wants to learn, the chance to be educated. I firmly believe that education is what improves society–the more educated we are, the better off we are, too. It’s not a matter of money–the product is simply priceless.
those ungrateful sons of bitches didn’t even appreiciate free education in high school. you think they’ll appreciate it in college?
GED… but nothing less.
yes.
so thats who has been stealing “my” money…i’ve been looking for that stuff…no seriously, i have.
no, unless they have a GED. save the money for us kids who stuck it out in hs and completed 4 years.
gosh
Kelly
I got my GED and went to college . . . for what that’s worth.
DAN, HI. I SINCERELY HOPE YOU READ THIS, HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE GETTING INTO COLLEGE? HOW? PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE A SITE I COULD READ, DROP ME A LINE. FOR THAT MATTER ANYONE WHO KNOWS, PLEASE SHARE WITH ME. IS THERE A TEST THEY TAKE? PLEASE!
If they have there GED maybe but I don’t think they should be. Depends really.
I think so as long as they get a GED first.
Yes they should be. If they can do the work as well as people with a diploma, who cares. They deserve it.
Hell I didn’t know you could do that!
Sure, I think it is great. I know a few people who just went straight into college before they even graduated. One of my friends started going to college after his sophmore year in high school.
If they’re letting them into college, there’s no reason they shouldn’t get financial aid.
These people at least have a GED, right?
Why not? At least for those with a GED definitely but I don’t see why not for anyone. What does it matter to them?
I don’t think it’s fair to say that because you didn’t finish high school that you shouldn’t be given financial aide. Whether or not one has finished high school or not aside, financial aide should be open and available for people qualified with the grades they’ve earned and the character they’ve shown, not for the grades they haven’t earned. Financial aide is about your financial situation, not about whether you finished high school or have a GED.
I know in my town if you don’t graduate high school they really screw you over. When you drop out they take your license and you could possibly lose your job here. Oh joy, what an incentive. *sarcasm*
those ungrateful sons of bitches didn’t even appreiciate free education in high school. you think they’ll appreciate it in college?
Posted 5/31/2006 at 6:50 PM by cutzycrazygirl
No one in high school is ever grateful. But when we grow up we see what a stupid choice we’ve made and want to correct it. You’d take away that chance to change something they’d done wrong just because you think they *might* be ungrateful still? That’s very unfair. At least in college they have to pay some of their own weight. If they really don’t want to go out of their way to get into a college, then they won’t.
So, you don’t like highschool because you’re opposed to authority? Pretty big shit, chuck.
Like I said before, and I stand by it: there is no way to go into university without the equivalent of a HS education, gained through the school or independently. Fast tracking by skipping HS is plain fantasty. The random, rare genius will do it. But most likely, you aren’t one of the few.
Oh, I sense an oncoming argument: school doesn’t teach me what I’d need for college! TOUGH LUCK! Next time, pick a better course that interests you and is related to what you want to be?
Maybe if you spent more time paying attention to class instead of drooling and staring out the window, wondering where you’re gonna smoke pot and have sex next, HS wouldn’t be such a waste for you.
Like Bryant already said, if you can pass a set of stiff exams (set by anyone, by a universal board or by the indiv college) proving you have the prerequisite knowledge, by ALL means you are elligable for any sort of benefit you can get. IF YOU CAN PROVE YOURSELF WORTHY of it.
I think this subject has bothered me more then any other you’ve posted Dan…(I keep coming back and reading the comments…No offense, but some of these people who leave comments and say they have been “schooled” are leaving the most ignorant of comments….calling people who dropped out worthless and what not. They should be ashamed of themselves for thinking of another human being as worthless….Maybe I take it personal because of my fiance, having a GED, but I have known way to many children who dropped out because of their homelife and having to support themselves, not because they are a bunch of lazy, ignorant nothings…EVEN if, they did drop out of high school, why is it wrong for them to want to turn their lives around and make it better? You should continue to pay for the same mistake for the rest of your life….This is a case in point of “He without sin, should cast the first stone” if I ever saw one, and I’m not even religious
lol….
Sure, why not?
Without a high school or a GED they have no business being in college
So long as they pass an entrance exam…
Only if they get a GED.
yes!!! i am a homeschoooler and the diploma i receive isn’t “official” because it isn’t a regent’s diploma therefore i have no high school diploma to the goverment. everyone should be able to receive financial aid and i bet high school dropouts are the type who would need it most. a college education can change your life and that shouldn’t be witheld to you because of cost(i.e. you couldn’t get financial aid because you were home schooled or a high school dropout).
yes…
Hmm. Well, I don’t like it that my parent’s hard earned money goes towards my shool’s tuition (which is paid in full, no financial aid) when a portion of it goes towards my school’s finanncial aid fund for other students. So really, we’re paying for me & a few others to go to this school. There’s a reason private schools have high tuition…
Depends, did they or can they pass the GED? Haha…
I see it like this: as far as admissions, grant money, loans, scholarships and the like, a GED should be equally as valid as a High School Diploma and weighed the same. I know that colleges and universities look at more than just that slip of paper, such as participation in school activities and the like. But as far as looking strictly at the diploma and the GED, they should be looked at the same – not one as less or more than the other.
They should get a GED! Then they should be eligable for a limited amount I would think! Quite honestly high school is a cake walk! If you can’t make it through high school how are you going to deal with life! For those who mess up and have a kid or something you brought that on yourself! Suck it up and graduate!
I didn’t know it was possible to go to college without a highschool diploma or GED.
If you can’t even finish high school, how long are you going to last in college?
I Oklahoma students without a high school diploma or a GED must score within a certain range on either the ACT or an academic competency placement test in order to qualify for financial aid.
yeah
Sure why not?
iwish i could just go to college right now and not go to high school. They should just have harder entrance exams, so if you’re smart and dont want to waste time with HS, you can go straight to college. I’d do it.
should high school dropout be going to college in the 1st place?
Why shouldn’t they be? I remember when my sister graduated, there was a professor, I think from Harvard, who got to “graduate” with her class. He’s a brilliant guy, and he went to my high school when he was a teenager, but because of various moves about the country, he never graduated from high school. When the new principal found that out, he invited the guy to come get an honorary diploma from our high school. I can’t remember his name, but apparently he’s some brilliant astrophysicist or something who is famous in scientific circles and such.
So what that he never graduated… higher education is good for anyone who is willing to do the work, whether or not they finished high school.
Sure, as long as they have, or get, a GED!
of course!, lets not put more road blocks to people getting an education
I think that education should be available to those that want to better themselves.
As long as that person meets some sort of criteria and is accepted into the college because they have met the same criteria (Person 1 has a HS diploma, Person 2 has a GED) just as everyone else, then I say go for it.
~Caroline~
I thought that a high school degree was required to earn a federal award, apparently not…If you don’t even have the balls to stick it out in high school….or at least get a GED..how are you going to finish school????
no.i can’t believe people without a high school diploma are even eligible for college.
how many college students that get financial aid who got honors in high school do anything with what they’ve got????
just as you can skip a Master’s degree to pursue a Doctorate if the school allows you, why not allow people to enter college without a High School diploma?
as far as financial aid is concerned, the criteria should be blind to HOW you got in to school, and give you no more and no less consideration than anyone else
Absolutely. Just because you drop out of high school doesn’t mean you’re dumb. Sometimes, the kids that do are so smart, they’re just bored with high school. Or sometimes, it’s because of their financial situation with their families, and they need the aid more than anyone.
My older sister dropped out her sophomore year after she found out she was pregnant. As soon as she had the baby, she started college at age 16, graduated at 20, and went on to law school. She wouldn’t have been able to do any of that without financial aid.
She met her husband through law school, and they had two more kids. So, her first little boy just turned 11 last week, and she has a 2 and a 3 year old–crazy household!
Yes. College is a supreme opportunity. The way it is now, he would have to get a 3.0 average, or “B” average, to continue getting it. “Where there is a will there is a way!”
If we are speaking of public monies, i.e. taxpayer funded, then as long as there is no law prohibiting a person who has not graduated from a public institution, which is what I am assuming we are speaking of, from obtaining them, then yes.
As an aside, some of us who educate at home, our children do not receive diplomas, though many might devise something that resembles one. We simply used my sons SAT score as proof of his academic ablility. He has thus far posted a 4.0GPA, is enrolled in the university honors program, and is on the presidents list. All this to say that if a young man or woman are eligible for assistance, they should receive it if the law is to applied equitably.
Kindest regards,
T. Preston
all people should be entitled to an education. a high school diploma should not be a requirement. i wouldnt want to go to high school in this day and age either….but i want my kids to graduate and i want them to be able to go to college also.
i would never drop school. its such a rewarding experience for me.
At most places I know of, if you didn’t earn your high school diploma you have to at least get your GED. And many universities won’t let you apply if you have a GED but will instead make you first start at a community college and then transfer over after a while.
If they do not have their high school diploma or GED (A lot of homeschooled kids have a GED), then they should not be elgible for financial aid to college. If they cannot complete high school, or at least get a GED, they do not diserve state funded financial aid
Does the constitution demand for the federal government to financially provide for anyone’s education?
I would answer yes to the question anyway.
i think a portion but i do give props to those that did get a GED.
If someone feels they are prepared for collage, and Highschool is just dragging them down, then for sure!
I read the same article the other day and was discussing it with a friend at work. No, I don’t think they should be funded!!
Simple.. yes.. you don’t really learn much in high school anyways.. most of it’s just teenage drama anyways
If you can’t graduate from high school, kindly stay the fuck away from college. There are enough idiots around here as it is. Why should the government spend more money on kids to go to college if they weren’t even motivated enough to finish highschool? My best friend had a child in highschool and still finished. No excuses.
I’m not sure it’s even fair to give money to someone who decides to pick up college without atleast a GED. I’m going to a private institution with a scholarship, school grant, and will be out of school in debt. The government decided that my family didn’t deserve aid. I graduated from a homeschool high school with a high GPA and could have graduated a semester early.
Why give the reward to those that didn’t do the work when those that did do the work aren’t getting anything? If the school wants to give funding then they can.
Such a person should be able to show that he or she could have graduated high school, through a GED or similar. To get financial awards anyway one has to prove himself “worthy” of them. So if the person can do that, then sure.
No. If they couldn’t managed high school, the money would just be a waste.
why deprive them of financial aid, that h.s. b.s. dont really matter. college is where the learning really begins,the beginning of the rest of your life to make something of yourself, so you dont have to rely on the government to support your a–.
Of course! Graduation from HS or lack thereof has NOTHING to do with university admission!
I dropped out, got my GED, and went to college 6 years after HS.
Unfair. Grant scholarships to those who deserve them. Non-grads can qualify by taking all the tests that were to be passed in HS. Otherwise, having the precedents established could even lead to rendering HS education “obsolete” or to be more mildly put, unneccessary.
only if they get their GED. i dont think that the tax payers money should be used to fund their schooling if they didnt take advantage of it the first time the tax payers footed the bill for their free schooling.
> If they got their GED, yeah sure. People make mistakes, my daughter quit because the subject matter was tooo repetitive and those hard working teachers were too busy to help when needed…. she got a GED and was also an A to B average student in school. So GED, yes to funding. If not, there’s no excuse for lazy…
Peace
high school students are still classified as children and children make mistakes. if they’re trying to fix the wrong and make something better of themselves, they should get the money. if they triumph, then they become a better person, if they fail, they just helped someone else out with all that wasted money. it can go either way to me but it’s more of an optimistic view. optimism: the people are surprisingly Einsteins.
No.
Would that not cause controversy over those who do finish high school? Financial aid can be given to those instead of the dropouts. Is that not why they have adult schools? It’s a bit unfair that the aid go to the dropouts when it can be given to those who actually put forth the effort into finishing high school.
PS. I need financial aid.
Why not? It should depend on their financial situation AND if they are eligible. Intelligence shouldn’t be measured based on whether you didn’t finish high school or not. Maybe people had bad circumstances in which they had to drop out. People still deserve the chance to better themselves and excel in college.
I know this is a tad late to comment, but I just must.
Yes, financial aid should definitely be given to college students without a diploma. Do you know why a lot of college students don’t have a diploma? Some of them skip. I, myself, am skipping from my sophomore year to my freshman year at a college known as Simon’s Rock College of Bard, nearly 1000 miles away from home.
High school doesn’t provide for some students as well as college does. For some of us, it bores the heck out of us. Why bother staying in high school when you can be more challenged in college? I personally would rather be taking intro to politics, instead of sitting in a French class full of 2nd year students who still don’t know how to conjugate the French verb equivalent of “to be.”
Why should we get hurt financially for leaving something that wasn’t providing for our learning needs? I’m really sorry if I sound stuck up, but it’s true. Not everyone is the same. Some people take longer, and others need to skip ahead. You might be interested in reading this to understand my point further: http://nationdeceived.org/
By the way, thanks. Your xanga is simply wonderful.
I’m pretty sure that anyone who doesn’t have a high school diploma or GED will not be going to a good school. In fact, chances are that the school is very shady. If the school is shady, discredited, unlicensed or whatever, students shouldn’t be awarded money or loans to go there.
I don’t know . . . I think it depends on GPA and the circumstances for not finishing–some people have to drop out of school because of financial or family situations, not because of their intelligence or GPA. If someone has high test scores, a respectable GPA, and a legitimate reason for not finishing, then yes, I think they derserve help in paying for school because they may be unable to do so themselves.
Yes. The programs at some high schools do not help students who are too advanced for their classes, and these students often will opt to enter college early in order to continue their education at the level they need. I feel it is imperative that a government who funds students in need of financial aid to recognize this fact and help its students succeed no matter what level they need to learn at.
First of all, this hypothetical situations highly unlikely. Who wants to go to college who hasn’t finished high school? And no.. they should be sent back to high school first and then once they’ve finished re-apply.
certainly.
I’m in danger of failing to graduate because I haven’t yet taken the required PE class… that means: sitting around with sophomores, juniors, and seniors, who may have failed the class up to 5 times already, with a coach who knows nothing, essentiall learning nothing.
If I didn’t take that class… should I not be able to get financial aid?
yes